Pre-Order Ghost of Tsushima: Director's Cut on PS Store and Play the PS4 Game Today

I'd really rather just wait for the PS5 version at this point. I'll play legends if someone else wants to, but that aside, I'll just wait for the PS5 version. I'm also going to see how good the haptic feedback is most likely as well. If it doesn't deliver a full PS5 version for that $10, I'm not getting it. It has to be immaculate and make full use of the dualsense at this point.
EDIT: Wait, I thought the director's cut content was already available on the PS4 reading this, I now realize it's just the normal game I already have that you can download.

For ps4 owners who have never played the game like myself, this is fantastic. Thank you, Sucker Punch!

Reads last sentence of article and shakes head

I hate how gamers have come to expect all updates to be free regardless of what an update entails. There seems to be much more than just a resolution and FPS bump for Ghost of Tsushima, which is all most free updates are (and we got for Ghost of Tsushima already).

Even more importantly, I was wondering how PS4 and PS5 games releasing simultaneously would be handled and it seems charging the difference in price between game price points is the solution. Otherwise, why would anyone buy the $70 PS5 version instead of the $60 PS4 version with a free upgrade?

Oh well. As with all things, vote with your wallet. If it's fair a price to you, buy it. If not, don't.

So if you own the disc version and you want to upgrade to the ps4 digital version .do i still need the disc version that i already got to play it.do the ps4 disc version got to be installed while the digital version is installed also.word up son

I already have the physical collector's edition for PS4 and got the platinum trophy. I'll wait for the physical director's cut to drop in price and pick it up for the collection. People who haven't play this game yet will be in for a treat 😄.

@TheCollector316 I honestly don't understand your logic here every other PS4 to PS5 upgrade has included FPS and resolution upgrades as well as usually support for haptic feedback free.

I don't mind paying for DLC although $20 is questionable without knowing what's entailed, but to make it sound like we are not surprised that a game we've already played or at the very least already purchased at full price most of us, asking us to pay another $10 to simply play it for a little haptic upgrade. as you just mentioned the visual improvements are have really already been made as well as loading times improvements.

So I'm just confused as to why you're surprised and that there's a little backlash with this when this is literally the first time aside from Spider-Man's nonsense where this has occurred. if anything it shows that Sony along with its first party studios are going to try and follow this trend to nickel and dime which; is likely going to occur with naughty dog and last of Us remakes(retreads), in an effort to squeeze out more money with the same content rather than innovate, use creativity, and cultivate new stories/content, new IPS and charge money for that which is how they foundationally built their reputation.

So it's a little short-sighted and very fanboyish of you to say that nobody should be surprised and outraged by this trend that does not occur with anybody about Sony in their first party studios thus far. Those of us who find it be, will absolutely voice our disapproval with our wallets, and with our voices, because history has shown that outcry in mass is often is heard and changes are then made in this industry.

This doesn’t seem particularly remarkable - being able to play the year-old base game, even if it is part of the Director’s Cut version isn’t exactly a USP.

I got the $20 PS4 expansion. I just want the new content at 60fps.

Do not have the time to replay old games one way or the other. But glad for the newstuff.

If you buying it for the first time, I would just wait.

@TheCollector316 I think the point is that a lot of devs give you a free PS5 upgrade, so if they can do it why can't everybody (at least games that have sold well). I'm very grateful for my free PS5 Doom Eternal upgrade. It's a service and maybe keeps people invested in your future games.

GoT DLC: I don't mind paying for it but the PS5 upgrade could have been part of the service. It would give a better narrative. DLC still can hold its full asking price.

@KundaliniRising333

Nobody ever said we were getting every PS5 port for Free if in our collection.

I can pay $20 for the directors cut upgrade for PS4. And get a 60fps + fast load GameBoost patch on PS5. BC means nobody I am loosing my PS4 game investment.

Publishers sell me remaster for $29 five times - does not mean the next guy can't sell theirs for $60. Or needs to include all the DLC because publisher X did it. I do not assume it is now a rule.

The $10 upgrade fee for owners of the PS4 Director's Cut is obviously designed to prevent lost revenue from people not buying the PS5 version. The issue is that Sony have not necessarily offered a compelling reason why cross-gen PS5 games should cost more than their PS4 counterparts.

Beyond that, I wouldn't say it's bad value for owners of 2020's original release, as the $30 upgrade includes the Ikishima expansion, along with all the other improvements. Or do people think the DLC should be free?

That's quite a neat thing to do actually. It's only another month until the Director's Cut releases, so I may as well wait for that and then play it.

@Agramonte nobody is arguing that anyone said every ps5 port would be free. I and others are simply voicing our disapproval of this specific port. Just as you can keyboard warrior your rebuttals of anyone with a viewpoint you disagree with, we too can comment on our opinion of the article in question.

That's exactly what these comment sections are for. There are entire corporate teams dedicated to monitoring opinions in comment sections to see the approval or disapproval of that which they put forward. Its absolutely a good thing that discussion is generated.

@mookysam
Nobody thinks the DLC should be free.
People are annoyed because they have locked the DLC to the base game and called it a 'Directors Cut' as an excuse to sell the game full price to put on store shelves.
The pro-consumer move, and the move the majority of other companies do, is offer a free PS4>PS5 base game upgrade and then sell the DLC separate.

@blinx01 there is already a free PS5 performance patch for the PS4 version, so you could buy just the new island DLC and still get a next gen experience.
The paid PS5 upgrades seem to be pretty dispensable.

I want to keep people in mind that ID Software and 4A games gave us raytracing, dualsense support, and 4K for free with Metro Exodus and Doom Eternal. The fact that Sucker Punch is forcing us to pay 10$ is nothing but greed.

"which is another unfortunate example of Sony nickel-and-diming its loyal fans"

Don't be cheap. DLCs cost money. It isn't a simple PS5 upgrade.

@KundaliniRising333

100% For sure, but once that goes up someone can challenge that opinion - Why there is a "reply". I refuse to believe a port can be $60. I get challenged every time I express that by people who think it is fine. But yeah - I hear you. Pro or Con arguments, regardless can be posted

@Nepp67
Unlike sucker punch they didn't give us new content.

GoT isn't currently listed on the PS Store! Must be getting an overnight makeover.

If they had of held back legends and bundled it with this no one would bat an eyelid. They have that for free and now people are in uproar over this directors cut with PS5 enhancements and a new area/story?

@viktorcode They aren't giving you new content in the 10$ upgrade so what are you talking about?

@Nepp67 what about legends that they have for free? Is it greed that you want everything for free?

I’d just end up with a partially finished trophy list then though, I wish they implemented cross saves/cross play like they did previous.

@Boucho11 Oh yes cause charging 70$ 1 year old PS4 title DEFINITELY isnt greed pal.

I don't really understand what the term "nickel-and-diming" means. GoT was one of the few games I paid full price for though and happily support meaningful content

I wouldn't call this nickel and diming at all personally. Have we forgotten The Last of Us Remastered already? That was closer to nickel and diming than this. It was the exact same content besides an extra map or two in Factions that ran at 60 frames 1080p. Charged for what was full price at $60 at the time.

If you don't care about the PS5 version upgrades, you can get the expansion for $20 with the updates already made to the game through BC such as 4K and 60 frames. You only miss out really on haptic feedback and lip-sync...that's it. You still get the expansion which sure we don't know how substantial the expansion is but will be revealed in time so we just have to wait for that information.

For full price you get the full game plus the expansion plus Legends for either $60 or $70. That certainly seems perfectly fair to me. Don't get me wrong I'm all for calling out companies for trying to swindle people but this isn't Nintendo charging full price for a cheap remake of a game boy game or something. I already own Super Mario 3D World on Wii U but guess what if I want the Switch version with the expansion its completely full price again. I refused because that is nickel and diming.

@Nepp67 don’t buy it then? I got it on PS4 and was happy with it. I’m sure there are people who missed it the first time who will be happy to pay for this. If you’re not happy, just move on and stop ranting about it.

Don't talk about Sony in a negative light pushsquare! You'll be accused of being in Microsofts pocket!. It's always good for a dedicated fansite to experience first hand the unapologetically single mindedness of those they've been previously pandering to.

Anyway, I don't know how any one can keep defending this stuff. They'll spin it as there being expectations that the expansion should be free....and cry entitlement. But nobody has a problem paying for additional content. The problem, which can never be made clear enough for those that are unwilling to see, is the fact that Sony are adding 10 extra for the exact same game on ps5. 10 extra for Japanese dialogue/lips sync(was that not already in the original Japanese release?)?. But why should ps5 owners get better textures, a higher frame rate, Faster loading times, for free in their version?...they didn't, they had to pay 500 for a ps5...for new released/re-released games there should be some reasonable expectations. You buy a new PC you don't expect people to then have to pay an additional cost each time to see the benefits from that new pc. This game isn't something built from the ground up. And soon as this is announced to be coming to the pc too with better textures, frame rate, loading time...but costing less...then you'd think things would start to click. Ps5 owners are being charged 10 extra because the most vocal will bend over and praise them for it. Until eventually the sales will start to speak louder.

What you have to appreciate is that most of these new victims left in the chaos from Microsofts acquisition of pushsquare will no doubt have scoffed at 'nintendo tax' at some point....just like they laughed at Xbox paying for online...

@Korgon 100% agree with this!

@get2sammyb Hold on. I am so confused. So if you pre-order the $20 upgrade right now then you just get the whole game digitally forever? It that right? I own the game physically right now. Does that mean I would have two copies of the game or does that mean I have access to the full game until it releases in August? I don't get this at all.

@Bleachedsmiles Couldn't have said it better.

@Korgon full price again for wiiu ports on switch is deserving of backlash. If that's diserving of backlash...when all these ports offer are higher resolutions and frame rate, and some throw-away additional content...why isn't Sony charging more than the original last gen release whilst offering higher resolutions and frame rate and some throw-away additional content?
I don't get what you're arguement is when you acknowledge how you can't defend Nintendo for doing this...but cheaper.

We don't know how substantial the expansion is. That's true. But again, the issue is less about the expectation of paying for the expansion and more the fact that the game and expansion are on the PS4 too...for cheaper. The expansion isn't ps5 exclusive. The higher price point is.

@Nepp67 Sony simps have a very hard time understanding what the issue is because they believe they can do no wrong. Your examples are fair, both metro exodus and doom eternal among other games have had substantial next gen upgrades for free, yet for some reason Sony charging £10 or whatever to upgrade a game you already own is just fine, even when you paid full price and supported that game at launch.

OK I need this on the shelf, even though I already have the ps4 version I'd still rather have the physical copy than the digital upgrade as I'm old fashioned

@Bleachedsmiles
I think you might have misunderstood my argument. I bought a Nintendo game at $60 on Wii U. Loved the game and would gladly pay a little more for an expansion of the game. Along comes the Switch and a port of said game I purchased on Wii U with an expansion added to it.

The problem however is the game (which at this point is quite a few years old) is full price with absolutely no option to get the expansion without paying full price...again.

Now with GOT, I paid full price for it on PS4. Loved it and was willing to pay for extra content. I don't need to pay full price of the game again for the expansion. I just need to pay at least $20 in order to play the expansion.

In my case I have a PS5 so I'm going to pay the $30 for the expansion that also includes PS5 specific upgrades to the game.

The $10 next gen price hike is a different topic entirely. $70 is the new standard going forward. Whether or not that price hike is fair is up to the individual. I myself don't mind it as games stayed steady at $60 for two generations so a $10 increase isn't a big deal in my opinion.

@Boucho11 Someone doesn't like democracy tss

Why the hell would I want to spend £70 just to play the PS4 version earlier? They can go take a hike for that price 😤

Can't wait for the comments section when people have to buy gta5 for the third time

Interesting. I haven't played Ghost yet--it came out at a time when I was overloaded on games. I've been holding out on it being a PS+ game, which I think is still a possibility, given that FF7R already had a whole thing with PS+ versions not being eligible for an upgrade. So Director's Cut doesn't stand in the way of PS+ as far as I can tell.

@The_New_Butler Whats the problem then i dont see the issue here if you want to pay that price who is holding you back.

@RubyCarbuncle Why do they ow you a free expansion? Doesnt the PS4 version already work on the PS5?

@Korgon Thats the point though...the next gen price hike isn't a different topic entirely. You're just focusing on one aspect of this because that's the part that relates to you - you already own the game. And that's the arguement those defending the price difference seem to be offering. £30 for an expansion isn't the issue yet as we can't determine the value as nobody knows how big the expansion is. The argument is being misunderstood as those that are eager to defend Sony are assuming those questioning them expect the expansion to be gifted them for free. That's not the real argument. The argument is Sony are putting out the same game on both PS4 and ps5 at the same time. The game contains the same contents. But the ps5 version is £10 more. Why? What's do Sony believe values £10 more? When you've just paid £500 for the hardware and a reasonable expectation should be that games Sony release for that hardware should take advantage of that hardware. So are ps5 owners being unreasonable for questioning being charged £10 extra for better textures and vibrations in the controller when we've already paid £500 for that. Nobody paid £500 for a ps5 under the expectation that a game released for it would play and look exactly the same as the ps4 version right? That's not being entitled. And this is what people are having a problem with.

I see it from your point of view having already own the game and just paying for the expansion. I don't think you're seeing it from the angle of not already owning the game though and what Sony's messaging is.

I'll just wait for it to come to ps+ or Now. I was sort of interested in it at first but since I've already waited this long I can keep waiting.

@Bleachedsmiles
But I have already said in my original comment my thoughts in regards of someone who doesn't own the game already. I feel like you get a pretty fair deal at $60-$70 dollars considering all that is included in the package. The $10 is the extra bells and whistles that only the PS5 can offer. It's up to you if you feel like it's taking advantage of the system enough.

For example I thought Spider-Man Miles Morales was too high of a price for its initial asking price. But I didn't accuse Insomniac and Sony of trying to swindle me. I just waited until it was cheaper, there's no trick here its just patience.

Just because some people don't agree with the sentiment that this is an unfair business practice doesn't mean those folks are blind Sony fanboys necessarily. Just like I'm not calling folks with your point of view entitled. It's simply a difference of opinion here is all.

@Korgon It's up to me if I want to pay an additional £10 to take advantage of the hardware I just paid them £500 for?...I guess that's reasonable. Especially when publishers who don't have billion dollar companies behind them are offering those enhancements for no additional cost.
It's all about choice at the end of the day...you can either pay extra to take advantage of their hardware or not. But I don't think anyone can be surprised there's a bit of a backlash over it...anymore than we can be surprised that backlash will result in claims of 'being in Microsofts pocket' - you should give a look at the response from pushquares tweet about this.

@Bleachedsmiles
Of course there are people that go overboard with theories it's the internet! The notion that Push Square or just about anyone in the media are in one camp or the other is just simple fanboy nonsense. Plus that's Twitter, which has always been a nasty place since I could remember hence why I don't have a Twitter account.

And as for the offer of the upgrades for free from some companies. Hey that's great! 4A games gave a free PS5 update to us for Metro Exodus and I appreciate it. Nothing wrong with that but the situation is a little different here since there's an expansion here to consider. Metro is just the base game and the already released DLC. They aren't trying to sell something with it.

I do agree that Sony probably should have offered the PS5 bells and whistles upgrade for free to anyone with a copy and instead charged for just the expansion separately. I totally agree they handled this a little messy but I just don't think they are being unreasonable asking for some compensation for a full blown expansion that took some serious work to make.

@RubyCarbuncle what you are paying is the expansion content , the ps5 upgrade comes along with that.

@Korgon how is this different from metro though? You know the expansion isn't ps5 exclusive. The same game (directors cut) is coming to PS4. You know this. They're not sticking 10 on to compensate for the expansion on PS4.

It's different because the Metro upgrade was just the base game and dlc that had already been released and thats it. There wasn't a new expansion or anything like that with the upgrade to consider.

Here we have the base game and then a new expansion to said base game. And yes I know the expansion is on PS4 as well. That just means we can assume that the expansion isn't doing anything that isn't possible on PS4 is all, which makes sense considering this is still a PS4 game first and foremost.

Again I think if Sony would have just given the upgrade free and charge for the expansion separately people wouldn't be getting upset. But clearly the $10 hike applies to not just base game prices but add-ons as well for next-gen, and I already said I just don't see that as unreasonable considering game prices stayed stagnant for 2 console generations.

@Bleachedsmiles you still have to pay for the expansion on the ps4 version as well , the only difference is the 10$ upgrade

@twitchtvpat not saying you don't. The £10 difference is the problem...and what Sony are valuing for that. I really don't get why that's hard to understand.
The £70 new price scheme was for increased production costs in gaming correct? That's the messaging Sony has given behind it. So you tell me if a game with the same contents is costing £10 less on their other platform...released the same time...what are the production costs Sony is currently valuing should be £10 extra? Higher resolution loading times frame rate and haptic feedback? They're already charging £500 for those.

@Korgon so you say you understand you're not being offered anything different than tech differences that new hardware brings?...that other than those tech differences the PS4 version of the game is the EXACT SAME as the ps5 version...yet ps5 is £10 more. And you find that reasonable because it, like the PS4 version, comes with the expansion.
And because they've labelled it 'directors cut' as a way to sell the whole game again instead of dlc expansions and release it all as a game of a year edition later down the line (for cheaper)...this differs from a small studio like 4A offering the exact same ps5 enhancements...over even more content...for free? I'd say it's reasonable to assume a similar level of work went into both games ps5 enhancements tbh.

You don't see £10 hike in this gen games being unreasonable because prices have stayed the same for two generations...yeah I get that. But this isn't a next gen game. This is a game that's also coming to PS4 day and date....without the price hike. Telling you Sony value a higher resolution and frame rate as £10. Trust me when I tell you not a lot of work went in to doing that. If it did when the game gets announced for pc expect them to charge £100's with all the scaling they'll have to do.

Also, the rationalising that this price hike is some how over due is disingenuous. Gaming has seen vast growth over the last two generations...this means more people buying games...which means more money in gaming. Nobody has been losing out on games holding their price. Not only have games been making more money they've also been adopting passes... microtransactions...lootboxes. So 'game prices stayed stagnant' isn't really the whole picture. Guess what, the next battlefield is going to be £70...have less content...and no doubt have some sort of season pass/transactions/loot boxes. Oh...and console gamers still have to pay monthly to play it. And still hit pass gen without the price increase. It's a next gen tax...just as nintendo have it's switch tax that you don't consider as reasonable.

It's going to be interesting seeing Microsofts pricing for their first party releases...how close to £70 those hit. As well as the effect it has on the gaming industry placing them in gamepass day and date. It's already a bad look for Sony when Xbox gets its first party series upgrades at no extra costs.
Hopefully Xbox keeps its momentum...as you can definitely feel it in the air...public option swaying. Can only result in a response from Sony that actually benefits the gamers this time.

@Barryburton97
The PS5 patch is bare bones.
You're just playing the PS4 Pro version at 60FPS instead of 30FPS through back-compat. That's it.

This native PS5 port 'should' be much better.
Hopefully no checkboard rendering and a native resolution instead. Higher resolution textures, higher graphical settings etc.

@Bleachedsmiles
I mean if you think updating work that is already done takes the same amount of work as doing all that plus an expansion that adds new story, which means new Voice Over work, new motion capture, new techniques which also means more motion capture, new armor to earn which means more artwork and coding and more, I don't know what to tell you other than your just plain wrong.

And we clearly just don't see eye to eye on the price. I'm not sure why you bring in lootboxes and season passes into the conversation considering Ghost had none of those so im not sure what your getting at there. And it's not Nintendo offering the same game with an expansion at full price I dislike, it's the fact that they tie the expansion to the new release with absolutely no option to get the expansion for the game I already own at a discounted price...which is not the case with Ghost.

We will just have to agree to disagree. And also I'm rooting for Microsoft to do well too as I've always liked a few of their exclusives too so I always end up getting both consoles at some point so I assure you it's not blind fanboy faith that's backing my view. I'm just calling it like I see it.

@Korgon I've never suggested updating a resolution takes the same level of work as an expansion have I? What makes you think I believe that?

See...you questioned the price difference being a different topic entirely when I've tried to explain why people are questioning this directors cut. You still seem to have it in your head that the £10 difference pays for the expansion content in addition to the resolution/frame rate loading times upgrades - which should be standard expectations for new released games on new more powerful hardware. It doesn't. I keep seeming to repeat this as Im not sure you're getting what the issue is. The directors cut of this game isn't exclusive to the ps5. The PS4 is getting the game rereleased also...with the expansion included. You say you understand this. Yet then say all the extra work accounts for the price difference. Then why is the PS4 version 10 less?
The point is clear. The £70 new price point for next gen was messaged as needed as production costs are higher. Now we could question this statement as we're also being fed how new engines so good they're cutting production time. But let's just focus on the fact that this directors cut is cross gen. So if these games need the £70 price point for production costs why are the exact same games costing less on the PS4? Same level of work.
The reality is arguing for new ps5 games costing £70 is a different topic from this case...as this is a cross-gen game.
So what is it Sony is charging £10 extra for???? Standard perks that they already charged you new hardware to get. THIS is the issue. You guys can go on about the added content from the expansion all you like...that content isn't exclusive to the ps5 version...yet only the ps5 version is £70. THIS is the issue.
Now consider the pro offered better frame rate, resolution ect...via pro patches. Remind us how many times Sony charged for a pro patch.

Why I brought up lootboxes and microtransactions was clear. You made a blanket statement that prices of games had stagnated for two generations. When the reality is they found different ways to charge you. So will a price hike change that?
Also, bare in mind that £70 doesn't translate to 70 dollars. And 70 dollars doesn't translate to 70 Australian dollars ect.

You're not calling it like it is. You're calling it like it is for you personally. You've already made that clear as you already own the base game so the lone expansion option is available to you. And it's good to have options. And that's one thing Sony does have over Nintendo's rereleases. But don't t kid yourself that Sony are offering any better a deal or their messaging is any better when you're coming to things fresh.
Compared to making new games both nintendo and Sony's rereleases cost them the least amount of work sold at full price.

But whether this game is worth the full £60 again or not isn't the argument. It's questioning what's worth the extra £10 for the ps5 version. It's really not difficult.

@Bleachedsmiles
"I'd say it's reasonable to assume a similar level of work went into both games ps5 enhancements tbh". This is where you stated you don't think that much more work went into Ghost over what 4A did with Metro.

And I don't know how else I can say it. I understand you don't think they are justifying the $10 price hike. I'm saying I believe they are justified in the price hike due to inflation. If the $10 hike is so egregious where were people when PS2 games went from $50 up to $60 on PS3? It's just the way it goes prices go up every now and then. Honestly I was expecting games to cost $80 this gen on the regular so I'm pleasantly surprised it's only gone up to $70.

And I know games have found other ways to monetize over the last two generations. But the article in particular is talking strictly about Ghost, so again I don't know why your bringing those things up. But I have a simple solution to games with those things. I don't buy them, it's that simple.

And again I've looked at it from the perspective of someone who doesn't own the game yet and I just don't see how them charging full price is that egregious considering you don't own anything yet. If you think the price is too high, wait for a sale or don't get it at all. No one is saying you have to buy it full price if you don't want to.

We are just going in circles so I'll end it with this. It was fun debating the situation with you and I'm still very excited for the game and hope you enjoyed the debate too. 😀

@Korgon specific to the ps5 upgrade - adjusting the resolution/frame rate ect to warrant the charge over metro doing exactly the same (actually more content in metro more than likely). Again, none of this has anything to do with the expansion being added to the directors cut!!! It's asking what's warranting the price difference between PS4 and ps5 versions. Hence why I said PS5 ENHANCEMENTS.

Even the argument of inflation doesn't add up when the exact same game is coming out on the PS4 at the exact same time for a lower price. So...

The article is talking specifically about ghosts. You however are not. You're talking about game prices in general. Which is why I bring up the other ways publishers have been making money.

Seriously...last time. It's not about a game charging full price. The arguement has NEVER been about is the directors cut worth full price. It's about are the ps5 enhancements worth the extra £10! Read it slower if you have to mate.

But yes, I have enjoyed the debate btw.

@The_New_Butler what in the EFF is in the directors cut? Like dont these versions have extra scenes or content? I just don't understand unless they are adding more content how this could be anything any different from the original version? Please someone clarify.....

@RubyCarbuncle I know why they did and its easy to understand. People buy the game at €20 and expect to get it for €40 with a expansion with a free nextgen upgrade thats the whole reason behind cant blame them. I own the PS4 version and i will probably just buy the PS5 if it has the stuff om the disc.

Hope they actually put the full DLC on the disc.

@Bleachedsmiles its not that i don't understand , but at the end of the day that 10$ difference is up to the person if t hey want it or not.