Americans Earn the Fewest Platinum Trophies for PS5, PS4

Most of those americans are on xbox or pc. I like going for plats but find it exhausting. When I play on PC I hardly care for achievements it's a huge relief, because I could be done and gone with a game.

It’s all those Lego platinums I’ve been getting.

"Maybe americans have far too much freedom." I cant be the only one puzzled by this sentence and why is it trade marked?

My bad, gang. I'll start buying all those jumping turd games to raise the US's plat count.

Me and my paltry number of Plats are not helping the situation. I have failed my country…….☹️

Well, I’m guessing because Americans play more online FPS and GaaS, certainly than the Japanese.

I would have gladly helped out more but unfortunately there's only been 3 My Name is Mayo games 🙁

Fun tends to be the over riding factor when i play the ps5 not digital trophies but hey if it gets ya through your day and all that

Now you listen here Great Britain. If it's so Great, then why isn't there a Greater Britain, hmm?

Jokes aside, I think Japan has more players that are way more hardcore in trophy collecting than other regions.

Sorry Britain but my Platinums represent Wales and Wales alone 193 and aiming for 200 by years end

I only ever go for the platinum if I am having fun with the game and want to increase the playtime.

I never bother with Games that require 100s of hours +multiple playthroughs. Time is a precious commodity.

Imagine caring about trophies and achievements

I’ve only gotten one plat, really don’t care about trophies or achievements.

Im in the US and are a huge trophy hunter. I guess I've contributed more to that graph than most from here, lol.

I will never understand the appeal of Trophies. If it would indicate that you won in a tournament, okay, get it, like those medals for winning tennis tournaments etc. But to show off that I achieved a goal in a game without competition? I play single player games for having fun in that specific moment. Maybe I am an exception, because I have no educational titles etc. on my business cards which is quite uncommon here in Germany.

I'm sure this says something about society. And I'm not the one to figure out what it is.

I’m from the u.k and personally when I play a game I never do it to earn trophies, maybe more because I’m geared towards big rpgs so I just like gameplay, story, and environment. I don’t think I’ve ever once thought “I really want to get the platinum trophy for quirkiest kill’ etc so I personally never understood the whole challenge yourself for faster times and such But again for certain games I.e racing, sports it maybe of value to people. Also very few games I ever play more then once, even things like red dead 2 I played once but I spent so much time in it…the only way I feel some games would be re playable is I wish they had a feature where the second play through was totally different to the first story wise.

I have failed my American brethren. I’m sorry. I shall start buying shovelware games to make up for my prior incompetences.

Say what🤔.haha. Im a american.i l💖ve tropies i got platinum some of them.but whos counting.haha.word up son

@Sakisa imagine spending money on a game and not caring enough to complete it.

@Mr_Gamecube good spot. The average American person buying over 10 games and the average Japanese person buying under six may well factor into who they decide to subsidise hardware for.

We prefer quality over quantity my friends. PSN has become inundated with cheap and easy plats.

@Max_the_German It's not really about competition when it comes to trophies although sometimes it is. It's more of a gaming history to look back on, the crazy feats you took - I look at my first ever platinum that was Infamous in 2009 on PS3 and I'm wondering how I even got around to achieving that. I see how I beat MW2 on veteran also on the PS3 and smile. There's just a satisfaction and sense of accomplishment to it I shouldn't be explaining to a gamer like you when y'know you probably have colleagues also questioning why you bother trying to beat games or playing them at all.

If you've ever compared the region-specific lists of games over the years on PSNProfiles you'll see the same; the American stack almost always has a lower average rarity than the European one. The Japanese one however tends to be highest because of hunters who import it for the extra stack, making a bigger difference against Japan's smaller population.

Only game I can think of that has an American stack that's less rare than the European one is Persona 4 Golden on the Vita.

American here. I generally only go for trophies in my favorite games and even then I only do it if I have nothing else to play. Otherwise I’d rather move onto the next game and play a wider range of titles. Maybe it’s a sign of our short attention spans 😅🥲

American also. I’m a big part of the problem, if problem it is. I have exactly zero plats. No trophies when I was growing up, might be a part of it. Of course I’m not a skilled enough player to trophy hunt, either.

@Northern_munkey Because we tend to trumpet the word as a singular badge (trophy, mayhap?) that others don’t possess. It’s a chest-thumping, identity thing. Remember “freedom fries”?

And increasingly ironic, I’m afraid.

I'm trying to platinum all the resident evils done 4 ,5 ,6 & code Veronica X

@playstation1995 I thought you were French. Word up, son.

@Nancyboy so i guess its like "E.A. sports its in the game." But "Americans have too much freedom" just dosnt quite roll of the tongue the same way..

Stateside here. I honestly typically just platinum the games I really care about (mainly Sony first party). I don’t base buying a game on having to platinum it either way.

Ah yes the four continents: United States, Asia, Japan and Europe.

It seems the rest of us are too irrelevant to even be included in these "global" stats lol

As an American it's rare to see news I feel good about. There may be a lot of terrible stuff about us but at least we weren't scammed into playing the boring parts of games for pointless digital tchotchkes.

@TheArt That is a very nice description of your joy with Trophies, and I legitimately think that now I can better understand the fascination of many gamers for them. Thank you, totally honest.

@Milktastrophe checklists aren’t game content and I’m fine reaching credits without a digital pat on the back saying I did it. Though don’t let me stop you from collecting useless bits and bobs that are just there for padding though.

I only have 7 platinums. It’s been months since I went for my last plat on horizon forbidden west. I’d say 90% of the games I play seem impossibly tedious to platinum and I’m not interested in doing tedious tasks for days on end to get some digital trophy.

And that is their reward, not getting charged more for the PS5

@Northern_munkey It's written to be inflammatory despite the fact that it's nonsensical. Comment count is top priority here apparently. Sad.

@Would_you_kindly I’ve got 2&3 remakes and 7&8 if we pool them together we will just need 1 😃

@GreatAuk i didnt see it as an inflammatory comment but it didnt make any sense..

This explains why Xbox games always have had a much lower completion percentage than all other formats. I could never understand that.

@Fuzzymonkeyfunk would still need resident evil , resident evil 0 , revelations (currently working on that one ) & revelations 2 lol

@Sakisa have you not played many games in the past couple decades? They're all just checklists in fancy skins. Even just beat level 1, beat level 2, ... look at that, a checklist.

More Americans play Xbox then in other regions but PlayStation is still King in the US. I’d guess Americans have more disposable income and move on from games before achieving a platinum.

@Milktastrophe Played many, it’s my primary hobby, if a level is presenting a challenge that’s different than some digital checklist that says ‘collect ALL the silver trinkets that only matter for a trophy!’

I think trophy lists are a waste of time personally when I can just play the game to credits, play the entertaining bits, and move on without doing the boring crap.

Freedom isn't free
It costs folks like you and me

@Juanalf But there's 4 platinums obtainable from Mayonnaise-based games. You just need a Vita to get that second plat for the first game. Not that I have ever done such a thing, obviously!

@nicc83 i like it 🤣 now quick trade mark it before somebody snaps it up..

At the risk of bringing stereotypes into this, Japanese gamers tend to be more obsessive (for lack of a better word) and are often determined to finish a game to 100%. I believe the term is "otaku", but that word has more negative connotations in Japan than it does in the west.

I see a platinum as a bonus for spending extra time in a game I like. I'm not doing plats where there are mp or difficulty trophies and not doing cheap trophies like double dipping on ps4 and 5 versions or the shovelware on the ps store

It’s because we’re too busy paying less for our PS5’s.

@thefourfoldroot1 which would be my assumption but also

The biggest thing here is Americans buy more games but finish them less. Suggesting they also play more multiplayer games. Ala Madden, NBA, etc

Which makes sense.

I've played hundreds of PlayStation games over the last decade and I have zero platinum trophies.

For some reason, the trophy system just never grabbed me. There are always far too many.

Achievements/trophies do nothing for me. I play for the game, once the credits roll, I move on. Unless there is replayability. But I don't look at the lists and try to meet the requirements for the achievements/trophies.

Okay, I lied. I go for the achievements when there are the monthly/weekly rewards.

Well, if I lived in the US I would be single handedly Making America Great Again. But I don't, so I guess they're ******

@Sakisa And what's wrong with that? Don't judge please.

@Sakisa There not bits and bobs, trophies can be a showcase of a person's skills depending on the difficulty of the games. People who judge people who care about trophies only say that because there the boys and the people who go for trophies are the men.

I mean I could judge couldn't I and say something like, well just because you don't care about trophies because your ***** at games doesn't mean other people don't care.

I wish I could say the trophy system did nothing for me, but it really takes a lot of fun out of the game for me.
Just the existence of the fabled platinum trophy makes me anxious about playing a game suboptimal and missing collectables.

I wish there was an option to just turn off trophies so I can go back to sucking at games without any pressure.

@dBackLash You could turn off the Trophy notification.

-Sony has been "Americanising".

-Americans suck at getting trophies.

-Sony has been making plats easier to obtain.

Well this is starting to make sense.

I like trophies and achievements. It gives me extra incentive to go back to games or stick with them a little longer. Getting more out of my purchase. I've just gone back to replay Killzone HD and Resistance 3 in order to obtain their plats, and I may not have done it had I not had some arbitrary challenge unticked.

And more importantly, I enjoyed myself doing it, which is the point of games in the end.

I used to be heavy into trophy collecting until about halfway through persona 5 where I missed one little collectable and realized I'd have to replay the entire game again. That's what broke me and I sat there thinking "you know what...this just isn't fun." All the lists you have to pull up, all the guides you have to follow...it just ruins the experience for me and I don't hunt for trophies unless I can do everything in 1 playthrough and nothing is missable. My time is too precious and my backlog too large for me to waste it all on just 1 game going for a meaningless digital trinket.

Oh and with the existence of games that give you trophies just for buying them, it devalues their worth even more to me.

I play 20+ games a year so I don't have time to care about collecting all the trophies/achievements for games, I'd be fine with just having one trophy for completing the game.

If the USA is playing on average double the number of games a person from Japan is playing, it can explain why we have less platinums. There's no time to platinum everything, we just move on to the next game.

I know personally I don't care about trophies. I like to see my completion stats instead, regardless if that means I earn a trophy or not.

I am pretty sure the population and the average amount of games in ones collection factors heavily into lower averages. Europe overall has almost double the cumulative population of North America and Americans typically have more games that they spend less time of on each due to games generally being cheaper here than in Europe. Gaming can be pretty cheap over here if you have just a little bit of patience and I have many games I just haven't gotten around to playing yet. Thanks exchange rates.

I platinum pretty much everything I play. Can’t speak for any of my other fellow ‘Mericans tho……

I live in America too, just not the USA.

Working my my way for US now going after the Yakuza 7 Platinum

Maybe they realise trophies are naff

Hmm, such interesting data, I'm UK and I'm always trying for the best for games I enjoy imo, why are Americans so slacking?

Not surprising. I've had every single PS console and have a grand total of 2 platinum trophies. I don't care for them at all

@ATaco there are so many games that doesn't give you this stress, not including the cheap Garbage on PSN store with easy platinum, I'm also playing persona 5 royal atm and I'm playing it because of all the praise of how good this game is, I'm enjoying it but I don't care if I miss a few trophies, *big hint, I haven't yet, I'm on almost 70% but don't let that deter you, there will alway be games that deserve your time for a worthwhile platinum 👍👍😊😊

@AlwaysCorrect no comment on that one lolz

@AlwaysCorrect we learned at the feet of masters my friend, at least when it comes to war.

Junk food, on the other hand, yeah that's all us.

I don't even care with trophies.
I played my PS3 and PS4 games without even caring about getting trophies since I'm not a completionist. I played the games at least until finished the storyline then I can move on to other games and I can always revisit my finished games to do the unfinished business (post game contents).
It is not something that I want to show off.

@Milktastrophe Trophies don't usually have anything to do with completion. Most are just random, out of the way tasks disparate from the game's main goals. For example, Skyrim: earn a 1,000 gold bounty in all nine holds. Who would even think to do this if it wasn't an achievement?

Kudos for the USA for not caring about the pointless system anyway. They've earned their lower PS5 price point through this alone!

I contributed to this stat. I only get platinums for games I like enough to go for. That said I got a pretty good amount on my own. 53 to be exact.

I have a feeling it has something to do with multiplayer and competitive culture in the US. In EU and Asia, I can imagine that there's more emphasis on single player, narrative driven titles. For example, Final Fantasy or Dark Souls. In the US, there's probably more of a focus on the likes of Fortnite, Battlefield, CoD, Apex, League, and so on.

I sense a pushsqare poll coming soon...I could care less about trophies. I dont see the appeal. Now if you would get psn credit or something other than "good job" I might try for a plat. or two.

@Mythologue you can't claim 100% completion without getting all the trophies, as that requires doing everything in the game and trophies are a part of the game. The fact that there's an integration with the console OS doesn't make it suddenly not part of the game.

@Sakisa some digital checklists are better than others apparently. Other people do like doing everything a game has to offer and don't consider it a waste of time. I'd say not taking advantage of it all is just a waste of money, so everyone to each their own.

@Anti-Matter it's their choice and I can't tell you what to do, let's end this on good note lol

@Shstrick Same here, only go for plats If the game is very fun

We spend more time on our Xboxes lately. 🙃

@huyi yeah normally I beat the game first and then check the trophy list out. If there's no missables and there's no need for another playthrough (or if it's a short playthrough) then I'll go for it.

Darn i got 20 this year so far and im in the us

Defo interesting data set to interpret from sociological(?) point of view. Without thinking about it, I would offend Americans;)

I have my 1 play for J&D and that's that. I've been playing Fortnite a lot, level 197 overall, and I have a total of ZERO trophies. I played Elden Ring for 300 hours and I may have about 50%.

I played Animal Crossing New Horizons over 500 hours and I don't have a single trophy b/c Nintendo doesn't do trophies. So does that mean nobody has ever finished a Nintendo game b/c they've never gotten a platinum trophy in one? How do you know you've finished a Nintendo game w/o that platinum trophy?🤷

This is my first year in the PS ecosystem since Achievements and Trophies became a thing. I have 15 so far. Folks need to step it up.

Never purposely went for one. To date, I don’t think I have any. Most games get shelved when beaten. NG+ a few, never look at the trophies.

@Crabbitsteve oohhh!!! bit harsh my friend, even in jest! Few bad apples. Probably safe to say American kids DONT want to die by gunshot wound. I would use my words a bit more wisely.

They should have a reward for people that get a certain amount of trophies with in a certain time. Or maybe if you get like 20 trophies in like 2 months you get a free Game to choose from or free psp subscription for like 3 months. You can only the reward maybe like once or twice a year. Just make it interesting in some way

I’m one of those who keeps a 100% trophy list. I literally play games to platinum them, don’t ask my why but when trophies launched in 09 I got instantly hooked.. i only do games I like however, not stupid crap like ‘jumping shoelaces’. Currently doing Legacy Of Thieves and will be doing Demons remake next

It amuses me how so many people love to say they don’t care about trophies because they view them as challenges seperate from the game. Despite the fact they are tasks set by the developers like any other, the only difference being they don’t progress a narrative.

Sony really scored an own goal by calling them trophies and showing a 🏆, instead of Extra Challenge Campaign or something. It let people demote them to the status of Indulgence and stereotype people who go for the challenge as pompous or try hards.

The fact is I often find an interesting trophy campaign even better than a story campaign. And having both is definitely better than having just the one.

@Max_the_German If the game is fun its just a nice extra to get recognition. Demon Souls was one of my favorites of all time and i finally got to Platinum it on PS5 the PS3 version was a nightmare to Platinum with the World tendency and the godawfull droprates of some crafting materials. And its feels like i really completed a game that a nice feeling for someone who loves to complete games.

@Mikey856 I was the same but some games are such a punishment that i can be bothered to complete everything i think the age and time has something to do with it. After boosting the Tombraider reboot multiplayer i got such a distain for the game i could not complete it anymore.

I think it has more to do with the types of games Americans play compared to those in Asia. FPS games are huge here in the US. They have some ridiculous trophies that take huge amounts of hours with the smallest percentage ever achieving that trophy. So naturally they are not going to get the platinum trophy.

For me, trophies is certainly a way to get more from your game purchase and a fully completed, platinum’d game is satisfying. I don’t hunt for plats any more but will happily if the game really engages me.

@pip_muzz agreed! An American who has exactly zero platinum right here!

@MillenialDoomer instead of sociological it could just be explained by data.

The EU has double the unemployment rate of the United States and has for a long time. Since the EU average is playing almost as many games as Americans, if there are more people not working in the EU it can explain why more people can achieve platinum there.

Japan's unemployment rate is low like the United States', but they also play half as many games as the average American which again means they have more time to platinum the few games in which they do play.

That is also supported by the fact that the data (from the links in the article) showed the average Japanese gamer spends double the time playing each game compared to Americans or Europeans.

Additionally we can possibly add that we in the United States just don't care as much about trophies compared to other places.

@Brockybrock if I get a trophy for doing something I enjoy that's fine. But the trophy itself won't motivate me.

In Horizon Zero Dawn I WANTED to find all the metal flowers. I wasn't hunting them down because I was going to get a trophy.

An opposite example would be meowing in Stray. I read there was a trophy for meowing a certain number of times. I played that game with my daughter and after meowing a bunch of times we're both like ok that's enough of that lol

I play games for fun. I'm not gonna do anything I don't want to do just because there's a digital shiny attached.

There are 3 games I ever platinumed: Spider-Man,
Horizon Zero Dawn, The Witness

@huyi
I mean that was my gameplay style, without even caring the trophy system.
Was that really bothering you just because I didn't care with trophy system? 🤨

I’m one of those stereotypical Americans. I’ve only got the platinum for Astro.

For me, I play a game to the credits. I like earning trophies as I go along, but I don’t go out of my way to get the tedious ones.

Yeehaw! I never knew I was secretly an American 🇺🇸🏈🎆🦅

1027 trophies. Zero Platinums (since getting my current PSN account sometime in the PS4 era) 😁

I'm so at peace with that. Give me story content and fun activities, and let me move on to the next thing when I've finished the narrative. There's so many good and great games out there, and a few truly amazing ones. And I won't ever change the way I play games. Live in the moment, experience the worlds that have been lovingly created, care about the characters in them, but don't care about "achievements" for enjoying my hobby.

But for gamers who care less about narratives (cutscene skippers 😱😱😱) or those who focus on mechanics, patterns, and 'beating' games, all power to them, that's old school gaming living on.

must be all the sky high attention spans down there

Lucky me I don’t care about platinum trophies. I never earned one and never will. I have better things to do in my spare time.

Biggest buying force, least commitment... figures. Collecting trophies isn't a worthwhile endeavour anyways, but I do like plating a game when it comes natural through progression and remains fun, otherwise I won't bother.

On behalf of the United States of America, I sincerely apologize. My 15 platinums just haven’t moved the needle. Too bad no one cares about my 7,343 bronze trophies.

This isn't overly a surprise to me as a UK player who primarily plays with US people, the players I play with seem to have this weird mentality to essentially play huge hours, but in as little games as possible, barely 2-3 at a time. Feels like US are the biggest portion of gamers who are trying to secure that one "forever game" mentality than experiencing as much as possible, but that's from my interactions with US players.

@TooManyBrownies that's strange because the data linked above shows the EU and United States have a similar number of games played and hours per title played but Japan players average half as many games and more than double the number of hours played per title compared to everyone else.

@GreatAuk Sure but then if Japan is playing 5 games to US 10 and putting in twice as many hours that could mean Japan are playing 5 and getting 4 platinums where as US is playing 10 but only putting platinum hours into 1 of those games. The data above is very minimal into drawing any actual conclusions unless you literally have game by game reference points, person by person reference points etc.
Like I said though I was just speaking on my own interactions with US players as I generally play a number of Live service games or consistently updated games with around 300 different players regularly. Trying to get them not to play the 1 game they play for 10 hours of the day and get them just to try something different for 1 hour is incredibly difficult for me lol. Let alone when they do try something new its a 20 minute "nah didn't hold my attention" then back to the regular game they play for 10 hours over and over.
Most of the people I play with, I have played roughly 100 games the past 3 years for comparison, the US friends are on 10+ year accounts with barely 50 different games where they have 1-4 platinum games each with around 2000-5000 hours in, the other 46 games have an average playtime of under 1 hour lol. So in theory by statistics they're playing 50 games, but in reality they're playing 4 extensively and 46 tutorials/demo's lol.
Yeah though thats my experience with US players not all US players.

Zero Platinums in however long they've been tracking it, and zero concern over it. Most games include stupid trophies that have little or nothing to do with actually playing the game.

Comparison stats of trophies earned and games completed means little unless those stats are derived from a set list of the same games.

Not a good look.

It’s not the size of the platinums, it’s how you use…oh wait what was the topic again?

Is this a reflection of culture or design philosophy based on the types of games people play in each geography? For example western FPS games often require hundreds of hours online to get all achievements which are preferred in the US. Is this similar in Eastern titles? Or do you tend to get more games where a platinum is earned upon completion?

@aj102404 Same. Haven't paid attention to a single trophy on any platform (PC, PS4/5, Switch, XB), ever.

I guess I'm old school, but I don't care about any of that stuff, nor do I care about unlocking new skins or other aesthetic items.

Unfortunately most Americans around My area even some of my real life friends only care about online shooters on xbox. Ugh lol but I'm happy with my ranking on psn profiles I'm ranked 1,189 in the US of the millions who own a ps so pretty damb happy with my ranking and only a few easy games on mine most are actual triple a games or nice double aa smaller titles

@Max_the_German let me help you understand. It's called wanting to do everything. All the quests in a game collect everything explore everywhere. I'm a 100%er so plats come naturally, like open world rpgs you wanna do everything that's the appeal of trophies. Plus some of them make you do things you wouldn't have thought of beforem plus sometime if makes you play out of your comfort zone. I don't usually go stealthy but some trophies want you too so I get to experience that

@Mythologue exactly tho! That's why there fun! It makes you want to do it! And yes most trophies are for beating the game those your talking about are misc trophies to do random things to make the game more fun to do different things you wouldn't Normally do. That's why most ppl here I see hate trophies it takes you out of your comfort zone. So what

@Elodin they are. Playstation stars program. Look it up

@Markyp playstation stars program they plan to reward us. Look it up

@SerJosh97 Please don't come at me with that. I'm in my 40s and have been a Sony gamer since I was in college 25 years ago. I'm not a foolish child.

I play games slowly and carefully, exploring every corner of the map, talking to every NPC, max leveling my characters and checking off every quest on the list that it gives me. My play throughs are generally about 25% longer than the average completionist.

Here are some examples of games I put a ton of time into and didn't come close to getting the majority of the trophies:

I put 261 hours into AC Valhalla earlier this year and have 49% of the trophies. 63 hours with Biomutant, and 56%. 147 hours with Dragon Quest XI and 57%. 126 hours with FF12 remaster, and 32%. 78 hours with FF 15, and 39%. 95 hours with Immortals: Fenyx Rising and 41%. 130 hours with Persona 5 and 67%. 74 hours with Ghost of Tsushima and 51%. 57 hours with the FF 7 remake and 51%. And the big boy, The Witcher 3 with 370 hours and 49%.

Games where I got over 80% recently are the two Horizons, AC Odyssey, the Mass Effect LE,

@Milktastrophe Inversely, earning all trophies doesn't indicate that you've achieved 100% completion. Skyrim doesn't offer any trophies for the bard's college, for example.

@thefourfoldroot1 There are any number of problems I have with trophies in games, but this comment has just raised another concern for me. Trophies break how people naturally approach games. With a trophy list, they can beeline towards objectives or act in ways that the trophies deem desirable.

For example, one trophy in Skyrim calls to collect 15 daedric artifacts. Yet, this is ordinarily considered evil. An ordinary player might avoid doing so, and through this, effectively be punished through omission and exclusion. If that same player wants to achieve a full trophy list, they then have to oppose how they originally elected to play (as an evil rather than a good character). The same goes for the dark brotherhood questline, which I believe provides a total of three trophies altogether.

If gaming becomes increasingly centered around these trinkets, roleplaying options are going to continue to shrink.

@Mythologue
You’ll find that, commonly, there are trophies for those wanting to be “good” or “bad” equally in games. If someone likes a game well enough they might decide to go the other route in a second playthrough. That is quite normal.

Having challenges set by devs is only a good thing. People can decide to go for those challenges they find fun / rewarding, and ignore the others.

People aren’t being forced to play any particular way, there are merely additional suggested tasks that are completely optional.

@SerJosh97 saw as much, but we don't know the details yet. Its something at.least. it will definitely pull some more into doing trophies

@Anti-Matter what do you play for honestly? I'm not going to judge on your playstyle 🤔🤔 idk I play games I enjoy to completion and I like the trophies that mark my achievements, I'm not going to involve what you want to do as a gamer but I have my own opinions too

@ATaco persona 5 royal is quite straightforward, it's long but I'm enjoying it like I did back in the day with RPGs so I totally agree 👍👍

Some people like trophies some don’t. Can’t we just leave it at that without arguing the merits of everything lol

I can't argue with that lol. I don't care about them whatsoever. I play through some of something then change games and hope that it will hit PC eventually and thankfully Sony is doing that although paying twice is kinda... Crap, at least full price. Considering I own every exclusive on PS5 and I'll rebuy almost all of them again day 1 on PC I don't think a discount or maybe save transfer is a big ask. Heck I'll take $10 off and save transfer lol. Ubi has a cool save xfer system but they should just let you link accounts like MS so it just has the save anywhere the moment you start the game.

That or a better rewards program for earning PSN bucks.