LogicStrikesAgain

@Max_the_German

As SIE, I wouldn’t be happy. And I‘m sure there WILL be discussions why it didn’t perform better

I’m pretty sure Sony is happy with that spot. I cant imagine they assumed GoY would sell more than the usual top selling games like GTA, Minecraft, CoD, and the yearly sports games etc.

Heck they even sold more than the GOTY winner in the US. And considering their game released only 3 months ago, in the 10th month of the year, but still managed to get so many downloads is very good (not to mention GoY got a physical release, so many copies arent event counted in this top download list)

@UltimateOtaku91 My bad bro. If you mean that the added monthly retro titles aren’t to your liking, then that’s totally fair

@LifeGirl Honestly, i agree. People are entitled to their opinion, but hearing people sometimes trash this service seems so unreasonable. Paid yearly this service costs just $13/month!

@UltimateOtaku91 This is exactly what i mean. Premiums offering isnt a joke. For $2 or $3 more you get a classics library of around 400-500 titles, a rotating library of around 100 movies, a small VR library, 4K streaming, streaming to pc and the portal and at least one retro game per month.

For the people thinking their offering is a joke, what do you say they could realistically add more for that small price increase?

For everyone’s fyi, Sony never said they’d be adding 10 retro games a month or something. For that small price increase from extra i think its unreasonable to expect more that 1-2 titles a month (on top of everything else premium offers)

@get2sammyb Isnt the context here that Premium is only $2 or $3 more than Extra? And you get 4K streaming on console, streaming to pc and handheld, a library of ps1, ps2, psp, ps3 games and at least one retro game each month? (Last year, many months saw 2 retro games added to premium, some months even 4)

Considering $2 or $3 likely isnt even enough to cover the cost of the streaming servers etc, personally i think it’s a pretty good offering for that small increase of money.

Unless you were talking about the context of there being an arcade version of this game in stead of the fact that they added only one game this month to premium…

I’ve read somewhere that the only reason this isnt day and date on Playstation is because the studio just isnt ready with the port yet, or else it would be. I wonder how much of a gamble it is to not have this day and date.

Although, it’ll probably still sell well if it releases to Playstation later this year. But looking at FH5 sales on Playstation, they are undoubtably bummed they could not release it simultaneously, especially with the competition it’ll have later in the year.

Somehow i feel that they might still surprise us with a day and date release, but if not, i think September is a likely release month

@Grumblevolcano Maybe you’re right, maybe these services should be offered more on a la carte basis instead of offering packages with things people might not want or need

Isnt Premium only $2 more than Extra? So for that small increase you get 4K streaming on console, streaming to pc and handheld, a library of ps1, ps2, psp and ps3 titles and a monthly game.

But people want more? I think the $2 or even $3 dollars more isnt even enough to cover the cost of running the streaming servers, let alone for adding a game each month. I truly wonder if people ran their own business if they would be as generous with their product? If you’re not a retro gamer or dont use streaming, then dont pay the extra $2, but you dont have to call this service trash.

Things cost money you know. Trust me im no fan of capitalism, but i understand the logic of businesses needing to make money, this is not some charity. Sometimes i feel people are very unreasonable or just dont understand the cost of things

The more certain and with less nuance one speaks the less they usually understand. It’s maddening trying to talk sensibly to some people here.

Edit: And honestly i think the mods can do much better in fostering a productive conversation. And to be clear, that doesnt mean censoring anything that isnt pro Sony, far from it. But constantly calling everyone on this site “plastic box lovers” who dont have any nuanced opinions, im sure, is zapping a lot of the enthousiams some fans have in participating in these comment sections.

But if the mods here are struggling to discern good faith discussion from straight trolling, then thats a real issue.

And if there’s an opening, i’d like to volunteers as moderator, no joke

What is it with people today, does anyone still have any sense around here? Its like a dense jungle of cognitive dissonance, bias and poor reasoning skills

@Leinad7 When discussing Sony studios games, of course those game will be included. Why? Because they’re Sony studios game.

We werent talking about personal preference or anything, you seem to get these two things conflated. If i were to list all Xbox studios games, i cant just leave out everything im not interested in, and say that those games dont count

@Leinad7

Did you just use Marathon and MLB to prove Sony is releasing games this year? Duuuude…

We we’re talking about Xbox and Sony studios games, thats why i mentioned them. Or do they not count as Sony studios games because you don't like them?

Why is this site overrun with anti Sony sentiment? Can’t say anything around here anymore without getting policed

@darylb24 Lol, i’m not saying Microsoft doesnt make money, and i get that they make more from every sale. That’s not my point though, it’s the phrase that he used.

It seems like some people dont quite understand what the phrase “making money off someone” means. Sony doesnt have to change or fund anything when Microsoft puts its games on Sony’s ecosystem. That’s like saying EA is making money off of Sony, or a store owner makes money off the building owner just for selling in their building, it doesnt make sense.

When you say that Microsoft is making money off of Sony it implies that Sony is taken advantage of or something. Rather they are making money with Sony.

And if we really had to insist on one company making money off of the other, i’d say it’s Sony, because they are just cashing in without taking any risk.

But this has become a whole semantics discussion. So, lets just leave it at that. Geez, and they say i’m triggered 😅

@11001100110zero

Don't get upset.

Lol

I read some of the first sentence you wrote. Idk if the rest was good.

Oh it’s better than good 😏

@11001100110zero Lol, i’m not triggered. You’re the one randomly calling me “little one”.

Im not saying Sony makes more money on each sale. I dont even know why you bothered with that obvious calculation. You’re arguing against something i never even said.

My point was just about the wording you used. I’m not a native English speaker , but saying Microsoft is making money off of Sony implies that Sony is being taken advantage off, which is not the case.

Microsoft funds the games and Sony gets their cut risk free, making money off of Microsoft, rather than the other way around

As for the game, i’m not really interested. The only Xbox game i have been interested in is Fable. Excited to see more of it in the upcoming Direct

@OldGamer999

Looks like Xbox studios is giving PlayStation a lot more love than Sony studios games wise in 2026.

Lol dude, the year has just begun. We’re still getting Saros, Marathon, Marvel Tokon, MLB, Wolverine, and perhaps more from Playstation Studios. In addition, Sony also shows Playstation love by publishing or getting exclusives like Phantom Blade Zero, Nioh 3, Cairn, Chronoscript, Zero Parades, 4Loop, Loulan: The Cursed Sand etc.

Edit: And exactly as Oram77 said, they have like double the studios, and since all their games seem to be coming to PS5, it’s only natural to see more Xbox studios games on Playstation 😉

@11001100110zero

Damn dude, Xbox is making a killing off of sony lol.

Off of Sony? I think you have it the other way around. Microsoft is the one that invested money in these games. Sony is the one making a killing of off Microsoft’s games 😅

@SMJ @ElectricWizard

Can't have an Xbox related article without an obligatory jibe.

No they're not necessary. But this site does enjoy whipping up the fanboys.

Ordinarily, we’d leave this news to our friends at Pure Xbox, but such is the state of Microsoft these days, we can be assured practically all of the software it shows will be coming to the PS5.

They’re just saying that normally they wouldnt be covering it, but since the state of Microsoft today is that their games are coming to PS5, they will be covering it.

You’ll tend to find negative intent in things, if thats what you’re really looking for though.

And i even understand why they preempt it with that, because as you can see in the comment section above, some are already mad that they are covering “Xbox” news.

Ironically, its comments like yours that tend to stir up console wars more than the article itself

@11001100110zero Don’t mind the rant at all, especially from a fellow adhd mind. Nice to see other audiovisual fans here, not many of us around bro, i respect that. I just watched a blu ray a couple of days ago. I still have a 600 dvd and blu ray collection. And you’re right, streaming definitely doesn't reach the same bitrates as a disc. But the Kalaidascape thing sounds very cool, i have never heard of it before.

I will have to respectfully disagree about Playstation putting their IP’s on Xbox though. Some people might not consider them competition anymore, but they’re not out of the game. They are still here, and still planning on releasing consoles as a direct competitor to Sony.

Personally, i would advise Sony to not do something as foolish as porting their IP’s over. Microsoft is still the richest company in the world, and Sony is just small fries compared to them. So to give away one of the advantages they have in this business wouldnt be a smart move in my opinion

Thats actually good, always thought late 2028 would be better.

But yeah this whole RAM shortage fiasco sucks

@BAMozzy You really didnt need to explain all the ways Netflix is available, i think we all understand that. But the discussion here is about whether exclusive content is desirable, not about the accessibility of these products. What you’re describing are delivery mechanisms of two different products. Netflix doesnt need a device to render its movies in realtime. That is about streaming vs local play. Of course you can’t expect to play a videogame locally on all televisions. Streaming Playstation isalso possible on console, PC and a Sony handheld, and probably on more devices like tv’s and mobile in the future.

But consoles are also meant to play games locally, so of course its going to be more expensive upfront and be available on fewer devices compared to movie streaming, so i dont understand why you keep comparing their modes of delivery, because that’s not really what we’re talking about.

This discussion is about exclusive content itself and whether thats desirable or not. This isnt about on which devices something runs on. You’re making a whole different point. Both need hardware to be played on. But whether you already own the hardware doesnt change the fact that this discussion is about the desirability of exclusive content.

And whether you agree with it or not, exclusive content, whether thats Netflix, HBO, Prime or Apple’s exclusive shows, Playstations and Nintendos exclusives, Spotify exclusives or podcasts, DLSS for Nvidia GPUs, Apple apps, even fastfood burgers or brand specific car tech and all forms of exclusive content, it does differentiate, give their ecosystems character and make their brands or “platforms sing” in the words of Shawn Layden

@BAMozzy

You are 'forced' to buy a Playstation to play Sony's games or 'go without

The difference between say Netflix vs Apple or Amazon Prime is that those 'services' are not Hardware dependent

Sorry to butt in there, but the issue isnt about Netflix being hardware dependent or not. The issue is, you have to pay to get acces to Netflix’s exclusives. On which device the media is consumed isnt relevant to this point, they both require payment to access exclusive content. So the analogy with exclusive games still stands, because both lock exclusive content behind payment. But make no mistake, both ‘force’ you to pay if you want acces to their exclusive content.

So saying Sony ‘forces’ and Netflix doesnt because it’s accessible on many devices isnt an accurate conclusion. They just have different ways of delivery and payment models.

The funny thing is, a lot of people have maybe 2 or 3 movie streaming services, each costing around $15 or so each month. And all those services have exclusives content that they want, but somehow that is considered normal. But having exclusive games for a platform is an issue.

Regarding pricing, sure gaming requires an upfront cost of hardware if you want to play locally. But consider that many people have 2 or 3 movie streaming subscriptions, paying around $420 ($35monthly) a year. Thats about the cost of a console, but paid yearly, and indefinitely.

Not to mention the fact that if you unsubscribe those streaming services you end up with nothing at all. So lets say you paid for those streaming services for 7 years (about 1 console generation), you paid $2940 and end up with nothing.

Meanwhile, after 7 years you still own the console hardware, you own your games if you bought them physically. Heck, you can even sell everything and make back some of your money

I have no problems with exclusivity. Exclusivity is competition. Some of y’all act like its some evil practice or something.

People dont realize that if all platforms just played the same exact games we’d end up with just one console. There wouldnt be any competition, just a monopoly.

Sony’s first party exclusives make up like 0.5% of all the games out on the platform. Why do people make such a big issue about a few exclusives, when its just a tiny percentage of the vast majority of multiplat games. And some of the best games of all time have been exclusives. That’s what you can achieve if you put all time and resources and focus on getting the best out of one platform.

No one seems upset by Netflix or other streaming services having exclusive shows, but in the console space some are always morally outraged. when in reality it’s really just about a handful of games. If you want to play all games, there’s always the option to buy a PC

@MrStark

there's no competition in the simulator racing genre.
How many players were GT5 and 6 pulling monthly back on PS3? Nowhere near as many. That's because Forza Motorsport 3 and 4 were exceptional simulator racing games that commanded attention.

It's easy to sell well when you're the only game in town.

That’s kind of downplaying how good this game is. GT7 is also generally considered a way better game than GT5 and GT6 were in their days. It’s not because GT7 the only game in town, it’s because it is one of the best today. There are still other options like Forza Motorsport 8 and Asseto Corsa.

It’s funny how GT7 sometimes doesnt get acknowledged as a live service, especially by people who are usually very loud about not wanting Sony to succeed in the space.

However, the fact that its always online, constantly being updated on a regular basis and has ongoing rotatig events makes its a true live service game, and a succesful one at that.

The fact that its not f2p or doesnt have battle passes might be what confuses people here, but make no mistake live service has many different forms, and this is definitely a live service title whichever way you slice it.

Polyphony just made it so it isnt as obnxious as other live service titles, so kudos to them!

The saving grace for PS5 as a console is GTA 6

And the exaggaration award goes to 😜

@truerbluer

This would imply the Switch/Switch 2 will be the baseline hardware for their games moving forward.

You think because of the things you mentioned, that implies Capcom, Square Enix and Sega will make the Switch their baseline hardware moving forward?

I dont think it implies that tbh, but i respect your opinion

@Wardenknight133

Also, not surprised that the most liked comments in this article are all in favor of crunch..

Understanding the need for it in a specific case, is different than being in favor of it as a common practice.

Can't wait for another article on here where the top comments are stuff like "I love AI replacing real people!" or "Layoffs are totally wicked!" or "CEOs totally deserve a higher pay than actual hard-working employees!"

I want to believe that’s intentional hyperbole. I’m sure you know that’s just a total mental leap you’re making. As if people who have an opinion about this, will automatically think CEO’s deserve more pay or that layoffs are totally wicked.

I'll just stick to Sucker Punch and Santa Monica

Who’s to say thay they dont do crunch periods once in a while as well? No studio, even SP and SM, is immune to deadlines, and if deadlines are in danger ofnot being met or missed, even those studios hve to fix that to get back on track. Heck, this isnt even a problem in game development alone, this is seen all over the tech industry and many other industries.

Edit: None of this means i condone it btw, i’m just calling out people’s indignation about this specific studio, this studio is definitely not some evil outlier.
I really hope we can change work culture, bt unfortunately this still happens everywhere from tech to healthcare, and its a sign of a broken system rather than one studios fault

@truerbluer

you've got companies like Capcom, Sega and Square Enix now prioritising Switch/Switch 2 instead of PS5

I agree with the rest of your comment except for this sentence. Are they really prioritising the Switch in stead of the PS5 now? I might have genuinely missed these developments, but i havent seen or heard anything like this happening

Am i the only one thinking they’re not doing sobad. I mean, it could definitely be better, but they already sold 7m+ PS5’s and the generation isnt even over yet. That’s around 6% over the total population of Japan (which has the oldest population in the world btw, with around 30% over 65 years old)

A quick search says they’ve sold about 27m PS5’s in the US today, that’s about 8% of the country.

I think the country’s population age demographic is not really being taken into consideration here, and seeing as Japan has the oldest population in the world, 6% of the population doesnt seem so bad

Not that i’m condoning anything, but if you miss several deadlines, you will have to crunch a bit to get things on schedule. Is that different where you guys work?

Anyway, hope they get back on track soon, and stay on it

@yellowdog05

They haven’t had anything to show since the Last of Us Part 2

They remade the Last of Us 3 years ago, regardless of what you think of that title that is something they released.

Also, even if we go by 5 years, those are still pretty normal development timelines for AAA games nowadays

@Nem

this studio hasn't put out a new game in 7 years

Not true, The Last of Us 2 released 5 years ago and Last of Us remake released 3 years ago.

and the studio is now at risk of closure

Uh? No

PS6 gen for sure, if i had to guess i’d say 2028

@RoomWithaMoose Fair enough man, i understand you’re a fan of the IP and i respect that. I like the franchise as well, I just dont think it’s necessarily geared towards console gamers.

Mobile games’ mechanics are generally very different from console games. Usually free to play and riddled with mtx, and graphically, well they obviously dont really come close.

But if its any consolation, Insomniac is rumoured to release a Ratchet and Clank sequel for console around 2029/2030 i believe, so they might be working on an R&C title as we speak 🤞🏼

@Wentos My bad, didnt know it was a reference lol

@RoomWithaMoose

I'm not morally outraged by this, or anything. But, it's hard to get excited about what is effectively Ratchet & Clank Lite

But, presumably, this is for the markets that are playing CoD Mobile and the likes nonstop

Ofcourse it is, not even presumably. This is definitely not targeted to consoles gamers per se. Mobile games are always “lite” versions of a game. The mobile market is a seperate beast from consoles

Also can't see myself ever starting this up instead of Halo, Team Fortress 2, Overwatch, Splatoon, or any of my other go-to competitive shooters.

Are these also mobile versions? Or do you mean the console/pc games? Because Ratchet and Clank mobile isnt meant to compete with any of those

@Wentos Why would you want them to release their mobile games on PS5? Would you rather play a mobile version of MLB in stead of the console version? Have you seen how that looks? Not hating on mobile games or anything, but i sure hope they keep these games seperate.

Also, as stated above, everyone will be able to play this on their phones so no one is being gated

People sure like to create drama where there isnt. I’ve been out of the fighting game genre for a while so i may be out of the loop here, but are they supposed to announce every character before the game releases? Does anyone really expect there will only be 8 character in the full game because they havent announced anything yet?

And isnt it true for every fighting game thay they want it simple enough for casuals to enjoy, but deep enough for hardcore fans to master it? Isnt this what these closed beta’s are for? For them to refine and balance the gameplay. I dont know, it all seems like a pretty normal developer statement to me, people just like to add drama to it

I think it looks cool and i’m curious and cautiously optimistic especially reading some of reactions to the latest beta. Price is good as well.

I just want a good fps from Sony again. I wish they’d revive the Killzone franchise, but until then i hope this turns out good.

“Marathon's Rewards Passes will not expire, and you’ll be able purchase and unlock prior Passes," it reveals.”

That’s definitely good. Wasnt that what people disliked about Destiny 2? At least they’re not going to pull that sh*t anymore.

Edit: I just watched the 23 min deep dive video, and i’m actually way more excited about it now. The world and backstory seems very interesting! The gunplay looked good and satisfying, the graphics seem better than initial showings. There’s this cool gameplay feature where bodies that are killed stay where they are, and slowly decay, so if there’s a fresh body on the floor you know that the enemy might still be close by.

All in all, i’m pretty excited about the game now

Love it! Happy holidays everyone ❤️🎄

1. Wolverine
2. GTA6
3. Marvel Tokon
4. Saros
5. Resident Evil 9
6. Phantom Blade Zero
7. Control Resonant
8. Chronoscript
9. Marathon (release month confirmed, just saw the deep dive, and it actually got me pretty excited about it)

I dont know if the God of War 2.5D game is real and if it will release in 2026, but i’m also interested in that one. Also curious to see that Horizon co op game

@TrollOfWar My comment was actually in reference to a comment here that implied they thought this was a new exclusivity deal, but it’s already been rectified

Why are some acting so surprised about it’s exclusivity? We already knew this would be a console exclusive from the start

This has Humanity vibes all over, and i love it! I wonder if this is from the same developer as Humanity. Definitely keeping an eye out on this one

@Northern_munkey i get what you’re saying. Just to clarify where i’m coming from, i think that the term fanboy comes across as a negative description. Like a fan, who is overly obsessed and talks negatively about others who dont share their opinion, usually incapable of having civil and nuanced arguments without using ad hominems. I wouldnt describe you as a fanboy. Some on here are genuine fans, just reasonable people, and some definitely cross that territory of toxic fanboy behaviour though.

Its kinda like in the sports world, you have regular fans enjoying supporting a team, and you have “fans” who are starting fights on the parking lot

@get2sammyB I’m not sure if the mods can say anything about this, but i just wanna mention that its getting kind of tiring that some comment sections are overrun by negativity and ridicule aimed at the site’s own fan base.

Just to be clear, yes, i’m a fan. Not a “fanboy” that attacks people for their preferences or goes on long tirades to defend a company, or cant have a mature and civil discussion about video games because they take things way too personally. I genuinely enjoy respectful discussion about video games.

Unfortunately, some people that call others “fanboys” are displayjng the same behaviour they claim to dislike and it’s really affecting the quality of the discussion in my opinion.

Maybe like a reminder once in a while from the mod staff reminding that people should be respectful could help . Just my two cent

@Max_the_German Are you aware you’re on a Playstation fan site? I think you’d feel much more comfortable on a more neutral website, since you’re always so baffled by seeing people interested in what Sony does. That goes for a few others as well

So many games i liked:

• The Free Shepperd
• Badger (forgot the title)
• Fate of the Old Republic
• 4loop
• RE9
• Control Resonant!
• Gang of Dragons
• Forest 3 (This looked very interesting, but ended so abruptly without any info)
• Saros
• No Law
• Ace combat 8
• Nioh 3
• Phantom blade zero

But the highlight of the show was of course Highguard! 🙃 /s

Gudnight y’all