@Nyne11Tyme 60m doesn't include marketing BTW so maybe double that at least. Also guessing ff16 budget isn't exactly proving a point. Also Also whatever you call a financial success, raw sales numbers still account for a lot and raw sales numbers dont add up to much.
My next console is going to be the steam machine which will make my ps5 redundant. I dont know if these rumours are true obviously but I can imagine Sony will be forced into this move because owning a console is ridiculous when you have the steam machine which has the best of both worlds
@TrollOfWar I completely understand why they are doing this. The point is maybe all the price hikes weren't necessary and we could actually be getting cheaper consoles 5 years into the ps5. So Sony is price gauging in areas where they can while making up excuses as to why they are hiking the price for customers that actually buy their products
So all these price hikes for the rest of the world were neccesary apparently but now they can massively discount it in Japan. Just another slap in the face for existing customers
@Northern_munkey you've said nothing wrong, the cope is insanely strong from a few people here. Its looking like it sold 1.6 million in its first week according to circana. Thats far fewer than GoT. The excuses like covid can come out over and over but it doesn't change the facts of the numbers being reported
Just wow, cannot fathom the disconnect between Sony and its fans. What will the output be of first party games for the ps6? My money says even worse than ps5
Really shows the how disappointing this gen has been just looking at the comments here. No excitement for a new console, I mean has the mood ever been this low before on news a new playstation console is on the horizon? I for one will wait until the pro version comes out before I decide if I am buying, I jumped too early with the ps5 and regret my purchase massively so I have learned my lesson.
@SeaDaVie my point is that physical sales of games in Japan are not 22% like you were insinuating when mentioning sonys worldwide software sales numbers and that the numbers reported on this article probably make up over half of overall sales of GoY
@SeaDaVie let's just take last year for an example since its the most recent full year.
There isn’t an exact public figure for PS5 physical vs digital sales in Japan for 2024, but based on available data we can make a pretty good estimate.
CESA’s 2022 industry report (summarized in several Japanese gaming outlets) showed that around 65% of PS5 game sales in Japan were physical at that time. Since then, digital adoption has grown globally and locally, and 2024 Famitsu charts show PS5 physical copies making up a much smaller slice of the overall market.
So a reasonable estimate for 2024 would be roughly 55% physical / 45% digital for PS5 game sales in Japan — possibly a bit lower depending on how you measure it.
Japan still leans more physical than Western markets which is what were are talking about here.
@SeaDaVie I disagree, going on the numbers we have which isn't much to be fair, I would speculate half Tsushimas sales or under. Not sure what data you are extrapolating your 10m plus prediction from
I used to buy a lot more in previous years but this year has only been exp 33. I would buy more but have absolutely no interest in the types of games coming out these days. This isn't nostalgia talking, games were so much more mechanically deeper and challenging before let's say, 2020 but probably even earlier than that really. It's just slop open world busy work, looter shooter or movie games these days. The gaming industry is being held up by a few tentplole giants such as cod and sports games but the bubble is going to burst when companies cant milk the super enthusiasts anymore
@DadJKP agree with you, massive oversimplification. Just because you call yourself something doesn't make it true. Can fool some though and thats the idea
Would love a sequel. The first was really good and the second improved basically all of the first games systems. Really impressive and in depth gameplay which still puts a lot of modern games to shame. Can't see a point in a remaster as they are already avaliable for ps5, a fresh coat of paint isn't gonna make me want to come back but ya, a sequel would be great.
I've been using my gaming PC to play ps1 games i missed out on as a kid. Started the suikoden series and love it. No interest in the vast majority of new releases these days
Very surprised at the survey results, at my time of checking only 52% said day one purchase. That's shockingly low for a playstation fan site. This game will be lucky to sell half of what GoT did. Could have been much more but it seems sucker punch have really changed these past few years and it's alienating a lot of potential customers.
This year is the first i have let my ps plus lapse since the ps3 days and I do not miss it one bit. Also spending extremely little on games this past year, just nothing of interest to me. Only new game I bought was exp 33, the other games I bought probably came to a combined total of 50 or 60 euro. Nothing for me in the near future is coming out either which is pretty disappointing because playstation always had games in the pipeline I looked forward to
The point i was making is do not take the reviews comments on the story being bland to heart. Other people might find it enjoyable. For example the review for veilguard mentioned how much they loved the story and characters. I can say for me personally and im sure many others that the story of veilguard was awful. So if a review mentions a story being bland in a game chances are, because of my taste, there's a good chance I will like it
@Jettstyles completely agree, as a European I've been seeing these price increases across the board post pandemic. The free money given out during that time has caused the rampant inflation we are living with now. But ya, orange man bad, tariffs are the cause, sure
Like many have said just wait til it's over and look at what was mentioned then. Is FOMO so bad people can't wait a few minutes after the show has finished? Don't complain about the slog of a show when you don't actually have to watch it.
This review score is incredibly generous. I know you can say 'this is the opinion of the reviewer don't take it to heart' but this is the score that will add to the metacritic average which can encourage companies to make the same mistakes in future. A review of a game that can get a 6 for just having good graphics/sound isn't a serious review.
These games are so tiring, battle pass, skins blah blah blah its all the same garbage and it just never ends does it. How can people get excited for a game that has been released dozens of times before. These games are just like fifa, same thing every time, slightly different look.
And also just to the point. If anyone is actually buying that they won't release these kinds of skins a few months after launch then I feel sorry for you, for you are truly lost.
@Gremio108 Hmm there actually was new ice knocking about. The ice caps grew significantly and famously even Londons river Thames froze for years. Yes it didnt last as long as normal ice ages, you could say it changed pretty quickly which is my point. Yes it wasn't caused by man. But you're certain that the climate change this time is caused by man? I have no doubt we have some affect on the climate but if you look into CO2 levels over the years (not just since 1901) you will see it was much higher many times in the past. Our contribution to climate change is miniscule in my opinion and from the evidence I have seen
@Gremio108 your point about the speed of change is false. There are many times in the earth's past where the climate changed just as fast as it is now. Google mini ice age for example which occurred in the early 14th century. Also the younger dryas around 12000 years ago.
Also just taking data from 1901 is very telling. Basically avoiding using a large enough data set to be accurate. That time frame is the blink of an eye geologically speaking.
I just hope that SE take lessons from metaphor, exp 33 and realise turn based is still alive and well for the next ff. If not then even as a lifelong ff fan I'm not buying it. 16s combat was mind numbingly boring
I will never commit to paying 80 euro a game besides like 1 or 2 exceptions. I can wait, there are so so many games in my backlog. I still haven't bought ratchet and clank and demons souls because i haven't seen them drop below 39.99 this generation. But they will eventually.
The problem is there are more and more people like me who either don't mind waiting or can't afford the price increases which is leading to less and less purchases on launch. It's a vicious cycle really and I can only see one outcome where a crash happens and a lot of big studios/publishers will go under
@KonstantTrouble if it's not regulated then I would have no trouble believing a big business would fudge the numbers. I havent heard this before but if true then that's pretty damning
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Re: Japanese Ghost of Yotei PS5 Sales Are Just About Hanging On
@SeaDaVie yes, I completely stand by that statement
Re: Japanese Ghost of Yotei PS5 Sales Are Just About Hanging On
@Nyne11Tyme 60m doesn't include marketing BTW so maybe double that at least. Also guessing ff16 budget isn't exactly proving a point. Also Also whatever you call a financial success, raw sales numbers still account for a lot and raw sales numbers dont add up to much.
Re: Japanese Ghost of Yotei PS5 Sales Are Just About Hanging On
@Megabeenz FF16 had 3 million sales in its first week and was considered a disappointment. For a sony AAA first party game 3.3 isn't good
Re: Huge PS Store Black Friday Sale Live Now with 1,900+ PS5, PS4 Offers
Struggling to see the difference between this and any other sale that is constantly on psn tbh. I guess the subs discount is different
Re: 'Very Vague' Rumour Claims Sony May Scale Back PC Ports of PS5 Games
My next console is going to be the steam machine which will make my ps5 redundant. I dont know if these rumours are true obviously but I can imagine Sony will be forced into this move because owning a console is ridiculous when you have the steam machine which has the best of both worlds
Re: Here's Why Sony Is Making a Japan-Specific PS5 Console
@TrollOfWar I completely understand why they are doing this. The point is maybe all the price hikes weren't necessary and we could actually be getting cheaper consoles 5 years into the ps5. So Sony is price gauging in areas where they can while making up excuses as to why they are hiking the price for customers that actually buy their products
Re: Here's Why Sony Is Making a Japan-Specific PS5 Console
So all these price hikes for the rest of the world were neccesary apparently but now they can massively discount it in Japan. Just another slap in the face for existing customers
Re: Ghost of Yotei Sales Fall Off In Japan, But PS5 Exclusive Still Sticks Around in Second Place
Not looking good for Yotei. Now for the inevitable ps5 bundle to pad the numbers
Re: Ghost of Yotei Is Sony's Biggest PS5 Launch Since Spider-Man 2 in Europe
@Northern_munkey you've said nothing wrong, the cope is insanely strong from a few people here. Its looking like it sold 1.6 million in its first week according to circana. Thats far fewer than GoT. The excuses like covid can come out over and over but it doesn't change the facts of the numbers being reported
Re: PS6 Release Date Touted for 2027, Cheaper But Less Powerful Than Next Xbox
@nomither6 sounds like a sound prediction.
God of war ragnarok has been out for a few years so must need remaster soon too 😂
Re: PS6 Release Date Touted for 2027, Cheaper But Less Powerful Than Next Xbox
Just wow, cannot fathom the disconnect between Sony and its fans. What will the output be of first party games for the ps6? My money says even worse than ps5
Re: PS6 Out 'in a Few Years' as Sony, AMD Discuss the Future of Games
Really shows the how disappointing this gen has been just looking at the comments here. No excitement for a new console, I mean has the mood ever been this low before on news a new playstation console is on the horizon? I for one will wait until the pro version comes out before I decide if I am buying, I jumped too early with the ps5 and regret my purchase massively so I have learned my lesson.
Re: Ghost of Yotei Follows in Tsushima's Footsteps, Dominates Japanese Charts on PS5
@DennisReynolds time will tell Dennis. If we see this getting bundled with ps5s en masse like forbidden west I'll know I was right
Re: Ghost of Yotei Follows in Tsushima's Footsteps, Dominates Japanese Charts on PS5
@SeaDaVie my point is that physical sales of games in Japan are not 22% like you were insinuating when mentioning sonys worldwide software sales numbers and that the numbers reported on this article probably make up over half of overall sales of GoY
Re: Ghost of Yotei Follows in Tsushima's Footsteps, Dominates Japanese Charts on PS5
@SeaDaVie let's just take last year for an example since its the most recent full year.
There isn’t an exact public figure for PS5 physical vs digital sales in Japan for 2024, but based on available data we can make a pretty good estimate.
CESA’s 2022 industry report (summarized in several Japanese gaming outlets) showed that around 65% of PS5 game sales in Japan were physical at that time. Since then, digital adoption has grown globally and locally, and 2024 Famitsu charts show PS5 physical copies making up a much smaller slice of the overall market.
So a reasonable estimate for 2024 would be roughly 55% physical / 45% digital for PS5 game sales in Japan — possibly a bit lower depending on how you measure it.
Japan still leans more physical than Western markets which is what were are talking about here.
Re: Ghost of Yotei Follows in Tsushima's Footsteps, Dominates Japanese Charts on PS5
@SeaDaVie I disagree, going on the numbers we have which isn't much to be fair, I would speculate half Tsushimas sales or under. Not sure what data you are extrapolating your 10m plus prediction from
Re: Ghost of Yotei Follows in Tsushima's Footsteps, Dominates Japanese Charts on PS5
Yes from these numbers it will sell half or under half of tsushima. Predicted this
Re: People Don't Buy Anywhere Near As Many Games As You Think
@DennisReynolds how do you have time to buy and play 3 games a month working 2 jobs??
Re: People Don't Buy Anywhere Near As Many Games As You Think
I used to buy a lot more in previous years but this year has only been exp 33. I would buy more but have absolutely no interest in the types of games coming out these days. This isn't nostalgia talking, games were so much more mechanically deeper and challenging before let's say, 2020 but probably even earlier than that really. It's just slop open world busy work, looter shooter or movie games these days. The gaming industry is being held up by a few tentplole giants such as cod and sports games but the bubble is going to burst when companies cant milk the super enthusiasts anymore
Re: Video: These 20 Games Have the Best Graphics on PS5
No ff7 rebirth? Can't take this list seriously
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Ghost of Yotei?
@DadJKP agree with you, massive oversimplification. Just because you call yourself something doesn't make it true. Can fool some though and thats the idea
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Ghost of Yotei?
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Re: Prototype Remaster Could Potentially Be Happening, Evidence Found in PC Version
Would love a sequel. The first was really good and the second improved basically all of the first games systems. Really impressive and in depth gameplay which still puts a lot of modern games to shame. Can't see a point in a remaster as they are already avaliable for ps5, a fresh coat of paint isn't gonna make me want to come back but ya, a sequel would be great.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles?
Debating on whether to play the psp version or this one....
Re: Even More Xbox Price Increases Make PS5 Look Like a Good Deal
@LuDaurre well said!
I've been using my gaming PC to play ps1 games i missed out on as a kid. Started the suikoden series and love it. No interest in the vast majority of new releases these days
Re: Borderlands 4 (PS5) - A Chaotic Return That Shoots Straight, Even if Its Performance Stutters
The perfect game to buy for 20-30 euro and play with the Mrs. when its all patched and actually complete 👌
Re: PS5 Exclusive Ghost of Yotei Is Just Two Weeks Away, So Here's a Gorgeous Cinematic Trailer
Very surprised at the survey results, at my time of checking only 52% said day one purchase. That's shockingly low for a playstation fan site. This game will be lucky to sell half of what GoT did. Could have been much more but it seems sucker punch have really changed these past few years and it's alienating a lot of potential customers.
Re: Latest Ghost of Yotei Trailer Is a Quick Hit Before PS5 Launch
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Re: Latest Ghost of Yotei Trailer Is a Quick Hit Before PS5 Launch
@Pditty1980
1) sorry didn't realise I can only reply positively.
2) I have my reasons
Re: Latest Ghost of Yotei Trailer Is a Quick Hit Before PS5 Launch
@Pditty1980 your asking why I commented about liking the previous game? Why bother commenting anything if thats your logic
Re: Latest Ghost of Yotei Trailer Is a Quick Hit Before PS5 Launch
Really loved ghost of tsushima. Will never ever buy this
Re: Square Enix Is Taking All Its Big Guns to TGS This Month
Square Enix, more like Square Remakes heh heh
I'll see myself out
Re: PS5's High Price Becoming a Serious Headache for Publishers
This year is the first i have let my ps plus lapse since the ps3 days and I do not miss it one bit. Also spending extremely little on games this past year, just nothing of interest to me. Only new game I bought was exp 33, the other games I bought probably came to a combined total of 50 or 60 euro. Nothing for me in the near future is coming out either which is pretty disappointing because playstation always had games in the pipeline I looked forward to
Re: Review in Progress: Lost Soul Aside (PS5) - Long Awaited Action Is Both Awesome and Awkward
The point i was making is do not take the reviews comments on the story being bland to heart. Other people might find it enjoyable. For example the review for veilguard mentioned how much they loved the story and characters. I can say for me personally and im sure many others that the story of veilguard was awful. So if a review mentions a story being bland in a game chances are, because of my taste, there's a good chance I will like it
Re: Review in Progress: Lost Soul Aside (PS5) - Long Awaited Action Is Both Awesome and Awkward
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Re: Metal Gear Solid Delta's Dismal PS5 Pro Support Could Use a Rethink
Every time I see PSSR I read 'pisser'. I can't unsee it 😂
Re: PS5 Price Increases Confirmed for USA, Effective 21st August
@Jettstyles completely agree, as a European I've been seeing these price increases across the board post pandemic. The free money given out during that time has caused the rampant inflation we are living with now. But ya, orange man bad, tariffs are the cause, sure
Re: Poll: How Would You Rate Gamescom Opening Night Live 2025?
Like many have said just wait til it's over and look at what was mentioned then. Is FOMO so bad people can't wait a few minutes after the show has finished? Don't complain about the slog of a show when you don't actually have to watch it.
Re: Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Enhanced (PS5) - Cinematic Spectacle Offers Little Else
@naruball really coming out to bat for this one eh. Im not sure this is the hill you want to die on 😂
Re: Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Enhanced (PS5) - Cinematic Spectacle Offers Little Else
This review score is incredibly generous. I know you can say 'this is the opinion of the reviewer don't take it to heart' but this is the score that will add to the metacritic average which can encourage companies to make the same mistakes in future. A review of a game that can get a 6 for just having good graphics/sound isn't a serious review.
Re: 'I Don't Think It Needs Nicki Minaj': As Call of Duty Skins Become Stupid, Battlefield 6 Will Stay 'Grounded'
These games are so tiring, battle pass, skins blah blah blah its all the same garbage and it just never ends does it. How can people get excited for a game that has been released dozens of times before. These games are just like fifa, same thing every time, slightly different look.
And also just to the point. If anyone is actually buying that they won't release these kinds of skins a few months after launch then I feel sorry for you, for you are truly lost.
Re: 88+ PS5, PS4 Games You Should Buy in PS Store's Huge Summer Sale
Big push for merch and sales on this site these days, starting to feel like one big advertisement
Re: 'We're Just Getting Started': Sony Marks 15 Years of PS Plus with Future Pledge
My sub ran out last month, couldn't be happier 😁 i have so many non ps+ games i still need to even start. It really is pointless, for me anyway
Re: UK's Death Stranding 2 PS5 Physical Sales Displace Mario Kart World, But Down 66% Compared to Predecessor
@Matroska thank you! The 4% stat which keeps on being used here is very misleading
Re: Sony's New PS5, PSVR2 Game May Be the Most Important It Releases This Year
@Gremio108 Hmm there actually was new ice knocking about. The ice caps grew significantly and famously even Londons river Thames froze for years. Yes it didnt last as long as normal ice ages, you could say it changed pretty quickly which is my point. Yes it wasn't caused by man. But you're certain that the climate change this time is caused by man? I have no doubt we have some affect on the climate but if you look into CO2 levels over the years (not just since 1901) you will see it was much higher many times in the past. Our contribution to climate change is miniscule in my opinion and from the evidence I have seen
Re: Sony's New PS5, PSVR2 Game May Be the Most Important It Releases This Year
@Gremio108 your point about the speed of change is false. There are many times in the earth's past where the climate changed just as fast as it is now. Google mini ice age for example which occurred in the early 14th century. Also the younger dryas around 12000 years ago.
Also just taking data from 1901 is very telling. Basically avoiding using a large enough data set to be accurate. That time frame is the blink of an eye geologically speaking.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for June 2025?
My sub ran out last week. Was tempted to resub just because of the days of play offer but I'm glad I didn't.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Is No Longer a PS5 Console Exclusive, Gets Superb Artwork to Celebrate
I just hope that SE take lessons from metaphor, exp 33 and realise turn based is still alive and well for the next ff. If not then even as a lifelong ff fan I'm not buying it. 16s combat was mind numbingly boring
Re: Beloved Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes $70, $80 Games Are a Steal
I will never commit to paying 80 euro a game besides like 1 or 2 exceptions. I can wait, there are so so many games in my backlog. I still haven't bought ratchet and clank and demons souls because i haven't seen them drop below 39.99 this generation. But they will eventually.
The problem is there are more and more people like me who either don't mind waiting or can't afford the price increases which is leading to less and less purchases on launch. It's a vicious cycle really and I can only see one outcome where a crash happens and a lot of big studios/publishers will go under
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Can't Stop the Ubisoft Rot of Star Wars Outlaws and XDefiant
@KonstantTrouble if it's not regulated then I would have no trouble believing a big business would fudge the numbers. I havent heard this before but if true then that's pretty damning