PS5 Price and Release Date Rumour Is Making Headlines in Japan

I believe some aspects are correct but overall fake.

No way the vertical stand is priced, it will likely include in the box given how it looks different between the physical and digital versions

It's fake. PS5 launch is WW

$399 feels far too cheap. Even for a discless console.

@Milt could be the replacement cost. I could see it being an extra as well.

My big thing is why the digital only is 100 cheaper. Seems odd that the disc drive would drive up the price that much

Seems a big price difference for the digital vs physical

Honestly? Leak or just really good educated guess, I am expecting most of that to be pretty darn accurate actually.

£100 for a 4k blu ray player is there or there abouts the cost of a standalone so would've expected the reduction to be about £50-60.

The prices are roughly what a new console will cost so this could be both fake and correct at the same time.

Still, nothing is confirmed until Sony says it is.

I would be amazed if the console costs £349/£449. Add £100 to each seems more likely. Most of the prices seem too low, the amount they have been banging on about the power and expensive components. Dualsense for £54.99 with all its haptics and immersions sensors, nah can't see it being less than £70.

With a $100 USD price difference, it's like they aren't even trying to hide the effort to kill physical media. ☹️

Also, to carry on my cynicism, no way is Miles Morales £29.99. Concrete Genie for comparison is £24.99 on psn store. Think next gen spider man with all the bells and whistles will be £5 more? No chance. £39.99 minimum.

@RedShirtRod @Robinsad I recall Andrew House in a interview saying that it cost the company over a billion dollars just to have a disc drive in the PS4. I may be wrong on that quote (possibly HD) but if there's more digital versions being sold then there's less need for disc drive orders which lowers costs. If they incentivise the customer to invest in the digital version of the PS5 they have profit increases elsewhere like not having to distribute as many boxed/disc versions of their games.

I doubt it's real, because I don't think there is such a thing as a ''vertical stand''. The stand can be used to position the console both vertically, as well as horizontally. This is the reason why the stand for the disc version is thicker and more curved on one side, because it has to support the curved underside of the console. The digital version has a thin (more or less) symmetrical stand, because the underside (in horizontal position) is pretty much symmetrical as well.

Each console comes with one stand that allows you to place it vertically or horizontally. I feel that there's a lot of misunderstanding about this. But hey, it makes it easier to spot fake leaks.

This isn't a leak this is just someone's educated guess lol. I'm sure we'll have our information soon.

@RedShirtRod See my post above for the stand. I'm certain they'll offer a replacement stand, but it won't be called ''vertical stand'', because there's no such thing as a vertical stand.

And yes, you're right, the disc drive isn't that expensive. Digital Foundry estimated that Sony can cut (at most) around $20-30 by removing the disc drive. So a difference of $50 makes more sense to me. Unless they want to push people aggressively towards digital.

@ShogunRok I do think that Spider-Man: Miles Morales will be a $40 title. They've actively compared it to Lost Legacy (i.e. it's going to be a smaller title compared to Spider-Man (2018)). And we know that a Spider-Man 2 is inevitable as well. I think it would be weird if MM was a $60 title. Sony has been quite good with pricing this generation, they've launched a lot of titles at $40, so this makes sense to me.

@Octane what do you mean by there's no such thing as a vertical stand. Sony themselves sell a "vertical stand" for the ps4 and its called......vertical stand

August 25. Less than 3 months until launch (unless Sony is going December for the first time EVER). No confirmed pricing. No confirmed release. The "best launch line-up" in history...but nothing that looks better than Killzone and Knack that I've seen so far.

Sony needs to show us something.

Also will sony really release it s week in Japan before the west? I though a global same day launch would be standard

It's believable but looks fake.

@redd214 Of course, but you can stand the PS4 without any stand at all. The PS5 requires a stand, in either position. And why sell two separate stands that are both round-shaped, whilst making the ''vertical'' stand for the disc version oddly shaped as if it can also stand the system horizontally. So in practice they're selling four different stands (that'll avoid any confusion for sure). And on top of that you're telling me they're shipping it with a ''horizontal'' stand, even though all the marketing material so far has shown the system vertically?

I'll make up those $100 with 3 rentals.

If these prices are real it is day 1 for sure (well if I can get one at launch)

@Octane hahaa relax man, I was joking with you lol

@redd214 I know, but many people don't know that. I'll put a smiley face in the post to acknowledge it!

I hope that physical console and games don't get phased out, because if they do and all you have is digital, the consumer is not paying for the product but for the license to play the game and the company can remove the game from the online store without any notice... That sucks because digital media is really fragile and if you don't have a good Internet connection or you get blocked from your account (you/the players) is done for.

@RedShirtRod perhaps trying to push more and more people towards digital? Sony is making big bucks on the PS Store. Maybe a way to force a higher number of people to adopt digital but in a "discreet" way

If it’s right I’d be happy with that!

I would like to get the pulse 3D headset but $160 was more than I thought it would be.

@Kefka2589 exactly. Digital is for unbelievable deals that physical copies could never match. Or, that game that will be an important part of my collection. For single player games, like Uncharted franchise, once you're done... You're done. Might as well trade it for another game you're only gonna play for a couple of times as well.

It's like renting or owning a movie. Some movies I want to have in my collection. Others, I just wanna see it once and probably never again.

I am pretty sure Sony will want to launch the console before the Thanksgiving Holiday here in the U.S. All previous Playstations have launched before the holidays.

Not sure I’m convinced on this. The difference in price between the Physical and Digital Editions is in the 100 $, £, € range, but looking at the Japanese’s ¥ difference (¥49980 vs ¥44980), that’s only about a $50 difference so doesn’t seem right to me. If that’s wrong, I’m guessing the rest is too.

A global launch should be the norm by 1995, let alone 2020.

Can't say I'm surprised with that $40 price for Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales but only because I have a weird feeling that's gonna be an expansion type game rather than an actual sequel.

$40 for miles Morales is reasonable. But the price tag for the controller scares me.

It's believable. Miles Morales had better not be full priced since it's a shorter game than the last.

If it's true then that's pretty damn competitive, all things considered. Having a quality, headline game like Miles Morales available for £30 would be amazing value for a "first PS5 game" to go along with the Astro Bot freebie. If you went all digital you could get the new console (including controller) and 2 games for under £400. Not bad.

But - we'll see if it's true.

@Kefka2589 Exactly. Not quite as good a deal, but I bought Ghost of Tsushima for £50, and traded it in to GAME (ex Electronics Boutique) for £27 when finished. Crazy to pay £55 from the PS store when it effectively cost me just £23 to play the physical version!

@Salohcin up it by 50 I think

"Again, while not outside the realms of possibility, it would be unexpected given its position as one of the console's heavy hitters"

It would be a little weird for Sony to market Miles Morales as an "Uncharted Lost Legacy" kind of game and then proceed to charge full price for it.

Why is it called Blu-Ray console? Is it not 4K?

@jsw-8
It's not only about what the tech is worth. Do you really think the digital version would sell great if for $50 more you'd get the disc based version? The $100 difference seems right to me from a business viewpoint. Besides I don't think many people will see the disc based version as being $100 more expensive, but the digital version being $100 cheaper.

Hopefully the console prices are correct. More important I hope an announcement form Sony comes soon so these stories can stop.

@GilbertXI Why does that price scare you? Thats the same MSRP as the PS4 controllers.

@Octane Examining the pictures of the PS5 in vertical and horizontal positions, its pretty clear that it must be a different stand. Horizontally it needs an almost flat convex shape, where as vertically it needs a tight book-end. The question is, which one are they going to include in the box? Because they must include at least one.

@Lyonjak I think that is a reasonable price for a bite-sized Spider-Man game. Any more and I don't think it would sell very well (I know I certainly wouldn't buy it at a higher price). Keep in mind that it's not a full AAA sized game like the original, it's more like Uncharted Lost Legacy or inFamous First Light with some graphical tweaks.

@deSade57 who pays full price on digital stores though?? easy to get discounted PSN credit, and I'm sure most digital buyers do so...I hunt around and with patience it's possible to stock up on credit with up to 25% off. That makes a £55 PSN game £41. I accept the point about trading in, but not the one about comparing headline prices.

No way I'm going to ***** around swapping discs in this day and age!

@Porkfiend I don't agree that there's no point in comparing headline prices because you can get discounts in the store - you can get discounts on physical copies too after all.

I feel your pain about having to open a case and press eject on your console though, it's a travesty we are still expected to move in this day and age!!

@deSade57 Yeah fair enough...and I know, guilty as charged - I'm a lazy entitled gamer these days

PS4 pro is still officially £349, so just can't see it that PS5 will launch at that price even without the disk drive. and there's no way in hell i am paying an extra £100 for £25's worth of additional hardware.. the difference between the two shouldn't be anywhere near that much.

@thedevilsjester Excuse my poor Paint skills:

I think this is what we're looking at. As you can see, the stand has a wide slit (blue arrow) which holds the PS5 in the vertical position. It sits on the blue area in the drawing. As you can see, even though both consoles are vertical in the lower right image, they have differently shaped stands. This is because the disc PS5 has more curved ''underside'' (upper right image), and the stand needs to accommodate for that. In the horizontal position is lays on top of the area marked in red. However, you need to rotate the stand 90 degrees when you place the console horizontally.

Just for reference, here's a horizontal PS5 on its stand. It has the same round stand, even the edges have the same slope.

@thedevilsjester I didn't like that cost either. I don't know what I was expecting, I'm a fool.

@Octane You make a compelling argument though I think that the disc drive is going to require a larger slope than we can see on the photos of the stand with the PS5 vertical. It could be that its a perspective trick and it's entirely as you outline. In which case I would agree with your original statement that its fake because there is no such thing as a "vertical" stand, it would just be a stand, even if it was sold as a replacement unit.

@GilbertXI Yeah $59 for a controller is expensive. I have a working theory; that the losses (or at best, lack of profit) from a new console will balance out from the extra cost of the accessories.

@thedevilsjester I do think it's a bit of a perspective trick. This is all pure speculation of course, but I expect that the bulky part quickly narrows down towards the back. Because remember, this thing is probably bigger than we're all thinking. The disc drive would only reach about halfway, and even then there's still unnecessary bulk around the disc slot. So the backside could be similar to the digital console.

I just don't see why they would make the ''vertical stands'' completely different if they're not being used to hold the console horizontally as well. They'd have to produce and sell four different stands, all with equal diameter and slope, but all slightly different. From a product design perspective this would be terrible, since there is an easy way to allow one stand to do the job of two. And considering the shapes also match with this concept, I don't see any reason to believe otherwise. I'll eat my hat if none of this is true lol.

@Octane I fully expect the digital version of the console to die off fairly quickly. I see it as one of those limited consoles (like the HDD-less/wired Xbox 360, or the 20 GB PS3) that only really served to reduce sticker shock in a new generation by offering a lower cost (though hobbled) version out of the gate, and once the generation settled, became redundant. If that were the case they would have fewer SKU's to support long term.

You do make a good point that if they could manage it with 1 stand, its better for everyone (including them). Easier to manufacture, less shelf space, and less consumer confusion (oh I bought the digital vertical stand when I wanted the disc'ed horizontal stand!)

these would be acceptable prices for me but i think its fake as the stand is needed its not optional unless the console will sit unevenly and rock if you tried to put a disk in etc

@thedevilsjester more than 50% of total software sales are now digital... so i have a difficult time believing this argument. the digital ps5 will likely sell very well and could account for more than half of total hardware sales if i had to guess. most gamers are casual and do not have a need for ps4 b/c or physical game collections. they will see the digital hardware marked at $100 cheaper and flock to it without hesitation.

@thedevilsjester that makes sense. But how do you explain the $200 Xbox elite controller?

@Porco The disc-based PS5 can also play digital titles. The disc-less version is hobbled. With it you can only play digital titles. You cannot rent (other than PSNow), trade or borrow titles, and you are stuck with the (sometimes outrageous prices) of the digital store-front. With the disc-based version you can have all of that digital goodness you want. Utilize the flash sales on some titles AND still get all the benefits of disc version. Even going with the 50% digital sales that you said, how many of those sales are to people that only buy digital? I doubt its very many (there are some, certainly).

@GilbertXI not certain what you mean, are they selling that controller at a loss?

100% fake, no way Japan will get the console first.
Also, the "vertical stand" doesn't exist. The one included with the PS5 is made to have both vertical and horizontal uses.

@thedevilsjester well, i agree with your sentiments towards the value of physical media. i have a sizable ps3 and ps4 game collection on my shelf and would never sell it off. but this isn't about what you or i prefer — this is about market trends and the direction the industry is going in. as much as a i hate a digital only future, it is inevitable. i would be shocked to my core if ps6 has an optical drive or physical media of any kind. we are in the final stretch of the transition to digital media and sony will do everything it can to encourage it. i mean, why wouldn't they? it just means more money in their pocket in cutting out the brick and mortar retailers. there is literally no down side from their point of view. can physical media survive alongside digital distribution? yes, but the clock is ticking and it won't last forever.

So €439 for me on launch day.
I like it if its not a mountain of salt ofcourse.

If real then spot on on prices I think. I 'NEED' a PS5(disc version) + another controller + the controller base thingy + Remote + stand(going to have it up) +...well the games I probably don't need any yet because I still got 6/7 PS4 big games to 'STILL' Play

@Kefka2589 @Oliveira_r
Ooo, ooo, include me in that fight fellas! Physical until the end! ✊

My reason is however, that I don't trust publishers and platform holders. I buy my games and keep my games FOREVER. So if I want to play them again in 20 years when the platform holder no longer supports the platform, or the publishers licence has long expired, they can't stop me.

I can understand that physical media is dying out, and for good reason. You can literally download a game faster than copying from a disc, so it's completely reasonable for the disc version to be expensive relative to the other version. But I'd still prefer a console that is backwards compatible with the PS4. There's no reason in fact why it couldn't play PS4 games with higher frame rates/resolutions either, if the games were already designed to be "PS4 Pro enhanced". I also don't think it's unreasonable for some developers to add a patch for enhanced gameplay for aforementioned scenario either.

@Porco I think you miss the point that the disc based PS5 still does digital titles as well. There is no benefit to the disc-less version outside of an initial cost reduction, and plenty of downsides (locked in to digital, locked in to Sonys store, cannot rent, borrow, or buy used titles, cannot play PS4 disc titles and potentially PS3/2/1 disc titles if full BC becomes a thing like many hope). It is a hobbled version by any definition, and as much as people like digital, I doubt that there is a large enough market of people that want to be locked in to a digital only console once prices mellow and there isn't a large gap between the disc and disc-less version. The PS6 and what choices they will make there or beyond is largely irrelevant.

@thedevilsjester wait, you are defending the pros from the consumer level again. i already agreed with you on that. you are failing to look at this issue from the corporate level and why a megacorp like sony, nintendo and microsoft would prefer digital only. like i said, it means more money for the platform holders if digital distirbution becomes the only option. not to mention they will also cut out used game sales if physical media is extinct — again, meaning more money in their pockets.

i think you are out of touch with the realities of digital distribution. look no further than the pc gaming sphere where the entire industry has already converted to 100% digital. then look at bluray and ultra bluray sales versus streaming services like netflix and disney+. those services have taken over the industry now and only a tiny subsect of the pie concerns physical sales of movies. heck, samsung even pulled out of the bluray player market as it wasnt profitable enough for them. just a matter of time before major retailers pull out completely and stop selling physical movies. there will always be a collector's market out there for physical media no doubt, but unfortunately it won't be large enough to warrant the production of physical media on a large scale. who knows, maybe with ps6 sony will offer an external optical drive for those who want it and there will be a "limited run" of physical discs where people can get them while they last. but we all know what will happen with that scenario... you get greedy ebay sellers who purchase them all and flip them for double, or triple the price. if that is the future of phsyical media i don't want any part of it.

@Porco The point is we haven't moved to an all digital world yet, which means two things:
1. There is choice. You can choose to get the product digitally, or choose to get it from a store. Or choose to get it used. Or choose to borrow it, or rent it, or any number of things. The all digital console removes this choice and I don't think there are enough people that want to entirely get rid of that choice to sustain that model.
2. Existing PS4 (and potentially PS3/2/1, we can hope) users that have even a partial physical library will not be able to play those games on the hobbled version.

I am not arguing the benefits of digital or where the market is headed, or the merits of either digital or physical. What I am arguing is that I do not believe there are enough people that want that choice taken away from them that the model will continue to exist beyond launch. That $100 difference at launch, will eventually be a much smaller difference as the price of the consoles comes down. Even if you don't really plan on doing physical media, having that option, even if its just to borrow a game from a friend every now and then, is an option that I don't think enough people will choose to justify the continued existence of the digital only console beyond launch.

Either way it is only a little over 2months till "Holiday Season"