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@SEVENTEENSOILS im good brother, hope all is well with you 🙂

@SEVENTEENSOILS Yeah I played this at 30fps with zero issues. Its such a slow paced game it didnt bother me at all and the extra polish was lovely

Life's to short, time to move on folks. Far worse things in the world than discs stopping. Would I prefer they didnt, absolutely. Am I going to waste my days in outrage and stop the hobby I enjoy, absolutely not.

Things change and while we should always retain a voice, some things just really aren't that important.

Said this elsewhere but the majority of people who buy these consoles will neither know or care that this is a thing. The rest of us are a small section shouting at a big void.

Really, really enjoyed this. Definitely recommend if you havent tried it.

This only goes to show we exist in a tiny vacuum. The majority of folks playing games aren't even aware sites like this exist.

@MrStark I probably think that 'is estimated to double' just changed to 'was estimated to double' following sonys announcement unfortunately. Absolute grim news that will impact many beyond just us gamers.

@dodgykebaab woah woah woah. I may fit everything else you said but I, sir, am not a boomer.

@get2sammyb in answer to why the rush, I imagine because with news we are all expecting to arrive from elsewhere next week, it will be viewed as best to get all the bad news out now as next week will take all focus off it.

@Jacko11 fingers crossed eh. Windows central has also reported it and they are pretty in the know with all things xbox/MS. And its been a good few hours now...

@Swandivetotheasphalt wait! Mr Cage is Mr Stark??? You just scooby doo'd me, whipping that mask right off. It all seems so obvious now though 😂

@Jacko11 got a link to that news? Don't get me wrong, I hope both are true but you can understand why I have my doubts.

@CallMeDuraSouka it blows me away overtime he is wheeled out with Asha to say xbox is back (!!!) When he is one of the ones that put it in the position its in.

@Banjo- Are you seriously blaming the studios for being poorly managed by a company that bought them? Just because you cannot say anything negative about the brand?

@UltimateOtaku91 imagine fanboying over people losing their jobs. Seriously man, give it a rest.

As with all of these acquisitions, absolutely pointless and end up with folks losing lobs. Yet the ones writing these statements won't be trying to feed themselves or their famalies because of cuts.

I remember analysts (i know) said last time that the reason Sony increased so hard last time was to mitigate the inevitable second increase others will have to take again.

The problem is when the next round of increases come. The tech world is an utter mess right now

@AI-Generation as analysts said at the time, the reason sony prices increased so much was to avoid this inevitable next round.

The round after this however is sadly inevitable.

@1970sGamer Yeah, i had it pegged for 74.99 and expected the ultimate to be about 99.99. All in all its pretty standard pricing really.

@BearsEatBeets yeah, pretty standard. Although I did expect the ultimate to be around 99.99 to be fair.

69.99 and 89.99 on uk psn

69.99 and 89.99 on uk psn store

@MARl0 no. Rockstars own sub.

@11001100110zero glad your happy. Just highlighting it is far from a beast.

@11001100110zero check out the tech reviews on digital foundry and eurogamer. 'Beast' is vastly overstating it. Its struggling to keep up with PS5 and SX on most current gen titles.

@Member_the_game @Dogbreath. 47 here. I will be 60 on the button at this rate. My middle kid is 13 and I was thinking that rockstar have only released 2 games in his entire lifetime. That is absolutely wild.

@Member_the_game There is a good chance some us will be dead of old before GTA7 releases.

Completely off topic, apologies, but I just saw that one of the ubisoft founders, Claude Gulliemot, has died in a plane crash. Grim news and thoughts to his family.

@SMJ and yet the whole thing turned out to be a MS issue and nothing to do with Sony. Ironic really all things considered.

Said this on pure xbox...

I have a feeling its unintentionally a bit of both sides. MS likes users to have a MS account (both players need one on xbox consoles as well as PS in local co-op). PS requires plus to be able to connect online.

Its likely the needing a MS account to be verified and the plus requirement to do so clashing and making it ridiculous.

It would be silly of MS to require it as im pretty sure they wouldn't intentionally try and give sony more subs, yet PS wouldn't intentionally cut themselves out of a 30% cut of a game that cost them nothing to make.

Whatever it is its stupid.

@Scrubchub I frequently post on both sites, im hardly 'coming here' for some more pal.

I see the new fanboy war relates to who had laid off/closed the most studios.

What a time to be a gamer eh folks.

This staggered approach can get in the bin for me. Absolute terrible idea.

To repeat a previous post.... utter sh*t show.

What a sh*t show.

@Ninerguy1608 I will take two of what he is having please

@Ninerguy1608 what in the name of God are you saying here 😂

@11001100110zero I agree in that the money will be made somewhere, it has to be. Its the how thats the worry as whatever they do it will more than likely mean big changes and job losses which will impact us as gamers.

@11001100110zero I agree with you in that 400 million seems way out of line, but again, the money isn't coming in. Folks are stacked for years. That means they made one payment and no more money comes in until they run out. This is the problem. While I do not doubt there are monthly subs recurring, there aren't enough of them to sustain it.

If they were making 340 odd million a month, do you think they would be doing what they are now and finishing the year 500 million down? Two ceo's have come out and clearly said the business isn't sustainable. That means that while there may be plenty of money flowing in, there isn't enough flowing in.

They want new subs and new recurring payments. Hell, there are people who are stacked for years after using loophole upon loophole to pay next to nothing. Great for them as gamers, but for the company, its a nightmare as they essentially pay millions in development costs each year and get not a single penny more for them off a chunk of their userbase. Something has to give.

@11001100110zero The main issue with your calculation is that if all those players are already subscribed, then its money already in the pot and we know that isnt enough. They need new subscribers to bring new money.

They arent making that money off folks playing E Day unless 15 million new subs rock up. They made that money when they signed up previously and still finished half a billion down.

@Rich33 honestly mate, dont even waste your time with him. Like shouting into the void.

@Skinny-Pete mate. Take a step back and look at yourself here. I never said it was because of gears. I said any revenue would have helped but it would likely be a drop in the ocean.

You are rambling nonsense without even reading what I wrote and throwing your toys around. Learn how to have a conversation like an adult or dont bother.

@Skinny-Pete people arent having a laugh. They are saying that its clear what the reason that led to this is. They are also pointing out that pulling a game ready for release doesnt make sense when you need revenue, this is why gears is being mentioned. It would likely be a drop in the ocean but its relevant when they release a statement like this.

Yes, playstation did and they were railed on at that time, and rightly so.

Then you are here acting like someone is picking on your favourite brand and console warring. Mate, the majority of comments are just saying what xbox itself has said in the last few days.

Far from a circle perk pal. It may surprise you but we like games. News like this impacts everyone.

@Skinny-Pete well considering that if they close any studios it affects playstation these days, it makes sense.

And a circle jerk of negativity? Come on pal. A company just gave a heads up its going to sack a load of people, possibly close studios and is losing money on a year by year basis. Where is the positivity found in that?

@get2sammyb yeah, xbox news is basically playstation news at this point apart from 2 games.

@Fiendish-Beaver yeah, i know they're a small team. Im just cranky because I can't sleep 😂

@StylesT well there still isn't an article about this on the xbox site.

@SMJ at this point i think a child could do a better job.

@MidnightDragonDX I genuinely think I will be dead before GTA 7 comes out.