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@blinx01 What about people who have no interest in disc-based media, prefer the convenience of digital games, and who aren't bothered in the slightest about trade-in or purchase price because they aren't poor?

Do you think they'd buy a disc console where the drive would never get any use?

So many questions....

@JapaneseSonic but anyone digital could get it for 60 (or less, in fact) via discounted PSN credit anyway?

@OM1993 can't wait to see how it runs on the switch if PS5 is struggling!

Not that it matters, as performance on that machine seems to pretty much get a free pass from reviewers and players because 'I can play on the toilet' reasons.

Yuk...just watched a bit of a 4K YouTube PS5 'let's play' and my God is it stuttery and janky! Not Cyberpunk launch levels, but on the way there. Seeing that has totally killed my desire to play it for a while, which is definitely a good thing with the state it's in right now.

@frankmcma haha yeah that's often a red flag and your delay in purchasing appears prudent!

wow...was going to buy later on or tomorrow. will put it back on the wishlist and buy for half price later in the year now instead.

thanks for the heads-up pushsquare.

@Max_the_German Yes! Please we get that before the complete version drops for us all next month!

Crafty...I wasn't planning on getting this until it had a decent sale discount - but £26.39 launch sale price (just over £22 for me with discounted PSN credit) is tempting!

@AFCC Only £13.99 - few quid cheaper than I expected tbh. Decent price, will still wait for sale though. Stay strong.

I intend buying this on a 50% sale but I'll be declining this free trial, but only because once I get to the end of it I'll be frustrated at not being able to carry on. By similar logic I wait for weekly TV dramas to conclude before binge watching the lot!

Of course, if you're new to Hitman and just want to try to see if it's your sort of game or not then this is great.

@Playstation not just you, I got mine in 2013 and ended up selling a year or so later. UI was appalling, nearly as bad as the switch and that's saying something.

For me, I just wasn't using it much once the novelty wore off and after I completed Persona 4 Golden there weren't many decent games that appealed to me.

Nice tech in the machine especially the screen, but I realised portable gaming just isn't for me.

@Scratchy_Seal I really enjoy these type of games but never seem to get around to putting serious time into any of them! Sure I'll pick this one up too as it sounds good and I love the ones with persistent upgrades, but will endeavour to stay strong for a sale as I always do for these kind of games.

I have put a lot of time into the Binding Of Isaac and Don't Starve. However, I've hardly played Dead Cells, Slay The Spire, and Enter The Gungeon. Even worse, Children of Morta, Moonlighter, Curse of the Dead Gods all bought and not even started yet lol

Line you, I spend way more time playing indies than the AAA stuff.

@Fyz306903 I pondered on your question and actually no, I don't think even a 50% sale would coax me back. That's said as someone who at one point had this marked as a rare day one purchase and who was scouring the news daily for any more info about it.

I'm just so turned off by everything that happened with it, I've mentally checked out - there are so many other games deserving of my time that Cyberpunk is just not relevant to me anymore.

I'd honestly forgotten this game even existed. Couldn't care less what they do or don't do now.

Moved on from this particular car crash long ago.

@themcnoisy It was the same for me - I tried to get into it, but the thought of playing always greatly exceeded the enjoyment I got from actually doing it! Found it frustrating, overly complicated and just boring. I appreciate that may just be me, but I do enjoy strategy games generally and this left me cold.

@Arugula haha they're two of the games on my (pretty short at the moment) psprices wishlist - I guess I can live in hope!

@Loftimus you can get nearly 15% off using cdkeys PSN credit. Unlikely physical will have that kind of discount at launch.

It's not for me anyway at anywhere near this price so doesn't matter, but just letting you know

Sounds like a Moonlighter copy. Doesn't mean it won't be good though.

@hobbes242 Yeah, that's there!

My favourites tend to be the classics: Medieval Madness, Tales Of The Arabian Nights, Attack From Mars. Junkyard, Fishtales and No Good Gofers are a lot of fun too. All of which are sadly unavailable for purchase now

@Robocod @RevengeFan Yes, there wasn't much left once those tables left the game...I remember it all being announced suddenly as well, had a bit of a scramble to ensure I got the ones I wanted before they went. And as you point out, years on from that it's not like Zen pinball has even exercised their rights on many of them, a shame.

Mercifully, they do all still appear when I boot the game up on my PS5, which I wasn't necessarily expecting. Gameplay seems fine too, at least for the tables I've played.

@Robocod Pinball Arcade was by Farsight Studios, I believe. I probably bought a few more packs than I should have done really

Got them all on sales, but I end up playing my favourite Williams tables most of the time anyway! I guess I'm a sucker for it because I love the real thing, but Zen never really clicked for me when I tried the demo's. Whole thing felt too arcade-like with pop-up screens and the like.

Won't be getting a penny from me - I have a massive set of Pinball Arcade tables (complete with the Williams tables before they were removed due to licensing issues) and it's still awesome. The graphics are ok, but most importantly for a pinball game, the physics and table accuracy is spot-on.

@Bingbongboyo for me, it's like the 'don't meet your heroes' thing. I have fond memories that I'd rather leave there. That includes Impossible Mission though, actually!

'Stay a while...stay..FOREVER!'

Nope. The thought of playing old games is almost always far better than the reality. I put endless hours into my Spectrum and C64 games in the 80s, with super fond memories of a lot of them. But that's where they should stay imo - I've never wanted to get one of the many emulators freely available for those machines. The graphics and gameplay would be embarrassingly bad now, and would also spoil said memories.

I wonder if Guerilla Games manage to get a PS5 patch out by then similar to the amazing God Of War one! We can hope!

At £35 it's a No. Later in the year for £20? Yep, definitely.

AI The Somnium Files is down to £19.99 - awesome game.

Good news, although I do hate this trend of 'announcements about announcements' that seems to have crept into modern PR.

@Exlee300p I do agree. It used to be moans about the value of ps+ games, or the lack of info about PS5 in the run-up to launch, or the supposed weaker hardware compared to MS. Since those arguments are dead in the water now, I guess it has to be something else for some people.

I'd also add that this is not some kind of red or blue pill scenario anyway. If any of us really wants a series X as well as, or even instead of, a PS5 then capitalism reliably informs me that that is actually entirely possible.

Some people are just glass half-empty types. It will always be thus.

Binding Of Isaac, Spiritfarer and Stardew Valley.

@Dezzy70 in terms of TVs, I hear you. I've bought decent Sony televisions for decades, but as things stand I may have to go LG OLED next time.

Re sound bars, some of them have multiple HDMI inputs of their own so you could do it the other way round and run everything into it and then a single HDMI out to the TV . I do that with my Yamaha YSP 2700, which is an amazing bit of kit. Passes through 4K and HDR too, although admittedly not 2.1 signals.

Sony have dropped the ball on their TVs though right now. Real shame.

It's in my psprices wishlist - was tempted at half price sale recently, but staying strong for an even better bargain 👍

I look at my backlog, my wishlist and my long ps+ sub, and I don't really have any issues, beyond not having enough time!

Sony are doing fine.

Escapists 2 GOTY edition for £8 is tempting. Just not sure how fiddly or enjoyable it would be on console?

Not like we're short of games to play, so doesn't bother me particularly. There are plenty of platform exclusive games for the PlayStation too, so it cuts both ways for people who worry about such things.

No different to any other business that makes something consumers don't buy.

@Daleaf haven't got round to downloading FF7R yet...put off a bit by the fact it's only part 1 of however many games they can stretch it to? Don't like incomplete/open endings very much in games.

Did play the original when it first came out though, and it was one of my favourite games of the PS1 gen.

Got the first game for a couple of quid in a sale and the other two were given away on plus. Still haven't played any of them.

One day.

Nah....I'd still take working from home over that, even after covid. Going to an office already feels out of time.

@DragonSlayer1759 anything like VR makes me very very sick...even some first person games do. and this goes back to 90s stuff when 3d gaming first took off, right up to current games.

If you get it as bad as me, then it's a no brainer to avoid it. I don't even miss it, because who wants to give themselves a headache like a hangover just to play a game?! Not me.

Just one of those things.

@Broosh I made a similar vow...I'll see you in a couple of years! 🙂

@Paranoimia With you on that last point. Whilst I'm totally digital on all types of media, I wouldn't even consider buying a game day one on digital. Look at the discounts already available by waiting a few months (and getting a better performing and feature complete game too via patches into the bargain)

All the rest of my digital media, from music, to TV shows, movies and phone apps, comes gratis anyway so I don't begrudge spending a little on gaming.

@themightyant The landscape was very, very different in 2013 when MS tried it compared to today. And to take that changing market forward another gen to, what, 2027ish in all likelihood?

Simply cannot see a future for discs when we all get there. Even today, I haven't used one for years for any form of media and I miss them not one iota.

@Fuzzymonkeyfunk ah that's true, I've not got enough PS5 only stuff to know if it's different for patches native to those games.

@Fuzzymonkeyfunk yeah that's the annoying part for me...he kinda insisted it wouldn't be an issue for the PS5. and yet here we are!

Have never bought off or subscribed to any of these platforms...just get them all in HD or UHD quality off torrents.

So makes no difference to me.

@danlk1ng yep exactly that for me! and tbh, having stopped messing around with discs for any other form of media years ago, there is just no way I'd ever want to go back to that for games! More so in fact in this age of faster loading, swapping etc.

But you can guarantee any topic concerning digital will garner the usual queries from disc users, probably for years to come!

Not really into puzzlers; they either get me frustrated or give me a headache. And doing all that whilst spinning around in a first person viewpoint is guaranteed to give me a headache...so, nah.

Had an issue uploading PS4 saves from my PS5 at one point over the weekend but it's ok again now. Had a short panic though when I saw I had zero game saves on my psn cloud 😲

@OlosNah no, they've been very quiet. Hope we're not looking at an incoming delay!