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I wish that they hadn't taken Destiny Tracker down; I would love to know how few people still play D2 :lol:

I loved the first game, but Destiny 2 is just boring for me. I don't think Bungie or Activison will do anything about Eververse; the game is dying and they know it, so they will say "may as well make money whilst we still can". :/

LOL, the trailer makes it look like a little kids game? I've never played it, but...really?

Are people still playing Destiny 2? Lol, advert just shows their desperation; their game is sinking like the Titanic.

@PS_Nation The first one is superior in every way except graphics. Destiny 2 is a car crash, and that's me being very generous.

Yeah, he does look like that guy from TWD. At least it's not Kevin Spacey lol.

There is s story going around that Microsoft and Sony are offering refunds on Destiny 2, for people who didn't pre order the DLC, as they have now been locked out of a lot of the original content unless they buy it?

Nice. Looks a bit like Warframe from that small clip.

@robertramsey Can I just ask why you still like playing Destiny 2? The game is painfully bad, and we all know that Bungie will eventually get around to giving everyone the game they originally wanted in a year or so (and another £60 later). This model sucks, and shouldn't be encouraged in any way, surely? You know, the pay for a game in instalments at a vastly inflated price model! 5/10 is very generous.

Star Wars Battlefront aside, I'm glad to see that there has finally been an appropriately big backlash over loot boxes and in game gambling systems. A game like Warframe, for example, has a system where you can pay to have weapons etc instead of grinding for them, but the game itself is free to play; to ask for £45 for a game and then do this is just wrong in my opinion.

Add a couple of paddles and put these vastly overpriced, so called pro controller makers out of business.

I have no idea, but will say 2020 because most others did
I like PS4, and won't be be rushing to get PS5 when it's released; I held out a year for PS4 before getting it. The idea of VR leaves me cold to be honest; I really don't want to be that immersed in a game. Also, how will I look up how to do everything on YT without taking the mask on and off all the time?

Bloody hell! People are still playing Destiny 2?

Meh, I knew the last couple of months were too good to be true.

A crate of beer at xmas.

I have that sinking feeling about the Destiny 2 DLC. I forsee that they won't address any of the actual issues with the game, and will simply add more cosmetic guns and armour, with a little bit more storyline.

I stopped playing for all the reasons already stated. None of the changes will make a big difference to the utter pointlessness of playing Destiny 2. It's a game built for casuals, so let them play it whilst I wait for a proper MMO to sink my time into.

Well, there are a lot of gullible people out there.

Destiny 2. They will have to give it away soon

Don't care. Have stopped playing it along with two thirds of the player base. If Bungie want to know what players think they should take a look at Destiny Tracker.

I would advocate avoiding games with microtransactions, but I know that it's hard for people who really want those games to resist them; it's like putting sweets at the supermarket checkout. Best advice is buy the games but avoid the microtransactions.

I still prefer single player games. They tend to have better stories and character development, and are replayable on harder difficulty levels, so you can get very good value from many of them. Also, purchasing them used can be a more cost effective way of gaming for many people. MMOs are ok, but the recent Destiny 2 debacle has taught me that sometimes I can get more playablity from a single player game

LOL, makes Destiny 2 look like Game of the Year. Can't believe people are still making this last gen stuff.

@themcnoisy I was expecting something better and more develpoed than Destiny 1, but we seem to have nothing but generic weapons and armour; yes, there are a lot of them, but they are all too similar. For example, the Iron Banner weapons are reskins of existing weaopns, whereas in D1, they weren't. Gear that you got from the raids had perks that helped you with the raid, now they are just cosmetic from what I can see. It's lazy game making from Bungie imo.

@OutspokenHuman multiplayer was 10x better in Destiny 1 though, to be fair.

I got bored with it already too. To add to what'a already been said, I think PVP is a mess, and that was always a big draw for me in D1. They need dedicated servers to stop the lag issues and it needs to go back to 6 v 6 imo. Also, if you take the example of Iron Banner, the guns and armour in D2 are low light level; the point of IB in D1 was that it got you a stack of high level gear, now its fairly pointless, also the weapons are reskins of existing weapons. There is no variety in the game. It feels like Bungie are bing lazy.

I don't like tham generally, but have occasionally bought a couple of cosmetic things in ESO. If you don't like them, just don't buy them. What I really don't like i pay to win stuff.

@dark_knightmare2 The other thing, for me anyway, is no Rumble. I used to love warming up with a few games. My guess is that they will sell us back all the stuff they took out as part of DLC packages; that's very Bungie, so generous!

Crucible back to 6 v 6.
Dedicated servers.
More, and better, Crucible maps
Exotics that are worthy of the name
A new guardian class
Free money and sex...

I still play it, but my interest is waning. My main activity in D1 was Crucible, but frankly, it's a joke in D2, just a team shoot fest with all of the subtlety and variety of strategy taken out; boring! Never liked the PVE much anyway

It's a real pain. The game is crashing every other time I go to the Tower at the moment? Maintenance seems to create as many issues as it solves for me. I already feel that D2 won't have the content to sustain itself longer term, and this downtime crap doesn't help at all.

Nice!!

I like both types of game. The issue with games like Destiny, is that they struggle to keep up with the demand for content that the game engenders. With Destiny 2, players are expecting more than with Destiny 1, and i think Bungie will struggle to meet demand. These games don't keep a huge playerbase all througout their life cycle; it rises and falls in line with new content, events etc, which players are paying for.

Yeah, gotta say it's a right royal pain. There's been a lot of down time in a fairly short period since relesase. Having said that, I agree with others who mentioned the amount of content; there's not a lot left to do until reset tomorrow. They seem to have learned very little from 3 years of D1, and are destined to make the same mistakes. Also, unless you are a streamer or YT video content provider with 100k plus subs, they don't give a monkeys about you or what you think of their game. Just saying!

Horizon Zero Dawn & Battlefield 1 please.

I think there is room for both types of game. I like multiplayers like Destiny and ESO, but a lot of people don't want to be tied into PS+ and online only games, which is understandable.

Dead Orbit for me. Looks like it's gonna be pretty quiet on the other two factions

This is bad. Way too much of this in such a short time since release. Don't they realise we all have stuff to be getting on with? Also, they should switch the maintenance times around between US and EU every 2nd maintenance, so EU doesn't always get the short straw.

Awww...wish I'd gone digital now

Lol, I never finish everything in a game; I don't have a single platinum trophy and I'm proud of it. No OCD here

I reckon 8 is a fair enough score and the review does mention the crucible as being an issue, which I agree with; it's not as good as in Destiny 1 in any way imo. 4 x 4 is limiting the variety of playstyles, forcing players to run around in mobs of 4 and teamshooting, and also, why did they take away the ability to choose which mode you play? A backward step, surely?
One personal bugbear is no dedicated servers, which is very poor in 2017.
Other than that, bang on really.

I would have guessed that sales would be lower to be honest. I think that burn out will be a big factor, given that 2 is so similar to 1; something that I hope reviewers are intending to be honest about. I mean, if Bungie are expecting those who played for 3 years on D1 do the same with D2; hmm...that's 6 years of playing essentially one game. Seems unlikely.
Different story for those new to the game of course.

I pre ordered, and I'm enjoying it. I would say though, that to all intents and purposes it's a reskin of D1 with a few convenience upgrades, and having played D1 for a long time, I'm not sure that D2 will hold my attention for anywhere near as long. I predict it will all be over by Christmas

I like the game so far, obviously Destiny 2 was always going to be more Destiny, so no disappointments there. The shader thing is a bummer, but not the end of the world. Microtransactions in gaming are just generally grim and greedy, but if anyone can find a way to get more and more, they will use it

Played for about 3 hours today and all went really well. Can't get into the crucible yet as queue doesn't seem to move, but there is plenty of stuff to be getting on with. Stand out hings so far are graphics and the shooting mechanic, which is better than D1 (am loving those hand cannons). Well done Bungie so far...

I played it for 1st year, stopped for 6 months, played for another year and stopped. Had to have breaks from it or I would have gone nuts. Having had a nice rest, I will be getting D2 on release.

Given the amount of time I spent playing D1, I would say it was worth what I paid for it and then some. Just hope that Bungie make all of the very necessary changes needed from D1.

Free psychedelics.

Destiny 2

Yeah, same as D1. You pay for the game, then only get the game you should have got after paying 2 or 3 more times. It's the beginning of the end imo.

That didn't really show us much more than we've seen already.
I will be waiting for reviews first before buying.