@OldGamer999 with the new MS machine being PC based, and the increasing likelihood of a high purchase cost, I imagine only the real hardcore xbox folks will go for it. Even then the cost may price them out. Anyone who prefers PC will probably already have a powerful machine or upgrade what they have.
I do think that the box wont be an xbox though except in name and brand as xbox is essentially heading towards just being an app/storefront. It will let you access your existing library through emulation or streaming, purchase new titles or access gamepass.
Essentially it wont sell millions but thats fine as I imagine MS know that already. Similar to the PS Pro. It was never going to be mass market so its sold at a higher price to the smaller pool of hardcore folks who will buy it.
PS games games will be on it a year or so later but even now, its a relatively small selection when you look at the whole. With things like Gran Tourismo still not going over.
Its inevitable we will all one day end up with just an app to play these games, MS are just trying to force it a little to soon in my opinion as technology is not quite there yet. The problem then goes back to folks buying into Sony's eco system in the meantime.
Plus things like Gamepass. While arguably a better service than Plus due to day one games, from a cost factor, Plus offers a bigger library at a cheaper price. Two very different approaches and I imagine folks could find the cheaper service the 'better' one for them.
Strange times ahead either way eh.
Sky Q being discontinued as such is mental isnt it. I read that the other day and did a double take. Streaming TV is very different to streaming games though, so in a way, I understand their move more when everyone is just watching Netflix, etc... anyway.
Edit: The flip side to MS going PC based, and ive said this a few times, is that all 'next gen' titles it plays will basically just be the Windows version. Not an 'xbox' port, as what's the point of essentially having two versions of the same code, one for xbox and one for PC, when the xbox is just a PC.
Now, if you imagine that jump had already taken place, big console games such as GTA 6 only release for PC at a much later date, effectively giving PS exclusivity as its the only true 'console' version. Rockstar themselves have said they focus on PC later due to the amount of variables the format has available. If xbox is running a PC version, as its essentially a PC, does that mean they will have to wait because to release it on the next box means all PC's will have access to it, and they dont want it releasing in a situation it may run terrible.
Not guaranteed obviously, but it does give food for thought.
@OldGamer999 for me, the reason I dont think games like uncharted or spiderman will go is that if it happens, it gives xbox folks zero reason to buy a PS5.
Similar to now where people view an xbox as no longer needed because all games are on PS5. If people believe its gonna happen the other way, its sales lost and, more importantly, the opportunity to pull someone into the ecosystem lost.
Next gen isnt even about which console is the best anymore. Its simply about not screwing the pooch and pushing folks away. Last gen people started really building digital libraries. The majority of folks buying consoles arent like you or I. They are the casual market. They will buy the new machine that plays what they already own. Xbox is never going to sway that and they know it, so they sell the games where the people are playing them. Its also why they are going down the PC route and appealing to the hardcore fanbase who will pay a premium cost for it.
Xbox is shrinking (sadly) in terms of new people entering the ecosystem, Sony is growing as the more people buy your box, the more likely they purchase games digitally and buy a new sub service.
Which, for me at least, is probably why Sony doesn't feel the need to move its big single player hitters over. No point giving all the cards away when youre already holding the better hand.
@11001100110zero yeah gamepass absolutely beat PS Now and it made sense to roll it into plus; However plus numbers have always been greater. The last actual release of sub numbers from Plus was in March 2023 and it had 47.4 million subscribers. Gamepass had 34 million in early 2024 from MS's last released. Theres been a first few more sales of ps5's since then but I wouldn't be surprised if it had hovered around that mark since.
I mean, thats still a fair amount of change MS made from subs, but the fact it hadn't caught Sony up from almost a year earlier demonstrates the slow growth. Now with minimal sales of the console its likely not moving the needle anywhere near a rate they needed. Day on was always a gamble, which is what a good business does, it just didnt work out this time.
Also, didnt think it was a dunk my man, nice to have a good conversation!
@11001100110zero I think they pinned all their hopes on people swarming to gamepass and it just didn't happen. Day one games works well when you have millions upon millions of subs and it continues to grow. The bottom line is it simply didnt. If it was all rosey they wouldn't be trying to milk the more loyal fanbase for every penny.
Lets not forget, gamepass doesn't even have as many subs as ps plus based on the last recieved numbers. Admittedly these were a few years ago but they even rolled gold memberships into it and it was nowhere near. All those sales of PS5 will likely mean a slight growth when you take into account churn or, more likely, the number sitting around the same mark.
I dont want xbox to stop making boxes - proper boxes, not uber expensive pc lites - but I just dont see it happening. The next xbox will likely be an app overlay playing PC versions of 'next Gen' titles and emulated versions of older titles. I mentioned a while back that if this was happening right now, things like GTA 6 would effectively be a playstation exclusive as its not being released on last gen boxes and the pc lite xbox would be reliant on a PC version.
With the report over on purexbox that both Sony and MS are looking to push the new consoles back due to RAM costs, I just dont see where xbox goes other than a PC app.
When the company who cant sell a console right now starts to put its games everywhere, thats not because they're good people.
Exclusives were everything to MS right up until sales plummeted. And then they wasnt.
Everything acquired in buyouts was going to be exclusives until they still struggled to sell consoles. Then it wasnt.
Exclusives matter as they sell your product. When your product isnt selling, then you make money back you invested in the games by putting them elsewhere.
Folks forever say well, MS gets a cut of every sale. They do. They also had to pay for development, advertising, publishing, etc... other platforms make money off these games with none of that overlay. Overlay which needs to be recouped.
Lets be honest, if gamepass was doing gangbusters then they wouldn't be doubling the price of it in one swoop. They certainly wouldn't be putting in house games elsewhere either.
The sad part of this is that we will all suffer from it as competition breeds innovation. And the main competition for Sony rolled over and bared its tummy the second it paid 78 billion dollars out.
@Joel_Lives or it could be people who wanted to buy it and enjoyed it. Its okay to dislike a game but why try to brush its sales numbers off as 'parents buying unwanted gifts'? Seems a bit daft.
@Striker21 its tge same with all these companies in that figures are announced with plenty of smoke and mirrors. I do agree it contributed in a way, but when you look at live services, tale into account they merged gold and gamepass, price increases, etc... Gamepass revenue actually shrank.
They all do it though, irmts not exclusive to MS/Xbox. As I say, not once in these figures do they mention spending 69 billion (and thats just one of the few companies they swallowed). Even adding everything up across the board, it doesn't dent that hole they started in.
@Striker21 thats revenue. Not profit. Big difference.
They spent 68 billion on Activision. They finished the year in a big hole profit wise.
Also while you have referenced the 70% cut of games sold on ps elsewhere, you fail to take into account development costs. Yes, Sony only get 30%, but that game didnt cost them a penny to make.
I get you are a big defender of the brand and thats fine, but you are throwing very selective details out.
@LifeGirl to be fair to him, it feels like pure xbox is winding down these days. They rarely review games that arent on gamepass, opting for review roundup 'heres what people are saying about...' articles and only seem to post 3 or four articles on a good day.
I hope im wrong as they are a good bunch, but the vibe is there.
@Striker21 this would all be accurate if the majority of sales in this space didnt come from the casual market. People who care about a crossbred box for steam, epic, etc... are a tiny minority compared to the mass market buying these things.
While it may feel like a step forward for us, the bulk simply wont care. They will just buy the box that plays the games they already own.
Happened with the shift from PS4 to PS5 and those game collections have grown. Will repeat from PS5 to PS6.
At the end of the day, power is irrelevant. Its gonna take a minor miracle to get everyone that has built a digital library of games across PS4 and PS5 to just drop them and go to a new eco system.
PS6 will play them and once that message is clear, folks will just pick that up and carry on. The vast majority of sales come from people who dont even know sites like this exist. They dont bicker over which box does what. They will just hear that all the games they already own can be played on the new box and thats enough.
Hell, the only reason MS are looking to include steam is because they cant get PS owners to switch over. So they can use what they already in terms of PC tech to entice steam users to buy their new box. Its not to be nice to us gamers. Its simply the only way to get new purchasers on gamepass, because nothing else has worked.
@Dogbreath The catch here is Sony arent trying to buy up half the market and MS will still be the biggest publisher in the world (if they drop out of the hardware business, which is hope they dont).
@darylb24 apologies if my point was missed. I do agree they should update it with the statement put out. It was more for the other more ardent fans that take every word they say as fact.
This is all speculation at the minute on both sides, but it jas reached a point where the statements Microsoft put out carry the same weight as some commenter on a forum.
@RoomWithaMoose If a site only reports the positive and ignores the negatives then, by your logic, that would also make it a fanboy site viewing the world through a lense.
I will wait for you to direct me to an article on Pure Xbox discussing this topic.
@SMJ Im with you, I always say im a fan of games, not the box that plays them. It just came across in your comment a little like you were swinging from one side. Many of the points you raise arent relevant to this article. I do get it may have been unintended.
I also agree with you in that this was clearly a bit click baity to the blue side of the fence. Then again, Pure Xbox isnt reporting on the comments, so i guess someone has to.
It’s pretty much getting to a point that the only defenders of this move are the staunchest of Xbox fans. Even on Pure Xbox there are people turning away in droves. I feel for the folks running that place as, while there are some good things in the oven game wise, there is consistent noise that overpowers everything. Usually from MS’s own doing.
I’m just waiting for folks to realise the Rog Ally is not an Xbox and there will be further uproar.
@RoomWithaMoose I do get your points my man and im not taking anything away from them. I just saw the GP article as one about dealing with the pressures and problems of putting AAA games on a sub, day one. Obviously that applies more to Gamepass, but it also applies to Plus on occasion and also demonstrates why Sony maybe avoided it. The comments and quotes were negative in tone, that cant be changed but the points apply to all subs. The fact it doesn't really apply to plus is likely why it doesn't mention it. AAA games just dont drop day one on plus, so its not really a factor.
This article is more about how subs could help smaller studios. It just so happens that this is related to the playstation side on a playstation site, but I imagine the principle of the tale applies more so to gamepass as xbox really pushed indie studios on Gamepass and likely helped more in the same way we see here.
I do get why people are disgruntled but all this Gamepass/Plus bashing talk is just silly. Its gaming news that shows the positive and negatives of the current trend, subs. Personally, im not a fan of them but I can see how they help smaller studios regardless of which sub they are on. I also see how they cripple bigger studios trying to recoup costs.
@RoomWithaMoose The article focused more on Gamepass as the folks making the comments were doing so in relation to a MS AAA studio releasing games day one on a sub. Plus doesn't go this route regularly (if ever), so the point was more related to the negative side of that method and the struggles it causes. As confirmed by the people making the comments.
This one relates to a positive side of releasing on a sub. It could apply either way, to either sub, regardless of the company.
I think this sums up things really. Smaller titles, such as this, can benefit or flourish from being on a plus/gamepass type sub. It gets the game into hands and can benefit developers who need funding. As this confirms.
The flip side is big AAA's (which is what the gamepass article related to the other day in regard to bethesda), can find it a challenge as development costs aren't an issue, but recouping them when put on a sub will be.
@Fiendish-Beaver I tried the demo for hell is us over the weekend and I immediately knew I would love it. Gonna pick it up over the next week or so I think
@Rodster Hey! Welcome. Good post and its always good to get balanced, well explained opinions, so dont apologise!
I agree with everything you have said. Gamepass is great value, but its almost like its too good value. So much so that its hobbled itself. A lot of folks have used loophole upon loophole to stack their subs and use valid things (like reward points) to play 50, 60, 70 pound games for nothing. There comes a point were it has to bite.
I know people shout about record profits and the like but, like you, I just play the games I want to play on whatever box plays them. If someone let's me play a day one release for one pound then you can bet your ass im gonna use that to play it. Its just got to hit a wall at some point.
Excellent collection by the way. Hope you choose to stick around 🙂
@Lup shinobi is a pretty reliable source who actually works for/with developers. Plus the man cooks some awesome bbq judging off the pictures he puts out.
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Re: Fable Has Been 'Targeting' PS5 for a While, Potentially Day and Date
@OldGamer999 with the new MS machine being PC based, and the increasing likelihood of a high purchase cost, I imagine only the real hardcore xbox folks will go for it. Even then the cost may price them out. Anyone who prefers PC will probably already have a powerful machine or upgrade what they have.
I do think that the box wont be an xbox though except in name and brand as xbox is essentially heading towards just being an app/storefront. It will let you access your existing library through emulation or streaming, purchase new titles or access gamepass.
Essentially it wont sell millions but thats fine as I imagine MS know that already. Similar to the PS Pro. It was never going to be mass market so its sold at a higher price to the smaller pool of hardcore folks who will buy it.
PS games games will be on it a year or so later but even now, its a relatively small selection when you look at the whole. With things like Gran Tourismo still not going over.
Its inevitable we will all one day end up with just an app to play these games, MS are just trying to force it a little to soon in my opinion as technology is not quite there yet. The problem then goes back to folks buying into Sony's eco system in the meantime.
Plus things like Gamepass. While arguably a better service than Plus due to day one games, from a cost factor, Plus offers a bigger library at a cheaper price. Two very different approaches and I imagine folks could find the cheaper service the 'better' one for them.
Strange times ahead either way eh.
Sky Q being discontinued as such is mental isnt it. I read that the other day and did a double take. Streaming TV is very different to streaming games though, so in a way, I understand their move more when everyone is just watching Netflix, etc... anyway.
Edit: The flip side to MS going PC based, and ive said this a few times, is that all 'next gen' titles it plays will basically just be the Windows version. Not an 'xbox' port, as what's the point of essentially having two versions of the same code, one for xbox and one for PC, when the xbox is just a PC.
Now, if you imagine that jump had already taken place, big console games such as GTA 6 only release for PC at a much later date, effectively giving PS exclusivity as its the only true 'console' version. Rockstar themselves have said they focus on PC later due to the amount of variables the format has available. If xbox is running a PC version, as its essentially a PC, does that mean they will have to wait because to release it on the next box means all PC's will have access to it, and they dont want it releasing in a situation it may run terrible.
Not guaranteed obviously, but it does give food for thought.
Re: Fable Has Been 'Targeting' PS5 for a While, Potentially Day and Date
@OldGamer999 for me, the reason I dont think games like uncharted or spiderman will go is that if it happens, it gives xbox folks zero reason to buy a PS5.
Similar to now where people view an xbox as no longer needed because all games are on PS5. If people believe its gonna happen the other way, its sales lost and, more importantly, the opportunity to pull someone into the ecosystem lost.
Next gen isnt even about which console is the best anymore. Its simply about not screwing the pooch and pushing folks away. Last gen people started really building digital libraries. The majority of folks buying consoles arent like you or I. They are the casual market. They will buy the new machine that plays what they already own. Xbox is never going to sway that and they know it, so they sell the games where the people are playing them. Its also why they are going down the PC route and appealing to the hardcore fanbase who will pay a premium cost for it.
Xbox is shrinking (sadly) in terms of new people entering the ecosystem, Sony is growing as the more people buy your box, the more likely they purchase games digitally and buy a new sub service.
Which, for me at least, is probably why Sony doesn't feel the need to move its big single player hitters over. No point giving all the cards away when youre already holding the better hand.
Re: Xbox Sales Hit New Low in UK, Barely Competes with PS5 at This Point
@RPGamer1994 you are a sad, strange little man.
Buzz lightyear, toy story.
Re: Game of the Year: Push Square Readers' Top 20 PS5 Games of 2025
@Jammer @Fiendish-Beaver thanks both, appreciated.
Re: Game of the Year: Push Square Readers' Top 20 PS5 Games of 2025
@Fiendish-Beaver im swinging between Cronos and Silent Hill F as my next game. Just wondered if you had played SHF as well to get your thoughts?
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes Exclusives Make Consoles 'Sing'
@11001100110zero yeah gamepass absolutely beat PS Now and it made sense to roll it into plus; However plus numbers have always been greater. The last actual release of sub numbers from Plus was in March 2023 and it had 47.4 million subscribers. Gamepass had 34 million in early 2024 from MS's last released. Theres been a first few more sales of ps5's since then but I wouldn't be surprised if it had hovered around that mark since.
I mean, thats still a fair amount of change MS made from subs, but the fact it hadn't caught Sony up from almost a year earlier demonstrates the slow growth. Now with minimal sales of the console its likely not moving the needle anywhere near a rate they needed. Day on was always a gamble, which is what a good business does, it just didnt work out this time.
Also, didnt think it was a dunk my man, nice to have a good conversation!
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes Exclusives Make Consoles 'Sing'
@11001100110zero I think they pinned all their hopes on people swarming to gamepass and it just didn't happen. Day one games works well when you have millions upon millions of subs and it continues to grow. The bottom line is it simply didnt. If it was all rosey they wouldn't be trying to milk the more loyal fanbase for every penny.
Lets not forget, gamepass doesn't even have as many subs as ps plus based on the last recieved numbers. Admittedly these were a few years ago but they even rolled gold memberships into it and it was nowhere near. All those sales of PS5 will likely mean a slight growth when you take into account churn or, more likely, the number sitting around the same mark.
I dont want xbox to stop making boxes - proper boxes, not uber expensive pc lites - but I just dont see it happening. The next xbox will likely be an app overlay playing PC versions of 'next Gen' titles and emulated versions of older titles. I mentioned a while back that if this was happening right now, things like GTA 6 would effectively be a playstation exclusive as its not being released on last gen boxes and the pc lite xbox would be reliant on a PC version.
With the report over on purexbox that both Sony and MS are looking to push the new consoles back due to RAM costs, I just dont see where xbox goes other than a PC app.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes Exclusives Make Consoles 'Sing'
When the company who cant sell a console right now starts to put its games everywhere, thats not because they're good people.
Exclusives were everything to MS right up until sales plummeted. And then they wasnt.
Everything acquired in buyouts was going to be exclusives until they still struggled to sell consoles. Then it wasnt.
Exclusives matter as they sell your product. When your product isnt selling, then you make money back you invested in the games by putting them elsewhere.
Folks forever say well, MS gets a cut of every sale. They do. They also had to pay for development, advertising, publishing, etc... other platforms make money off these games with none of that overlay. Overlay which needs to be recouped.
Lets be honest, if gamepass was doing gangbusters then they wouldn't be doubling the price of it in one swoop. They certainly wouldn't be putting in house games elsewhere either.
The sad part of this is that we will all suffer from it as competition breeds innovation. And the main competition for Sony rolled over and bared its tummy the second it paid 78 billion dollars out.
Re: Game of the Year: Robert's Top 5 PS5 Games of 2025
Man, finally! DS2 is my top pick also. Its just so damn good. Both terms of visuals and gameplay. Just another level and I cannot get enough of it.
Re: Vince Zampella, Call of Duty Co-Creator and Respawn Boss, Tragically Dies Aged 55
Terrible news. RIP sir.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy Tops an Absurd 40 Million Copies Sold
@Joel_Lives or it could be people who wanted to buy it and enjoyed it. Its okay to dislike a game but why try to brush its sales numbers off as 'parents buying unwanted gifts'? Seems a bit daft.
Re: 'It's a Huge Upgrade': PS5 Pro Poised to Improve Massively in 2026
Im not holding out hope for bloober to be patching anything. Still waiting on a proper silent hill 2 fix.
Re: Geoff Keighley's Cryptic Post Has Fans Speculating Wildly About The Game Awards Announcement
One of the response on twitter shows the whole structure. Seems to be a few folks who have found it.
https://x.com/MagGamerInc/status/1994934622807859256?t=wgEpMKbl1rEK_lwqD62Eag&s=19
Re: PS5 Sales in Japan Quadruple as New Model Launches
@SuntannedDuck2 what are you playing on these days that so full of originality? I reckon I can hazard a guess.
Re: PS5 Sales in Japan Quadruple as New Model Launches
@SuntannedDuck2 jesus mate, this all just reads like a tantrum. I mean, its a console. Who cares.
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced in Sony's State of Play Livestream for November 2025?
That fatal frame 2 remake can get in my belly
Re: 'We Want to Be Everywhere, on Every Platform': Microsoft CEO Once Again Commits to PS5
@Striker21 its tge same with all these companies in that figures are announced with plenty of smoke and mirrors. I do agree it contributed in a way, but when you look at live services, tale into account they merged gold and gamepass, price increases, etc... Gamepass revenue actually shrank.
They all do it though, irmts not exclusive to MS/Xbox. As I say, not once in these figures do they mention spending 69 billion (and thats just one of the few companies they swallowed). Even adding everything up across the board, it doesn't dent that hole they started in.
Re: 'We Want to Be Everywhere, on Every Platform': Microsoft CEO Once Again Commits to PS5
@Striker21 thats revenue. Not profit. Big difference.
They spent 68 billion on Activision. They finished the year in a big hole profit wise.
Also while you have referenced the 70% cut of games sold on ps elsewhere, you fail to take into account development costs. Yes, Sony only get 30%, but that game didnt cost them a penny to make.
I get you are a big defender of the brand and thats fine, but you are throwing very selective details out.
Re: 'We Want to Be Everywhere, on Every Platform': Microsoft CEO Once Again Commits to PS5
@Striker21 when did it become about the profits and not the games.
And for the record, you are referring to Microsoft. Xbox profits where absolutely not record breaking.
Re: 'We Want to Be Everywhere, on Every Platform': Microsoft CEO Once Again Commits to PS5
@LifeGirl to be fair to him, it feels like pure xbox is winding down these days. They rarely review games that arent on gamepass, opting for review roundup 'heres what people are saying about...' articles and only seem to post 3 or four articles on a good day.
I hope im wrong as they are a good bunch, but the vibe is there.
Re: Loulan: The Cursed Sand Looks Like Another Must Play PS5 Console Exclusive
Well, this has my attention.
Re: 'Our Biggest Competition Isn't Another Console': Xbox Doubles Down on Multiformat After Halo PS5 Shock
@Striker21 this would all be accurate if the majority of sales in this space didnt come from the casual market. People who care about a crossbred box for steam, epic, etc... are a tiny minority compared to the mass market buying these things.
While it may feel like a step forward for us, the bulk simply wont care. They will just buy the box that plays the games they already own.
Happened with the shift from PS4 to PS5 and those game collections have grown. Will repeat from PS5 to PS6.
MS know they cant shift that needle.
Re: Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora's Third-Person Update Practically Makes It a New PS5 Game
Im actually quite interested in this now.
Re: PS6 Release Date Touted for 2027, Cheaper But Less Powerful Than Next Xbox
At the end of the day, power is irrelevant. Its gonna take a minor miracle to get everyone that has built a digital library of games across PS4 and PS5 to just drop them and go to a new eco system.
PS6 will play them and once that message is clear, folks will just pick that up and carry on. The vast majority of sales come from people who dont even know sites like this exist. They dont bicker over which box does what. They will just hear that all the games they already own can be played on the new box and thats enough.
Hell, the only reason MS are looking to include steam is because they cant get PS owners to switch over. So they can use what they already in terms of PC tech to entice steam users to buy their new box. Its not to be nice to us gamers. Its simply the only way to get new purchasers on gamepass, because nothing else has worked.
Re: PS6 Release Date Touted for 2027, Cheaper But Less Powerful Than Next Xbox
In a word, meh. Just..... meh.
Re: PS6 May Go Uncontested as Rumours of Next-Gen Xbox Cancellation Force Microsoft to Comment
@Dogbreath The catch here is Sony arent trying to buy up half the market and MS will still be the biggest publisher in the world (if they drop out of the hardware business, which is hope they dont).
Re: PS6 May Go Uncontested as Rumours of Next-Gen Xbox Cancellation Force Microsoft to Comment
@darylb24 apologies if my point was missed. I do agree they should update it with the statement put out. It was more for the other more ardent fans that take every word they say as fact.
This is all speculation at the minute on both sides, but it jas reached a point where the statements Microsoft put out carry the same weight as some commenter on a forum.
Apologies again for confusion pal.
Re: PS6 May Go Uncontested as Rumours of Next-Gen Xbox Cancellation Spiral
@darylb24 was the statement saying its only 4 games? That turned out accurate.
Was it about not releasing indiana jones on PS? Thats another bullseye.
Was it about how they wont increase prices or lay folks off if they get abk? They called that on the money.
My point is, as with any exec or official statement, not just from MS, it ain't worth sh*t.
Re: 'Told You So': Ex-FTC Chair Lina Khan Is Having the Last Laugh Over Xbox's Activision Acquisition
@RoomWithaMoose imagine being this annoyed that a gaming website reported on gaming news.
Re: 'Told You So': Ex-FTC Chair Lina Khan Is Having the Last Laugh Over Xbox's Activision Acquisition
@RoomWithaMoose If a site only reports the positive and ignores the negatives then, by your logic, that would also make it a fanboy site viewing the world through a lense.
I will wait for you to direct me to an article on Pure Xbox discussing this topic.
Re: Xbox Squandered Over $300 Million Putting Call of Duty in Game Pass
@RIGGOR_MORTIS christ.
Re: Xbox Squandered Over $300 Million Putting Call of Duty in Game Pass
@SMJ Im with you, I always say im a fan of games, not the box that plays them. It just came across in your comment a little like you were swinging from one side. Many of the points you raise arent relevant to this article. I do get it may have been unintended.
I also agree with you in that this was clearly a bit click baity to the blue side of the fence. Then again, Pure Xbox isnt reporting on the comments, so i guess someone has to.
Damned if you do, damned if you dont really.
Re: Xbox Squandered Over $300 Million Putting Call of Duty in Game Pass
@SMJ I mean, I get what youre saying, but it kinda comes across like you're upset because they arent cheering for your plastic box.
Re: 'Told You So': Ex-FTC Chair Lina Khan Is Having the Last Laugh Over Xbox's Activision Acquisition
It’s pretty much getting to a point that the only defenders of this move are the staunchest of Xbox fans. Even on Pure Xbox there are people turning away in droves. I feel for the folks running that place as, while there are some good things in the oven game wise, there is consistent noise that overpowers everything. Usually from MS’s own doing.
I’m just waiting for folks to realise the Rog Ally is not an Xbox and there will be further uproar.
Re: Silent Hill F Is Another Game That Stumbles on PS5 Pro
I mean, we are still waiting for the Silent Hill 2 fix for pro so I wouldnt be holding my hopes up for a quick fix.
Re: Beware! Silent Hill F PS5 Spoilers Could Soon Start Seeping Online
@Slayer25c appreciated, thank you.
Re: Beware! Silent Hill F PS5 Spoilers Could Soon Start Seeping Online
Hey Sammy, when are reviews expected to drop for this one? Im straddling the fence like a Cowboy on if i should pick it up.
Re: As Sony Doubles Down on Anime, Demon Slayer Breaks Box Office Records
@LifeGirl the distinctly average fantastic four has pulled in over 515 million dollars. I think doomsday will likely break the billion mark.
Time will tell i guess
Re: 'It Saved the Game': Sword of the Sea Dev Praises Sony, Explains PS Plus Deal
@RoomWithaMoose I do get your points my man and im not taking anything away from them. I just saw the GP article as one about dealing with the pressures and problems of putting AAA games on a sub, day one. Obviously that applies more to Gamepass, but it also applies to Plus on occasion and also demonstrates why Sony maybe avoided it. The comments and quotes were negative in tone, that cant be changed but the points apply to all subs. The fact it doesn't really apply to plus is likely why it doesn't mention it. AAA games just dont drop day one on plus, so its not really a factor.
This article is more about how subs could help smaller studios. It just so happens that this is related to the playstation side on a playstation site, but I imagine the principle of the tale applies more so to gamepass as xbox really pushed indie studios on Gamepass and likely helped more in the same way we see here.
I do get why people are disgruntled but all this Gamepass/Plus bashing talk is just silly. Its gaming news that shows the positive and negatives of the current trend, subs. Personally, im not a fan of them but I can see how they help smaller studios regardless of which sub they are on. I also see how they cripple bigger studios trying to recoup costs.
Bring back tape cassettes I say 😂
Re: 'It Saved the Game': Sword of the Sea Dev Praises Sony, Explains PS Plus Deal
@RoomWithaMoose The article focused more on Gamepass as the folks making the comments were doing so in relation to a MS AAA studio releasing games day one on a sub. Plus doesn't go this route regularly (if ever), so the point was more related to the negative side of that method and the struggles it causes. As confirmed by the people making the comments.
This one relates to a positive side of releasing on a sub. It could apply either way, to either sub, regardless of the company.
Re: 'It Saved the Game': Sword of the Sea Dev Praises Sony, Explains PS Plus Deal
I think this sums up things really. Smaller titles, such as this, can benefit or flourish from being on a plus/gamepass type sub. It gets the game into hands and can benefit developers who need funding. As this confirms.
The flip side is big AAA's (which is what the gamepass article related to the other day in regard to bethesda), can find it a challenge as development costs aren't an issue, but recouping them when put on a sub will be.
Re: Cronos: The New Dawn, Hell Is Us Compete with Popular Favourites in UK Physical Charts
@Fiendish-Beaver I tried the demo for hell is us over the weekend and I immediately knew I would love it. Gonna pick it up over the next week or so I think
Re: Even More Ex-Xbox Executives Speak Out About 'Tension' of Game Pass
@Rodster Hey! Welcome. Good post and its always good to get balanced, well explained opinions, so dont apologise!
I agree with everything you have said. Gamepass is great value, but its almost like its too good value. So much so that its hobbled itself. A lot of folks have used loophole upon loophole to stack their subs and use valid things (like reward points) to play 50, 60, 70 pound games for nothing. There comes a point were it has to bite.
I know people shout about record profits and the like but, like you, I just play the games I want to play on whatever box plays them. If someone let's me play a day one release for one pound then you can bet your ass im gonna use that to play it. Its just got to hit a wall at some point.
Excellent collection by the way. Hope you choose to stick around 🙂
Re: Preview: Masters of the Brawliverse! The New Retro He-Man Game Hits Hard
@get2sammyb the real question here is did you repeatedly ask them to make a Thundercats game?
Re: PS5 Stunner Phantom Blade Zero Looks Out of This World in New Gameplay Trailer
@Snick27 they already did. Theres a link to it right there in the article.
Re: Shameful AI Ads Put the Spotlight on The First Descendant
Jesus thats haunting and wrong on an incredible level. Who on earth even signed off on this?!?!
Re: Take a Trip to the Dark Ages in PS Plus Premium Trial of New DOOM on PS5
Surely letting more people access the trial would lead to more sales. I dont see the point of locking them behind a tier.
Re: Jurassic Park Survival Is Shaping Up to Be a Dream PS5 Single Player Game
Please god just be good. That’s all I ask.
Re: Rumour: Starfield PS5 to Take Flight Alongside New Expansion Next Year
If you enjoyed Starfield then fair play to you. I just could not get on with it at all.
Re: Rumour: Sony to Put More First-Party PS5 Games on Xbox
@Lup shinobi is a pretty reliable source who actually works for/with developers. Plus the man cooks some awesome bbq judging off the pictures he puts out.