Once third person is released, I'll be popping back in for sure. I got this when it came out, but found it a bit boring and the parkour a little awkward. I didn't make it that far, so I'm definitely willing to give it the ol college try in December.
@Tr3mm0r It's trolling because you made the comment to annoy people. Otherwise, you wouldn't have posted it. Also, unless you have the gift of premonition and suddenly all LGBT are considered a monolith, it's not a fact.
@SeaDaVie Yeah, the priority should definitely be making sure the main game mode is excellent. I was just mentioning PvP as an incentive to get some Destiny or CoD fans potentially interested.
I'm not super hot on the seasonal wipes in Diablo, but am totally open to it here. They idea is the robots are just avatars anyway, right?
@SeaDaVie Agreed. I didn't play the alpha, but a lot of the comments seem to just be trashing live-service games in general (which pretty much every modern multiplayer game falls into). That said, if @MFTWrecks is right and they don't have much of a meta grind, then retaining players would be a massive problem.
I still think that extraction shooters, at least up until now, have been so niche that you can't bet big on the genre, even with Bungie's pedigree for gameplay. The gameplay loop doesn't have as much variety as I think is required to keep people interested. Maybe if they have a PvP mode, similar to Destiny's Crucible, it might help.
I really don't understand why everyone is so cynical about live-service games as a whole, as if all things wrong with Marathon derive from the fact that it's a live service game.
If they announced Destiny 3 tomorrow, people would sh*t their pants.
I think the premise of Marathon is really cool. I'd love a great console extraction shooter, but Bungie/Sony need to understand that it's a niche genre and they can't put the fate of Bungie on this game. Destiny 3 is really Bungie's best bet forward (though selfishly, I'd love a Myth reboot).
We've seen photo-real still images before, so this isn't all that special to me. Seeing models in motion is where the uncanny valley emerges. If they can inject micro-movements and subtle skin/muscle reactions into character animations, I think that is where the "leap" in photo-real characters will bear fruit. It's not the models themselves, it's how they move.
It would be interesting if they delved into a different crime syndicate (not Italian). Not sure how that would play out, but having something like an Irish mob game set it New York or Boston during the mid-20th century would be fun. Or maybe Russian mob, etc.
It's funny. I know I would probably really enjoy God of War 2018 and the sequel if I stuck through it, but every time I boot up 2018, I make it like 1 hour and get bored. An Egyptian setting; however, might be just what I need. Such a sucker for that setting. Literally just reinstalled AC Origins last night.
@tameshiyaku Yeah, but that would be true for just about every good game. The fact that Siege is a great game is keeping Tom Clancy relevant. This isn't even to mention that The Division 2 is still going strong.
I'm honestly tempted. I just recently bought Star Trek Resurgence and it's gotten me back on board with the Telltale-style games.
For any Trekkies out there, Resurgence is one ugly game, but it absolutely nails the tone and the story (so far) is excellent. Wonderful love letter to 90s Trek.
The gameplay looks pretty fun, but I've always struggled with the humor of Borderlands. I may be tempted to get this on a steep sale down the road, but we were given 1, 2, and 3 as part of PS Plus, so I'd be more tempted to play those before jumping in here.
As @Northern_munkey says, there are much more interesting games incoming to make space for this one any time soon.
I've spent an absurd amount of time building out the hideout in this game. One day, I'll make the effort to put a video on YouTube or something 😂.Looking forward to the expansion!
Very tempted to get this one. Love the art style and seems like a great flow-state game. Only played a little of Journey back in the day (don't @ me) and of Giant Squid's games, I've only played Abzu, but enjoyed it.
@KundaliniRising333 I don't think that's accurate. There are plenty of gamers (like me and my friends) who play plenty of CoD, but also much more. You can't take a franchise that sells 20mil each year and say only a small subset of "true gamers" buy them; that's a very elitist opinion. Call of Duty may be an easy target for ridicule because it's the top dog and is very iterative, but there are maybe a handful of games that even come close to matching the gunplay of CoD.
CoD is graded on a curve, so people love to say "CoD sucks," but if you took the exact same game and gave it a new name, it would be hailed as a masterclass of gameplay.
Not to your tastes? That's fine. But don't pretend like CoD isn't for "true gamers" just because it's incredibly popular. It's popular for a reason.
@BacklogBrad We agree that it would be better for us, the consumers, if there weren't any exclusives, but where we differ is I think it's just bad business for Sony. Aside from the games and the operating system, PS5 and Series X are virtually identical, so I'm not sure how the hardware itself is the selling point.
Yeah, probably not an insane amount of PC gamers will buy a console for GTA6, but GTA6 is going to be the biggest video game launch in history, so I wouldn't discount the impact it's going to have. That said, if I was an Xbox One owner and was waiting to upgrade, there is virtually no reason to buy a Series over a PS5 - and that comes down to exclusives. Xbox got clobbered over the last two generations and so they've had to pivot. Don't be fooled by their "we don't believe in exclusives" moral propaganda. Microsoft believes in making money, not being nice to the consumer. If appearing nice to consumers gets them more business, then that's what they'll do, but they would have never brought games to PlayStation if they didn't think they needed to to keep the bottom line in check.
Day 1 for me, but that was going to be true even without the showcase. I'm a huge James Bond mark. I've read almost all of the Ian Fleming novels and seen most of the movies (the Roger Moore movies are a little too campy for my tastes). As a book fan, I'm really happy to see the cheek scar finally make an appearance.
@BacklogBrad I disagree. While there are plenty of people that will never change lanes (at least until they're forced to), there are plenty of pragmatists that just go where the games are; they just don't switch mid console generation because that would be financially stupid. Think about how many people are going to buy a PS5 or Xbox Series when GTS6 comes out just because it won't be on PC? Do you think they're more likely to buy a PlayStation or an Xbox? If it's PlayStation, why do you think that is? Spoiler - it's because PlayStation has exclusives that Xbox doesn't have.
@BacklogBrad It hurts the game, but benefits the platform. If all games went multiplatform, there wouldn't be a differentiating factor. 1st party games aren't designed to maximize profit for the individual game - they're designed to incentivize people to use the ecosystem where the platform makes most of its money from 3rd party sales.
@PlushiePlushie I normally play on level 10, but we bumped it down to 7 and still had a really rough go of it! Such a crazy difficulty spike with this update.
I hear a lot of things on the Sacred Symbols podcast where the host, Colin, will make some assertion like "people keep saying there aren't any games for PS5" and I keep thinking, "I don't know anyone who says that."
Reddit, Twitter, Discord, etc. all skew towards negativity. It's similar on this website where you'd be forgiven thinking that Call of Duty is the most hated franchise on the planet, but the data clearly shows something very different.
Great to see! Xbox users are definitely getting thrown into the deep end for this game. I tried the new bug missions last night and got completely destroyed.
@Northern_munkey Is it? Maybe I didn't give it a fair enough shot. Is the lag present in the campaign too? I was craving a Battlefield-like game, but I ended up going back to BF1 and Battlefront 2.
@Northern_munkey Another favorite of mine is Black Hawk Down. I had hoped for a quality campaign in Delta Force, but after installing and sitting through the intro cutscene, I had to delete it immediately. Such a bummer.
Despite all the snide comments (including mine), this has the potential to be fun, if not good. I don't think anyone would be expecting an Oscar contender, but CoD campaigns are usually entertaining. No reason a movie couldn't be the same.
I remember playing I Am Alive in college and really enjoying it. The mechanic of pointing an empty gun at an enemy and hoping they don't realize you have no bullets was such a cool idea.
@awp69 Metacritic is not something to put a lot of stock in. It's just a weighted average and reviews are opinions. Liam thinks that MGS3 is a better game than GoW and I tend to agree, but it doesn't mean that someone else's opinion isn't valid. Just because you disagree doesn't mean that Liam is wrong, nor does it mean you are.
This is a wait-for-a-sale game, for me. It'll be a fun romp when the time comes, but $40 is pretty steep for a 6 hour campaign, especially when the MP doesn't interest me.
Today is all about Helldivers 2 and the Obedient Democracy Support Troopers.
@kmtrain83 @Vovander I'd encourage you guys to check out Tom's reporting. He could certainly be wrong or things may change, but he has sources within AMD, NVIDIA, Sony, Microsoft, etc. and he has been incredibly reliable and knowledgeable about stuff like this before (see his reporting on PS5 Pro before it was revealed).
He points to reduced costs of internal tech, better cooling (smaller fan components), smaller silicon dies, better use of PSSR, etc., as well as Sony's desire to make a more affordable unit this time around, similar to the transition from PS3 to PS4, where PS4 was much cheaper at launch, though much more powerful.
I get that the current economic situation is different than 2013, but there's much more than tariffs and inflation to drive the cost of electronics.
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Re: Avatar PS5 Seems Like a Game Worth Going Back To, Third DLC Confirmed
Once third person is released, I'll be popping back in for sure. I got this when it came out, but found it a bit boring and the parkour a little awkward. I didn't make it that far, so I'm definitely willing to give it the ol college try in December.
Re: Bungie's Much Criticised Shooter Marathon Will Skip PS5's New State of Play
@Tr3mm0r It's trolling because you made the comment to annoy people. Otherwise, you wouldn't have posted it. Also, unless you have the gift of premonition and suddenly all LGBT are considered a monolith, it's not a fact.
Re: Bungie's Much Criticised Shooter Marathon Will Skip PS5's New State of Play
@SeaDaVie Yeah, the priority should definitely be making sure the main game mode is excellent. I was just mentioning PvP as an incentive to get some Destiny or CoD fans potentially interested.
I'm not super hot on the seasonal wipes in Diablo, but am totally open to it here. They idea is the robots are just avatars anyway, right?
Re: Bungie's Much Criticised Shooter Marathon Will Skip PS5's New State of Play
@SeaDaVie Agreed. I didn't play the alpha, but a lot of the comments seem to just be trashing live-service games in general (which pretty much every modern multiplayer game falls into). That said, if @MFTWrecks is right and they don't have much of a meta grind, then retaining players would be a massive problem.
I still think that extraction shooters, at least up until now, have been so niche that you can't bet big on the genre, even with Bungie's pedigree for gameplay. The gameplay loop doesn't have as much variety as I think is required to keep people interested. Maybe if they have a PvP mode, similar to Destiny's Crucible, it might help.
Re: Bungie's Much Criticised Shooter Marathon Will Skip PS5's New State of Play
@Tr3mm0r Take your trolling elsewhere, please.
Re: Bungie's Much Criticised Shooter Marathon Will Skip PS5's New State of Play
I really don't understand why everyone is so cynical about live-service games as a whole, as if all things wrong with Marathon derive from the fact that it's a live service game.
If they announced Destiny 3 tomorrow, people would sh*t their pants.
I think the premise of Marathon is really cool. I'd love a great console extraction shooter, but Bungie/Sony need to understand that it's a niche genre and they can't put the fate of Bungie on this game. Destiny 3 is really Bungie's best bet forward (though selfishly, I'd love a Myth reboot).
Re: Is This the First Tease of Next-Gen PS6 Graphics?
We've seen photo-real still images before, so this isn't all that special to me. Seeing models in motion is where the uncanny valley emerges. If they can inject micro-movements and subtle skin/muscle reactions into character animations, I think that is where the "leap" in photo-real characters will bear fruit. It's not the models themselves, it's how they move.
Re: Silent Hill F Is Another Game That Stumbles on PS5 Pro
At the very least, developers should provide the option to switch to base PS5 settings.
Re: Mafia: The Old Country Actor Claims Another Game in the Series Has Already Been Approved
It would be interesting if they delved into a different crime syndicate (not Italian). Not sure how that would play out, but having something like an Irish mob game set it New York or Boston during the mid-20th century would be fun. Or maybe Russian mob, etc.
Obviously not likely.
I'd be happy for more Mafia, regardless.
Re: Sony's Still Not Doing Anything with Bloodborne, It's Claimed
@Czar_Khastik Ahhh, Father Gastropub, you ol bag.
Re: Rumour: Kratos to Wield 'Egyptian Sword' in God of War's Next Main Game
It's funny. I know I would probably really enjoy God of War 2018 and the sequel if I stuck through it, but every time I boot up 2018, I make it like 1 hour and get bored. An Egyptian setting; however, might be just what I need. Such a sucker for that setting. Literally just reinstalled AC Origins last night.
Re: PS4 Is Still Getting Firmware Updates Too, Here Are the Patch Notes
Ok... cool.
I still use my PS4 in my bedroom, so I guess it's nice to know the platform is still being monitored.
Still think the PS4 is the best looking PlayStation console. I really hope the PS6 follows a similar design philosophy.
Re: Mini Review: Assassin's Creed Shadows: Claws of Awaji (PS5) - Story Moments Carry an Overly Safe Expansion
@ShogunRok @DennisReynolds thank you both!
Re: Mini Review: Assassin's Creed Shadows: Claws of Awaji (PS5) - Story Moments Carry an Overly Safe Expansion
@ShogunRok Did they add anything to the Hideout (new decorations, buildings, etc.) outside of the new upgrade tiers for the main buildings?
Re: Instead of a Splinter Cell Game, What About a Netflix Anime?
@tameshiyaku I'd love if they took a more direct approach in adapting a Tom Clancy novel into a game.
Re: Interview: 'We Don't Consider This a Port': Battlefield 6 Dev on Why It Built the PS5 Version Concurrently with PC
@DennisReynolds Agreed. I haven't been this excited for a Battlefield game since Battlefield 1.
Re: Interview: 'We Don't Consider This a Port': Battlefield 6 Dev on Why It Built the PS5 Version Concurrently with PC
@TrollOfWar I think that's what the Xbox controllers have. They don't offer resistance, like the DualSense does, but they have dedicated rumble.
Re: Instead of a Splinter Cell Game, What About a Netflix Anime?
@tameshiyaku Yeah, but that would be true for just about every good game. The fact that Siege is a great game is keeping Tom Clancy relevant. This isn't even to mention that The Division 2 is still going strong.
Re: Instead of a Splinter Cell Game, What About a Netflix Anime?
@tameshiyaku Rainbow Six Siege is still huge.
Re: Superhero Adventure Game Dispatch Confirmed for PS5, and It's Releasing Episodically
I'm honestly tempted. I just recently bought Star Trek Resurgence and it's gotten me back on board with the Telltale-style games.
For any Trekkies out there, Resurgence is one ugly game, but it absolutely nails the tone and the story (so far) is excellent. Wonderful love letter to 90s Trek.
Re: Instead of a Splinter Cell Game, What About a Netflix Anime?
We're gonna get a Splinter Cell crossover in AC Shadows before we get another game. Green eyes, but blue balls.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Borderlands 4?
The gameplay looks pretty fun, but I've always struggled with the humor of Borderlands. I may be tempted to get this on a steep sale down the road, but we were given 1, 2, and 3 as part of PS Plus, so I'd be more tempted to play those before jumping in here.
As @Northern_munkey says, there are much more interesting games incoming to make space for this one any time soon.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy a PS1 at Launch?
Dreamcast, baby!
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Patch 1.1.1 Out Tomorrow, Adds New Quest, 100 Level Cap, Time Skip, and More
I've spent an absurd amount of time building out the hideout in this game. One day, I'll make the effort to put a video on YouTube or something 😂.Looking forward to the expansion!
Re: 'It Saved the Game': Sword of the Sea Dev Praises Sony, Explains PS Plus Deal
Very tempted to get this one. Love the art style and seems like a great flow-state game. Only played a little of Journey back in the day (don't @ me) and of Giant Squid's games, I've only played Abzu, but enjoyed it.
Seems like a fun one-and-done weekend game.
Re: USA's Top 20 PlayStation Games of All Time May Surprise You
@KundaliniRising333 I don't think that's accurate. There are plenty of gamers (like me and my friends) who play plenty of CoD, but also much more. You can't take a franchise that sells 20mil each year and say only a small subset of "true gamers" buy them; that's a very elitist opinion. Call of Duty may be an easy target for ridicule because it's the top dog and is very iterative, but there are maybe a handful of games that even come close to matching the gunplay of CoD.
CoD is graded on a curve, so people love to say "CoD sucks," but if you took the exact same game and gave it a new name, it would be hailed as a masterclass of gameplay.
Not to your tastes? That's fine. But don't pretend like CoD isn't for "true gamers" just because it's incredibly popular. It's popular for a reason.
Re: Preview: How The Smiths Shaped Suda51's Wildest World Yet in Romeo Is a Dead Man
Always liked the music of the Smiths, but not Morrissey or his vocals. Seemed quite one-note (almost literally).
Re: Sony's Helldivers 2 on Xbox Gamble Is Absolutely Paying Off
@BacklogBrad Fair enough. I understand what you're saying; I just disagree.
Re: Sony's Helldivers 2 on Xbox Gamble Is Absolutely Paying Off
@BacklogBrad We agree that it would be better for us, the consumers, if there weren't any exclusives, but where we differ is I think it's just bad business for Sony. Aside from the games and the operating system, PS5 and Series X are virtually identical, so I'm not sure how the hardware itself is the selling point.
Yeah, probably not an insane amount of PC gamers will buy a console for GTA6, but GTA6 is going to be the biggest video game launch in history, so I wouldn't discount the impact it's going to have. That said, if I was an Xbox One owner and was waiting to upgrade, there is virtually no reason to buy a Series over a PS5 - and that comes down to exclusives. Xbox got clobbered over the last two generations and so they've had to pivot. Don't be fooled by their "we don't believe in exclusives" moral propaganda. Microsoft believes in making money, not being nice to the consumer. If appearing nice to consumers gets them more business, then that's what they'll do, but they would have never brought games to PlayStation if they didn't think they needed to to keep the bottom line in check.
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on 007 First Light?
Day 1 for me, but that was going to be true even without the showcase. I'm a huge James Bond mark. I've read almost all of the Ian Fleming novels and seen most of the movies (the Roger Moore movies are a little too campy for my tastes). As a book fan, I'm really happy to see the cheek scar finally make an appearance.
Re: Sony's Helldivers 2 on Xbox Gamble Is Absolutely Paying Off
@BacklogBrad I disagree. While there are plenty of people that will never change lanes (at least until they're forced to), there are plenty of pragmatists that just go where the games are; they just don't switch mid console generation because that would be financially stupid. Think about how many people are going to buy a PS5 or Xbox Series when GTS6 comes out just because it won't be on PC? Do you think they're more likely to buy a PlayStation or an Xbox? If it's PlayStation, why do you think that is? Spoiler - it's because PlayStation has exclusives that Xbox doesn't have.
Re: Sony's Helldivers 2 on Xbox Gamble Is Absolutely Paying Off
@BacklogBrad It hurts the game, but benefits the platform. If all games went multiplatform, there wouldn't be a differentiating factor. 1st party games aren't designed to maximize profit for the individual game - they're designed to incentivize people to use the ecosystem where the platform makes most of its money from 3rd party sales.
Re: Game of Thrones Star Announced as Lara Croft for Amazon's Tomb Raider TV Show
@gamer153 You know they have access to wigs in Hollywood, right?
Re: Sony's Helldivers 2 on Xbox Gamble Is Absolutely Paying Off
@PlushiePlushie I normally play on level 10, but we bumped it down to 7 and still had a really rough go of it! Such a crazy difficulty spike with this update.
Re: 'The Vast Majority of Players Don't Post on Reddit' - Helldivers 2 Boss Warns of Online Tunnel Vision
@themightyant My thoughts exactly. I can't keep up. If you think there's nothing to play of PS5, then you need a new hobby.
Re: 'The Vast Majority of Players Don't Post on Reddit' - Helldivers 2 Boss Warns of Online Tunnel Vision
I totally agree.
I hear a lot of things on the Sacred Symbols podcast where the host, Colin, will make some assertion like "people keep saying there aren't any games for PS5" and I keep thinking, "I don't know anyone who says that."
Reddit, Twitter, Discord, etc. all skew towards negativity. It's similar on this website where you'd be forgiven thinking that Call of Duty is the most hated franchise on the planet, but the data clearly shows something very different.
Re: Cronos: The New Dawn (PS5) - Captivating, Twisted, and Wickedly Entertaining
Awesome to hear that Bloober landed the plane. By the screenshots alone, the visuals look fantastic from a graphical and atmospheric standpoint.
Re: Sony's Helldivers 2 on Xbox Gamble Is Absolutely Paying Off
Great to see! Xbox users are definitely getting thrown into the deep end for this game. I tried the new bug missions last night and got completely destroyed.
Re: Could You Be Persuaded to Watch a Call of Duty Movie?
@Northern_munkey Is it? Maybe I didn't give it a fair enough shot. Is the lag present in the campaign too? I was craving a Battlefield-like game, but I ended up going back to BF1 and Battlefront 2.
Re: Could You Be Persuaded to Watch a Call of Duty Movie?
@Northern_munkey Another favorite of mine is Black Hawk Down. I had hoped for a quality campaign in Delta Force, but after installing and sitting through the intro cutscene, I had to delete it immediately. Such a bummer.
Re: Could You Be Persuaded to Watch a Call of Duty Movie?
Despite all the snide comments (including mine), this has the potential to be fun, if not good. I don't think anyone would be expecting an Oscar contender, but CoD campaigns are usually entertaining. No reason a movie couldn't be the same.
Re: Could You Be Persuaded to Watch a Call of Duty Movie?
Didn't they do this already? It's called 13 Hours.
Re: Clair Obscur Will Become a Franchise, Expedition 33 the First Game
@Andee This is the way.
Re: Clair Obscur Will Become a Franchise, Expedition 33 the First Game
@MidnightDragonDX Well that's a statement wide open for interpretation haha.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for September 2025 Announced
@LiamCroft I thought they said they were discontinuing PS4-only titles in the Essential games.
Edit: Nevermind, I see that they said that would start in 2026.
Re: Atari Now Owns Rights to Several Ubisoft Games, Will Bring Them to 'New Platforms'
I remember playing I Am Alive in college and really enjoying it. The mechanic of pointing an empty gun at an enemy and hoping they don't realize you have no bullets was such a cool idea.
Re: Gears of War: Reloaded (PS5) - Iconic Xbox Shooter Is the Perfect Intro for PlayStation Fans
@awp69 Metacritic is not something to put a lot of stock in. It's just a weighted average and reviews are opinions. Liam thinks that MGS3 is a better game than GoW and I tend to agree, but it doesn't mean that someone else's opinion isn't valid. Just because you disagree doesn't mean that Liam is wrong, nor does it mean you are.
Re: Gears of War: Reloaded (PS5) - Iconic Xbox Shooter Is the Perfect Intro for PlayStation Fans
This is a wait-for-a-sale game, for me. It'll be a fun romp when the time comes, but $40 is pretty steep for a 6 hour campaign, especially when the MP doesn't interest me.
Today is all about Helldivers 2 and the Obedient Democracy Support Troopers.
Re: Path of Exile 2 Just Gets Better and Better, Is Totally Free to Play This Weekend on PS5
I played this a bunch when they first released in early access, but at this point, I'm waiting for 1.0.
Re: PS5 Price Increases Confirmed for USA, Effective 21st August
@kmtrain83 @Vovander I'd encourage you guys to check out Tom's reporting. He could certainly be wrong or things may change, but he has sources within AMD, NVIDIA, Sony, Microsoft, etc. and he has been incredibly reliable and knowledgeable about stuff like this before (see his reporting on PS5 Pro before it was revealed).
He points to reduced costs of internal tech, better cooling (smaller fan components), smaller silicon dies, better use of PSSR, etc., as well as Sony's desire to make a more affordable unit this time around, similar to the transition from PS3 to PS4, where PS4 was much cheaper at launch, though much more powerful.
I get that the current economic situation is different than 2013, but there's much more than tariffs and inflation to drive the cost of electronics.