This is 100% coming to ps+ at some point. Would have made a very good day 1 title as the potentially never ending DLC is where they'll make a killing so getting the base game into as many hands as possible will aide them.
Weirdly, making it a free-ro-play title probably would have been an excellent move for them from a business perspective for the same reasons.
The argument that it doesnt create value or it stifles creativity or quality is only really applicable to 1st party and even then, 1st party is essentially becoming third party with Microsoft pivot to releasing everything on Playstation too.
A 3rd party title might have that gamepass backing security but they'll be looking for substantial sales elsewhere too and they'll be wanting to create a reputation for the next game they make. if they simply churn out the lowest quality game as quickly as possible for gamepass, they'll not have a future beyond the gamepass game. Some games will end up feeling like that, but I doubt there's any company that intentionally goes down that route.
A very weak month in my eyes. Re-adding a game, in this case Spider-man and labeling it as one of the bigger titles will always feel like a kick in the teeth for long term subscribers that were subbed when it was first on.
Mortal kombat 1. Meh. Fine I suppose, just replaces the last mortal kombat that left earlier this year. Not in to fighting games but I recognise it's a decent title to bring in. Unicorn overlord did grab my attention, not typically the type of game I'd play but it intrigued me so that is likely the only title I'll bother to download. Thankfully, last month was a banger, gor through planet zoo and abiotic factor but still got risk of rain 2, tropico and banishers to get through so that will tidy me over.
Firebreak was entirely understandable. Remedy has a lot of goodwill in the gaming world, they assumed people would jump onboard because of that. They would then only really need it to be a solid, competent game for the revenue to come in via microtransactions. Getting in on ps+ and gamepass was a clever move, gets the player count up and offsets a lot of the cost. They made all the right choices, the gamble was worth it but it seemingly hasnt stuck so time to move on.
The people in charge have regularly said they see PS+ as a service predominately for older, back catalogue titles. If you're subscribing to it, you're doing so accepting this is the case and shouldn't be expecting anything different.
You say most people have played it already, thats simply not true, it sold a few million units on a 100m+ install base with about 50m ps+ subs, thats a small fraction of the player base, and that will apply to the vast majority of titles that come to the service.
If you dont think theres value, you dont have to subscribe, only somebody that buys the vast majority of titles they're interested in on or around release could fail to find value in the service and if thats the case, why are you subscribing to it in the first place?
Alternatively, you can easily increase the value of the service yourself by simply not buying everything on release. it's fairly easy to predict a lot of games that will come to ps+ the question is simply when. Lies of P released day 1 into gamepass meaning they're up for subscription deals and so you can put it down as a safe bet to come to ps+ once the gamepass exclusivity window is done. I love souls games but i didnt buy it because I knew it would come to ps+ eventually and here I am looking forward to playing it and once again praising the immense value in ps+.
If you own or have played lies of P already it's awful, probably the worst month of the year. if you haven't played lies of P, that alone makes it a strong month.
Don't think this will be a particularly big seller. If it doesnt come bundled with all the dlc, I could see this coming to ps+ with the idea of selling the dlc. Thats the only way you'd get me remotely interested on playing this.
At the turn of the year, this was touted as the next behemoth title, 6 months later, I forgot it even existed. Fair to say it's been quite the anti-climax, despite the immense sales.
Yep it's been good. At the very least I've enjoyed everything I've played so far with some being brilliant. Balatro, bombrush cyberfunk, diablo 4, dragon age veilguard, high on life and robocop I've played and platinumed them all too. Still a few more I intend on getting around to at some point. Noticeably less of the DoA multi-player games that will be free to play within 12 months and shutdown within 24 months which is great because we have been overloaded with them over recent years. Just need them to stick to that and perhaps stop giving us the annual titles like fifa, NBA and wrestling.
Called it! Said lies of P would be coming to some level of the service, just made too much sense after the release of the dlc and the gamepass exclusivity deal expiring. That hard carries this month and it's a good job really as the other 2 offers are piss poor of we are being generous.
Its got the attention it craved from being a blatant rip off so why wouldn't they just give the visuals an overhaul and avoid the lawsuit? By all accounts it doesnt play like horizon so it's purely the look, that can't be so hard to change that it's worth being sued over and likely losing.
@Balaam_ As a trophy hunter myself, one thats become more and more fixated on platinuming everything I play, I cannot understand your thought process here.
Surely you attribute greater appreciation to a tough platinum than one thats handed to you for little more than starting the game? It sounds like you're just after quantity and if that's the case, theres dozens of easy platinums that you can get from the shovel ware crap released every week.
This game looks great, the apparent tough platinum just adds to the hype level even more in my eyes.
Definitely a win for the consumers but it is hard to to think it's not just delaying the inevitable. There was push back against multiple deluxe editions of games and paid "early access" to begin with and now every big game has them.
Someone will do it, they'll get the majority and then the floodgates will open. Many seem to think it will be gta 6 to do it, im not convinced by that. they dont need to, they'll sell enough copies to be the most profitable game in history anyway so why take the risk.
There's an abundance of games, if you're not an established IP or dont have prior hit games behind you, it's going to be a hard sell. If your game is phenomenal, it will always do well, if it's just decent, you're going to need help to go big. Marketing has to be good, I saw pretty much no marketing for this game and i actively keep up to date, only reason i knew it existed is because i saw it on playstation access.
a good release window to not get crowded out can really help, a discounted price point or a subscription deal are big helps too. Its also wise to not expect massive numbers if youve not got any of those things helping you.
Game looked decent to be fair, but only decent, it's something that will come to subscription services fairly quickly and I'll play it then.
Not the type of game that usually appeals to me but this looks good and reception to it on pc has been very strong. Whether I play it or not though is entirely dependent on how neccesary the co-op part is.if the games perfectly playable in its entirety and the platinum is also achievable solo then im in.
Wild hearts was the only thing I had a mild interest in that I havent played. Never likely to get around to it though. Good thing about them adding a bunch of games at once from a series you have no interest in is when it comes to them leaving there's nothing you miss out on. Glad there's nothing to clean up so I can jump into the new games straight away
There's always so many apathetic comments towards cod that seem to increase every year, and I fully agree with them, I also couldn't care less about it, havent enjoyed a cod game since mw2, but they're still always best sellers. I dont know who it is thats playing them every year. probably the same people who are buying gta 5 after 15 years to consistently put it in the top sellers that month.
When a huge, blockbuster title comes to ps+ i always question who it's for with my reasoning being surely everybody who wanted to play (in this case, cyberpunk) has already played it by now. And then I see the poll results with nearly a third picking that as their top pick which leaves my view seemingly firmly in the minority.
I have at least some interest in playing all extra games except cyberpunk.
Great month, I'll probably be downloading planet zoo, banishers, tropico and risk of rain immediately on addition to the service, edging towards playing planet zoo first.
I can't see how that SoP would influence anybody either way. We just watched a 20 minute blog post about features a fraction of the player base will ever engage with.
Stop reducing the number of offerings. At the time of the tiered relaunch, we were getting around double the number if games we get most months now. Quality hasnt changed either (many would argue it's declined) the key to any subscription model is choice, if you're offering 15 games a month and I own the a third of them already and am not interested in another third that still gives me a good chance of finding something worthwhile that month, reduce it down to the 8 games we typically get now and finding something you're interested in each month gets a lot harder and ultimately people arent going to stay if thats happening.
Best month of the year by a mile after a few months of dross.
Weirdly, the headline title, cyberpunk is the only game I have zero interest in playing. Banishers, planet zoo and risk of rain 2 will all be downloaded day 1.
Tropico and new world are backburner games that i might get around to trying at some point and Abiotic factor will be dependent on how manageable it is solo. Very happy with that selection.
If there's 20 minutes of new features then great, should be a worthwhile viewing but I dont think there will be. I expect this to be a more of the same sequel which is absolutely fine but if so we dont need to see 20 minutes of it.
Wish they wouldn't give us the popular ones like the upcoming resi 2&3 that we can already play and have had remakes and re-releases aplenty.
give us the forgotten gems. I want sheep dog n wolf, mercenaries, total overdose, In cold blood, prisoner of war, shadow of Rome, psi-ops, metal arms glitch in the system.
Gamepass isnt a sustainable model on its own, that has been said aince its inception but that doesnt impact anybody but Microsoft. Everybody else should take advantage of it whilst they can.
I don't understand why devs think it harms the industry.
Devs have a choice of accepting gamepass money or not, if they choose to accept it, it's then on them to agree to a deal they're satisfied with and should anticipate that figure will replace the bulk of sales on that platform.
If a dev doesn't want to go to a subscription service and is worried about sales as people wait for it then they should simply make it clear in their marketing of their game that they have no intention of ever going to a subscription service to inform those that would otherwise wait. If they then reverse their decision later down the line and have their cake and eat it by coming to a subscription service, they'll burn all bridges with their audience for future releases.
Gamepass is great for everybody but Microsoft. Enjoy it whilst you can.
The get there's were the only real difficult part of 1&2 and then the egregiously grindy level 100. If they've removed both and haven't replaced them with something similar, this will be a very easy platinum.
Oh no. Absolute no marks on social media that clearly lack any genuine intellect want to dramatise something. Who'd have thunk it?
People just throw out statements with nothing to back it. What's being devalued and how?
Playstation is the dominant force, Microsoft have ceased even making a fight of it and switched their entire strategy which means theres no fight anymore.
These people are the equivalent of the old Japanese war vets holed up on some remote island that haven't been told the war is over yet. There's no console war anymore so there's no value gained in being a console exclusive.
Wasnt this just bad and a broken mess though? You can potentially come back from a broken mess of a launch but if it's also bad, fixing the broken parts still leaves you with bad. There's no redemption there.
The surprise here is the timing, feels like it should have come much sooner, how many more players is it going to attract? Expect it to be on ps+ around this Xbox release to capitalize on bolstered numbers
A game in development since 2018 has to be almost ready, surely? If not, why wasnt it cancelled a long time ago? Feel like it's too late to be getting any value out of cancelling it.
Even as somebody with no experience of perfect dark, what they showed of it looked really, really good imo.
@Sergo You don't actually get the expansion, I'm pretty certain it is just one of those situations where the game has updated and thats the new base version of the game, you still have to buy the dlc if you want it.
@RiverGenie if you've got gamepass and you're actively buying whatever new titles you want, I'm not sure what you expect to get from having ps+ too.
Thats a case of you subscribing to something you really don’t need rather than the offerings being bad.
Gamepass and ps+ have constantly picked from the same pool of games, when a game is removed from one it often appears on the other shortly after. The same devs will be open to the same deals from either service, the difference being gamepass pay more to get games day 1/earlier and charge more as a consequence. If Sony took the approach of not adding titles that have been to gamepass first just to satisfy the small sample that subscribe to both, they'd have a much smaller and poorer pool of games to choose from.
@RiverGenie out of interest, what do you play and what are you wanting them to add if you're struggling for 1 or 2 games a year when we get well over 100 games over the year across the 3 tiers.
@nomither6 being popular doesn't automatically mean something isn't also filling a niche. Its a tailored genre almost exclusively for fans of those sports, of which there are many, but it has a slim to no appeal outside of those people.
Somebody who doesnt like American football is just not going to bother even trying a Madden game regardless of how good it is. whereas somebody who doesnt like Harry Potter for example, isn't neccesarily going to have the same lack of interest in playing hogwarts legacy.
@nomither6 of course they are. They are as niche of a genre as it gets in gaming.
People who aren't a fan of whatever sport dont typically play those games, somebody who isn't a football fan isn't likely to casually pick up the latest fifa (fc) game and give it a go despite having no interest in the sport.
Fighting games i lump in with sports games in that they are a niche genre that shouldn't be essential games and should be limited to filler for extra. Diablo is a great offering and jusant is a good title to fill the indie slot. Happy with that. One of the better recent months.
I dont think it being a catastrophic flop has had that much impact on this decision. They were always going to have people doing nothing that they dont need to be paying once their game was shipped, as is the norm.
The best soulslike not from fromsoft is Nioh. Very nice to see it's sold well despite being on gamepass. Should ensure we can look forward to more iterations. I expected it on ps+ this last month ahead of the dlc, would have been a smart move, perhaps it's the essential offering for July?
If its.not ready then fine delay it but don't be delaying to increase the scope of the game.
It appears the whole point and appeal of this is to get out a quality, shorter, and cheaper game quickly, if you start upping the budget and delaying it you may aswell just make it a full blown AAA title. I'd take something of this nature 6 months to a year earlier without voice acting all day.
Game doesn't need a delay it needs canning or a total overhaul. There's nothing Bungie can do in a timespan less than multiple years that would drastically improve this game and make it enticing to the much wider audience it's going to need to survive. It's just an expensive bad idea at a bad time and no amount of extra time will change that.
Dying light 2 and remnant 2 are both cracking games. Thankfully I've platinumed them both. Not into final fantasy so nothing for me to get through quickly this month and nothing new added I'm interested in for the last 2 months either. A barren time just when a lot of subscription renewals including my own is due. Not a very sound plan from Playstation once again.
They done well to secure ps+/gamepass day 1 funding otherwise this would have been a disaster. I suspect with those deals alone theyve more than covered the cost of developing and maintaining this game for the forseeable so it shouldn't harm remedy as a company.
There's probably enough Remedy love to keep it going for a little longer than the usual DoA fate this type of game would have but not much more.
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Re: PowerWash Simulator 2 Has a New Trailer Just to Announce Its Price
This is 100% coming to ps+ at some point. Would have made a very good day 1 title as the potentially never ending DLC is where they'll make a killing so getting the base game into as many hands as possible will aide them.
Weirdly, making it a free-ro-play title probably would have been an excellent move for them from a business perspective for the same reasons.
Re: Xbox Game Pass May Make Devs 'Wage Slaves', Says Ex-PlayStation Exec
The argument that it doesnt create value or it stifles creativity or quality is only really applicable to 1st party and even then, 1st party is essentially becoming third party with Microsoft pivot to releasing everything on Playstation too.
A 3rd party title might have that gamepass backing security but they'll be looking for substantial sales elsewhere too and they'll be wanting to create a reputation for the next game they make. if they simply churn out the lowest quality game as quickly as possible for gamepass, they'll not have a future beyond the gamepass game. Some games will end up feeling like that, but I doubt there's any company that intentionally goes down that route.
Re: 12 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for August 2025 Announced
A very weak month in my eyes. Re-adding a game, in this case Spider-man and labeling it as one of the bigger titles will always feel like a kick in the teeth for long term subscribers that were subbed when it was first on.
Mortal kombat 1. Meh. Fine I suppose, just replaces the last mortal kombat that left earlier this year. Not in to fighting games but I recognise it's a decent title to bring in. Unicorn overlord did grab my attention, not typically the type of game I'd play but it intrigued me so that is likely the only title I'll bother to download. Thankfully, last month was a banger, gor through planet zoo and abiotic factor but still got risk of rain 2, tropico and banishers to get through so that will tidy me over.
Re: Remedy Knuckling Down on Control 2, Max Payne Remakes
Firebreak was entirely understandable. Remedy has a lot of goodwill in the gaming world, they assumed people would jump onboard because of that. They would then only really need it to be a solid, competent game for the revenue to come in via microtransactions. Getting in on ps+ and gamepass was a clever move, gets the player count up and offsets a lot of the cost. They made all the right choices, the gamble was worth it but it seemingly hasnt stuck so time to move on.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for August 2025?
@KundaliniRising333
The people in charge have regularly said they see PS+ as a service predominately for older, back catalogue titles. If you're subscribing to it, you're doing so accepting this is the case and shouldn't be expecting anything different.
You say most people have played it already, thats simply not true, it sold a few million units on a 100m+ install base with about 50m ps+ subs, thats a small fraction of the player base, and that will apply to the vast majority of titles that come to the service.
If you dont think theres value, you dont have to subscribe, only somebody that buys the vast majority of titles they're interested in on or around release could fail to find value in the service and if thats the case, why are you subscribing to it in the first place?
Alternatively, you can easily increase the value of the service yourself by simply not buying everything on release. it's fairly easy to predict a lot of games that will come to ps+ the question is simply when. Lies of P released day 1 into gamepass meaning they're up for subscription deals and so you can put it down as a safe bet to come to ps+ once the gamepass exclusivity window is done. I love souls games but i didnt buy it because I knew it would come to ps+ eventually and here I am looking forward to playing it and once again praising the immense value in ps+.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for August 2025?
A proper all or nothing month.
If you own or have played lies of P already it's awful, probably the worst month of the year. if you haven't played lies of P, that alone makes it a strong month.
Re: Rumour: Starfield PS5 to Take Flight Alongside New Expansion Next Year
Don't think this will be a particularly big seller. If it doesnt come bundled with all the dlc, I could see this coming to ps+ with the idea of selling the dlc. Thats the only way you'd get me remotely interested on playing this.
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds' Struggling Sales Drag Capcom Stock Price Through the Mud
At the turn of the year, this was touted as the next behemoth title, 6 months later, I forgot it even existed. Fair to say it's been quite the anti-climax, despite the immense sales.
Re: Reaction: PS Plus Essential Deserves Much More Credit for Its Free PS5, PS4 Games in 2025
Yep it's been good. At the very least I've enjoyed everything I've played so far with some being brilliant. Balatro, bombrush cyberfunk, diablo 4, dragon age veilguard, high on life and robocop I've played and platinumed them all too. Still a few more I intend on getting around to at some point. Noticeably less of the DoA multi-player games that will be free to play within 12 months and shutdown within 24 months which is great because we have been overloaded with them over recent years. Just need them to stick to that and perhaps stop giving us the annual titles like fifa, NBA and wrestling.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for August 2025 Announced
Called it! Said lies of P would be coming to some level of the service, just made too much sense after the release of the dlc and the gamepass exclusivity deal expiring. That hard carries this month and it's a good job really as the other 2 offers are piss poor of we are being generous.
Re: Sony Sues Tencent Over 'Shameless' Horizon Copycat Coming to PS5
Its got the attention it craved from being a blatant rip off so why wouldn't they just give the visuals an overhaul and avoid the lawsuit? By all accounts it doesnt play like horizon so it's purely the look, that can't be so hard to change that it's worth being sued over and likely losing.
Re: Ninja Gaiden: Ragebound Trophy List Will Put Your Skills to the Test for the Platinum
@Balaam_ As a trophy hunter myself, one thats become more and more fixated on platinuming everything I play, I cannot understand your thought process here.
Surely you attribute greater appreciation to a tough platinum than one thats handed to you for little more than starting the game? It sounds like you're just after quantity and if that's the case, theres dozens of easy platinums that you can get from the shovel ware crap released every week.
This game looks great, the apparent tough platinum just adds to the hype level even more in my eyes.
Re: Xbox U-Turn the First Step Towards Gamers Rejecting $80 Games
Definitely a win for the consumers but it is hard to to think it's not just delaying the inevitable. There was push back against multiple deluxe editions of games and paid "early access" to begin with and now every big game has them.
Someone will do it, they'll get the majority and then the floodgates will open. Many seem to think it will be gta 6 to do it, im not convinced by that. they dont need to, they'll sell enough copies to be the most profitable game in history anyway so why take the risk.
I suspect it might be fifa (now FC)
Re: Mini Review: Wuchang: Fallen Feathers (PS5) - Decent Souls-Like Suffers Technically
Classic, middling day 1 gamepass game by the sounds of it. Ps+ offering in 12 months once the gamepass deal expires.
Re: 'Increasingly Selective Consumers' to Blame for Underperformance of Blades of Fire
There's an abundance of games, if you're not an established IP or dont have prior hit games behind you, it's going to be a hard sell. If your game is phenomenal, it will always do well, if it's just decent, you're going to need help to go big. Marketing has to be good, I saw pretty much no marketing for this game and i actively keep up to date, only reason i knew it existed is because i saw it on playstation access.
a good release window to not get crowded out can really help, a discounted price point or a subscription deal are big helps too. Its also wise to not expect massive numbers if youve not got any of those things helping you.
Game looked decent to be fair, but only decent, it's something that will come to subscription services fairly quickly and I'll play it then.
Re: This New PS Plus Extra Game Is Available to Download and Play Now
Not the type of game that usually appeals to me but this looks good and reception to it on pc has been very strong. Whether I play it or not though is entirely dependent on how neccesary the co-op part is.if the games perfectly playable in its entirety and the platinum is also achievable solo then im in.
Re: PS5 Action RPG KAKU: Ancient Seal Has Real Throwback Appeal
If you told me this was a kena sequel, I'd have no reason to doubt it.
Re: These 13 PS5, PS4 Games Leave PS Plus Extra in August
Wild hearts was the only thing I had a mild interest in that I havent played. Never likely to get around to it though. Good thing about them adding a bunch of games at once from a series you have no interest in is when it comes to them leaving there's nothing you miss out on. Glad there's nothing to clean up so I can jump into the new games straight away
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 7 Is the First Game Set for Gamescom Showcase
There's always so many apathetic comments towards cod that seem to increase every year, and I fully agree with them, I also couldn't care less about it, havent enjoyed a cod game since mw2, but they're still always best sellers. I dont know who it is thats playing them every year. probably the same people who are buying gta 5 after 15 years to consistently put it in the top sellers that month.
Re: 'You Buy the Game and You Get the Whole Thing': Judas Dev Not About Live Service
I find it hard to believe after so long in development they dont have dlc lined up for it which would render this untrue.
Appreciate the sentiment about no online service aspect though.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for July 2025?
When a huge, blockbuster title comes to ps+ i always question who it's for with my reasoning being surely everybody who wanted to play (in this case, cyberpunk) has already played it by now. And then I see the poll results with nearly a third picking that as their top pick which leaves my view seemingly firmly in the minority.
I have at least some interest in playing all extra games except cyberpunk.
Great month, I'll probably be downloading planet zoo, banishers, tropico and risk of rain immediately on addition to the service, edging towards playing planet zoo first.
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on Ghost of Yotei?
I can't see how that SoP would influence anybody either way. We just watched a 20 minute blog post about features a fraction of the player base will ever engage with.
Re: 'We're Just Getting Started': Sony Marks 15 Years of PS Plus with Future Pledge
Stop reducing the number of offerings. At the time of the tiered relaunch, we were getting around double the number if games we get most months now. Quality hasnt changed either (many would argue it's declined) the key to any subscription model is choice, if you're offering 15 games a month and I own the a third of them already and am not interested in another third that still gives me a good chance of finding something worthwhile that month, reduce it down to the 8 games we typically get now and finding something you're interested in each month gets a lot harder and ultimately people arent going to stay if thats happening.
Re: 10 New PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Announced for July 2025
Best month of the year by a mile after a few months of dross.
Weirdly, the headline title, cyberpunk is the only game I have zero interest in playing. Banishers, planet zoo and risk of rain 2 will all be downloaded day 1.
Tropico and new world are backburner games that i might get around to trying at some point and Abiotic factor will be dependent on how manageable it is solo. Very happy with that selection.
Re: PS5's Ghost of Yotei Fully Revealed in 20 Minute State of Play on 10th July
If there's 20 minutes of new features then great, should be a worthwhile viewing but I dont think there will be. I expect this to be a more of the same sequel which is absolutely fine but if so we dont need to see 20 minutes of it.
Re: Publishers Pitch Sony on Adding Retro Classics to PS Plus
Wish they wouldn't give us the popular ones like the upcoming resi 2&3 that we can already play and have had remakes and re-releases aplenty.
give us the forgotten gems. I want sheep dog n wolf, mercenaries, total overdose, In cold blood, prisoner of war, shadow of Rome, psi-ops, metal arms glitch in the system.
Re: 'I Much Prefer PS Plus' Lifecycle Management Strategy': Devs Weigh in on Xbox Game Pass Impact
Gamepass isnt a sustainable model on its own, that has been said aince its inception but that doesnt impact anybody but Microsoft. Everybody else should take advantage of it whilst they can.
I don't understand why devs think it harms the industry.
Devs have a choice of accepting gamepass money or not, if they choose to accept it, it's then on them to agree to a deal they're satisfied with and should anticipate that figure will replace the bulk of sales on that platform.
If a dev doesn't want to go to a subscription service and is worried about sales as people wait for it then they should simply make it clear in their marketing of their game that they have no intention of ever going to a subscription service to inform those that would otherwise wait. If they then reverse their decision later down the line and have their cake and eat it by coming to a subscription service, they'll burn all bridges with their audience for future releases.
Gamepass is great for everybody but Microsoft. Enjoy it whilst you can.
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4's PS5, PS4 Trophies Look Like Less of a Grind Than 1 + 2
The get there's were the only real difficult part of 1&2 and then the egregiously grindy level 100. If they've removed both and haven't replaced them with something similar, this will be a very easy platinum.
Re: PS5 Fans Divided Over Helldivers 2 on Xbox Pivot
Oh no. Absolute no marks on social media that clearly lack any genuine intellect want to dramatise something. Who'd have thunk it?
People just throw out statements with nothing to back it. What's being devalued and how?
Playstation is the dominant force, Microsoft have ceased even making a fight of it and switched their entire strategy which means theres no fight anymore.
These people are the equivalent of the old Japanese war vets holed up on some remote island that haven't been told the war is over yet. There's no console war anymore so there's no value gained in being a console exclusive.
Re: Digital Sales Make Death Stranding 2 PS5 Estimates Much Stronger
Played the first via ps+ and enjoyed it far more than I ever thought i would. will do the same for the sequel eventually.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Disaster MindsEye Wants 'Redemption Arc' Despite Hundreds of Jobs Being 'At Risk'
Wasnt this just bad and a broken mess though? You can potentially come back from a broken mess of a launch but if it's also bad, fixing the broken parts still leaves you with bad. There's no redemption there.
Re: PlayStation Is Bringing Helldivers 2 to Xbox, Out on 26th August
The surprise here is the timing, feels like it should have come much sooner, how many more players is it going to attract? Expect it to be on ps+ around this Xbox release to capitalize on bolstered numbers
Re: Mass Xbox Layoffs Begin, Everwild and Perfect Dark Both Reportedly Cancelled
A game in development since 2018 has to be almost ready, surely? If not, why wasnt it cancelled a long time ago? Feel like it's too late to be getting any value out of cancelling it.
Even as somebody with no experience of perfect dark, what they showed of it looked really, really good imo.
Re: Hitler Seemingly Removed from New Visual Novel PS5 Game
@Dodoo Nazis?
Re: Some PS Plus Users Can't Download Diablo 4
@Sergo You don't actually get the expansion, I'm pretty certain it is just one of those situations where the game has updated and thats the new base version of the game, you still have to buy the dlc if you want it.
Re: Some PS Plus Users Can't Download Diablo 4
Had to select a second version of the game which then takes you to the checkout screen and charges you £0.00
Re: Opinion: Diablo 4's Story Campaign Is Well Worth Playing on PS Plus
Looking forward to getting stuck into it. Platinumed Diablo 3, my intention is to do the same with Diablo 4.
Re: First PS Plus Extra Game for July 2025 Confirmed
Same people that demand day 1 titles on thr service moan just as hard when we actuallt get them.
Doesn't seem like something I'd typically jump into but i might give it a try, but only if I can play it entirely solo.
Re: PlayStation Thinks Its PS Plus Games Are 'Improving' Every Year
@RiverGenie if you've got gamepass and you're actively buying whatever new titles you want, I'm not sure what you expect to get from having ps+ too.
Thats a case of you subscribing to something you really don’t need rather than the offerings being bad.
Gamepass and ps+ have constantly picked from the same pool of games, when a game is removed from one it often appears on the other shortly after. The same devs will be open to the same deals from either service, the difference being gamepass pay more to get games day 1/earlier and charge more as a consequence. If Sony took the approach of not adding titles that have been to gamepass first just to satisfy the small sample that subscribe to both, they'd have a much smaller and poorer pool of games to choose from.
Re: PlayStation Thinks Its PS Plus Games Are 'Improving' Every Year
@RiverGenie out of interest, what do you play and what are you wanting them to add if you're struggling for 1 or 2 games a year when we get well over 100 games over the year across the 3 tiers.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for July 2025 Announced
@nomither6 being popular doesn't automatically mean something isn't also filling a niche. Its a tailored genre almost exclusively for fans of those sports, of which there are many, but it has a slim to no appeal outside of those people.
Somebody who doesnt like American football is just not going to bother even trying a Madden game regardless of how good it is. whereas somebody who doesnt like Harry Potter for example, isn't neccesarily going to have the same lack of interest in playing hogwarts legacy.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for July 2025 Announced
@nomither6 of course they are. They are as niche of a genre as it gets in gaming.
People who aren't a fan of whatever sport dont typically play those games, somebody who isn't a football fan isn't likely to casually pick up the latest fifa (fc) game and give it a go despite having no interest in the sport.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for July 2025 Announced
Fighting games i lump in with sports games in that they are a niche genre that shouldn't be essential games and should be limited to filler for extra. Diablo is a great offering and jusant is a good title to fill the indie slot. Happy with that. One of the better recent months.
Re: MindsEye Studio Confirms Its Layoff Process Has Started
I dont think it being a catastrophic flop has had that much impact on this decision. They were always going to have people doing nothing that they dont need to be paying once their game was shipped, as is the norm.
Re: Two-Week Holiday, Bonus, Switch 2 for All Lies of P Devs After Game Sells 3 Million Units
The best soulslike not from fromsoft is Nioh. Very nice to see it's sold well despite being on gamepass. Should ensure we can look forward to more iterations. I expected it on ps+ this last month ahead of the dlc, would have been a smart move, perhaps it's the essential offering for July?
Re: God of War's Rumoured Metroidvania Now Due in 2026 on PS5
If its.not ready then fine delay it but don't be delaying to increase the scope of the game.
It appears the whole point and appeal of this is to get out a quality, shorter, and cheaper game quickly, if you start upping the budget and delaying it you may aswell just make it a full blown AAA title. I'd take something of this nature 6 months to a year earlier without voice acting all day.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your PS5 Game of the Year for 2025 So Far?
Blue prince by a mile. A unique game that will live long in the memory.
Re: Bungie Delays Marathon Indefinitely, No New PS5, PC Release Date Given
Game doesn't need a delay it needs canning or a total overhaul. There's nothing Bungie can do in a timespan less than multiple years that would drastically improve this game and make it enticing to the much wider audience it's going to need to survive. It's just an expensive bad idea at a bad time and no amount of extra time will change that.
Re: These PS5, PS4 Games Are Leaving PS Plus in July
Dying light 2 and remnant 2 are both cracking games. Thankfully I've platinumed them both. Not into final fantasy so nothing for me to get through quickly this month and nothing new added I'm interested in for the last 2 months either. A barren time just when a lot of subscription renewals including my own is due. Not a very sound plan from Playstation once again.
Re: FBC: Firebreak (PS5) - PS Plus Shooter Proves Remedy Should Have Stayed in Its Lane
Pretty much exactly what I suspected.
They done well to secure ps+/gamepass day 1 funding otherwise this would have been a disaster. I suspect with those deals alone theyve more than covered the cost of developing and maintaining this game for the forseeable so it shouldn't harm remedy as a company.
There's probably enough Remedy love to keep it going for a little longer than the usual DoA fate this type of game would have but not much more.