@SMJ Im with you, I always say im a fan of games, not the box that plays them. It just came across in your comment a little like you were swinging from one side. Many of the points you raise arent relevant to this article. I do get it may have been unintended.
I also agree with you in that this was clearly a bit click baity to the blue side of the fence. Then again, Pure Xbox isnt reporting on the comments, so i guess someone has to.
It’s pretty much getting to a point that the only defenders of this move are the staunchest of Xbox fans. Even on Pure Xbox there are people turning away in droves. I feel for the folks running that place as, while there are some good things in the oven game wise, there is consistent noise that overpowers everything. Usually from MS’s own doing.
I’m just waiting for folks to realise the Rog Ally is not an Xbox and there will be further uproar.
@RoomWithaMoose I do get your points my man and im not taking anything away from them. I just saw the GP article as one about dealing with the pressures and problems of putting AAA games on a sub, day one. Obviously that applies more to Gamepass, but it also applies to Plus on occasion and also demonstrates why Sony maybe avoided it. The comments and quotes were negative in tone, that cant be changed but the points apply to all subs. The fact it doesn't really apply to plus is likely why it doesn't mention it. AAA games just dont drop day one on plus, so its not really a factor.
This article is more about how subs could help smaller studios. It just so happens that this is related to the playstation side on a playstation site, but I imagine the principle of the tale applies more so to gamepass as xbox really pushed indie studios on Gamepass and likely helped more in the same way we see here.
I do get why people are disgruntled but all this Gamepass/Plus bashing talk is just silly. Its gaming news that shows the positive and negatives of the current trend, subs. Personally, im not a fan of them but I can see how they help smaller studios regardless of which sub they are on. I also see how they cripple bigger studios trying to recoup costs.
@RoomWithaMoose The article focused more on Gamepass as the folks making the comments were doing so in relation to a MS AAA studio releasing games day one on a sub. Plus doesn't go this route regularly (if ever), so the point was more related to the negative side of that method and the struggles it causes. As confirmed by the people making the comments.
This one relates to a positive side of releasing on a sub. It could apply either way, to either sub, regardless of the company.
I think this sums up things really. Smaller titles, such as this, can benefit or flourish from being on a plus/gamepass type sub. It gets the game into hands and can benefit developers who need funding. As this confirms.
The flip side is big AAA's (which is what the gamepass article related to the other day in regard to bethesda), can find it a challenge as development costs aren't an issue, but recouping them when put on a sub will be.
@Fiendish-Beaver I tried the demo for hell is us over the weekend and I immediately knew I would love it. Gonna pick it up over the next week or so I think
@Rodster Hey! Welcome. Good post and its always good to get balanced, well explained opinions, so dont apologise!
I agree with everything you have said. Gamepass is great value, but its almost like its too good value. So much so that its hobbled itself. A lot of folks have used loophole upon loophole to stack their subs and use valid things (like reward points) to play 50, 60, 70 pound games for nothing. There comes a point were it has to bite.
I know people shout about record profits and the like but, like you, I just play the games I want to play on whatever box plays them. If someone let's me play a day one release for one pound then you can bet your ass im gonna use that to play it. Its just got to hit a wall at some point.
Excellent collection by the way. Hope you choose to stick around 🙂
@Lup shinobi is a pretty reliable source who actually works for/with developers. Plus the man cooks some awesome bbq judging off the pictures he puts out.
@Oram77 Exactly. The 'war' is long over and no amount of games going multiplat will change the outcome. It was the digital libraries that fired the deciding shot. As you say, people simply wont leave their's behind, so you may as well sell the games where they are to get something from them.
Back in the day it was silly but at least the consoles back then were different machines with different capabilities. Nowadays its basically the same console in a different skin, so who cares which people choose to play the games on as long as we still get the games to play.
@dardel locked 1440p on pro in performance mode. Rtx is enabled in quality mode which locks at 40fps. However, The RTX on console is hardly noticeable so not worth the frame rate hit according to Richard at DF.
Its getting to the point were i feel like the kids out of stand by me every time i go to PureXbox. Just making the journey so I can poke a bloated corpse with sticks.
@Reeneman Arrowhead made the game, but Sony own the ip. Its very much a Sony game. As I said above, its what used to be reffered to as a 2nd party title.
Christ, some people are just ridiculous. Its not even a first party game. Its a 2nd party title. A studio producing an ip Sony own and that relies on having people playing it to be a success. I for one will be happy to dive in (pun intended) with xbox players to help them find their feet.
@Kienda again, they literally said at the beginning this presentation contains strong language and violence. If you watch beyond there then thats on you.
You said you had to cover your kids eyes. If you were watching it after you had watched it live, surely you knew what was coming. Again, thats on you.
Im not gonna tell you how to parent or what you should and shouldn't watch as an adult, but when something tells me its gonna have violence in it, im not shocked when it turns up.
Im not trying to have a go or anything, im just baffled how anyone can complain about violence and gore in something that warns you it contains violence and gore.
@Kienda it gave you a warning at the beginning and was aired at 10pm at night (in the uk at least). They pretty much ticked all the boxes they need to. Its kinda on you if you let young kids watch it.
I tend to watch it live and then rewatch the next day with my kid so I can skip anything unsuitable.
@KundaliniRising333 mine was purely due to dust blocking the air flow in the heat sinc. We live in a busy house with 3 kids, dog, cat on the edge of a wooded area so we get a lot of air born dust that the fan sucks in, even though we clean and hoover daily.
The PS5 is in a cool, well ventilated space, not in a unit with plenty of air flow. It was simply the dust aucked in by the fan had gathered in the heat since reducing the air flow through it. Once i cleaned it out it ran like new again.
@BleedingDreamer My OG unit did this. Take the side plate off, unscrew the fan and you can clean the heat sinc. It's very easy to do and mine has been working perfect ever since. The amount of dust collected in there was unreal.
@NathanKang fake fanbase? This was my most played game last year in my PS annual review and I wouldn't be surprised if the remaster is up there again this year.
@OldGamer999 At this point I don't think you actually have any consoles. You sold your series x, you returned your ps pro, yet here you are owning all consoles.
@MrPeanutbutterz I'm a big pearl jam fan and it was 160 quid a ticket to see them in the UK last time round. As much as I love them, I just can't bring myself to pay that. To top it off, I believe he was ill at the gig and struggled to sing most of the songs.
I'd rather catch someone in a small venue for 30 quid and feel like I've been to a gig than sit in the back row of a stadium for a small fortune.
Did you see the price of tickets for the sabbath shows at the Aston villa ground? My god.
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Re: Xbox Squandered Over $300 Million Putting Call of Duty in Game Pass
@SMJ Im with you, I always say im a fan of games, not the box that plays them. It just came across in your comment a little like you were swinging from one side. Many of the points you raise arent relevant to this article. I do get it may have been unintended.
I also agree with you in that this was clearly a bit click baity to the blue side of the fence. Then again, Pure Xbox isnt reporting on the comments, so i guess someone has to.
Damned if you do, damned if you dont really.
Re: Xbox Squandered Over $300 Million Putting Call of Duty in Game Pass
@SMJ I mean, I get what youre saying, but it kinda comes across like you're upset because they arent cheering for your plastic box.
Re: 'Told You So': Ex-FTC Chair Lina Khan Is Having the Last Laugh Over Xbox's Activision Acquisition
It’s pretty much getting to a point that the only defenders of this move are the staunchest of Xbox fans. Even on Pure Xbox there are people turning away in droves. I feel for the folks running that place as, while there are some good things in the oven game wise, there is consistent noise that overpowers everything. Usually from MS’s own doing.
I’m just waiting for folks to realise the Rog Ally is not an Xbox and there will be further uproar.
Re: Silent Hill F Is Another Game That Stumbles on PS5 Pro
I mean, we are still waiting for the Silent Hill 2 fix for pro so I wouldnt be holding my hopes up for a quick fix.
Re: Beware! Silent Hill F PS5 Spoilers Could Soon Start Seeping Online
@Slayer25c appreciated, thank you.
Re: Beware! Silent Hill F PS5 Spoilers Could Soon Start Seeping Online
Hey Sammy, when are reviews expected to drop for this one? Im straddling the fence like a Cowboy on if i should pick it up.
Re: As Sony Doubles Down on Anime, Demon Slayer Breaks Box Office Records
@LifeGirl the distinctly average fantastic four has pulled in over 515 million dollars. I think doomsday will likely break the billion mark.
Time will tell i guess
Re: 'It Saved the Game': Sword of the Sea Dev Praises Sony, Explains PS Plus Deal
@RoomWithaMoose I do get your points my man and im not taking anything away from them. I just saw the GP article as one about dealing with the pressures and problems of putting AAA games on a sub, day one. Obviously that applies more to Gamepass, but it also applies to Plus on occasion and also demonstrates why Sony maybe avoided it. The comments and quotes were negative in tone, that cant be changed but the points apply to all subs. The fact it doesn't really apply to plus is likely why it doesn't mention it. AAA games just dont drop day one on plus, so its not really a factor.
This article is more about how subs could help smaller studios. It just so happens that this is related to the playstation side on a playstation site, but I imagine the principle of the tale applies more so to gamepass as xbox really pushed indie studios on Gamepass and likely helped more in the same way we see here.
I do get why people are disgruntled but all this Gamepass/Plus bashing talk is just silly. Its gaming news that shows the positive and negatives of the current trend, subs. Personally, im not a fan of them but I can see how they help smaller studios regardless of which sub they are on. I also see how they cripple bigger studios trying to recoup costs.
Bring back tape cassettes I say 😂
Re: 'It Saved the Game': Sword of the Sea Dev Praises Sony, Explains PS Plus Deal
@RoomWithaMoose The article focused more on Gamepass as the folks making the comments were doing so in relation to a MS AAA studio releasing games day one on a sub. Plus doesn't go this route regularly (if ever), so the point was more related to the negative side of that method and the struggles it causes. As confirmed by the people making the comments.
This one relates to a positive side of releasing on a sub. It could apply either way, to either sub, regardless of the company.
Re: 'It Saved the Game': Sword of the Sea Dev Praises Sony, Explains PS Plus Deal
I think this sums up things really. Smaller titles, such as this, can benefit or flourish from being on a plus/gamepass type sub. It gets the game into hands and can benefit developers who need funding. As this confirms.
The flip side is big AAA's (which is what the gamepass article related to the other day in regard to bethesda), can find it a challenge as development costs aren't an issue, but recouping them when put on a sub will be.
Re: Cronos: The New Dawn, Hell Is Us Compete with Popular Favourites in UK Physical Charts
@Fiendish-Beaver I tried the demo for hell is us over the weekend and I immediately knew I would love it. Gonna pick it up over the next week or so I think
Re: Even More Ex-Xbox Executives Speak Out About 'Tension' of Game Pass
@Rodster Hey! Welcome. Good post and its always good to get balanced, well explained opinions, so dont apologise!
I agree with everything you have said. Gamepass is great value, but its almost like its too good value. So much so that its hobbled itself. A lot of folks have used loophole upon loophole to stack their subs and use valid things (like reward points) to play 50, 60, 70 pound games for nothing. There comes a point were it has to bite.
I know people shout about record profits and the like but, like you, I just play the games I want to play on whatever box plays them. If someone let's me play a day one release for one pound then you can bet your ass im gonna use that to play it. Its just got to hit a wall at some point.
Excellent collection by the way. Hope you choose to stick around 🙂
Re: Preview: Masters of the Brawliverse! The New Retro He-Man Game Hits Hard
@get2sammyb the real question here is did you repeatedly ask them to make a Thundercats game?
Re: PS5 Stunner Phantom Blade Zero Looks Out of This World in New Gameplay Trailer
@Snick27 they already did. Theres a link to it right there in the article.
Re: Shameful AI Ads Put the Spotlight on The First Descendant
Jesus thats haunting and wrong on an incredible level. Who on earth even signed off on this?!?!
Re: Take a Trip to the Dark Ages in PS Plus Premium Trial of New DOOM on PS5
Surely letting more people access the trial would lead to more sales. I dont see the point of locking them behind a tier.
Re: Jurassic Park Survival Is Shaping Up to Be a Dream PS5 Single Player Game
Please god just be good. That’s all I ask.
Re: Rumour: Starfield PS5 to Take Flight Alongside New Expansion Next Year
If you enjoyed Starfield then fair play to you. I just could not get on with it at all.
Re: Rumour: Sony to Put More First-Party PS5 Games on Xbox
@Lup shinobi is a pretty reliable source who actually works for/with developers. Plus the man cooks some awesome bbq judging off the pictures he puts out.
Re: Rumour: Sony to Put More First-Party PS5 Games on Xbox
@Oram77 Exactly. The 'war' is long over and no amount of games going multiplat will change the outcome. It was the digital libraries that fired the deciding shot. As you say, people simply wont leave their's behind, so you may as well sell the games where they are to get something from them.
Re: Rumour: Sony to Put More First-Party PS5 Games on Xbox
Back in the day it was silly but at least the consoles back then were different machines with different capabilities. Nowadays its basically the same console in a different skin, so who cares which people choose to play the games on as long as we still get the games to play.
Re: Sony Job Listing Implies More PS5 Exclusives Will Be Ported to Xbox, Nintendo
Wild times are indeed afoot.
Re: VRR Gives Cyberpunk 2077 a Massive Performance Boost on PS5 Pro, Up to 120FPS
@dardel locked 1440p on pro in performance mode. Rtx is enabled in quality mode which locks at 40fps. However, The RTX on console is hardly noticeable so not worth the frame rate hit according to Richard at DF.
Re: Romero Games Shuttered and Over 100 Staff Axed After Xbox Pulls Funding
Its getting to the point were i feel like the kids out of stand by me every time i go to PureXbox. Just making the journey so I can poke a bloated corpse with sticks.
Re: PS5 Fans Divided Over Helldivers 2 on Xbox Pivot
@Reeneman Arrowhead made the game, but Sony own the ip. Its very much a Sony game. As I said above, its what used to be reffered to as a 2nd party title.
Re: PS5 Fans Divided Over Helldivers 2 on Xbox Pivot
Christ, some people are just ridiculous. Its not even a first party game. Its a 2nd party title. A studio producing an ip Sony own and that relies on having people playing it to be a success. I for one will be happy to dive in (pun intended) with xbox players to help them find their feet.
Re: Mass Layoffs at Xbox Expected to Be Confirmed on 2nd July
Really nice of them to give people a nice stressful wait to find out if they have a job and the holiday weekend to let any bad news sink in.
Those tough decisions must be really grinding those bigwigs into the floor eh.
Re: PS5's AI Slop Shovelware Has Hit a New Low
Slow seductive horror feels like 90% of my past relationships
Re: This Outstanding New PS5, PS4 Shmup Will Make You Miss the SEGA Genesis Days
Im all over this. Sounds like it could be up there with xenon 2 megablast soundtrack wise (especially the atari st version).
Re: Everyone's Talking About Body Horror Game ILL for PS5, Apparently
@Kienda again, they literally said at the beginning this presentation contains strong language and violence. If you watch beyond there then thats on you.
You said you had to cover your kids eyes. If you were watching it after you had watched it live, surely you knew what was coming. Again, thats on you.
Im not gonna tell you how to parent or what you should and shouldn't watch as an adult, but when something tells me its gonna have violence in it, im not shocked when it turns up.
Im not trying to have a go or anything, im just baffled how anyone can complain about violence and gore in something that warns you it contains violence and gore.
Re: Everyone's Talking About Body Horror Game ILL for PS5, Apparently
@Kienda it gave you a warning at the beginning and was aired at 10pm at night (in the uk at least). They pretty much ticked all the boxes they need to. Its kinda on you if you let young kids watch it.
I tend to watch it live and then rewatch the next day with my kid so I can skip anything unsuitable.
Re: End of Abyss May Fool You into Thinking It's the Next PS5 Game from Playdead
I love Dead Nation and have a soft spot for games of this ilk. I shall keep an eye on this.
Re: Best EA Games on PS5
If Dead Space wasn't number one I'd have spent the next month or two remembering this chart and grumbling to myself about it.
Re: Rumours of a Red Dead Redemption 2 PS5 Version Swirl Again
I would desperately love this to be true. I love this game. I know its normal everyone but for the love of God rockstar, just give me this.
Re: Days Gone Remastered Gets Better with PS5 Update, Here Are All the Patch Notes
@brakeman90 assume makes an ass out of u and me. Dangerous game to assume.
Re: Days Gone Remastered Gets Better with PS5 Update, Here Are All the Patch Notes
@chrisPatsox in your opinion. You forgot to add in your opinion.
Re: Hot PS5s Cause Havoc at Sony's EVO Japan Grand Final
@BleedingDreamer ahhh man, that sucks. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Re: Hot PS5s Cause Havoc at Sony’s EVO Japan Grand Final
@KundaliniRising333 mine was purely due to dust blocking the air flow in the heat sinc. We live in a busy house with 3 kids, dog, cat on the edge of a wooded area so we get a lot of air born dust that the fan sucks in, even though we clean and hoover daily.
The PS5 is in a cool, well ventilated space, not in a unit with plenty of air flow. It was simply the dust aucked in by the fan had gathered in the heat since reducing the air flow through it. Once i cleaned it out it ran like new again.
Re: Hot PS5s Cause Havoc At Sony’s EVO Japan Grand Final
@BleedingDreamer My OG unit did this. Take the side plate off, unscrew the fan and you can clean the heat sinc. It's very easy to do and mine has been working perfect ever since. The amount of dust collected in there was unreal.
Re: Site News: Where's Our Days Gone Remastered PS5 Review?
@NathanKang understand we all like different things.
Re: Site News: Where's Our Days Gone Remastered PS5 Review?
@NathanKang fake fanbase? This was my most played game last year in my PS annual review and I wouldn't be surprised if the remaster is up there again this year.
Genuinely one of my favourite games.
Re: These 14+ New PS5, PS4 Games Are Coming Out Next Week (21st-27th April)
Man I'm looking forward to playing days gone again
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 577
I need to start AC shadows really but I cannot stop playing Blue Prince. It's becoming a serious problem.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Indiana Jones and the Great Circle on PS5?
Will trade in Ass shadows against it when I'm done.
Re: Niche Fighter Fatal Fury's Marketing Is Wiping the Floor with the Genre's Biggest Names
@Jrs1 I hear you man. 46 here and 90% of stuff on tv confuses me
Re: Niche Fighter Fatal Fury's Marketing Is Wiping the Floor with the Genre's Biggest Names
@Jrs1 your life is far better for it in this instance my friend.
Re: Niche Fighter Fatal Fury's Marketing Would Wipe the Floor with the Genre's Biggest Names
I cannot stand that speed chap. I just cannot sanction his buffoonery.
Re: PS Plus Price Hikes Strike Even More Countries
@OldGamer999 I think you've hit that point in old age and youre just holding a potatoe shouting at the wall instead of a console 😂
Re: PS Plus Price Hikes Strike Even More Countries
@OldGamer999 At this point I don't think you actually have any consoles. You sold your series x, you returned your ps pro, yet here you are owning all consoles.
Re: Sony Scales Back PlayStation Gigs as Some Dates Are Cancelled or Moved
@MrPeanutbutterz I'm a big pearl jam fan and it was 160 quid a ticket to see them in the UK last time round. As much as I love them, I just can't bring myself to pay that. To top it off, I believe he was ill at the gig and struggled to sing most of the songs.
I'd rather catch someone in a small venue for 30 quid and feel like I've been to a gig than sit in the back row of a stadium for a small fortune.
Did you see the price of tickets for the sabbath shows at the Aston villa ground? My god.