@Kalime78 Or they have a pretty good idea of how many people actually care outside of internet forums and comment sections and that it'll barely affect sales...
I'm excited for them but it's good they're taking the ports seriously. It's been a long time coming anyway, a bit longer won't hurt if that's what is needed.
Gonna be honest, I don't think Bethesda needed any help from MS to explain where they are today. If anything I'd argue it was a lack of external pressure and letting them do their own thing that was the issue.
Look at their output. The main Bethesda studios have been dropping increasingly shallow rpgs game after game and it started well before MS bought them. And what about absolute blunders like Redfall and 76? Redfall launched under Xbox but started development under Zenimax. 76 was years before MS. At worst it's the blind leading the blind.
What's with indie 3D platformer devs beating a dead horse with the one IP they put out? The Yookalaylee dev released there's so much they're apparently nearly out of business and how many goes have the Lucky's Tale guys had at the one or two games? I really don't get the business model.
Yeah, I think I heard it just last week on Jeff Gerstmans podcast. He didn't go into huge detail. From memory he was emphasising how weird expectations can be. He might have been recalling back to the original trilogy as well, again, it was an aside and not very detailed. Those later numbers seem pretty healthy though for sure.
It's kind of hard to call. I think a new Uncharted would do well but maybe in their minds they're thinking one; who will make it? Two; will they be able to make something that lives up to the IP's legacy? And three; how much will it cost? The AAA landscape is so drastically different now. The costs are huge and seemingly things have changed now but up until recently Sony was fixated on that live game money, rather than the modest roi you get from a single player game.
It could simply be that they will get there with Uncharted but it's just taking them time to move the boat around after they've recently changed strategies. It is a very big boat.
I find it pretty disgusting that they can fold a studio one week and start a hiring spree the next. I understand studios are located in different places and there's no doubt many other factors but in my mind these jobs should have been offered to the employees that were recently made redundant and could fill the positions. Perhaps it wouldn't be as efficient and would come with downsides but idk, they're your employees. Maybe try and look out for them...
It's honestly scary to me how little humanity exists in the corporate world.
Didn't Uncharted sales always kind of disappoint Sony? Not in the sense they were bad, clearly they weren't because they made a few of them. More in the greedy corporate sense. The sales were good but not blowing their socks off basically.
Essentially it was a tent poll series for them and the PS3 at a time they didn't have many of those (and still had competition). They've since come up with a handful of viable IP's and there's not much competition hardware wise. Perhaps they just don't think the roi will be great enough for Uncharted given the cost of such a game and yeah, they don't really need software to sell PS5s do they? They kind of just sell.
I'll believe it when I see it. One of my biggest gripes with the game is how they have you spinning a wheel to win a porche or hundreds of thousands of credits every time you boot up the game. Completely destroys any sense of progression when cars are handed out like they come in gum ball machines.
Oh, that's cool. Spider-Man is a great get obviously but I've also wanted to play Test Drive. I've heard it's a bit rubbish though so haven't been willing to put down money to play it.
Man, getting hit with some serious fomo here. Yakuza 3 was the first I played in the series so I'd like to have it (on a system I have plugged in). They really should have given a good discount on it at minimum before they put it out to pasture. All the other ones are 50% off atm. Why not just put it in the Feb sale and then kill it. Obviously they shouldn't take it off the store at all but we're not winning that battle.
Will probably give in. Annoying but what can you do. I presume all our current stuff will be playable on the next system so at least I won't be stuck with only having it on PS3.
It's a sad testament to the state of the industry that some palette swaps have to be singled out and confirmed to be free in an update.
Not hating. It's great they're not money grabbing on the most rudimentary changes. Good for them. Tbh it seems like the kind of game that can be easily monetised in ways that offer value to consumers. More characters and levels etc. That they're not selling colour swaps is a good sign that potential dlc may actually be substantial which is cool.
I had it in my head Red Dead was coming to PS plus. I thought it was already on PS5. Is it a free upgrade if you have the PS4 version? That's on sale atm, might have to grab it.
Edit: it is coming to PS plus. Am I going crazy or is that not made clear on this page?
@TheFakulty That's exactly what I was thinking. As someone that doesn't care for BR I'm not a fan of the move. Maybe 12 months after the BF6 launch or something but not this soon.
I played it and really didn't get the hype. Lots of people were singing it's praises though but it's a crowded market to break into. Why would anyone choose this game over any other? For a couple of weekends while the game is hot, sure, but what's there to keep them coming back? They were naive if they thought they wouldn't have to do something special to maintain people's interest over established titles and the next new game.
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Re: 8 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for May 2026 Announced
New Outlaws would hit plus at some point.
Re: Assassin's Creed Fans Furious as Physical Copies of Black Flag's PS5 Remake Will Require Internet
@Kalime78 Or they have a pretty good idea of how many people actually care outside of internet forums and comment sections and that it'll barely affect sales...
Re: Star Trek Fans, Buy This PS5, PS4 Game Now Before It's Delisted
No idea why they agree to such rubbish deals for the ip.
Re: Seems Like American, Euro Truck Simulator 2 PS5 Releases Are Gonna Be a While Yet
I'm excited for them but it's good they're taking the ports seriously. It's been a long time coming anyway, a bit longer won't hurt if that's what is needed.
Re: 'I Saw How It Was Getting Damaged': Ex-Bethesda Exec Goes to Town on Xbox's Mistreatment
Gonna be honest, I don't think Bethesda needed any help from MS to explain where they are today. If anything I'd argue it was a lack of external pressure and letting them do their own thing that was the issue.
Look at their output. The main Bethesda studios have been dropping increasingly shallow rpgs game after game and it started well before MS bought them. And what about absolute blunders like Redfall and 76? Redfall launched under Xbox but started development under Zenimax. 76 was years before MS. At worst it's the blind leading the blind.
Re: Remember When Call of Duty Said Its New Skins Would Be Sensible? Well, Here's Dave Chappelle
Why are they "celebrating" 4-20 anyway? How cringe.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for April 2026 Announced
I nearly pulled the trigger on Tomb Raider 1-3 so many times. Glad I waited.
Re: Fortnite Is Ditching Several Modes Including Rocket Racing Amid Layoffs and Cost-Cutting
If this effects Rocket League I'm going to be so po'd.
Re: While We Wait for a New 3D Sonic Game, PS5 Is About to Get the Next Best Thing
The next best thing to a 3D Sonic... Like a slap in the face?
Re: These 18+ New PS5, PS4 Games Are Coming Out This Week (23rd-29th March)
What's with indie 3D platformer devs beating a dead horse with the one IP they put out? The Yookalaylee dev released there's so much they're apparently nearly out of business and how many goes have the Lucky's Tale guys had at the one or two games? I really don't get the business model.
Re: 'We'll Still Release on Switch, Xbox, and Steam': Dev Responds to Delisting as Sony Axes 1,000s More PS5, PS4 Games from PS Store
Good riddance.
Re: Street Fighter 6's Incestuous New Storyline Divides Opinion
Or the fans just follow the lore more seriously than the game designers...
Re: 'Unprofessional and Shameful': Tomb Raider Fans Hate 1-3 Remaster's New Outfits
@Czar_Khastik Haha. I loved your work at Betheseda. Good to see you're still putting those skills to good use.
Re: PS5's Coolest Collection of Controllers and Console Covers Are Out Now
They look hideous imo.
Re: 'Whatever We Say, People Won't Believe Us': Crimson Desert Dev Promises Full PS5 Tech Breakdown for Launch
Why are they playing the victim? It's pretty off putting.
Re: PS Plus Premium Has Given You Just 1 Classic PlayStation Game a Month for Over Half a Year Now
I think it's almost literally "a buck" for me in Australia. I think it's cheaper here because we don't get any of the streaming classics.
Re: Learn More About the Cast and Characters of 007 First Light in New Dev Diary
They lost so much of my interest with that Kravitz stunt casting.
Re: Acclaimed Twin-Stick Shooter Minishoot' Adventures Available Now on PS5
Looks great. Love the art direction.
Re: Opinion: If Sony's Doubling Down on Its Most Popular Franchises, Where's Uncharted?
@PuppetMaster
Yeah, I think I heard it just last week on Jeff Gerstmans podcast. He didn't go into huge detail. From memory he was emphasising how weird expectations can be. He might have been recalling back to the original trilogy as well, again, it was an aside and not very detailed. Those later numbers seem pretty healthy though for sure.
It's kind of hard to call. I think a new Uncharted would do well but maybe in their minds they're thinking one; who will make it? Two; will they be able to make something that lives up to the IP's legacy? And three; how much will it cost? The AAA landscape is so drastically different now. The costs are huge and seemingly things have changed now but up until recently Sony was fixated on that live game money, rather than the modest roi you get from a single player game.
It could simply be that they will get there with Uncharted but it's just taking them time to move the boat around after they've recently changed strategies. It is a very big boat.
Re: 'What the F*ck Is This?': God of War Creator Hates First TV Show Image
Everyone did. And Jaffe is still an insufferable so and so.
Re: Shocking: PlayStation Studios Are Hiring for New Games
I find it pretty disgusting that they can fold a studio one week and start a hiring spree the next. I understand studios are located in different places and there's no doubt many other factors but in my mind these jobs should have been offered to the employees that were recently made redundant and could fill the positions. Perhaps it wouldn't be as efficient and would come with downsides but idk, they're your employees. Maybe try and look out for them...
It's honestly scary to me how little humanity exists in the corporate world.
Re: Opinion: If Sony's Doubling Down on Its Most Popular Franchises, Where's Uncharted?
Didn't Uncharted sales always kind of disappoint Sony? Not in the sense they were bad, clearly they weren't because they made a few of them. More in the greedy corporate sense. The sales were good but not blowing their socks off basically.
Essentially it was a tent poll series for them and the PS3 at a time they didn't have many of those (and still had competition). They've since come up with a handful of viable IP's and there's not much competition hardware wise. Perhaps they just don't think the roi will be great enough for Uncharted given the cost of such a game and yeah, they don't really need software to sell PS5s do they? They kind of just sell.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for March 2026 Announced
@James_42 oh, my bad. That's pretty cool than. Ty for thr correction.
Re: Things Sure Aren't Sounding Good for French Publisher Nacon
Who knew releasing 80% rubbish was a bad business model...
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for March 2026 Announced
An annual golf game that's about to be superseded and an MMO with none of the years of dlc...
Oh well Slime Rancher 2 is a good get.
Re: Game Announcements and More in Nacon Connect 2026 Live Stream Next Week
This company is weird. They're capable of getting good games out but so much of their output is utter trash.
Re: Forza Horizon 6's Renewed Focus on Progression Casts You as a Nobody in Japan
I'll believe it when I see it. One of my biggest gripes with the game is how they have you spinning a wheel to win a porche or hundreds of thousands of credits every time you boot up the game. Completely destroys any sense of progression when cars are handed out like they come in gum ball machines.
Re: Opinion: The Euphoric Reaction to PS6's Rumoured Delay Really Confuses Me
No, it's the children who are wrong...
Re: Poll: Should God of War Trilogy Remake Adopt the Gameplay Style of Ragnarok?
Why would anyone want yet another standard Sony 3rd person action game? So boring.
Re: God of War Trilogy Remake Announced for PS5
Remake? Idk if I like the idea of that. I really do not care for the Norse GoW gameplay. I mean it's fine, but it's not GoW to me.
Graphical remake but the same game underneath? Count me hyped.
Re: Rayman: 30th Anniversary Edition Is Real, and It Launches Tomorrow on PS5
Very cool. Hope they do a Rayan 2 version in the future.
Re: 10 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for February 2026 Announced
Nearly bought Monster Hunter Stories a few times. Good get.
Anyone familiar with them, are both worth playing or should I just do the second and maybe play the first if I feel like more?
Re: Dark Magic Wielding Warlock Class Confirmed for Diablo 4, and Out Today in Diablo 2: Resurrected
Oh wow. Literally just started Diablo 2. Didn't think there'd be new characters coming to it lol.
Re: PS Plus Extra Games for February 2026 Leaked
Oh, that's cool. Spider-Man is a great get obviously but I've also wanted to play Test Drive. I've heard it's a bit rubbish though so haven't been willing to put down money to play it.
Re: PSA: This Is Your Last Chance to Grab Yakuza 3 Remastered Before Its Ridiculous Removal
Man, getting hit with some serious fomo here. Yakuza 3 was the first I played in the series so I'd like to have it (on a system I have plugged in). They really should have given a good discount on it at minimum before they put it out to pasture. All the other ones are 50% off atm. Why not just put it in the Feb sale and then kill it. Obviously they shouldn't take it off the store at all but we're not winning that battle.
Will probably give in. Annoying but what can you do. I presume all our current stuff will be playable on the next system so at least I won't be stuck with only having it on PS3.
Re: Marvel Cosmic Invasion's Huge Update Includes Free New Colour Swaps on PS5, PS4
It's a sad testament to the state of the industry that some palette swaps have to be singled out and confirmed to be free in an update.
Not hating. It's great they're not money grabbing on the most rudimentary changes. Good for them. Tbh it seems like the kind of game that can be easily monetised in ways that offer value to consumers. More characters and levels etc. That they're not selling colour swaps is a good sign that potential dlc may actually be substantial which is cool.
Re: Super Bomberman Collection Available Now on PS5, Includes 7 Classic Games
Just SNES and NES titles is a bit disappointing. Still, I'm a sucker for these collections.
Re: More Licensed 16-Bit Classics Are Coming to PS5 This Week
Love the two cartoons but if I want to play the games I'll just boot up an emulator. Most licenced games were rubbish back then.
Re: Maybe There Is Still Hope for the Final Fantasy 13 Trilogy on PS5, After All
Man, that fits one was dreadful. Didn't have it in me to play the others. No accounting for taste, I guess.
Re: Poll: How Would You Rate Cyberpunk 2077, 5 Years Later?
5 years? My God how time flies.
Re: 9 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for December 2025 Announced
Soul Calibur!!! Awesome.
Re: New PS5 Controllers Said to Be Optimised for Better Battery Life
Well they couldn't get worse without becoming wired controllers.
Re: These 13+ PS5, PS4, and PS Plus Games Are Coming Out Next Week (1st-7th December)
I had it in my head Red Dead was coming to PS plus. I thought it was already on PS5. Is it a free upgrade if you have the PS4 version? That's on sale atm, might have to grab it.
Edit: it is coming to PS plus. Am I going crazy or is that not made clear on this page?
Re: Mini Review: Rennsport (PS5) - A Sim Racer That Just Can't Match the Competition
It's Nacon. Trash is their speciality so I'm not really surprised it's rubbish.
Re: First PS Plus Extra Game for December 2025 Announced
Oh, that's awesome. Haven't played it since back in the day. Does the remaster have the zombie dlc?
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft Is Still Gunning for Live Service Success with New Multiplayer Shooter
I mean when has Ubisoft ever learned from their mistakes?
Re: 9 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for November 2025 Announced
Had Pacific Drive on my wish list so that's cool. Thank Goodness you're here looks like a perfect plus game too.
Re: Battlefield REDSEC Is BF6's Free-to-Play Battle Royale Mode, and It's Out Now on PS5
@TheFakulty That's exactly what I was thinking. As someone that doesn't care for BR I'm not a fan of the move. Maybe 12 months after the BF6 launch or something but not this soon.
Re: Activision Confirms Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4 Won't Be Free Roam on PS5, PS4
Awful decision. Just completely took away my enthusiasm for the game.
Re: Publisher Nexon Investigating Cause of The Finals' 'Lower-Than-Expected' Performance
I played it and really didn't get the hype. Lots of people were singing it's praises though but it's a crowded market to break into. Why would anyone choose this game over any other? For a couple of weekends while the game is hot, sure, but what's there to keep them coming back? They were naive if they thought they wouldn't have to do something special to maintain people's interest over established titles and the next new game.