LogicStrikesAgain

Its not that big a deal people. The vast majority of games are multiplat. But as a platformholder you just want to create a few exclusive experiences to promote your own hardware. We’re talking about just a few games here guys. Honestly, i never use this expression, but people really need to touch some grass

@TrollOfWar Yeah, but going day 1 PC or shortening the time it releases would weaken their brand and lowers incentive to buy their hardware. I think this has been mentioned a dozes times or so already in this comment section alone

95% of games are multiplat. People complain that platformholders want to make a few exclusive games for their own platform to entice costumers. I dont get all this drama. If anyone wants one of those games, and therefore needs to buy their console, doesnt that platformholder just deserve that sale? People say they like competition, but they really don’t

I have no problems with exclusives. The vast majority of games are already multiplat. Who cares if platform holders make a small percentage of exclusive games to entice customers.

And even if i’m a PS enthousiast, I also don’t care if Nintendo and Xbox have exclusives. Again, 95% of the games out there are playable on multiple platforms.

I say, if these platform holders make a game enticing enough for people to buy their platform, then they deserved that sale.
Exclusives are one of the main things that sets these consoles apart.

My prediction/hopium:

2027 > Sony handheld and Helix release (maybe delayed to 2028)
2028 > PS6 release

Next gen Xbox - $1099-1599
PS6 - $799-$999, perhaps with a cheaper base model going for $599-799

Ram crisis messed things up so bad its almost impossible to even guess these prices

Solid numbers. Maybe not spectacular, but a good start to build from. Definitely not doa as some here suggested (some people need their armchair analist license revoked😂)

Remember people, Sony releasing a new console doesnt make your current console obsolete, there will be a long cross gen period so you’ll still enjoy all the same games. Just an fyi

I remember people complaining at launch that the PS5 was already underpowered, but now they want more out of a system that is the equivalent of an RTX2070 lol

I feel like Sony probably wanted to push its release back to 2028, but now that Xbox might be releasing their next gen console, they can’t afford giving the competition a year headstart. Oh well, nothings definite. For all we know both might still release in 2028

@edgar14 I was reacting to what you said:

this should not happen. Many games got low scores because they ran bad while in the review period even before the day 1 patch that fixed many of those problems

Thats why i mentioned that it was open to play for everyone. They are not hiding that the game is running bad. They literally opened it up for everyone to see.

Most outlets already have articles out on the game so far. Many influencers also sharing their thoughts on youtube. Even Push Square has an article on the game so far.

Just not the full thing, cause its not available yet. But don’t get me wrong, i get your frustration, and i dont completely disagree with you either. To me personally however, they are transparant about it and explained their reasoning, so i’m fine with it

@Blaze215 @edgar14

this should not happen. Many games got low scores because they ran bad while in the review period even before the day 1 patch that fixed many of those problems

if they wanted the product to include this content they should have released the game with it.

this is a bit different though. It’s not like Bungie or media outlets are hiding anything like the game running bad. The game could literally be played for free for a whole weekend by everyone. Most outlets and youtubers already posted a preview or hands on. There’s nothing technical or game breaking they are hiding. It’s just because of the nature of the extraction genre, an important part of this game is unavailable at the start due to people needing to upgrade and collect loot first.

So if you want a review for the full things you’ll have to wait, and in the meantime there are dozens of preview articles covering the game so far. Even Push Square is refering to their hands on article

@Blaze215 Why lose trust when they are being totally transparant and explaining their reasons. They say you can refer to their hands on article that covers the game so far. But due to the nature of extraction shooters the end game isnt available at start because people still need to collect loot. So they decided to wait for that.

I understand peoples frustration, but to me they are being upfront and honest about it, that’s sufficient enough for me to not be so mad about it. And if i need reviews i can look for them elsewhere.

Just as an fyi for everyone that is interested, its does have a 91% Very Positive rating on Steam by 4774 users and is currently scored 4,5 stars out of 5

People are just saying the same things now. Push Square already explains what they’re doing and why. And that there’s a hands on “review” that you can read in the meantime

@RoomWithaMoose Damn, you really hate that tortoise bro. Remind me to never mention that story when you’re around 😐

@cuttlefishjones Interesting theory, very plausible. Announcing your next main console via a short random tweet doesnt exactly scream confidence. Maybe these are indeed leftover strategies that need to be followed through because its already set in motion by the former executives. Could also be that they just want to tease it, to start up the hype. But then this all just seems too minimal for a next gen console announcement. Oh well, we’ll hear more about it next week

@Max_the_German @AdamNovice That’s a fair assessment. This might still indeed be a bit niche for some. However i think it might do a bit better this time though. I see much more interest in it, as people are more familiar with it this time around. And it has the full marketing and AAA production levels of a Sony first party title, while also being a bit forgiving than Returnal which might help attract more casual gamers

@AdamNovice Really think Saros will be a tough sell? Saros looks amazing to me, might even be a day one for me, and i hardly ever do that

@Northern_munkey Lol, alright. Nothing to see here folks! 😝

Always nice to see!

@Northern_munkey I think there mightve been a slight miss communication there. I meant i’m glad you like my toxically positive attitude, they dont like it so much where i work, as CEO of Playstation. Ok, lame jokes aside, i also really dont wanna know why people want this to fail. Its probably not deeper than knee jerk reactions anyway for most. I just let people enjoy what they want to, even if i dont like the same games.

Glad you’re enjoying the game btw mate, i’m actually hearing pretty good things, i might pick it up soon as well

@Northern_munkey Lol! Glad you like it, they didn’t like it so much at work, have the feeling i wont be CEO for long anymore 🫣

@Cherip-the-Ripper I’m not really comparing it though, i’m just saying that having more players than some of the most played games out there isnt exactly “DOA”, as some predicted this would be.

I’m not saying this means anything for the long term. But it’s not a bad start to be having numbers that equal and surpass some of the most popular games out there. Is that really such a crazy thing to say?

I’m sure you didnt miss all the people yelling Marathon is Concord 2. Well, Concord peaked with 697! players during its launch. I’m just saying, Marathon’s numbers aren’t bad at all

Crazy that this got announced via a tweet though. Playstation must have known about this, hence their timing of leaking out that they’re gonna stop porting to PC.

With so many people saying this gen should be longer, i really wonder if this a good decision from MS?

What does PC mean in this context though? Does it really mean Steam and all other PC storefronts? Or does it mean only Xbox/Windows PC? And if it does include Steam, i wonder how they’re gonna prevent it from totally cannibalizing their revenue.

I wonder how this will compete with Valve’s PC/console device? Seems like the Steam Machine might already beat them to the punch with a PC under the tv model, and probably be cheaper too by the looks of the specs.

Also, i wonder if PC players are even interested in going back to a fixed hardware model? Unless this will be (partly) upgradable? And would this even attract people that already have a gaming PC in the first place?

Many questions, and very curious to learn more, and also what the price will be. Seeing as they wont even subsidize the Series X 2TB model, which is already $800 and with the ongoing ram crisis, this console probably won’t be cheap

@OldGamer999 I dont know if this site’s polls is always indicative of real world results though. Might be, might not.

Meanwhile its the #1 best selling game on Steam and has 87K people playing it right now. Which is more than Marvel Rivals, Apex Legends, Overwatch, GTA5, Helldivers 2, Call of Duty, Battlefield 6 and DayZ.

And of course that doesnt include PS and Xbox numbers. All in all, i’d say that’s not a bad start. Certainly not DOA, as some predicted here

Why is rooting for it to fail so bad?

Basically they’re saying this needs to fail because they dont like it, and they don’t care if anyone else gets to enjoy it or not. That just sounds selfish and immature.

Why not let the people that want to play the game enjoy it. And if you’re not interested, just ignore it.

Sony is releasing multiple singe player games this year and have done so every year since launch, its not like they’re gonna stop doing so.

Is just weird to actively root for a game to fail, when there are clearly people that want to play it

I dont care if other people want to play it, because i dont, therefore it needs to fail. Am i doing this right?

@Jacko11

Such an ironic article, complains about something "so tame", yet proceeds to write and publish a 223 word piece about it 😂
IGN with the tame video 🤝🏻 PushSquare with the hypocrisy

Where’s the irony though?

@GirlVersusGame Oh i know. I’m just saying, in light of people saying that those Sony games felt samey. I kinda had the same feeling watching this gameplay footage of FH6

@arnoldlayne83 Lol, fair enough. But that can pretty much be said about Sony’s sequels as well. Only so much to change about Spider Man 2, it will still be set in New York and involve web swinging

I probably shouldnt say this, but in light of some here saying that Sony’s sequels feel a bit samey. I have to say, watching this gameplay, even if it looks pretty good, felt kinda….. samey 🫣

I honestly dont understand the little dig at this video. Yeah, it’s not that spectacular, but it seems like a perfectly reasonable first look gameplay trailer. And while i’m not particularly interested in Forza Horizon myself, i must say, it looks quite good.

Edit: I watched the whole thing now, and while i’ll stick to my comment, i do have to agree that the whole video is a bit tame 😅

@Leetware1 I’m not saying people can’t dislike these games. I’m saying the tone in gaming is so agressively negative most of the time.

It’s not about people saying hey, this aint for me. It’s people constantly hoping studios fail, yelling that everything needs to flop because they hate it, calling each other ponies or xbots, saying f* this studio, f* that publishers, close that studio, calling other people shills for liking a game they don’t like etc.

I think i’m allowed to complain even if i read comments, even if that seems weird to you. People complain about many thing they still choose to consume, like twitter, reddit, news, politics etc

Like you, i accept that this is part of these communities sometimes, but that doesnt mean i wont sometimes comment on it, as that’s how i feel about it

@Leetware1 Well, your instinct is wrong lol. I like gaming, so why wouldn’t i partake here. I’m not blaming anyone, i’m just making observations. Gaming communities can be some of the most negative and toxic hobby communities out there, but i deal with it, i guess i didnt know that i wasn’t allowed to express my observations here 🤐

@Dog_Biscuits I must confess, i have no idea what it would costs to maintain a PC launcher, so you might be right.

But if the costs are managable, and seeing as it doesnt cost that much to port a game to PC, than this might be a good middle ground without losing IPs to competing hardware and not to mention giving them 100% of the revenue instead of just 70% on Steam

I know i’ve suggested this before, and people were probably right in saying that it cant be done because the PC crowd doesnt want yet another launcher.

But if they had their own PC launcher, they would at least cater to the PC people that do wanna play PS games. And they circumvent the loophole of competing consoles being able to play their games through Steam.

Heck, if i were Sony i’d seriously consider that strategy

@Intr1n5ic Was just about to reply that to him. Excellent point, people often forget that this was their original plan as well, it just didnt work out like they wanted

Capcom is in the business of selling games, while Sony is in the business of selling systems.

Very important point, and one often overlooked by people arguing that Sony is throwing away revenue.

Great opinion piece btw, well done Sammy 👏🏼

@Northern_munkey Ikr, people might start calling me Herman Hulst from now on. We’re even both from Amsterdam, maybe it’s a culture thing. Or maybe smoking too much weed in formative years makes you extra toxically positive 🫣

@Boxmonkey You probably missed all the earlier articles, where they were bashing it in almost every article. Since then Bungie has managed to turn around perception a bit by releasing much better gameplay and trailers that some people liked. But apparently those people can’t express themselves or they’ll be called shills

@Propaperpusher

Because I can, you're probably like 16

That so ironic, especially when it’s followed by a post that i swear could've been posted by a 16 year old

@JayJ I just notice that people tend to be very negative and dramatic. Especially about games they dont even like or play. They even get toxic about it, yelling that the game or studio needs to close, even if other people seem to be liking it.

Just to be clear I’m not saying people cant have opinion that are negative, but when people are calling strangers online shills for liking a game, then some have really lost the plot. There’s so much toxic namecallling and abusive slurs thrown around in the gaming space that i dont think a comparison with football hooligans is that far fetched. Sorry if i come across toxic to you. But i find it very worrysome that you find my comment toxic, but can totally ignore all the toxicity in gaming communities

@Contimaloris

I wasn't calling you out for anything. My comment is referring to the developer

Oh my bad, man. It was the ‘strikes again’ part that got me lol

@Contimaloris If you read all the comments above, its certainly ironic that you call me out for toxic positivity, when this comment section is actually full of toxic negativity 😅

@Contimaloris @JayJ I wasnt just talking about this article though. It happens in almost every gaming discussion ive see. Pointing out that people in the gaming space tend to be negative isnt “toxic positivity”, im just observing a trend. And i’m certainly not trying to stifle anyone, people are free to critique all they want. It’s just the intensity of it all. Makes the average gamer come across as a football hooligan 😅

@ButterySmooth30FPS Lol, you’re not wrong 😅

Its crazy to me how much energy people spend on hating things in stead of enjoying the games they do like

@Propaperpusher There are so many incredible single player games out there, what’s holding you back? RE: Requiem just released. Why waste time hating on studios and games that you dont even like. I genuinely don’t get it

I genuinely wonder why the gaming demographic is so negative all of the time?

{%>|~€ this studio.
f*cking waste of time.
Good riddance!
I hate gaming
I hate cartoony graphics
I want single player, who f*ing wants this sh*t?!
F*ck Fortnite
F Sony
I hope [insert game] flops, because I hate it
I hate diversity
I hate everyone that likes live service
I hate remakes
If you like this game you’re a shill
F Xbox
I have nothing to play 😭
Flopcity
Floppity flop flop
I hope everything flops

There are literally thousands of studios out there, and hundreds or thousands of games releasing every year. There’s something there for everyone. But people come here like they’re coked up or something, yelling things like ‘i hope these mf#%*ing studios close 🤬😬’

I’m paraphrasing of course, but damn. Every day i come here just to be bombarded by negativity, doesnt matter the topic

Cool to see that this content is free. Unfortunately i was too busy this weekend to get around to the server slam. Really curious to see those reviews. Anyone know when the embargo lifts?

And i can see the point of resets. If there were no resets, it would be too hard for newcomers to dive in later, because some would already be too powerful/upgraded

@Fluberuper Probably anything not God of War related lol

It’s not the best first impression, but also not really an indicator for the quality of the show per se. Curious what the first trailer will look like. A high budget production God of War series has so much potential, so i’m excited. Although i wished they did the Greek mythology first, that would be epic