No one is saying the game doesn't look fun, everyone is saying it looks kinda stupid. There's little to no cohesion, it's just mindlessly placed floating platforms, rails, and speed pads in a semi realistic world that clashes with these objects and Sonic himself.
I'm more interested in the PS+ Deluxe tier that will be offered to regions without Streaming for a cheaper price. Honestly, I could care less about streaming games, but they're forcing me to if I want the classic library.
@weR1youR2Podcast Sony wouldn't rearrange their entire release schedule simply because of third party mismanagement. This points more towards Square picking a date around what Sony has planned.
I've already bought this game three times for two console generations and PC, what's a fourth. They better knock this out of the park though, the Trilogy has everyone ready to pile on.
@FatallyYours117 What are you on about? DEVELOPMENT has nothing to do with production and takes place years before entering a production phase. Years before a Chinese factory has the designs from DEVELOPMENT to produce any product.
PLANNING IS DEVELOPMENT. What a joke of a conversation. To be so dense to think that all R&D have on the PS5 successors are a couple notes on paper is absurd. Goodbye.
@FatallyYours117 There is a difference between development and production. Research and Development happens whether or not a finalized product is produced.
To honestly believe that Mark Cerny and the rest of the R&D division of Playstation aren't preparing for future revisions or successors is ridiculous.
@FatallyYours117 These consoles were well into development before the PS5 even shipped, even the PS6 at this point is in its R&D phase. The Ps4 had slim and pro models by year 3 and we're already cruising through year 2.
Honestly, as much as I believe that gaming is for everyone and that games should be as accessible as possible, there is a point where a game becomes cheapened and less rewarding because the common folk are reaching the same heights as those who are dedicated to overcoming the games challenges.
After a year I'm still not used to these load times yet, they're insane. Just coming off of Horizon I'd still catch myself reaching for my phone when I'd fast travel only for it to load before I could even lift my hand.
@ShogunRok That's probably it, from what I've played multiple times it was very location to location linear fetch quests and battle. Wish they'd structure the games more like the early Digimon Story games, even though they were kinda Pokemony.
Glad it will have a focus in the Digimon world, for whatever reason I've failed multiple times to connect with Cyber Sleuth. The characters and setting just weren't my jam, maybe it gets better after the first 8 hours.
Just got my platinum last night, solid 9+.
Edit// Been seeing a lot of comments around about bugs, I can't relate. 65+ hours on PS5 and the only bug I experienced was a wonky shadow on Aloy during a cutscene, other than that not a single hiccup.
Sounds like I'll be an Extra boy, not a bad deal especially considering how deeply discounted the annuals usually are. Hopefully they'll have a cheap upgrade option for people like me who have their next couple years paid up.
I'm about a third through the game I suspect and haven't experienced anything weird, I think an NPC popped in once in the background during a cutscene, but other than that it's smooth on PS5.
Would love to see this tie into the comics somehow now that they're loosely connected. The open world reminded me of a lot of the open areas shown in the comics, again, loosely.
It should be illegal for them to use the tagline that it's based on true events. At best it was inspired by multiple serial killers and cherry picked tidbits of their true events.
This game was already low on my list, and after a year of non stop chatter about it I'm never touching it. So over it. Can't remember the last time a game overmarketed so hard that it killed it for me.
I'd bet Spidey will have the No Way Home suit on and that's the whole reason he was held back for so long. He was most likely supposed to come out earlier this year but filming was delayed last year pushing the movie way back.
My only gripe, and this is coming from being a amateur game developer, I don't think it's right to charge $10 extra for what is essentially turning up a dial on effects and resolution. I have no problem paying for what I believe is a good game, and it's extra content, but putting a game on it's ultra setting for $10 isn't something I'm interested in or think is an ethical business practice.
@Orpheus79V Character customization is confirmed, not creation. Even the trailer showed an example of the customization and showed only female models with a silver one being debatable.
The last 4 or so months have been absolute garbage. PlayStation is officially arrogantly coasting off their success and it shows. You can get any of these games in the bargain bin these days, they're not even trying.
This game looks incredibly fun, but the moment I seen Pearl Abyss I instantly lost interest. Knowing them this'll be another platform for their pay to win microtransactions.
I'm so jealous of the players that can find hundreds of hours of game time in this game. It's easily one of my favorite games, but it's like Minecraft in my eyes, I get to a point were I'm self sustaining and I lose interest, then a new update comes out and I'm back for a dozen more hours.
Couple this with a dock attachment for the PS5 and I could see this being a hit. The concept of the Vita being a controller was one of the coolest ideas that I wish they'd try again.
I can't wait to see this dumpster fire of a game. I feel bad for the "studio", they haven't been able to produce more than an asset flip after all these years and now the whole world is watching them set themselves up for failure.
@ShogunRok From the sound of things it looks like a next holiday sort of deal, but the last year and a half has thrown out the usual way of approaching rumors and speculation so who knows.
Didn't Yoshi-P also say that they want the next announcement to be one that'll be of high enough quality that you'll want to buy it and be able to shortly after?
Could be wrong, I keep seeing people link to this translator: https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1413723873519050753
I'll gladly pay for an upgrade to the edition of the game with more content. What pisses me off is the fact that they're locking the next gen version of the game behind a paywall.
I'm super biased because platformers are my number 1, but I'd give it a solid 9. I was constantly in awe and didn't really have any moments where I was bored even when getting the platinum. I'll save my reasons for it not being a 10 to not spoil it for others.
There is one thing all these overwhelmingly high praised fan demos have in common and I hope SEGA has taken note, they are all momentum based. After Sonic Adventure they seem to have forgotten the whole fun of Sonic wasn't his speed, it was the weight he carried at those speeds and it was felt on slopes, if you hit a roll at the right angle you could achieve speeds not possible running.
@LiamCroft Those are valid for sure, but than there's the stuff like why hasn't any third parties stopped Hasan from digging this hole? Why haven't any journalist contacted Sony, Konami, or even Kojima for comment? Why did Sony give Abandoned a blog spot when indie studios with no prior releases have to show proof of their games near completion to even begin to be weighed and considered for mention let alone a full page article. Also, why is Hasan who is a complete nobody to the world verified on PSN?
You're 100% right, none of this makes any sense. There is so much that doesn't add up for Hasan or Abandoned to be anything more than what they are, but there's just as much to make you tilt your head and wonder if they are more.
@LiamCroft It's just as much a stretch to say he's playing semantics as it is to say he's a partner. Inaccuracy be damned, those are the facts until proven otherwise. Though, I do agree he's not to be believed.
Can't wait to see this dumpster fire this week. I genuinely feel bad for the dude, he set himself up for failure from the beginning. You can make the argument it was the fans that set themselves up but there are dozens of time he fanned the flames responding to tweets. Like telling someone his team doesn't know if they're working on Silent Hill yet.
Here's hoping it's Kojima though, that'd be hilarious. =]
@CKFilms I'm still like 60/40 against it, but my goodness is it odd. The fact that a nobody of a studio with a very poorly rated delisted horror game under their belt has been working with Sony since 2015 after a mysterious investor approached them, and he can't say why or how, while also getting a spot on the Playstation blog, a first of its kind experimental app on PS5 for their real time interactive trailers, and Geoff Keighley's full support on a first name basis with Hasan is too odd. Hasan also works for a game studio called CreateQ and refers to that studio as "us" and Bluebox as a third party. I feel delusional just talking about it, it's such a weird rabbit hole.
I feel bad for this studio if they aren't Kojima. The only reason this game has any attention is because of Kojima and once it comes out he's not involved this game will fail out of their spite. That's not even accounting for all the harassment they'll receive.
Don't forget one page before the screenshot Geoff Keighley also said, "Just to set expectations, I honestly don't think this is what you guys think it is". Keighley loves Kojima's schemes so it could go either way in my opinion.
The one thing I'll never understand about japanese games is the sub genre of games like these that just mesh together a bunch random nonsense. Not that it's a bad thing as it's just a fun way to make a spin off for fans, it just doesn't appeal to me even for series I enjoy like Zelda that has Hyrule Warriors and it just falls flat for me.
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Re: Sonic Frontiers Dev Confident People Will 'Understand' the Game, No Plans for a Delay
No one is saying the game doesn't look fun, everyone is saying it looks kinda stupid. There's little to no cohesion, it's just mindlessly placed floating platforms, rails, and speed pads in a semi realistic world that clashes with these objects and Sonic himself.
Re: PS Plus Premium's PS1 Games Can Have Trophies After All
@BeerIsAwesome That's my dream game to plat.
Re: Poll: Will You Subscribe to Sony's New PS Plus?
I'm more interested in the PS+ Deluxe tier that will be offered to regions without Streaming for a cheaper price. Honestly, I could care less about streaming games, but they're forcing me to if I want the classic library.
Re: State of Play Confirmed, Showcasing Third Party PS5, PS4 Games
20 minutes seems lite, better not expect anything too exciting.
Re: Forspoken Delayed from May to October 2022 on PS5
@weR1youR2Podcast Sony wouldn't rearrange their entire release schedule simply because of third party mismanagement. This points more towards Square picking a date around what Sony has planned.
Re: GTA 5's PS5 Controller Support Will Allow You to Feel the Weather, Road Surface
I've already bought this game three times for two console generations and PC, what's a fourth. They better knock this out of the park though, the Trilogy has everyone ready to pile on.
Re: Sony Ships Secret PlayStation Console Prototypes Overseas
@FatallyYours117 What are you on about? DEVELOPMENT has nothing to do with production and takes place years before entering a production phase. Years before a Chinese factory has the designs from DEVELOPMENT to produce any product.
PLANNING IS DEVELOPMENT. What a joke of a conversation. To be so dense to think that all R&D have on the PS5 successors are a couple notes on paper is absurd. Goodbye.
Re: Sony Ships Secret PlayStation Console Prototypes Overseas
@FatallyYours117 There is a difference between development and production. Research and Development happens whether or not a finalized product is produced.
To honestly believe that Mark Cerny and the rest of the R&D division of Playstation aren't preparing for future revisions or successors is ridiculous.
Re: Sony Ships Secret PlayStation Console Prototypes Overseas
@FatallyYours117 These consoles were well into development before the PS5 even shipped, even the PS6 at this point is in its R&D phase. The Ps4 had slim and pro models by year 3 and we're already cruising through year 2.
Re: Elden Ring Easy Mode Isn't Happening on PS5, PS4
Honestly, as much as I believe that gaming is for everyone and that games should be as accessible as possible, there is a point where a game becomes cheapened and less rewarding because the common folk are reaching the same heights as those who are dedicated to overcoming the games challenges.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Load Times are Dramatically Different Between PS5 and PS4
After a year I'm still not used to these load times yet, they're insane. Just coming off of Horizon I'd still catch myself reaching for my phone when I'd fast travel only for it to load before I could even lift my hand.
Re: New Digimon Story Game Still in Development
@ShogunRok That's probably it, from what I've played multiple times it was very location to location linear fetch quests and battle. Wish they'd structure the games more like the early Digimon Story games, even though they were kinda Pokemony.
Re: New Digimon Story Game Still in Development
Glad it will have a focus in the Digimon world, for whatever reason I've failed multiple times to connect with Cyber Sleuth. The characters and setting just weren't my jam, maybe it gets better after the first 8 hours.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Horizon Forbidden West?
Just got my platinum last night, solid 9+.
Edit// Been seeing a lot of comments around about bugs, I can't relate. 65+ hours on PS5 and the only bug I experienced was a wonky shadow on Aloy during a cutscene, other than that not a single hiccup.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy Elden Ring?
I have high blood pressure, not my thing.
Re: PS5, PS4's Revamped PS Plus Sub Allegedly Outlined in Report
Sounds like I'll be an Extra boy, not a bad deal especially considering how deeply discounted the annuals usually are. Hopefully they'll have a cheap upgrade option for people like me who have their next couple years paid up.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Update 1.05 Released, Here Are the Patch Notes
I've done the stuck in geometry thing a bunch, but that's my fault for trying to dive roll through every crack I see.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West's PS5, PS4 Visual Issues a High Priority, Patch Incoming ASAP
I'm about a third through the game I suspect and haven't experienced anything weird, I think an NPC popped in once in the background during a cutscene, but other than that it's smooth on PS5.
Re: Sonic Frontiers Takes Sonic to an Open World on PS5, PS4 in 2022
Would love to see this tie into the comics somehow now that they're loosely connected. The open world reminded me of a lot of the open areas shown in the comics, again, loosely.
Re: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre Is Another Asymmetrical Horror Game
It should be illegal for them to use the tagline that it's based on true events. At best it was inspired by multiple serial killers and cherry picked tidbits of their true events.
Re: The Lord of the Rings: Gollum Confirmed for Appearance at The Game Awards
That twitter announcement is sad, it's like they made it in an empty room.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 PS5 Version Aiming for Q1 2022 Release, Major Update Planned
I'm down, I've been waiting to come back all year after getting that Platinum last December.
Re: Spider-Man Will Have Some Pretty Cool Suits in Marvel's Avengers on PS5, PS4
That's cool, but they're not worth the $100+ they'll cost.
Re: PS Plus Members in Asia Receive Free Bonus PS4 Game for October
That would've been way better than Mortal Kombat...
Re: JUMANJI Tie-In Getting PS5 Exclusive Re-Release
It's days like these that give me a real sense of pride for my PS5.
Re: Bethesda Heard You Want One More Deathloop Trailer Before Launch
This game was already low on my list, and after a year of non stop chatter about it I'm never touching it. So over it. Can't remember the last time a game overmarketed so hard that it killed it for me.
Re: Marvel's Avengers' PS5, PS4 Exclusive Spider-Man Swinging By This Year
I'd bet Spidey will have the No Way Home suit on and that's the whole reason he was held back for so long. He was most likely supposed to come out earlier this year but filming was delayed last year pushing the movie way back.
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Know How to Feel About This PS4-to-PS5 Upgrade Uproar
My only gripe, and this is coming from being a amateur game developer, I don't think it's right to charge $10 extra for what is essentially turning up a dial on effects and resolution. I have no problem paying for what I believe is a good game, and it's extra content, but putting a game on it's ultra setting for $10 isn't something I'm interested in or think is an ethical business practice.
Re: Saints Row Deep Dive Seeks to Allay PS5, PS4 Reboot Concerns
@Orpheus79V Character customization is confirmed, not creation. Even the trailer showed an example of the customization and showed only female models with a silver one being debatable.
Re: Rumour: PS Plus September 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Leaked Ahead of Official Reveal
The last 4 or so months have been absolute garbage. PlayStation is officially arrogantly coasting off their success and it shows. You can get any of these games in the bargain bin these days, they're not even trying.
Re: Saints Row Deep Dive Seeks to Allay PS5, PS4 Reboot Concerns
So no character creation? That sucks, I don't care about her story whatsoever.
Re: Black Desert Dev Pearl Abyss Turns to Pokémon for Next Project
This game looks incredibly fun, but the moment I seen Pearl Abyss I instantly lost interest. Knowing them this'll be another platform for their pay to win microtransactions.
Re: Biomutant Has Sold More Than One Million Copies Since Launch
I've heard nothing but bad things from my circles, is it really worth looking into? From the outside looking in I'd believe the stories.
Re: No Man's Sky Teases Its Next Big Update on Game's 5th Anniversary
I'm so jealous of the players that can find hundreds of hours of game time in this game. It's easily one of my favorite games, but it's like Minecraft in my eyes, I get to a point were I'm self sustaining and I lose interest, then a new update comes out and I'm back for a dozen more hours.
Re: Get Double Crowns, Exclusive Cosmetics as Fall Guys Celebrates First Anniversary
Haha, that explains the happy birthday store items, and here I was thinking they were just being thoughtful of my birthday on the 8th.
Re: With the Steam Deck Announced, This Is What a Next-Gen PSP Could Be
Couple this with a dock attachment for the PS5 and I could see this being a hit. The concept of the Vita being a controller was one of the coolest ideas that I wish they'd try again.
Re: Abandoned PS5's Realtime Trailer App Renamed Realtime Experience App
I can't wait to see this dumpster fire of a game. I feel bad for the "studio", they haven't been able to produce more than an asset flip after all these years and now the whole world is watching them set themselves up for failure.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Won't Be at TGS 2021, But English Voice Recording Is Almost Complete
@ShogunRok From the sound of things it looks like a next holiday sort of deal, but the last year and a half has thrown out the usual way of approaching rumors and speculation so who knows.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Won't Be at TGS 2021, But English Voice Recording Is Almost Complete
Didn't Yoshi-P also say that they want the next announcement to be one that'll be of high enough quality that you'll want to buy it and be able to shortly after?
Could be wrong, I keep seeing people link to this translator:
https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1413723873519050753
Re: Reaction: Messy Ghost of Tsushima Upgrade Makes PS5 for the Payers
I'll gladly pay for an upgrade to the edition of the game with more content. What pisses me off is the fact that they're locking the next gen version of the game behind a paywall.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart?
I'm super biased because platformers are my number 1, but I'd give it a solid 9. I was constantly in awe and didn't really have any moments where I was bored even when getting the platinum. I'll save my reasons for it not being a 10 to not spoil it for others.
Re: Sonic Team's Hoping the Next Major Sonic Game Will Lay the Foundations for Franchise's Future
There is one thing all these overwhelmingly high praised fan demos have in common and I hope SEGA has taken note, they are all momentum based. After Sonic Adventure they seem to have forgotten the whole fun of Sonic wasn't his speed, it was the weight he carried at those speeds and it was felt on slopes, if you hit a roll at the right angle you could achieve speeds not possible running.
Re: Abandoned Dev Appears on Camera to Denounce Silent Hill, Hideo Kojima Speculation
@LiamCroft Those are valid for sure, but than there's the stuff like why hasn't any third parties stopped Hasan from digging this hole? Why haven't any journalist contacted Sony, Konami, or even Kojima for comment? Why did Sony give Abandoned a blog spot when indie studios with no prior releases have to show proof of their games near completion to even begin to be weighed and considered for mention let alone a full page article. Also, why is Hasan who is a complete nobody to the world verified on PSN?
You're 100% right, none of this makes any sense. There is so much that doesn't add up for Hasan or Abandoned to be anything more than what they are, but there's just as much to make you tilt your head and wonder if they are more.
Re: Abandoned Dev Appears on Camera to Denounce Silent Hill, Hideo Kojima Speculation
@LiamCroft It's just as much a stretch to say he's playing semantics as it is to say he's a partner. Inaccuracy be damned, those are the facts until proven otherwise. Though, I do agree he's not to be believed.
Re: Abandoned Dev Appears on Camera to Denounce Silent Hill, Hideo Kojima Speculation
@LiamCroft https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-21/what-is-blue-box-gamers-believe-it-s-hideo-kojima-s-silent-hill
Hasan says he signed a contract with Sony when interviewed by Jason Schreier yesterday. Its near the bottom. At the very least he's working with them, maybe not a full on partnership.
Re: Abandoned Dev Appears on Camera to Denounce Silent Hill, Hideo Kojima Speculation
Can't wait to see this dumpster fire this week. I genuinely feel bad for the dude, he set himself up for failure from the beginning. You can make the argument it was the fans that set themselves up but there are dozens of time he fanned the flames responding to tweets. Like telling someone his team doesn't know if they're working on Silent Hill yet.
Here's hoping it's Kojima though, that'd be hilarious. =]
Re: Hideo Kojima Fans Investigate PS5 Exclusive Abandoned, Reads Like Conspiracy Theories
@CKFilms I'm still like 60/40 against it, but my goodness is it odd. The fact that a nobody of a studio with a very poorly rated delisted horror game under their belt has been working with Sony since 2015 after a mysterious investor approached them, and he can't say why or how, while also getting a spot on the Playstation blog, a first of its kind experimental app on PS5 for their real time interactive trailers, and Geoff Keighley's full support on a first name basis with Hasan is too odd. Hasan also works for a game studio called CreateQ and refers to that studio as "us" and Bluebox as a third party. I feel delusional just talking about it, it's such a weird rabbit hole.
I feel bad for this studio if they aren't Kojima. The only reason this game has any attention is because of Kojima and once it comes out he's not involved this game will fail out of their spite. That's not even accounting for all the harassment they'll receive.
Re: Hideo Kojima Fans Investigate PS5 Exclusive Abandoned, Reads Like Conspiracy Theories
Don't forget one page before the screenshot Geoff Keighley also said, "Just to set expectations, I honestly don't think this is what you guys think it is". Keighley loves Kojima's schemes so it could go either way in my opinion.
EDIT// The more I read into to everything outside this article the more I'm on board with the theory.
https://twitter.com/BBGameStudios/status/1406057599339044867?s=20
Interesting tweet from Blue Box.
Re: Multiplayer Spin-Off Resident Evil Re:Verse Releases Next Month
The one thing I'll never understand about japanese games is the sub genre of games like these that just mesh together a bunch random nonsense. Not that it's a bad thing as it's just a fun way to make a spin off for fans, it just doesn't appeal to me even for series I enjoy like Zelda that has Hyrule Warriors and it just falls flat for me.
Re: Babylon's Fall Gets Smashed with Dislikes Upon Its Gameplay Return
It wouldn't surprise me if this game gets announced for mobile later.