Played it through at launch, and then again with all of the DLC. Put about 350 hours into it already. It looks really good in the videos I've seen, but I'll just have to see if I hit a lull in the games I already have lined up, many through PS+.
My subscription to Premium ends in 10 days. So I'm left with the choice of waiting that long and seeing if the promotion is still going, risking having to pay $100 for Extra, or choosing just to stick with Premium for $90 now.
I guess I'll wait a few days before I make my choice and see if they fix this.
I guess we'll see what's new with this one beyond the graphics. My second playthrough with all of the DLC was so meticulously complete that I'm not sure how much fun I'd have going a third round. Especially after putting in about 350 hours into the game.
Is there a big market for Atari games still? Who's the intended audience?
I grew up with these games. They were the best thing that I had until the end of the 80s when my family could afford a NES. And while I have some nostalgia for that era because it was a part of my childhood, I've never once wanted to play an Atari game after that point again.
@NEStalgia Thank you for the very well thought out and well stated reply. That makes sense. I guess my own age and perspective had me look at it in a different way.
Either way, I guess its fair to say that I won't be getting my own personal niche from JRPGs again. I have to keep my fingers crossed for Bioware, who seems to be the only developer intent on making more of the specific thing that I'm after.
@NEStalgia I guess my feeling is that in the NES and SNES days, the tech simply didn't exist to offer better graphics, so the player was left to use their imagination. That's certainly how I did it back in the day when I was a teenager in that era.
But as tech got better, so did JRPGs for a while. FF 7-12 are all games that were at least in the conversation of better graphics and gameplay in their eras. Sometimes Square would look to push the envelope in a direction that didn't work well, but that's OK too.
But then once the PS3 era started, and other studios started to really crank out games that looked fantastic, the Japanese RPG studios all seemed to just not have an idea about how to keep up, and a lot of them, in my view, just gave up and went to the anime graphics at that point.
For younger gamers, 15-16 years might seem like forever, or thats the way that its always been. But I was 30 at that point, LOL. So my expections were set and haven't really changed.
I've been playing JRPGs since the late 80s, with Dragon Warrior and the original Final Fantasy. And I miss the days when the genre was at the cutting edge of game development and design. That really hasn't been the case since the end of the PS2 era, sadly.
Do you guys think that we'll ever get another fantasy setting party based RPG that has top end graphics, UI, smooth controls, ect? Or are the anime style ones just all that there will ever be? I just have a hard time getting interested in those. I want a game that looks and feels like Horizon or Ghost of Tsushima, but as a party based game.
I still remember watching the reveal of Uncharted and Assassin's Creed at the E3 Expo the year before that, and being so excited for what the PS3 generation could bring. Both were very revolutionary in their day.
It does hit me hard that games which came out the year that I turned 30 are now 15! My young adult gaming days are in the rear view mirror.
Its interesting to see the change in discussion about Unity. The game was absolutely blasted and outright hated by so many people when it was new. Bugs or not (and I played it after most of the issues had been ironed out), I think that its very easily the worst AC game, and that the series had bottomed out with it, and could have died had they not made the switch to RPG with Origins.
Playing games without an English dub is frustrating, but its not as bad as trying to watch anime and read as fast as possible. I grew up playing games before anything was voiced, so its not foreign to me. Still, I would STRONGLY prefer an English version of any game.
I'm pretty new to the series. I tried out Yakuza 0 and another earlier game and didn't like them at all. But I still gave the one titled Like a Dragon (7?) a try, and I'm loving it. Its a lot of fun, and I really like the tone compared to the others.
So while I don't really care what its called, I'm hoping that future games feature the gameplay and style of the newest one, and not the dark and overly cinematic features of the others.
@djlard I'm not really sure what Infinity really even is yet, other than it seems to involve an online component, and I play offline single player exclusively. I want a lot more games like Odyssey.
@daveofduncan No friends or social life, more like it, lol. But regardless, my style is to play one game at a time, about two hours a night, for two months or so until I complete it. I love really big games, and the last two AC's were wonderful.
Very disappointing news. I've played every mainline AC game since the very start, but I'll wait on this one until it goes on a big sale. No way am I spending that much money on a game I'll finish in a week. Give me more 150 hour worlds, please!
@Zenne96 I completely agree with you. The fact that they screwed up the modern story, or even forgot about it for a few games doesn't mean that its a bad idea. I want a lot more of it, just better written and thought out.
@SerJosh97 Please don't come at me with that. I'm in my 40s and have been a Sony gamer since I was in college 25 years ago. I'm not a foolish child.
I play games slowly and carefully, exploring every corner of the map, talking to every NPC, max leveling my characters and checking off every quest on the list that it gives me. My play throughs are generally about 25% longer than the average completionist.
Here are some examples of games I put a ton of time into and didn't come close to getting the majority of the trophies:
I put 261 hours into AC Valhalla earlier this year and have 49% of the trophies. 63 hours with Biomutant, and 56%. 147 hours with Dragon Quest XI and 57%. 126 hours with FF12 remaster, and 32%. 78 hours with FF 15, and 39%. 95 hours with Immortals: Fenyx Rising and 41%. 130 hours with Persona 5 and 67%. 74 hours with Ghost of Tsushima and 51%. 57 hours with the FF 7 remake and 51%. And the big boy, The Witcher 3 with 370 hours and 49%.
Games where I got over 80% recently are the two Horizons, AC Odyssey, the Mass Effect LE,
Zero Platinums in however long they've been tracking it, and zero concern over it. Most games include stupid trophies that have little or nothing to do with actually playing the game.
I guess I shouldn't be shocked, but it looks and feels SO MUCH like FF15. Its too lightweight, and too much zipping around for me. I need a slower pace, and a character with more weight to them, preferably.
I had been excited for this one, but now I'm taking a pause and needing to see more.
Yes absolutely. I've had Like a Dragon recommended to me by a few people and had considered buying it, but had not yet. So to get it for free is fantastic. First time thats happened for me in a long while.
I'm also interested in the other Yakuza games that are coming to the higher tiers as well. Same deal.
I played the game, but didn't love it. Very repetitive, limited scope, and a few really annoying characters. I don't know that I would play a Persona 6 even should they make one. I just didn't feel like had close to the control over the characters and the action that I want or need to. More like an interactive story.
Given that its free, I'm in. The question is how useful it will be for someone like me who doesn't play online games. How much will I be rewarded for playing games offline on a regular basis? Will we be able to track progress for what we're trying to do?
If I can earn money towards buying games on the PS Store, or extending my PS+ sub, then its cool. Also, it would be nice if they made some of it retroactive and gave those of us who've been around a while some sort of bonus. I've had the same Playstation account since the PS2 era. Just saying.
I remain strongly disappointed in their choice of casting, and how long it took for the movie to come together. I did not see it in the cinema. However, I will watch it for free on Netflix and give it an honest chance.
I waited to buy a PS4 until it had been on the market for about ten months because I had no interest in the release lineup. But when I went to buy one, I had absolutely no trouble. The shelves were full. That's obviously not the case now with the PS5. I know that more sales are a good thing for Sony, but as a long time PS gamer, its very frustrating that I'm having so much harder of a time finding one for myself due to much higher demand. Fingers crossed that they do actually increase production and most of us who want one can get it.
Greedfall is probably the best attempt at a Bioware game by a smaller studio that I've played. It was a really enjoyable experience. Very much looking forward to seeing more about the sequel.
I'm never going to sign up for the top tier, period.
As for moving up from the basic to the second level, it will depend on how many games are in the list that I'm interested in. For now, there aren't very many, as I typically have bought the ones I was very interested in as they came out.
Nothing I've seen or read makes it seem like a FF game whatsoever. I've been playing the series since 1990, and badly want more party-based RPGs, but this looks more like a wacky single character action game.
I have played Final Fantasy since the original on the NES in 1990. I've played every mainline release and enjoyed most of them. But I am not enthused about this one so far. From what I've seen, it doesn't even seem to be a party-based RPG, which is basically throwing the idea of a FF game out the window, and making it into a generic JRPG if thats the case.
At this rate, I'd say that the hope of things getting better this year is pretty much dead. At some point, retailers are going to start hoarding units for the holidays, that's going to be an insane mess, and there are probably going to be none to be found for a long time in early 2023 because of it.
Depressingly, saying that it might be easy to find one a year from now might even be too optimistic....
@Porco Honestly, I pay very little attention to online games, so that's all on the extreme periphery of my radar. I do inderstand that they've been hemoraging talent, but all I can do is keep my fingers crossed that it works out.
Bioware is basically the last major developer who's making party based RPGs, and that is my number one preferred video game type. I'm starving for more. So while I'm not by nature an optimistic person, I'm just going to really take a deep breath and count on it working out.
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Re: Poll: Are You Playing The Witcher 3's PS5 Upgrade?
Played it through at launch, and then again with all of the DLC. Put about 350 hours into it already. It looks really good in the videos I've seen, but I'll just have to see if I hit a lull in the games I already have lined up, many through PS+.
Re: Poll: What Is Your PS5, PS4 Game of the Year 2022?
My top games that were new to me in the past year:
1. Horizon Forbidden West
2. AC: Valhalla
3. Sackboy
4. Gran Turismo 7
5. Yakuza Like a Dragon
Re: Poll: What Is Your PS5, PS4 Game of the Year 2022?
@dschons I was extremely disappointed when I realized that it was nothing like Greedfall. I just don't have any interest in it.
Re: Sony Says It's Resolved Long-Term PS5 Stock Shortages
Best wishes to everyone who still hasn't been able to get one for themselves yet. Hopefully that's a thing of the past soon.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for December 2022?
ME: LE and Biomutant were the only two new games I bought in all of 2021. So, very good selection, but nothing new on my end.
Re: Disgruntled PS Plus Premium Members Can't Downgrade for Black Friday Discount
My subscription to Premium ends in 10 days. So I'm left with the choice of waiting that long and seeing if the promotion is still going, risking having to pay $100 for Extra, or choosing just to stick with Premium for $90 now.
I guess I'll wait a few days before I make my choice and see if they fix this.
Re: The Witcher 3 PS5 Version Releases 14th December, Details and Gameplay Coming Next Week
I guess we'll see what's new with this one beyond the graphics. My second playthrough with all of the DLC was so meticulously complete that I'm not sure how much fun I'd have going a third round. Especially after putting in about 350 hours into the game.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Thoughts on Protagonists Discussing Puzzles?
Its wonderful, I love it, and I want a lot more of it! (45 year old, lifelong gamer)
Re: The New Witcher Trilogy From CD Projekt Red Has Found Its Director
@Korgon That would be fantastic, and I'm all for it.
Re: PS Plus Premium Gets Five Ratchet & Clank Games on 15th November
Well, if I can't download them, I'd rather just play them on my PS3.
What I'm really waiting for is A Rift Apart to come to the service.
Re: Poll: Will You Pay the PSVR2 Launch Price?
I have zero interest in ever doing VR.
Re: PS Stars: How to Join and Is It Free?
@cheonseojin I have the same thought and concern. It seems really fishy. I'll wait to join until I can do it directly through the PS5.
Re: These Could Be All the Atari Anniversary Collection Games on PS5, PS4
Is there a big market for Atari games still? Who's the intended audience?
I grew up with these games. They were the best thing that I had until the end of the 80s when my family could afford a NES. And while I have some nostalgia for that era because it was a part of my childhood, I've never once wanted to play an Atari game after that point again.
Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure PC Version Dated for 27th October
Does this mean that the PS5 version might finally drop in price?
Re: Sony Wasn't Interested in New JRPG from Ex-Wild Arms Devs
@Paultall Actually Odyssey and Horizon are two of my favorite games of all time. What I would DREAM about is a party based RPG like those two.
Re: Sony Wasn't Interested in New JRPG from Ex-Wild Arms Devs
@NEStalgia Thank you for the very well thought out and well stated reply. That makes sense. I guess my own age and perspective had me look at it in a different way.
Either way, I guess its fair to say that I won't be getting my own personal niche from JRPGs again. I have to keep my fingers crossed for Bioware, who seems to be the only developer intent on making more of the specific thing that I'm after.
Re: Sony Wasn't Interested in New JRPG from Ex-Wild Arms Devs
@NEStalgia I guess my feeling is that in the NES and SNES days, the tech simply didn't exist to offer better graphics, so the player was left to use their imagination. That's certainly how I did it back in the day when I was a teenager in that era.
But as tech got better, so did JRPGs for a while. FF 7-12 are all games that were at least in the conversation of better graphics and gameplay in their eras. Sometimes Square would look to push the envelope in a direction that didn't work well, but that's OK too.
But then once the PS3 era started, and other studios started to really crank out games that looked fantastic, the Japanese RPG studios all seemed to just not have an idea about how to keep up, and a lot of them, in my view, just gave up and went to the anime graphics at that point.
For younger gamers, 15-16 years might seem like forever, or thats the way that its always been. But I was 30 at that point, LOL. So my expections were set and haven't really changed.
Re: Sony Wasn't Interested in New JRPG from Ex-Wild Arms Devs
@NEStalgia Not me. I've been playing slow paced games since I was in middle school, and that's what I want more of.
Re: Sony Wasn't Interested in New JRPG from Ex-Wild Arms Devs
I've been playing JRPGs since the late 80s, with Dragon Warrior and the original Final Fantasy. And I miss the days when the genre was at the cutting edge of game development and design. That really hasn't been the case since the end of the PS2 era, sadly.
Do you guys think that we'll ever get another fantasy setting party based RPG that has top end graphics, UI, smooth controls, ect? Or are the anime style ones just all that there will ever be? I just have a hard time getting interested in those. I want a game that looks and feels like Horizon or Ghost of Tsushima, but as a party based game.
Re: Uncharted: Drake's Fortune Is Old Enough to Apply for Its Learner's Permit
I still remember watching the reveal of Uncharted and Assassin's Creed at the E3 Expo the year before that, and being so excited for what the PS3 generation could bring. Both were very revolutionary in their day.
It does hit me hard that games which came out the year that I turned 30 are now 15! My young adult gaming days are in the rear view mirror.
Re: Assassin's Creed Mirage Will Try to Bring Unity's Highly Praised Parkour System Back
Its interesting to see the change in discussion about Unity. The game was absolutely blasted and outright hated by so many people when it was new. Bugs or not (and I played it after most of the issues had been ironed out), I think that its very easily the worst AC game, and that the series had bottomed out with it, and could have died had they not made the switch to RPG with Origins.
Re: Like a Dragon: Ishin! Won't Have an English Dub
Playing games without an English dub is frustrating, but its not as bad as trying to watch anime and read as fast as possible. I grew up playing games before anything was voiced, so its not foreign to me. Still, I would STRONGLY prefer an English version of any game.
Re: SEGA Is Dropping the 'Yakuza' Name from Now On
I'm pretty new to the series. I tried out Yakuza 0 and another earlier game and didn't like them at all. But I still gave the one titled Like a Dragon (7?) a try, and I'm loving it. Its a lot of fun, and I really like the tone compared to the others.
So while I don't really care what its called, I'm hoping that future games feature the gameplay and style of the newest one, and not the dark and overly cinematic features of the others.
Re: Assassin's Creed Mirage Likely Won't Take 100 Hours to Beat
@djlard I'm not really sure what Infinity really even is yet, other than it seems to involve an online component, and I play offline single player exclusively. I want a lot more games like Odyssey.
Re: Assassin's Creed Mirage Likely Won't Take 100 Hours to Beat
@daveofduncan No friends or social life, more like it, lol. But regardless, my style is to play one game at a time, about two hours a night, for two months or so until I complete it. I love really big games, and the last two AC's were wonderful.
Re: Assassin's Creed Mirage Likely Won't Take 100 Hours to Beat
Very disappointing news. I've played every mainline AC game since the very start, but I'll wait on this one until it goes on a big sale. No way am I spending that much money on a game I'll finish in a week. Give me more 150 hour worlds, please!
Re: Assassin's Creed's Modern Day Storyline Will Be Relegated to Infinity, the New Series Hub
@Zenne96 I completely agree with you. The fact that they screwed up the modern story, or even forgot about it for a few games doesn't mean that its a bad idea. I want a lot more of it, just better written and thought out.
Re: Americans Earn the Fewest Platinum Trophies for PS5, PS4
@SerJosh97 Please don't come at me with that. I'm in my 40s and have been a Sony gamer since I was in college 25 years ago. I'm not a foolish child.
I play games slowly and carefully, exploring every corner of the map, talking to every NPC, max leveling my characters and checking off every quest on the list that it gives me. My play throughs are generally about 25% longer than the average completionist.
Here are some examples of games I put a ton of time into and didn't come close to getting the majority of the trophies:
I put 261 hours into AC Valhalla earlier this year and have 49% of the trophies. 63 hours with Biomutant, and 56%. 147 hours with Dragon Quest XI and 57%. 126 hours with FF12 remaster, and 32%. 78 hours with FF 15, and 39%. 95 hours with Immortals: Fenyx Rising and 41%. 130 hours with Persona 5 and 67%. 74 hours with Ghost of Tsushima and 51%. 57 hours with the FF 7 remake and 51%. And the big boy, The Witcher 3 with 370 hours and 49%.
Games where I got over 80% recently are the two Horizons, AC Odyssey, the Mass Effect LE,
Re: Americans Earn the Fewest Platinum Trophies for PS5, PS4
Zero Platinums in however long they've been tracking it, and zero concern over it. Most games include stupid trophies that have little or nothing to do with actually playing the game.
Re: Watch 10 Minutes of Forspoken PS5 Gameplay in New Overview Video
I guess I shouldn't be shocked, but it looks and feels SO MUCH like FF15. Its too lightweight, and too much zipping around for me. I need a slower pace, and a character with more weight to them, preferably.
I had been excited for this one, but now I'm taking a pause and needing to see more.
Re: Poll: Did You Ever Use PS5 Accolades?
I don't play online, so its never something I paid any attention to.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy With Your PS Plus Essential Games for August 2022?
Yes absolutely. I've had Like a Dragon recommended to me by a few people and had considered buying it, but had not yet. So to get it for free is fantastic. First time thats happened for me in a long while.
I'm also interested in the other Yakuza games that are coming to the higher tiers as well. Same deal.
Re: No Free PS4 to PS5 Upgrade Path for Persona 5 Royal
I played the game, but didn't love it. Very repetitive, limited scope, and a few really annoying characters. I don't know that I would play a Persona 6 even should they make one. I just didn't feel like had close to the control over the characters and the action that I want or need to. More like an interactive story.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Stray?
Well, technically I'm not playing it, but I downloaded it via PS+ and my 11 and 8 year old daughters are.
Re: Poll: What PS Stars Rewards Do You Want?
Given that its free, I'm in. The question is how useful it will be for someone like me who doesn't play online games. How much will I be rewarded for playing games offline on a regular basis? Will we be able to track progress for what we're trying to do?
If I can earn money towards buying games on the PS Store, or extending my PS+ sub, then its cool. Also, it would be nice if they made some of it retroactive and gave those of us who've been around a while some sort of bonus. I've had the same Playstation account since the PS2 era. Just saying.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Will Have Party Members After All, But You Won't Be Controlling Them
I've played the FF series since the start on the NES. This is simply not a FF title. Square has lost their way.
Hopefully, some other studios can pick up the mantle and create AAA party based RPGs, because its my favorite genre, but its been dying a slow death.
Re: Uncharted Movie Plunders Netflix from 15th July
I remain strongly disappointed in their choice of casting, and how long it took for the movie to come together. I did not see it in the cinema. However, I will watch it for free on Netflix and give it an honest chance.
Re: Poll: Will You Buy The Last of Us: Part I?
@gamer_since_83 I have zero interest in zombie-like enemies, or anything horror in general. I hate it.
I still have bad memories of that section of the first Uncharted game!
Re: Poll: Will You Buy The Last of Us: Part I?
I'm surprised that only 6% are like me and have never played the series. I can't stand zombies.
Re: PS5 Has Now Sold Over 20 Million Units as Sony Plans to Ramp Up Production
I waited to buy a PS4 until it had been on the market for about ten months because I had no interest in the release lineup. But when I went to buy one, I had absolutely no trouble. The shelves were full. That's obviously not the case now with the PS5. I know that more sales are a good thing for Sony, but as a long time PS gamer, its very frustrating that I'm having so much harder of a time finding one for myself due to much higher demand. Fingers crossed that they do actually increase production and most of us who want one can get it.
Re: PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Will Be Playable Offline, But Will Require Weekly Validation
They answered my question in the final sentence. Sounds like games downloaded via PS+ should work forever, as long as we're members, hopefully.
Re: GreedFall 2: The Dying World Announced for 2024
Greedfall is probably the best attempt at a Bioware game by a smaller studio that I've played. It was a really enjoyable experience. Very much looking forward to seeing more about the sequel.
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on PS Plus Extra or Premium?
I'm never going to sign up for the top tier, period.
As for moving up from the basic to the second level, it will depend on how many games are in the list that I'm interested in. For now, there aren't very many, as I typically have bought the ones I was very interested in as they came out.
Re: Sony Shares First Look at PS Plus Extra, Premium Games
There are some great games in there. And I already own every single one that I'd want to play. So, no need to upgrade for me.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Trailer Coming Soon, Game's Basically Complete
Nothing I've seen or read makes it seem like a FF game whatsoever. I've been playing the series since 1990, and badly want more party-based RPGs, but this looks more like a wacky single character action game.
Re: Rejoice! Final Fantasy 16 in 'Final Stretch' of Development, Says Producer
I have played Final Fantasy since the original on the NES in 1990. I've played every mainline release and enjoyed most of them. But I am not enthused about this one so far. From what I've seen, it doesn't even seem to be a party-based RPG, which is basically throwing the idea of a FF game out the window, and making it into a generic JRPG if thats the case.
Re: March 2022 NPD: PS5 Stock Problems Put Sony in Last Place
At this rate, I'd say that the hope of things getting better this year is pretty much dead. At some point, retailers are going to start hoarding units for the holidays, that's going to be an insane mess, and there are probably going to be none to be found for a long time in early 2023 because of it.
Depressingly, saying that it might be easy to find one a year from now might even be too optimistic....
Re: Poll: As God of War Turns Four, What Would You Rate It Today?
I've never played it. But since its free when you buy a PS5, I'll probably try it out once I'm able to get mine someday.
Re: New Mass Effect 'Now Early in Development', BioWare Confirms
@Porco Honestly, I pay very little attention to online games, so that's all on the extreme periphery of my radar. I do inderstand that they've been hemoraging talent, but all I can do is keep my fingers crossed that it works out.
Bioware is basically the last major developer who's making party based RPGs, and that is my number one preferred video game type. I'm starving for more. So while I'm not by nature an optimistic person, I'm just going to really take a deep breath and count on it working out.
Re: New Mass Effect 'Now Early in Development', BioWare Confirms
@Porco Why are you down on DA4? Inquisition is one of my favorite games of all time.