I dont know if asking this crowd is a good benchmark for this, seeing as everyone here seemingly hates multiplayer titles especially with cartoonish artstyles
@DennisReynolds I think 20 characters is plenty to start with. The number of possible team combination is already huge. And it’ll only grow over time, it might end up double that amount or more after all the additions. I would say it’s a solid number, with the caveat that i’m no fighting game expert
we were told flat out by Jim Ryan that they would be used to help create the first person narrative adventure games we want from Sony, yet here we are 6 years from that PR speak and the live service push has only given us one decent live service game and zero narrative action adventure games that are the best yet in their respective series. HFW, GoY, and Ragnarok are all good games, but they weren’t as good or impactful as HZD, GoT, or GoW (2018), and therein lies the problem. Rift Apart is the only one that came close to that mark, but Sony’s turned Insomniac into a Marvel machine, so that feels different. Yes, anyone could argue that the Spider-Man games have improved, but that feels different and we all know that feels different.
They still obviously made plenty of single player games this generation. Some might not have been the best in their series, but some have. But is that somehow a criteria to count? Even if some werent the best in their series, they all scored in the 90’s and high 80’s on MC, with GoW Raganrok up for GOTY, and Astro Bot even winning GOTY.
Your comment almost comes across as if they havent done anything single player related this gen
People just get way to bothered when Sony announces anything multiplayer.
They just released Ghost of Yotei and Death Stranding 2, and already have 2 single players games releasing this year with Saros and Wolverine (and that’s just what we currently know of)
Every year thay have published at least 1 single player game, and some years even 2, so i dont know what people are on, it’s not like they’re forgetting to make single player games or anything.
And remember, the Horizon Co Op has a canon story which can be played alone as well, so its not a multiplayer only title
@dskatter I think it’s hardly about them forgetting Concord, rather than some games were already so far in development and they decided to go along with it.
Also, many people seem to enjoy games like these. I’m not one of them btw, and i personally dont play any of those popular games like Fortnite or Marvel Rivals, but that doesnt mean other people feel the same way of course.
Sony has access to way more data than us, and sees that a majority of gamers likes a certain type of games. Thats why many publishers try their hand at creating those games. It’s not like these publishers just guess what games to make, or read Push Square comments from a hardcore niche group of gamers just to focus development on what we want. They look at where the money is spent by the majority. Do i think thats sometimes unfortunate? Yes! Do i think that’s totally unreasonable for a business to do? No.
Of course games may flop, like many do with all publishers, because its always a gamble how well things are received, but its not totally irational for publishers to try.
Just to be clear, i’m not saying i like those types of games either, i just understand that not every game Sony makes will be for me, and i try to add nuance as towhy they are doing it. Unfortunately our taste isnt the mainstream, nor the ones that makes the most money.
And whether they succeed with games like these is hard to gauge, because most of what succeeds isnt to my taste either. Not saying you’re one of them, but all these people yelling online, about Sony not creating what they want them to create, is getting real cringy
“I dont like it, therefore it shouldnt exist” 🤦🏻♂️
@PuppetMaster You’re a 100% right! Sony still gives us those small AA/indie games in between. And i can only laugh when some people here move those goalposts around. First they complain they’re not made by in house studios, then when you explain that the games that were mentioned also werent made by in house studios, all of sudden its not about in house studios anymore, its about whethere they “feel” like Playstation games to them, Lol!
And you’re right, onenof the reasons they dont do them in house anymore, is because most of these efforts in the past havent dont well commercially. It really is pedantic to argue that they dont offer AA/indie games because they’re not made in house, because that is just a production decision, many publishers opt this route for some of their games.
All the examples you made are Playstation console exclusives, and some have been published and some even funded or helped developed by Sony.
The people complaining that Playstation doesnt do AA/indie in between anymore are totally ignoring all these exclusive games
@dskatter Tbf, i’m willing to bet that if we asked this same audience whether they like Fortnite, it would go the same way, but apparently the rest of the world disagrees. So i’m not sure if this crowd is the best benchmark to gauge if a game will be liked by the masses
I’m all for people expressing their opinion, i just dont understand why some people feel the need to yell things like “this crap shouldnt have been made” or “who asked for this, i hope this flops”.
I mean, apparently there are also many people here that do like it, so let people enjoy it. Studios can’t make games that will always appeal to everyone. Heck, i can’t for the life of me understand whats so fascinating about Fortnite, but apparently half the world likes it. Who cares, to each their own
Not hating on the artstyle, but not necessarily a big fan of it. I already said my piece on the announcement article so not gonna repeat it here.
Just wondering though, are the people here even a good indication for what most people want or play? Seems like most here hate multiplayer games, especially Fortnite looking ones.
But when you look at the most played games of today.… 🤔
@WhoderMan I’m actually not a 100% sold on the artstyle myself.
But i was actually replying to this comment of yours:
Why do people think that it is not OK to dislike something? Not liking change in art direction isn't the same thing as "hating" it.
You promote something and make a comments section but get defensive if people don't like what you want them to like. Sheesh.
I assumed that last part was meant towards sammyb, hence my comment, but maybe i was wrong
@WhoderMan Tbf to him, i think its not about people hating on the artstyle, but people comparing it to Fortnite (which i did as well). And looking at it closer, it does not exactly look like Fortnite, and is indeed a bit of a lazy comparison, as he said
@Grumblevolcano I dont understand your point. Are you saying the next SoP might be purely third party based on two SoP’s 5/6 years ago?
I dont know if this will be a purely 3rd party SoP or not btw, i’m not claiming anything, i was merely saying that most have had some kind of 1st party presence even if the main focus was 3rd party. And i personally hope GoW 2.5 shows up
@get2sammyb I’m one of the ones that said Fortnite esque artstyle, but i just watched some Fortnite footage, and you’re right. Its a totally different style. I actually had to look it up, because i’ve never played Fortnite, i’ve only seem gameplay passing through on ads and stuff lol. I guess it’s just the general feel of the artstyle and the UI that made me think of it, if that makes any sense. I do agree with @MFTWrecks that it looks more Arcane esque
Btw, not hating the artstyle at all, but personally not really my cup of tea
@Grumblevolcano Most State of Plays focus on 3rd party, but i believe all of them also had new 1st party announcements in them as well.
I think Astro Bot, Ghost of Yotei, Saros and Marvel Tokon were all announced at SoP’s that predominantly focused on 3rd party games for the rest. Here’s hoping that GoW 2.5 game shows up at next weeks SoP 🤞🏼
Loved the little mini Developer Direct! My first thought though is why not save this for the upcoming State of Play? Oh well, i guess that leaves more new things to show up there.
As for the game, i was pretty excited to hear about it, i like the story+co op elements and will keep an eye on developments, but i cant say that i’m really feeling all of it. They also went with the Fortnite esque artsyle (although this looks much better), which i dont hate, but cant say that i love it.
All in all, for the moment im kind of ‘meh’ on it, but happy to be convinced otherwise by future gameplay and reviews
For me the screen is already pretty good. But still nice for people who havent bought one to have the option.
What i would like to see the is the ability to stream games 1:1 off the console without lag like the Wii U gamepad was able to, but seeing as im no expert in these kinds of things, i’m probably asking for something impossible.
Edit: Also, if they could add a little storage and a soc, and the ability to download ps1, ps2 and psp games would be awesome
Looks good! These Hero Projects from Sony are such good initiatives, i hope they’ll expand to even more regions outside China, India and Middle East. Like South American and South East Asia perhaps. Love seeing games made from different perspectives and cultures besides the mainstream ones
@Member_the_game Sorry, but this is kinda funny to me. You’re right, people tend to moan excessively about PS+ games. Now you feel kinda ‘’meh’ about them for the first time, and suddenly everyone in the comment section seems to be be generally positive about them 😂 (at least so far)
When i watched the direct that featured Starfield i was pretty hyped. Then the game launched and i quickly lost interest. But if this comes to Playstation, i might still get it
But even if Steam would sell more on Xbox than MS Store, that would also affect hardware sales because people would buy it for that functionality
I dont think there’s a correlation there. If the people that bought a ROG Ally X tend to buy games through Steam, that doesnt necessarily mean that it will attract other people to buy that handheld. I think pricing has much to do with it, if its really over $1000 as rumours suggest, it wont appeal to the mass console crowd. And as a fixed hardware platform, i doubt many PC players would trade in their upgradable PC for it. But i will wait for more concrete details, before i can say anything sensible about it though. Personally, i’m very curious to see what they are going to come up with
@Leinad7 I’m still not a 100% sold on the idea that next gen Xbox will definitely have Steam on it. I’m not saying it wont, im only saying we cant state these as facts when its not yet confirmed.
I think they’re looking very closely at what their audience is doing with the ROG Ally X, and how people are buying games, before they go through with such a risky move such as introducing Steam in their console ecosystem.
The risk being that if Steam is on a next gen Xbox, people might only buy games through that store, effectively leaving Xbox with no revenue on 3rd party game sales. They’d basically be doing Valve a favor by creating a Steam machine where people spend money in Valve’s ecosystem, not Xbox’s.
Again, not saying its not gonna happen, but i’d at least wait for confirmstion before saying things as next gen Xbox will have Steam and definitely will have free multiplayer, because we might be getting too much ahead of ourselves here
@Leinad7 You migh not agree with it, but those are the numbers. Lot’s of people buy TCL, thats why they even sold more units than LG as of late, i believe.
You compare TCL with Daewoo as if Daewoo a dominant brand in the car industry. TCL is the #2 brand in tv market share. That’s totally different.
I get what you’re saying about brand prestige, but this is more about competing in sales. Even Sony’s prestige tv brand isn’t cutting it anymore in the tv business, because Samsung is just too dominant.
And i think a joint venture with TCL might be more fruitful, because honestly those other brands you named like Philips and Panasonic arent doing so well either, tv hardware is just too low profit margin for them all to succeed in.
Sony might only have a 5% market share or something, with very thin profits. Doing this joint venture doesnt mean Sony is going to produce cheap tv’s, it means Sony is going to use TCL’s far superior scale of production and sales.
TCL isnt necessarily that bad in build quality either btw, sure its no Samsung or LG, but that doesnt meant its very bad. A Hyundai is not a Porsche, but doesnt mean a Hyundai is automatically a bad quality car. Again, just different segments
Of course anyone who can would choose 911 over Elantra.
What about people who can’t afford luxury items? There’s obviously a market for affordable tv’s. That’s where TCL comes in, and now with Sony they can tackle both the budget and the premium segment.
Cheap means its built quality is obviously worse, picture quality as well. It’s like comparing Hyundai and Porsche
Sure, but what does that have to do with business succes? They’re just catering to different segment. In fact Hyundai has a current market cap of $91B and Porsche is valued at $45B.
Hyundai had a revenue of $122B and net profits of $9B, Porsche had a revenue of $26B and net profits of only $40M. So even though it’s cheaper it sells better, because not everyone can afford luxury items.
That’s also why TCL has such a large market share in tv’s, and they’re closing the gap with samsung and LG, and in the end that’s what counts in business. Like Hyundai might be cheaper, but if it sells more, it’s a more succesful business. TCL is doing way better than Sony ever did, so working with them might actually be the better business strategy.
Nowadays there are two main players in TV market: Samsung selling for masses and LG selling for picture quality
I dont think you realize how big TCL is. TCL has a larger market share than LG. They’re the 2nd largest tv brand, even in the premium tv segment. So no, its definitely not just two main players in the tv market. And this joint venture with Sony will make their market share even larger
@Leinad7 To be fair, plenty of succesful companies make stupid decisions. (MS Zune, Google Stadia) The fact that they’re the richest doesnt mean they cant make stupid decisions. It’s just that they have so much money that those bad decisions wont always have large consequences.
Also, Sony is not “giving away” their tv business. They created a new joint venture and still retain a 49% stake, so they still have significant influence. They are just realizing that there isnt much growth in it for them, and too much risk with all these competitors willing to take very low profit margins.
This way they can leverage TCL’s scale, supply chain and distribution, which TCL is verys strong in, and reduce Sony exposure to risk. Business wise, it seems like a pretty well thought out strategy if you ask me.
But could you elaborate on why you think the joint venture with TCL is a bad decision by Sony?
Would you say Sony would be better off to keep competing alone in a that low profit margin business?
I haven’t picked one up yet, but as i’ve said with every PS Portal article, i’m gonna pick up one soon. Honestly, i want one, but i just keep forgetting about this handheld, and it’s also not that big of a priority to me right now. Nice to hear it’s doing good though. I’ll pick up one soon 😉
So this is the 3rd best selling game on PS5 and the 11th best selling game of all platforms this year, even though it released in October and was not a multiplat game like the rest? Wow, that’s a pretty big accomplishment. Congrats, Sucker Punch!
Ghost of Yotei ranking 11th best selling game of all platforms, while being a Playstation exclusive and releasing in the 10th month of the year is crazy impressive 😳
Am i even reading this right? Maybe i’m not. It’s almost unbelievable.
Y’all should better change the title of this article to “PS exclusive manages to hold its own amidst multiplatform releases”
The Xbox game i was most excited for. And while i liked the ideas, i’m not quite that excited anymore. Never played a Fable game before, so i thought this might be it. I mean, it’s alright, but it just didn’t really appeal that much to me unfortunately, but will still keep an eye on it.
Also, was it me or was the traversal/combat slow and jittery?
Looks good! I did get some ‘FH5, but in Japan’ vibes, but i guess thats only natural with sequels. All in all, it’s not really for me. But maybe later on when it’s on sale or something
@Leinad7 I’m not claiming anything like that. I was having a discussion with someone with clear boundaries. We were only talking about Sony games after 2018 that had financial succes. You are just going out of your way to move goalposts, talking about completely different things like whether these games sold more than their predecessors, which is a whole different topic
@Leinad7 Again, what the other user and i were discussing was financial succes of Sony’s games after 2018, not whether people liked the game. If the game sold 16M copies (by whatever means), that means its a financial succes, so by all accounts it deserves a place in that list
If i had to guess, i’d say probably around 1-2M of the copies were sold through the bundles. But that still doesnt negate the fact that the game is a financial succes
Does sadly feel like the end of an era somehow, even if they haven’t exactly left the TV space. But business wise i understand the move. TV hardware is a low profit margin business, and TCL is doing much better in that space. So if TCL panels can benefit from Sony’s tech expertise and sell them cheaper, it’ll be a win for everyone including consumers. This way Sony doesnt have to bother selling TV’s and let TCL do what they do best while they benefit from it, and Sony can do whay they do they best nowadays, which is more on the entertainment side rather than hardware
The more i see of it, the more excited get. After the first alpha showing i was kinda meh about it, but that was just an alpha build. These last two developer deep dives have really gotten me interested. Now it’s looking very good to me, but still gonna wait for reviews
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Re: The Internet Has Not Been Kind to Horizon Hunters Gathering
I dont know if asking this crowd is a good benchmark for this, seeing as everyone here seemingly hates multiplayer titles especially with cartoonish artstyles
Re: The Internet Has Not Been Kind to Horizon Hunters Gathering
I wish Sony good luck with such a fickle userbase
Re: Sony's PS5 Fighter Marvel Tokon Confirms 20 Characters at Launch, Single Player 'Episode' Mode
@DennisReynolds I think 20 characters is plenty to start with. The number of possible team combination is already huge. And it’ll only grow over time, it might end up double that amount or more after all the additions. I would say it’s a solid number, with the caveat that i’m no fighting game expert
Re: Sony's PS5 Fighter Marvel Tokon Confirms 20 Characters at Launch, Single Player 'Episode' Mode
I’m definitely in for a new fighting game, and this might just be it! Excited to see more and hope we get a release date
Re: Mega State of Play Confirmed for Thursday, Over 60 Mins of PS5 Announcements and Updates
Damn, did not expect it to be over an hour! 😎 Won’t get my hopes up too high, but this might be a big one.
My predictions:
Hopium version:
Re: PS5's First State of Play of 2026 Tipped for Later This Week
They still obviously made plenty of single player games this generation. Some might not have been the best in their series, but some have. But is that somehow a criteria to count? Even if some werent the best in their series, they all scored in the 90’s and high 80’s on MC, with GoW Raganrok up for GOTY, and Astro Bot even winning GOTY.
Your comment almost comes across as if they havent done anything single player related this gen
Re: PS5's First State of Play of 2026 Tipped for Later This Week
People just get way to bothered when Sony announces anything multiplayer.
They just released Ghost of Yotei and Death Stranding 2, and already have 2 single players games releasing this year with Saros and Wolverine (and that’s just what we currently know of)
Every year thay have published at least 1 single player game, and some years even 2, so i dont know what people are on, it’s not like they’re forgetting to make single player games or anything.
And remember, the Horizon Co Op has a canon story which can be played alone as well, so its not a multiplayer only title
Re: Horizon Hunters Gathering Is Guerrilla's Next Big PS5 Game, Horizon 3 Still Years Away
@dskatter I think it’s hardly about them forgetting Concord, rather than some games were already so far in development and they decided to go along with it.
Also, many people seem to enjoy games like these. I’m not one of them btw, and i personally dont play any of those popular games like Fortnite or Marvel Rivals, but that doesnt mean other people feel the same way of course.
Sony has access to way more data than us, and sees that a majority of gamers likes a certain type of games. Thats why many publishers try their hand at creating those games. It’s not like these publishers just guess what games to make, or read Push Square comments from a hardcore niche group of gamers just to focus development on what we want. They look at where the money is spent by the majority. Do i think thats sometimes unfortunate? Yes! Do i think that’s totally unreasonable for a business to do? No.
Of course games may flop, like many do with all publishers, because its always a gamble how well things are received, but its not totally irational for publishers to try.
Just to be clear, i’m not saying i like those types of games either, i just understand that not every game Sony makes will be for me, and i try to add nuance as towhy they are doing it. Unfortunately our taste isnt the mainstream, nor the ones that makes the most money.
And whether they succeed with games like these is hard to gauge, because most of what succeeds isnt to my taste either. Not saying you’re one of them, but all these people yelling online, about Sony not creating what they want them to create, is getting real cringy
“I dont like it, therefore it shouldnt exist” 🤦🏻♂️
Re: Horizon Hunters Gathering Is Guerrilla's Next Big PS5 Game, Horizon 3 Still Years Away
@PuppetMaster You’re a 100% right! Sony still gives us those small AA/indie games in between. And i can only laugh when some people here move those goalposts around. First they complain they’re not made by in house studios, then when you explain that the games that were mentioned also werent made by in house studios, all of sudden its not about in house studios anymore, its about whethere they “feel” like Playstation games to them, Lol!
And you’re right, onenof the reasons they dont do them in house anymore, is because most of these efforts in the past havent dont well commercially. It really is pedantic to argue that they dont offer AA/indie games because they’re not made in house, because that is just a production decision, many publishers opt this route for some of their games.
All the examples you made are Playstation console exclusives, and some have been published and some even funded or helped developed by Sony.
The people complaining that Playstation doesnt do AA/indie in between anymore are totally ignoring all these exclusive games
Re: Poll: What's Your Reaction to Horizon Hunters Gathering?
@dskatter Tbf, i’m willing to bet that if we asked this same audience whether they like Fortnite, it would go the same way, but apparently the rest of the world disagrees. So i’m not sure if this crowd is the best benchmark to gauge if a game will be liked by the masses
Re: Poll: What's Your Reaction to Horizon Hunters Gathering?
It feels like people forgot the difference between ‘I don’t like this’ and ‘this is objectively bad
Re: Sony Finally Confirms Horizon Co-Op Game, Horizon Hunters Gathering for PS5, PC
“I dont like this, therefore no one does”
— Half of the users on Push Square 😎
Re: Sony Finally Confirms Horizon Co-Op Game, Horizon Hunters Gathering for PS5, PC
I’m all for people expressing their opinion, i just dont understand why some people feel the need to yell things like “this crap shouldnt have been made” or “who asked for this, i hope this flops”.
I mean, apparently there are also many people here that do like it, so let people enjoy it. Studios can’t make games that will always appeal to everyone. Heck, i can’t for the life of me understand whats so fascinating about Fortnite, but apparently half the world likes it. Who cares, to each their own
Re: Microsoft Targeting Halo PS5 Release in the Summer
My guess is that E-day will be early 2027, idk just a hunch
Re: Poll: What's Your Reaction to Horizon Hunters Gathering?
Not hating on the artstyle, but not necessarily a big fan of it. I already said my piece on the announcement article so not gonna repeat it here.
Just wondering though, are the people here even a good indication for what most people want or play? Seems like most here hate multiplayer games, especially Fortnite looking ones.
But when you look at the most played games of today.… 🤔
Re: Sony Finally Confirms Horizon Co-Op Game, Horizon Hunters Gathering for PS5, PC
@WhoderMan I’m actually not a 100% sold on the artstyle myself.
But i was actually replying to this comment of yours:
I assumed that last part was meant towards sammyb, hence my comment, but maybe i was wrong
Re: Sony Finally Confirms Horizon Co-Op Game, Horizon Hunters Gathering for PS5, PC
@WhoderMan Tbf to him, i think its not about people hating on the artstyle, but people comparing it to Fortnite (which i did as well). And looking at it closer, it does not exactly look like Fortnite, and is indeed a bit of a lazy comparison, as he said
Re: Sony Finally Confirms Horizon Co-Op Game, Horizon Hunters Gathering for PS5, PC
@Grumblevolcano I dont understand your point. Are you saying the next SoP might be purely third party based on two SoP’s 5/6 years ago?
I dont know if this will be a purely 3rd party SoP or not btw, i’m not claiming anything, i was merely saying that most have had some kind of 1st party presence even if the main focus was 3rd party. And i personally hope GoW 2.5 shows up
Re: Sony Finally Confirms Horizon Co-Op Game, Horizon Hunters Gathering for PS5, PC
@PuppetMaster Yes, my thoughts as well
Re: Sony Finally Confirms Horizon Co-Op Game, Horizon Hunters Gathering for PS5, PC
@get2sammyb I’m one of the ones that said Fortnite esque artstyle, but i just watched some Fortnite footage, and you’re right. Its a totally different style. I actually had to look it up, because i’ve never played Fortnite, i’ve only seem gameplay passing through on ads and stuff lol. I guess it’s just the general feel of the artstyle and the UI that made me think of it, if that makes any sense. I do agree with @MFTWrecks that it looks more Arcane esque
Btw, not hating the artstyle at all, but personally not really my cup of tea
Re: Sony Finally Confirms Horizon Co-Op Game, Horizon Hunters Gathering for PS5, PC
@Grumblevolcano Most State of Plays focus on 3rd party, but i believe all of them also had new 1st party announcements in them as well.
I think Astro Bot, Ghost of Yotei, Saros and Marvel Tokon were all announced at SoP’s that predominantly focused on 3rd party games for the rest. Here’s hoping that GoW 2.5 game shows up at next weeks SoP 🤞🏼
Re: Sony Finally Confirms Horizon Co-Op Game, Horizon Hunters Gathering for PS5, PC
Loved the little mini Developer Direct! My first thought though is why not save this for the upcoming State of Play? Oh well, i guess that leaves more new things to show up there.
As for the game, i was pretty excited to hear about it, i like the story+co op elements and will keep an eye on developments, but i cant say that i’m really feeling all of it. They also went with the Fortnite esque artsyle (although this looks much better), which i dont hate, but cant say that i love it.
All in all, for the moment im kind of ‘meh’ on it, but happy to be convinced otherwise by future gameplay and reviews
Re: Rumour: PS Portal OLED Version Coming This Year
For me the screen is already pretty good. But still nice for people who havent bought one to have the option.
What i would like to see the is the ability to stream games 1:1 off the console without lag like the Wii U gamepad was able to, but seeing as im no expert in these kinds of things, i’m probably asking for something impossible.
Edit: Also, if they could add a little storage and a soc, and the ability to download ps1, ps2 and psp games would be awesome
Re: Has PlayStation Found Its Own Black Myth: Wukong? New PS5 Console Exclusive Is One to Watch
Looks good! These Hero Projects from Sony are such good initiatives, i hope they’ll expand to even more regions outside China, India and Middle East. Like South American and South East Asia perhaps. Love seeing games made from different perspectives and cultures besides the mainstream ones
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for February 2026 Announced
@Member_the_game Sorry, but this is kinda funny to me. You’re right, people tend to moan excessively about PS+ games. Now you feel kinda ‘’meh’ about them for the first time, and suddenly everyone in the comment section seems to be be generally positive about them 😂 (at least so far)
Re: Fable Announced for PS5, Releases in Autumn 2026
@Leinad7 And many also buy TCL, that’s why they have the 2nd largest tv market share. How about we give this topic a rest for now 😉
Re: Sony's Sending Messages to PS4 Players Encouraging Them to Upgrade to PS5
Where the mods at when people are really trolling/baiting, calling everyone here stupid fanboys 🫣
Re: Sony's Sending Messages to PS4 Players Encouraging Them to Upgrade to PS5
Calling a simple upgrade message ‘harassment’, after the console’s been out for 13 years, seems a bit exaggerated
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Re: Starfield 2.0 Overhaul Mentioned Yet Again as Wait for PS5 Announcement Continues
When i watched the direct that featured Starfield i was pretty hyped. Then the game launched and i quickly lost interest. But if this comes to Playstation, i might still get it
Re: Xbox Will Try to Deliver PS5 Ports on Launch Day More Consistently
@Leinad7
I dont think there’s a correlation there. If the people that bought a ROG Ally X tend to buy games through Steam, that doesnt necessarily mean that it will attract other people to buy that handheld. I think pricing has much to do with it, if its really over $1000 as rumours suggest, it wont appeal to the mass console crowd. And as a fixed hardware platform, i doubt many PC players would trade in their upgradable PC for it. But i will wait for more concrete details, before i can say anything sensible about it though. Personally, i’m very curious to see what they are going to come up with
Re: Fable Announced for PS5, Releases in Autumn 2026
@Leinad7 I dont understand your point tbh. Yes, i would buy a Samsung, but many people buy TCL because not everyone can afford the premium segment
Re: Xbox Will Try to Deliver PS5 Ports on Launch Day More Consistently
@Leinad7 I’m still not a 100% sold on the idea that next gen Xbox will definitely have Steam on it. I’m not saying it wont, im only saying we cant state these as facts when its not yet confirmed.
I think they’re looking very closely at what their audience is doing with the ROG Ally X, and how people are buying games, before they go through with such a risky move such as introducing Steam in their console ecosystem.
The risk being that if Steam is on a next gen Xbox, people might only buy games through that store, effectively leaving Xbox with no revenue on 3rd party game sales. They’d basically be doing Valve a favor by creating a Steam machine where people spend money in Valve’s ecosystem, not Xbox’s.
Again, not saying its not gonna happen, but i’d at least wait for confirmstion before saying things as next gen Xbox will have Steam and definitely will have free multiplayer, because we might be getting too much ahead of ourselves here
Re: Fable Announced for PS5, Releases in Autumn 2026
@Leinad7 You migh not agree with it, but those are the numbers. Lot’s of people buy TCL, thats why they even sold more units than LG as of late, i believe.
You compare TCL with Daewoo as if Daewoo a dominant brand in the car industry. TCL is the #2 brand in tv market share. That’s totally different.
I get what you’re saying about brand prestige, but this is more about competing in sales. Even Sony’s prestige tv brand isn’t cutting it anymore in the tv business, because Samsung is just too dominant.
And i think a joint venture with TCL might be more fruitful, because honestly those other brands you named like Philips and Panasonic arent doing so well either, tv hardware is just too low profit margin for them all to succeed in.
Sony might only have a 5% market share or something, with very thin profits. Doing this joint venture doesnt mean Sony is going to produce cheap tv’s, it means Sony is going to use TCL’s far superior scale of production and sales.
TCL isnt necessarily that bad in build quality either btw, sure its no Samsung or LG, but that doesnt meant its very bad. A Hyundai is not a Porsche, but doesnt mean a Hyundai is automatically a bad quality car. Again, just different segments
Re: Fable Announced for PS5, Releases in Autumn 2026
@Leinad7
What about people who can’t afford luxury items? There’s obviously a market for affordable tv’s. That’s where TCL comes in, and now with Sony they can tackle both the budget and the premium segment.
Sure, but what does that have to do with business succes? They’re just catering to different segment. In fact Hyundai has a current market cap of $91B and Porsche is valued at $45B.
Hyundai had a revenue of $122B and net profits of $9B, Porsche had a revenue of $26B and net profits of only $40M. So even though it’s cheaper it sells better, because not everyone can afford luxury items.
That’s also why TCL has such a large market share in tv’s, and they’re closing the gap with samsung and LG, and in the end that’s what counts in business. Like Hyundai might be cheaper, but if it sells more, it’s a more succesful business. TCL is doing way better than Sony ever did, so working with them might actually be the better business strategy.
Re: Fable Announced for PS5, Releases in Autumn 2026
@Leinad7
I dont think you realize how big TCL is. TCL has a larger market share than LG. They’re the 2nd largest tv brand, even in the premium tv segment. So no, its definitely not just two main players in the tv market. And this joint venture with Sony will make their market share even larger
Re: Fable Announced for PS5, Releases in Autumn 2026
@Leinad7 To be fair, plenty of succesful companies make stupid decisions. (MS Zune, Google Stadia) The fact that they’re the richest doesnt mean they cant make stupid decisions. It’s just that they have so much money that those bad decisions wont always have large consequences.
Also, Sony is not “giving away” their tv business. They created a new joint venture and still retain a 49% stake, so they still have significant influence. They are just realizing that there isnt much growth in it for them, and too much risk with all these competitors willing to take very low profit margins.
This way they can leverage TCL’s scale, supply chain and distribution, which TCL is verys strong in, and reduce Sony exposure to risk. Business wise, it seems like a pretty well thought out strategy if you ask me.
But could you elaborate on why you think the joint venture with TCL is a bad decision by Sony?
Would you say Sony would be better off to keep competing alone in a that low profit margin business?
Re: PS Portal Peaks in USA with Highest PS5 Console Attach Rate Yet
I haven’t picked one up yet, but as i’ve said with every PS Portal article, i’m gonna pick up one soon. Honestly, i want one, but i just keep forgetting about this handheld, and it’s also not that big of a priority to me right now. Nice to hear it’s doing good though. I’ll pick up one soon 😉
Re: In a Sea of Live Service, Ghost of Yotei Was the Third Best-Selling PS5 Game of 2025 in the US
It sold more than CoD on PS5? Damn!
So this is the 3rd best selling game on PS5 and the 11th best selling game of all platforms this year, even though it released in October and was not a multiplat game like the rest? Wow, that’s a pretty big accomplishment. Congrats, Sucker Punch!
Re: Call of Duty Sales Hit 17-Year Low with Black Ops 7
Ghost of Yotei ranking 11th best selling game of all platforms, while being a Playstation exclusive and releasing in the 10th month of the year is crazy impressive 😳
Am i even reading this right? Maybe i’m not. It’s almost unbelievable.
Y’all should better change the title of this article to “PS exclusive manages to hold its own amidst multiplatform releases”
Re: Fable Announced for PS5, Releases in Autumn 2026
@Leinad7 Whatever you say 😎
Re: Fable Announced for PS5, Releases in Autumn 2026
@Leinad7 Lol, dont know what Wolverine has to do with it, but fair enough thanks for sharing
Re: Kiln Is a Pottery Party Brawler from Double Fine, Coming to PS5 in 2026
Psychonauts and Keeper seem like very cool games, but this one is not for me
Re: Fable Announced for PS5, Releases in Autumn 2026
@Leinad7
That’s certainly an opinion, and a very premature one.
Personally, i found it a bit underwhelming, but to each their own
Re: Fable Announced for PS5, Releases in Autumn 2026
The Xbox game i was most excited for. And while i liked the ideas, i’m not quite that excited anymore. Never played a Fable game before, so i thought this might be it. I mean, it’s alright, but it just didn’t really appeal that much to me unfortunately, but will still keep an eye on it.
Also, was it me or was the traversal/combat slow and jittery?
Re: Forza Horizon 6 Confirmed to Launch on PS5 in 2026, Gameplay Revealed
Looks good! I did get some ‘FH5, but in Japan’ vibes, but i guess thats only natural with sequels. All in all, it’s not really for me. But maybe later on when it’s on sale or something
Re: Most Downloaded PS5 Games of 2025 Revealed, as Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Tops Ghost of Yotei
@Leinad7 I’m not claiming anything like that. I was having a discussion with someone with clear boundaries. We were only talking about Sony games after 2018 that had financial succes. You are just going out of your way to move goalposts, talking about completely different things like whether these games sold more than their predecessors, which is a whole different topic
Re: Most Downloaded PS5 Games of 2025 Revealed, as Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Tops Ghost of Yotei
@Leinad7 Again, what the other user and i were discussing was financial succes of Sony’s games after 2018, not whether people liked the game. If the game sold 16M copies (by whatever means), that means its a financial succes, so by all accounts it deserves a place in that list
If i had to guess, i’d say probably around 1-2M of the copies were sold through the bundles. But that still doesnt negate the fact that the game is a financial succes
Re: The End of an Era: Sony Spins Off Iconic Television Business
Does sadly feel like the end of an era somehow, even if they haven’t exactly left the TV space. But business wise i understand the move. TV hardware is a low profit margin business, and TCL is doing much better in that space. So if TCL panels can benefit from Sony’s tech expertise and sell them cheaper, it’ll be a win for everyone including consumers. This way Sony doesnt have to bother selling TV’s and let TCL do what they do best while they benefit from it, and Sony can do whay they do they best nowadays, which is more on the entertainment side rather than hardware
Re: Marathon's Slick Sci-Fi Visuals Will Look Particularly Crisp on PS5 Pro
The more i see of it, the more excited get. After the first alpha showing i was kinda meh about it, but that was just an alpha build. These last two developer deep dives have really gotten me interested. Now it’s looking very good to me, but still gonna wait for reviews