@Constable_What exactly...must suck to have such ***** internet in this day and age that games take hours to download!
between my 200MB uncapped internet and a big external drive, digital is far far more convenient than physical.
and I love how the physical peasants always exaggerate the price differences and always fail to mention that PSN credit can easily be purchased at anything up to 25% less than its value.
but even disregarding if I had circa 2000 internet speeds and apparently tiny hard drives, there is no way I'd be up and down like a muppet swapping discs as if CDs have just been invented again.
Closing this account now and browsing the articles only in future - too many I'll informed gamers who all seem to be poor, have crap internet and like messing around with discs.
Reply all you want - I won't be reading them hahahahaha
@eddie429 you should be laughing because it will help to give us a cheaper PS5. That's the takeaway from all of this that PS5 buyers should be focussing on.
And apart from that, why slag off MS for the sake of it? You're not buying one, fine.
I don't use discs anymore, for any media, too fiddly and antiquated. The convenience far outweighs everything else for me, so if this leads to the PS5 digital edition being even cheaper than previously expected then happy days!
@OlosNah Series S at £249 was a real shock to me, it's often $=£ conversion here.
With Series X more or less leaked at $499 now, I'd assume that would mean £450 here and Sony couldn't afford to price PS5 at more than that. If they matched, then the PS5 Digital Edition would have be to £400 max, perhaps even £375 or best case £350.
@JJ2 haha yeah, zero chance of delays happening now. And zero chance of the consoles coming in at $600/£600 either. A day to thank Microsoft for a change
@blacklivesmatter If they'd launched last year, it would have been a far weaker console - they wouldn't have had the Zen 2 CPU, the Navi GPU and any SSD woudn't have been anywhere near the crazy speed they've now got.
PC space is always evolving and was always going to exceed console specs sooner or later. It's a different market anyway - I don't believe many people who would buy a next-gen console would opt instead for what would be a far more expensive PC set-up (with the new cards you're referring to, anyway).
I used to be a PC game but just CBA with it these days, and that's even with all the piracy making games effectively free if you know what you're doing and where to look. Much prefer my console gaming.
Can't see a Japanese company launching in the US before their own market.
This talk of delays is for the birds. The media are getting so short of news and so wound up in their own bubbles that this kind of article is inevitable. And apart from anything else it guarantees loads of clicks, even with the obligatory question mark at the end of the shock headline.
@InvaderJim because 'Late 2020' is the correct description for a November launch in the UK, and indeed in most of the world. What does 'holiday 2020' mean here in the UK when we don't have a November holiday, or any holidays between now and Xmas? It would just confuse the matter even more, although that's getting harder to do now with how confusing these pre-launches already are!
@gmxs Easy to buy the psn credit at up to 25% discount though... pretty much wipes out any difference most of the time. Plus, I could pick out games that are far cheaper on PSN if I wanted to.
Anyway, the convenience of not messing around swapping discs like a muppet for the next seven or eight years would be worth it to me anyway, whatever the price difference! PS5 digital edition all the way for me come November!
My library of games (prefer that to 'backlog' or 'pile of shame'!) is not too bad at the moment, and as I've never played the first Tomb Raider reboot I'll grab that for the silly £2.39 it's down to, but that's it for me this time around.
The easiest route to ensure you get the highest quality audio and avoid audio lag is to do it 'the other way around' - that is, get a decent soundbar or receiver with multiple HDMI inputs that can handle all the raw audio and also pass through 4K HDR video signals to the TV-out.
I have a Yamaha YSP-2700, it has 3 HDMI inputs that you can plug your 4K or other devices and then a single HDMI output to the TV.
You can still use ARC as well if you have other stuff connected to the TV, but I currently don't need it. Toslink, or optical audio, is pretty much done now imo. It'd be like asking for SCART sockets again!
@Rhaoulos Nintendo technology and build quality is not exactly great, so I'm pretty confident PS5 haptic will be far superior to whatever is in the switch.
@SamMR thanks! So long as the puzzles aren't super obscure or annoying then yeah it sounds good. I love the look of the graphics style when I've seen clips on YouTube, the way the scale constantly changes looks cool.
@WallyWest Hitman 2 only has Hitman 1 levels if you already own some form of Hitman 1 in the first place! Still good though, because you get to incorporate them into one package with the improved engine and gameplay additions. I imagine 3 will let you do the same if you already own 1 and/or 2. IO are one of the good guys.
@deSade57 who pays full price on digital stores though?? easy to get discounted PSN credit, and I'm sure most digital buyers do so...I hunt around and with patience it's possible to stock up on credit with up to 25% off. That makes a £55 PSN game £41. I accept the point about trading in, but not the one about comparing headline prices.
No way I'm going to ***** around swapping discs in this day and age!
The whole cross-gen phase is always the worst part about a new generation. Just going to have to put up with this at launch and probably next year as well.
Who the heck is still buying GTA V??? No wonder Rockstar are in no hurry at all to develop another GTA, and are quite happy to bring it out yet again on another gen next year.
@theheadofabroom I agree with your prices, except I can't see series x being $600, I think it'll come in at 500 along with PS5, then digital PS5 at 400 and series s at 300.
@nessisonett I only got it recently because I thought it looked too weird and..well..boring when it came out, but pleased to say that after picking it up for £18 in recent sale I'm loving it! I can understand it wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea though.
We shouldn't have to wait too much longer for price. If you work backwards, could they realistically go into October without having revealed the price? I don't think so. I would say middle of September is the latest they could dare to go to!
So three or so weeks to wait at most.....hopefully!
@Kefka2589 I was thinking along those line too, but I just don't think I could wait until the 'full' upgrade of Cyberpunk at some point next year...I'd just end up playing it on my Pro, and I feel that this is a next gen game really!
Looks amazing, I'm expecting IO to give us all a free upgrade on Hitman 1 and 2 for PS5 next year too...just because they're one of the decent devs and you only have to look at the upgrades they did for PS4 Pro and then the bump in detail and features they introduced for the legacy thing. Can't wait for this one.
@themcnoisy I don't think they'll want to go over £500 unless they're certain that MS is (hence this price non-reveal silliness) so I'm going for £499 and £429 for digital edition, possibly even £399.
IMO It's gonna be £499, and £399 for digital edition. They'll take that bigger hit because they can recoup that over the years in digital purchases, and also because they need to make the price difference enticing enough, and it's a positive for them to be able to say those keywords 'from £399' in all their advertising.
@MarcG420 Yeah, bit of a weird flex. If he/she is grateful that some of us are lucky enough to have the money to spend and choose to do so then that's absolutely fine with me.
@majklpetr Indeed. It will simply encourage more people to do what I generally do with games now, and delay their purchase in the first place and wait for the fairly swift sale reductions on PSN and/or the inevitable 'complete' edition. Ergo, it'll lose them money in the long run.
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Re: Poll: How Much Are You Willing to Pay for PS5?
@Constable_What exactly...must suck to have such ***** internet in this day and age that games take hours to download!
between my 200MB uncapped internet and a big external drive, digital is far far more convenient than physical.
and I love how the physical peasants always exaggerate the price differences and always fail to mention that PSN credit can easily be purchased at anything up to 25% less than its value.
but even disregarding if I had circa 2000 internet speeds and apparently tiny hard drives, there is no way I'd be up and down like a muppet swapping discs as if CDs have just been invented again.
Closing this account now and browsing the articles only in future - too many I'll informed gamers who all seem to be poor, have crap internet and like messing around with discs.
Reply all you want - I won't be reading them hahahahaha
Re: Reaction: PS5 Price Under Scrutiny After Disruptive Xbox Series S Reveal
@eddie429 you should be laughing because it will help to give us a cheaper PS5. That's the takeaway from all of this that PS5 buyers should be focussing on.
And apart from that, why slag off MS for the sake of it? You're not buying one, fine.
Re: Reaction: PS5 Price Under Scrutiny After Disruptive Xbox Series S Reveal
I don't use discs anymore, for any media, too fiddly and antiquated. The convenience far outweighs everything else for me, so if this leads to the PS5 digital edition being even cheaper than previously expected then happy days!
Re: Talking Point: Could PS5 Be Delayed?
@OlosNah Series S at £249 was a real shock to me, it's often $=£ conversion here.
With Series X more or less leaked at $499 now, I'd assume that would mean £450 here and Sony couldn't afford to price PS5 at more than that. If they matched, then the PS5 Digital Edition would have be to £400 max, perhaps even £375 or best case £350.
Super value, all of them, to be honest.
Re: Talking Point: Could PS5 Be Delayed?
@JJ2 haha yeah, zero chance of delays happening now. And zero chance of the consoles coming in at $600/£600 either. A day to thank Microsoft for a change
Re: Talking Point: Could PS5 Be Delayed?
@blacklivesmatter If they'd launched last year, it would have been a far weaker console - they wouldn't have had the Zen 2 CPU, the Navi GPU and any SSD woudn't have been anywhere near the crazy speed they've now got.
PC space is always evolving and was always going to exceed console specs sooner or later. It's a different market anyway - I don't believe many people who would buy a next-gen console would opt instead for what would be a far more expensive PC set-up (with the new cards you're referring to, anyway).
I used to be a PC game but just CBA with it these days, and that's even with all the piracy making games effectively free if you know what you're doing and where to look. Much prefer my console gaming.
Re: Talking Point: Could PS5 Be Delayed?
Can't see a Japanese company launching in the US before their own market.
This talk of delays is for the birds. The media are getting so short of news and so wound up in their own bubbles that this kind of article is inevitable. And apart from anything else it guarantees loads of clicks, even with the obligatory question mark at the end of the shock headline.
Re: PlayStation Launches New PS5 Game Pages on Official Website
@InvaderJim because 'Late 2020' is the correct description for a November launch in the UK, and indeed in most of the world. What does 'holiday 2020' mean here in the UK when we don't have a November holiday, or any holidays between now and Xmas? It would just confuse the matter even more, although that's getting harder to do now with how confusing these pre-launches already are!
Re: Wasteland 3 - Fallout Meets XCOM in This Engrossing But Slightly Buggy RPG
@Number09 yeah I don't need this for anywhere near that price!
Will wait a few months and get it for half or something close to that.
Re: PlayStation Store Essential Picks Sale Discounts Some of PS4's Best Games
@gmxs Easy to buy the psn credit at up to 25% discount though... pretty much wipes out any difference most of the time. Plus, I could pick out games that are far cheaper on PSN if I wanted to.
Anyway, the convenience of not messing around swapping discs like a muppet for the next seven or eight years would be worth it to me anyway, whatever the price difference! PS5 digital edition all the way for me come November!
Re: PlayStation Store Essential Picks Sale Discounts Some of PS4's Best Games
My library of games (prefer that to 'backlog' or 'pile of shame'!) is not too bad at the moment, and as I've never played the first Tomb Raider reboot I'll grab that for the silly £2.39 it's down to, but that's it for me this time around.
Re: PS5 Doesn't Have an Optical Audio Port
The easiest route to ensure you get the highest quality audio and avoid audio lag is to do it 'the other way around' - that is, get a decent soundbar or receiver with multiple HDMI inputs that can handle all the raw audio and also pass through 4K HDR video signals to the TV-out.
I have a Yamaha YSP-2700, it has 3 HDMI inputs that you can plug your 4K or other devices and then a single HDMI output to the TV.
You can still use ARC as well if you have other stuff connected to the TV, but I currently don't need it. Toslink, or optical audio, is pretty much done now imo. It'd be like asking for SCART sockets again!
Re: PS5 Won't Play PS3, PS2, or PS1 Games
Pre-order for the pre-order duly cancelled.
Re: PS5 Can Generate Haptic Feedback from Sound Effects
@Rhaoulos Nintendo technology and build quality is not exactly great, so I'm pretty confident PS5 haptic will be far superior to whatever is in the switch.
Re: Mini Review: The Last Campfire - Cosy Puzzles from Hello Games
Yeah, as above comment says, this just strikes me as a 'whatever' game. Wouldn't pay a penny for it, but if it ever comes to PS+ I might download it.
Re: PS5 Release Date: When Is PlayStation 5 Coming Out?
The way things are going, I think perhaps the price will be released after the console.
Re: First Impressions: Bus Simulator 21 Is a Sharper, Snazzier Public Transport Sim
So the UK buses....have they bothered to make them right hand drive?
Re: Interview: DIRT 5 Devs on Building One of PS5's First Racers
hate the dirt racing games. F1 yes, Dirt Rally yes. This crap...no, not even on PS5.
Re: Little Nightmares II Comes to PS4 in February, PS5 Version Confirmed
@SamMR thanks! So long as the puzzles aren't super obscure or annoying then yeah it sounds good. I love the look of the graphics style when I've seen clips on YouTube, the way the scale constantly changes looks cool.
Re: Little Nightmares II Comes to PS4 in February, PS5 Version Confirmed
First one has 75% off at the moment in PSN...never played it, few years old now, still worth getting?
Re: Hitman 3 Dated for 20th January, Free Digital PS5 Upgrade Available
@WallyWest that sounds great! I didn't think they were my type of game but once I got into them they're one of my favourite series from this gen
Re: Hitman 3 Dated for 20th January, Free Digital PS5 Upgrade Available
@WallyWest Hitman 2 only has Hitman 1 levels if you already own some form of Hitman 1 in the first place! Still good though, because you get to incorporate them into one package with the improved engine and gameplay additions. I imagine 3 will let you do the same if you already own 1 and/or 2. IO are one of the good guys.
Re: PS Plus September 2020 PS4 Games Announced
@J_Warrior Sorry not sorry for expressing an opinion. Enjoy your ***** games! [Ignored]
Re: Explaining Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War's PS4 to PS5 Upgrade Transition
There's a far simpler and more straightforward option. Don't buy this ***** at all.
Re: Activision Bumping PS5 Price Points Beginning with Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War
Won't be paying any more....I'll just wait that little bit longer to get it for the price I want.
Re: Hello Games' The Last Campfire PS4 Release Confirmed for Tomorrow
I'll come back in 2 years time when it's playable.
It had to be said!!
Re: PS Plus September 2020 PS4 Games Announced
@stinkyx admittedly I'm a Tekken fan since 1994 so I accept I'm biased, and I accept they're very different. Still won't download either of these 🙂
Re: PS Plus September 2020 PS4 Games Announced
Complete trash. One is a couple years past its hype, the other is a ***** version of Tekken.
At least I can get back to the backlog!
Re: Interview: Talking Train Sim World 2 with Dovetail Games
Nothing to say about PS5 support/patches, plenty to say about DLC.
Thanks for clearing up where the priorities of this company are!
Re: PS5 Price and Release Date Rumour Is Making Headlines in Japan
@deSade57 Yeah fair enough...and I know, guilty as charged - I'm a lazy entitled gamer these days
Re: PS5 Price and Release Date Rumour Is Making Headlines in Japan
@deSade57 who pays full price on digital stores though?? easy to get discounted PSN credit, and I'm sure most digital buyers do so...I hunt around and with patience it's possible to stock up on credit with up to 25% off. That makes a £55 PSN game £41. I accept the point about trading in, but not the one about comparing headline prices.
No way I'm going to ***** around swapping discs in this day and age!
Re: Mini Review: Hypnospace Outlaw - A Literal Point and Click Adventure
Was fun on pc, but more than almost any game it needs a mouse and keyboard. can't even imagine playing it with a controller.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War Free PS5 Upgrade Might Be Locked Behind More Expensive Versions
The whole cross-gen phase is always the worst part about a new generation. Just going to have to put up with this at launch and probably next year as well.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Spider-Man PS4 Back in Top 10, PGA Tour 2K21 Almost a Hole in One
Who the heck is still buying GTA V??? No wonder Rockstar are in no hurry at all to develop another GTA, and are quite happy to bring it out yet again on another gen next year.
Re: Spiritfarer - Feel-Good Management Sim Is a Relaxing Cruise
It's good to see more games like this, not unreasonably prices either.
Re: Sony Stresses, One More Time, That PS5 Will Release This Year
@Rugga great, enjoy your three or four year wait for a not-even-certain-it'll-ever-exist console whilst the rest of the world enjoys next gen.
Re: Sony Stresses, One More Time, That PS5 Will Release This Year
@theheadofabroom I agree with your prices, except I can't see series x being $600, I think it'll come in at 500 along with PS5, then digital PS5 at 400 and series s at 300.
Re: Sony Stresses, One More Time, That PS5 Will Release This Year
@nessisonett I only got it recently because I thought it looked too weird and..well..boring when it came out, but pleased to say that after picking it up for £18 in recent sale I'm loving it! I can understand it wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea though.
Re: Sony Stresses, One More Time, That PS5 Will Release This Year
We shouldn't have to wait too much longer for price. If you work backwards, could they realistically go into October without having revealed the price? I don't think so. I would say middle of September is the latest they could dare to go to!
So three or so weeks to wait at most.....hopefully!
Re: PS5 Launch Window Has the 'Best Line-Up We've Ever Seen in the History of PlayStation'
@Kefka2589 I was thinking along those line too, but I just don't think I could wait until the 'full' upgrade of Cyberpunk at some point next year...I'd just end up playing it on my Pro, and I feel that this is a next gen game really!
Re: Hitman 3 Adds Murder Mystery in English Countryside to Level Line-Up
Looks amazing, I'm expecting IO to give us all a free upgrade on Hitman 1 and 2 for PS5 next year too...just because they're one of the decent devs and you only have to look at the upgrades they did for PS4 Pro and then the bump in detail and features they introduced for the legacy thing. Can't wait for this one.
Re: New PS5 Advert Officially Revealed
@themcnoisy I don't think they'll want to go over £500 unless they're certain that MS is (hence this price non-reveal silliness) so I'm going for £499 and £429 for digital edition, possibly even £399.
Re: PS5 Launch Is a 'Massive Challenge on Every Front'
IMO It's gonna be £499, and £399 for digital edition. They'll take that bigger hit because they can recoup that over the years in digital purchases, and also because they need to make the price difference enticing enough, and it's a positive for them to be able to say those keywords 'from £399' in all their advertising.
Re: PS5 Launch Window Has the 'Best Line-Up We've Ever Seen in the History of PlayStation'
@Kefka2589 Yep, that resolution bump on Cyberpunk and increased detail or whatever is enough for me on Day 1!
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales Will Use PS5 to Convey Spider-Sense
If they include the rumoured remaster of the original game with this then I might buy it. If not, hard no.
Re: Sony to Share More PS5 News and Info in the Coming Weeks
@MarcG420 Yeah, bit of a weird flex. If he/she is grateful that some of us are lucky enough to have the money to spend and choose to do so then that's absolutely fine with me.
Re: Sony to Share More PS5 News and Info in the Coming Weeks
Not another announcement about a possible announcement. Sick and tired of it now. Yes I'm buying on day one regardless, but it's just frustrating now.
Re: 505 Games Attempts to Explain Control's PS5 Upgrade Scandal
@majklpetr Indeed. It will simply encourage more people to do what I generally do with games now, and delay their purchase in the first place and wait for the fairly swift sale reductions on PSN and/or the inevitable 'complete' edition. Ergo, it'll lose them money in the long run.
Re: PlayStation Store Games Under £16/$20 Sale Has Excellent PS4 Deals
Life is Strange: Before The Storm Complete for £2.79!
Re: Geocities Simulator Hypnospace Outlaw Browses PS4 from 27th August
Lot of typing in this game...not quite sure how this will work without a keyboard? But if they've solved this, then I can highly recommend.