I would say that it would have been a good thing if Sony had designed the PS4 so that it could have had backward compatibility, but for obvious cynical monetary reasons, they didn't. On reflection, maybe next time I will buy and Xbox
Nah. I'm not gonna slag them off, but the bottom line is that they tried to treat us like mugs, and it backfired. I don't trust them. Also, there was a lot about the game I didn't like compared to Destiny 1. So no loss to me, and I have moved on to better games.
I stopped playing it mid October as there was nothing much to do, and very little to play for; it doesn't seem like much has changed since then. I took it off my PS4 to make room for other stuff anyway, so...
@Paranoimia Yeah, I agree. I only buy stuff in sales from the store, when the prices become equivalent to what you would pay for it on disc, or less. Some people have got the money to spare and prefer digital, but not most by any means.
I loved the first game, but Destiny 2 is just boring for me. I don't think Bungie or Activison will do anything about Eververse; the game is dying and they know it, so they will say "may as well make money whilst we still can". :/
There is s story going around that Microsoft and Sony are offering refunds on Destiny 2, for people who didn't pre order the DLC, as they have now been locked out of a lot of the original content unless they buy it?
@robertramsey Can I just ask why you still like playing Destiny 2? The game is painfully bad, and we all know that Bungie will eventually get around to giving everyone the game they originally wanted in a year or so (and another £60 later). This model sucks, and shouldn't be encouraged in any way, surely? You know, the pay for a game in instalments at a vastly inflated price model! 5/10 is very generous.
Star Wars Battlefront aside, I'm glad to see that there has finally been an appropriately big backlash over loot boxes and in game gambling systems. A game like Warframe, for example, has a system where you can pay to have weapons etc instead of grinding for them, but the game itself is free to play; to ask for £45 for a game and then do this is just wrong in my opinion.
I have no idea, but will say 2020 because most others did I like PS4, and won't be be rushing to get PS5 when it's released; I held out a year for PS4 before getting it. The idea of VR leaves me cold to be honest; I really don't want to be that immersed in a game. Also, how will I look up how to do everything on YT without taking the mask on and off all the time?
I have that sinking feeling about the Destiny 2 DLC. I forsee that they won't address any of the actual issues with the game, and will simply add more cosmetic guns and armour, with a little bit more storyline.
I stopped playing for all the reasons already stated. None of the changes will make a big difference to the utter pointlessness of playing Destiny 2. It's a game built for casuals, so let them play it whilst I wait for a proper MMO to sink my time into.
Don't care. Have stopped playing it along with two thirds of the player base. If Bungie want to know what players think they should take a look at Destiny Tracker.
I would advocate avoiding games with microtransactions, but I know that it's hard for people who really want those games to resist them; it's like putting sweets at the supermarket checkout. Best advice is buy the games but avoid the microtransactions.
I still prefer single player games. They tend to have better stories and character development, and are replayable on harder difficulty levels, so you can get very good value from many of them. Also, purchasing them used can be a more cost effective way of gaming for many people. MMOs are ok, but the recent Destiny 2 debacle has taught me that sometimes I can get more playablity from a single player game
@themcnoisy I was expecting something better and more develpoed than Destiny 1, but we seem to have nothing but generic weapons and armour; yes, there are a lot of them, but they are all too similar. For example, the Iron Banner weapons are reskins of existing weaopns, whereas in D1, they weren't. Gear that you got from the raids had perks that helped you with the raid, now they are just cosmetic from what I can see. It's lazy game making from Bungie imo.
I got bored with it already too. To add to what'a already been said, I think PVP is a mess, and that was always a big draw for me in D1. They need dedicated servers to stop the lag issues and it needs to go back to 6 v 6 imo. Also, if you take the example of Iron Banner, the guns and armour in D2 are low light level; the point of IB in D1 was that it got you a stack of high level gear, now its fairly pointless, also the weapons are reskins of existing weapons. There is no variety in the game. It feels like Bungie are bing lazy.
I don't like tham generally, but have occasionally bought a couple of cosmetic things in ESO. If you don't like them, just don't buy them. What I really don't like i pay to win stuff.
@dark_knightmare2 The other thing, for me anyway, is no Rumble. I used to love warming up with a few games. My guess is that they will sell us back all the stuff they took out as part of DLC packages; that's very Bungie, so generous!
Crucible back to 6 v 6. Dedicated servers. More, and better, Crucible maps Exotics that are worthy of the name A new guardian class Free money and sex...
I still play it, but my interest is waning. My main activity in D1 was Crucible, but frankly, it's a joke in D2, just a team shoot fest with all of the subtlety and variety of strategy taken out; boring! Never liked the PVE much anyway
It's a real pain. The game is crashing every other time I go to the Tower at the moment? Maintenance seems to create as many issues as it solves for me. I already feel that D2 won't have the content to sustain itself longer term, and this downtime crap doesn't help at all.
I like both types of game. The issue with games like Destiny, is that they struggle to keep up with the demand for content that the game engenders. With Destiny 2, players are expecting more than with Destiny 1, and i think Bungie will struggle to meet demand. These games don't keep a huge playerbase all througout their life cycle; it rises and falls in line with new content, events etc, which players are paying for.
Yeah, gotta say it's a right royal pain. There's been a lot of down time in a fairly short period since relesase. Having said that, I agree with others who mentioned the amount of content; there's not a lot left to do until reset tomorrow. They seem to have learned very little from 3 years of D1, and are destined to make the same mistakes. Also, unless you are a streamer or YT video content provider with 100k plus subs, they don't give a monkeys about you or what you think of their game. Just saying!
I think there is room for both types of game. I like multiplayers like Destiny and ESO, but a lot of people don't want to be tied into PS+ and online only games, which is understandable.
This is bad. Way too much of this in such a short time since release. Don't they realise we all have stuff to be getting on with? Also, they should switch the maintenance times around between US and EU every 2nd maintenance, so EU doesn't always get the short straw.
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Re: Talking Point: What Free February 2018 PlayStation Plus Games Do You Want?
Am hoping for Far Cry Primal. Knowing my luck it will be Destiny 2
Re: Oh FFS, Bungie's Screwed Up with Destiny 2 Yet Again
Predictable sadly. Bungie are starting to look like the arch cynics of the gaming world, and that's up against some tough competition.
Re: PS4 Firmware 5.50 Incoming as Sony Opens Beta Test Sign-Ups
I would say that it would have been a good thing if Sony had designed the PS4 so that it could have had backward compatibility, but for obvious cynical monetary reasons, they didn't. On reflection, maybe next time I will buy and Xbox
Re: Bungie Plans on Making a Lot of Changes to Destiny 2, Details it All in New Blog Post
Nah. I'm not gonna slag them off, but the bottom line is that they tried to treat us like mugs, and it backfired. I don't trust them. Also, there was a lot about the game I didn't like compared to Destiny 1. So no loss to me, and I have moved on to better games.
Re: There's Another Licensed PS4 'Pro' Controller Out Next Week
I checked on this and it is basically the DS4 but with asymmetrical sticks; nothing "Pro" about it at all? Wonder what it costs?
Re: There's Another Licensed PS4 'Pro' Controller Out Next Week
So what's the difference between this and the normal PS4 controller, apart from the sticks? Does it have paddles underneath and stuff like a scuff?
Re: SIE CEO John Kodera Says not to Worry About First Party Games Going the Service Route
@AlejandroMora why is nobody allowed to express an opinion without you passive/aggressive folk telling them to chill out all the time?
On topic, I think we will have to wait and see.
Re: Insomniac Games Weighs in on the Dangers of the Vocal Minority
So you all think that producing products without listening to what anyone thinks is a good idea? This is market research guys, all businesses do it.
Re: Destiny 2 Game Director Promises to Disclose Game's Future on Thursday
I stopped playing it mid October as there was nothing much to do, and very little to play for; it doesn't seem like much has changed since then. I took it off my PS4 to make room for other stuff anyway, so...
Re: Feature: 5 Ways the PlayStation Store Must Improve in 2018
@Paranoimia Yeah, I agree. I only buy stuff in sales from the store, when the prices become equivalent to what you would pay for it on disc, or less. Some people have got the money to spare and prefer digital, but not most by any means.
Re: Destiny 2 Is Going Offline for 5 Hours Today
I wish that they hadn't taken Destiny Tracker down; I would love to know how few people still play D2 :lol:
Re: Destiny 2 Players Continue Large Scale Campaign Against Microtransactions
I loved the first game, but Destiny 2 is just boring for me. I don't think Bungie or Activison will do anything about Eververse; the game is dying and they know it, so they will say "may as well make money whilst we still can". :/
Re: Game of the Year 2017: #1 - Persona 5
LOL, the trailer makes it look like a little kids game? I've never played it, but...really?
Re: PS4 Users Angry After Destiny 2 Advert Appears on Main System Menu
Are people still playing Destiny 2? Lol, advert just shows their desperation; their game is sinking like the Titanic.
Re: Destiny 2 Down for 7 Hours as Bungie Fixes Its Locked Content Mistakes
@PS_Nation The first one is superior in every way except graphics. Destiny 2 is a car crash, and that's me being very generous.
Re: Hideo Kojima Explains Death Stranding, Blows Minds
Yeah, he does look like that guy from TWD. At least it's not Kevin Spacey lol.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Order Is Established As the Releases Dry Up
There is s story going around that Microsoft and Sony are offering refunds on Destiny 2, for people who didn't pre order the DLC, as they have now been locked out of a lot of the original content unless they buy it?
Re: PSX 2017: Lost Soul Aside Will Keep You Occupied Until Devil May Cry 5
Nice. Looks a bit like Warframe from that small clip.
Re: Review: Destiny 2: Curse of Osiris (PS4)
@robertramsey Can I just ask why you still like playing Destiny 2? The game is painfully bad, and we all know that Bungie will eventually get around to giving everyone the game they originally wanted in a year or so (and another £60 later). This model sucks, and shouldn't be encouraged in any way, surely? You know, the pay for a game in instalments at a vastly inflated price model! 5/10 is very generous.
Re: 'We Will Fix This' Says Star Wars Battlefront 2 Dev as Loot Box Outrage Rumbles On
Star Wars Battlefront aside, I'm glad to see that there has finally been an appropriately big backlash over loot boxes and in game gambling systems. A game like Warframe, for example, has a system where you can pay to have weapons etc instead of grinding for them, but the game itself is free to play; to ask for £45 for a game and then do this is just wrong in my opinion.
Re: Sony Surveying Gamers on the DualShock 4
Add a couple of paddles and put these vastly overpriced, so called pro controller makers out of business.
Re: PS5 Is Still At Least Two Years Away, Says Ubisoft
I have no idea, but will say 2020 because most others did
I like PS4, and won't be be rushing to get PS5 when it's released; I held out a year for PS4 before getting it. The idea of VR leaves me cold to be honest; I really don't want to be that immersed in a game. Also, how will I look up how to do everything on YT without taking the mask on and off all the time?
Re: Oh FFS, There's a Loot Cave in Destiny 2
Bloody hell! People are still playing Destiny 2?
Re: November PlayStation Plus Games Announced
Meh, I knew the last couple of months were too good to be true.
Re: Sony Wants to Make PlayStation Plus Even More Attractive to Members
A crate of beer at xmas.
Re: PGW 2017: Destiny 2: Curse of Osiris Has a PS4 Exclusive Map at Launch
I have that sinking feeling about the Destiny 2 DLC. I forsee that they won't address any of the actual issues with the game, and will simply add more cosmetic guns and armour, with a little bit more storyline.
Re: Destiny 2 Endgame, Loot, Rewards are Being Improved, Bungie Reveals Upcoming Changes
I stopped playing for all the reasons already stated. None of the changes will make a big difference to the utter pointlessness of playing Destiny 2. It's a game built for casuals, so let them play it whilst I wait for a proper MMO to sink my time into.
Re: Officially Licensed PlayStation Glasses Promise to Make You a Better Player
Well, there are a lot of gullible people out there.
Re: Talking Point: What Free November 2017 PlayStation Plus Games Do You Want?
Destiny 2. They will have to give it away soon
Re: Destiny 2 Is Down For Maintenance at Prime Playing Hours Yet Again In Europe
Don't care. Have stopped playing it along with two thirds of the player base. If Bungie want to know what players think they should take a look at Destiny Tracker.
Re: Microtransactions Are Being Implemented in the Scariest of Ways
I would advocate avoiding games with microtransactions, but I know that it's hard for people who really want those games to resist them; it's like putting sweets at the supermarket checkout. Best advice is buy the games but avoid the microtransactions.
Re: God of War Director Speaks Out in Defence of Single Player Games
I still prefer single player games. They tend to have better stories and character development, and are replayable on harder difficulty levels, so you can get very good value from many of them. Also, purchasing them used can be a more cost effective way of gaming for many people. MMOs are ok, but the recent Destiny 2 debacle has taught me that sometimes I can get more playablity from a single player game
Re: Wait, Open World, Sci-Fi Action RPG ELEX Is Out on PS4 Tomorrow?
LOL, makes Destiny 2 look like Game of the Year. Can't believe people are still making this last gen stuff.
Re: Destiny 2 Retail Sales Down a Whopping 50 Per Cent in USA
@themcnoisy I was expecting something better and more develpoed than Destiny 1, but we seem to have nothing but generic weapons and armour; yes, there are a lot of them, but they are all too similar. For example, the Iron Banner weapons are reskins of existing weaopns, whereas in D1, they weren't. Gear that you got from the raids had perks that helped you with the raid, now they are just cosmetic from what I can see. It's lazy game making from Bungie imo.
Re: Destiny 2 Retail Sales Down a Whopping 50 Per Cent in USA
@OutspokenHuman multiplayer was 10x better in Destiny 1 though, to be fair.
Re: Bungie Is Looking Into Improving Destiny 2's Endgame
I got bored with it already too. To add to what'a already been said, I think PVP is a mess, and that was always a big draw for me in D1. They need dedicated servers to stop the lag issues and it needs to go back to 6 v 6 imo. Also, if you take the example of Iron Banner, the guns and armour in D2 are low light level; the point of IB in D1 was that it got you a stack of high level gear, now its fairly pointless, also the weapons are reskins of existing weapons. There is no variety in the game. It feels like Bungie are bing lazy.
Re: Poll: Where Do You Stand on Microtransactions?
I don't like tham generally, but have occasionally bought a couple of cosmetic things in ESO. If you don't like them, just don't buy them. What I really don't like i pay to win stuff.
Re: Poll: Are You Still Playing Destiny 2 One Month Later?
@dark_knightmare2 The other thing, for me anyway, is no Rumble. I used to love warming up with a few games. My guess is that they will sell us back all the stuff they took out as part of DLC packages; that's very Bungie, so generous!
Re: Bungie Wants to Know What You Want from Destiny 2's First Expansion
Crucible back to 6 v 6.
Dedicated servers.
More, and better, Crucible maps
Exotics that are worthy of the name
A new guardian class
Free money and sex...
Re: Poll: Are You Still Playing Destiny 2 One Month Later?
I still play it, but my interest is waning. My main activity in D1 was Crucible, but frankly, it's a joke in D2, just a team shoot fest with all of the subtlety and variety of strategy taken out; boring! Never liked the PVE much anyway
Re: Destiny 2 Down For Another 4 Hours Today, European Players Aren't Too Happy
It's a real pain. The game is crashing every other time I go to the Tower at the moment? Maintenance seems to create as many issues as it solves for me. I already feel that D2 won't have the content to sustain itself longer term, and this downtime crap doesn't help at all.
Re: October PlayStation Plus Games Announced
Nice!!
Re: Single Player Games Are Really Struggling Right Now
I like both types of game. The issue with games like Destiny, is that they struggle to keep up with the demand for content that the game engenders. With Destiny 2, players are expecting more than with Destiny 1, and i think Bungie will struggle to meet demand. These games don't keep a huge playerbase all througout their life cycle; it rises and falls in line with new content, events etc, which players are paying for.
Re: Destiny 2 Is Down for 6 Whole Hours Today
Yeah, gotta say it's a right royal pain. There's been a lot of down time in a fairly short period since relesase. Having said that, I agree with others who mentioned the amount of content; there's not a lot left to do until reset tomorrow. They seem to have learned very little from 3 years of D1, and are destined to make the same mistakes. Also, unless you are a streamer or YT video content provider with 100k plus subs, they don't give a monkeys about you or what you think of their game. Just saying!
Re: Talking Point: What Free October 2017 PlayStation Plus Games Do You Want?
Horizon Zero Dawn & Battlefield 1 please.
Re: Square Enix Wants to Focus More on Multiplayer and Service Games Going Forward
I think there is room for both types of game. I like multiplayers like Destiny and ESO, but a lot of people don't want to be tied into PS+ and online only games, which is understandable.
Re: Familiar Faces Return to Destiny 2 in Faction Rallies
Dead Orbit for me. Looks like it's gonna be pretty quiet on the other two factions
Re: Destiny 2 Is Down for Another Few Hours Today
This is bad. Way too much of this in such a short time since release. Don't they realise we all have stuff to be getting on with? Also, they should switch the maintenance times around between US and EU every 2nd maintenance, so EU doesn't always get the short straw.
Re: Destiny 2 Is the PlayStation Store's Biggest Ever Day One Launch
Awww...wish I'd gone digital now
Re: Soapbox: Open World OCD - How Too Much Content Can Ruin a Game
Lol, I never finish everything in a game; I don't have a single platinum trophy and I'm proud of it. No OCD here