Add those to the figures you gave, the total is 7.37 million units, meaning 2.6 million sales between Homecoming, Downpour, Shattered Memories, Book of Memories and the HD Collection. Average of around 526k sales between them, although I think we can all agree Book of Memories did not get anywhere near that so you could split most of it's numbers among the rest. HD Collection is a trainwreck but it probably sold well because of the reputation of the games it remastered, unfortunately it was the most accessible way to play Silent Hill 2 for a while.
Financially speaking, that era of the franchise wasn't in the worst position compared to the declining sales of the first 5 games. Critically speaking is a different matter though.
At least now we have both good sales and (mostly) good reviews so far.
@twitchtvpat @RudeAnimat0r I also enjoyed Downpour. It might be my favourite post Team Silent, pre SH2 Remake game.
I get the one thing at a time argument for new games. But ports/remasters of their older games should only need about a year. They wouldn't require Sucker Punch themselves to deliver them either. Plenty of studios whose speciality is converting older games to newer platforms.
For Sly Cooper, you could get XDEV to find a talented indie team that's made some good platformers and have a few people from Sucker Punch overseeing the project. You don't need to go AAA for Sly, that fanbase would be pleased with another PS2 style game.
@Uromastryx The concept of Dynasty Warriors remakes generally are funny to me. They're so iterative, they could get away with changing a few things around and selling this as DW10 (or 11?).
@windxtravelerx I don't think they're being selective. I'm sure those games will come eventually, it's better to space them out. Square Enix tried releasing a bunch of games in quick succession a few years ago and they all struggled to sell.
Some of the default PSN avatars are Beat Hazard themed. I found it funny considering the game was not available on current Playstation systems for the last decade. Now it's rectified!
Seems like this will be a key part of Sony's strategy for Japan. They won't dethrone Nintendo, but they can certainly claw back some of the ground they lost in the last decade.
@Lowdefal Yeah even other handhelds like Steam Deck are dockable.
I'd prefer new titles, but if they aim to make Delta versions of later games in the timeline they should be a little more daring. All MGS3 needed to feel modern was a few tweaks, but I can't see a remake of MGS1 that plays it as safe as the MGS3 remake going down well for $70/80. They would need more of an RE2 remake approach. The MSX games would also need to basically be brand new games, if they intend on touching those. Portable Ops could work with a rejig (with a new name since it won't be quite as portable).
No Xillia 2 is a bit of a shame, but I'm sure it's next on the list of remasters. I'll take it, Xillia 1 was my first Tales game and I've honestly not spent much time with the other games in the series (mainly just Xillia 2, the Vita game and Symphonia Chronicles, the rest I either didn't play or I didn't get far), this might be a great way to get fully into the series.
They should drop the 2 and just call it Lords of the Fallen again, just like the last two games. Keep it going as a recurring thing for every entry in the franchise to have the same title.
That sucks. It's not a deal breaker, I was going to buy it before we knew they were including multiplayer, but it's a shame. The Metal Gear community is split between PS and PC (with a few Xbox people), even if there won't be a large playerbase a year from now there will still be a small but dedicated playerbase so it would be nice to have crossplay.
Just to let everybody know and to illustrate the point, you can still get matches going in MGSV's MGO as well as Survive (yes, really) and those are pretty old now.
@TrollOfWar They did have Konami ID back in the day for MGS4. I don't know how intensive it would be on their resources to get that going again though.
When are they going to add a native resolution integer upscale option for the classic games? PS1 games in particular do not look pretty when rendered in high resolutions. Give me 240/480p!
@Simulated-Soul There are plenty of PS1/2 classics on the new program that didn't have trophies. Most got them added later but some still remain, with RE1 and Dino Crisis being two examples like Rocky said.
@Neither_scene Also have a day 1 PS5, I've been using it much more regularly than you however, still not noticed any overheating issue. This comment section is the first I'm hearing of it. Maybe I'm just lucky.
@J4yRizzle83 @sanderson72 I think Peacock stuff falls under Paramount Plus in the UK. Paramount Plus being available either as it's own app or as a subscription on Prime Video.
@Bingoboyop They discontinued PS4 Pro while making way for PS5, I expect the same to happen especially if the PS6 will be more powerful and substantially cheaper.
@PuppetMaster But that's also spread across 6 games and 3 re-releases vs 2 games. GoW 1 and 2 each sold approximately 5 million each, 3 sold 9 across both versions, Ascension and Chains at 3 million, Ghost at 1. Ragnarok sold over 15 million and 2018 over 23.
@PuppetMaster To be fair, just by looking at sales figures it's clear most of the God of War fanbase now have only played the Norse games, so not much will be changing there sadly.
@UltimateOtaku91 You've nailed it, Final Fantasy's golden age had zero serious competition in the western markets (mostly just Pokemon). Nowadays you're positively spoiled for choice with not just Japanese, but Asian RPGs in general.
@Oram77 Agreed. They could probably provide some ideas on how to reduce budget while still keeping AAA quality presentation though, which would be helpful for Square considering how their sales are apparently never enough to meet their expectations.
@ZeroSum The Lilithascends social media accounts were made around the time of the contest launching and promptly shut down once the accusations came about, so the only artwork we have to go off are the three pieces they submitted which are all AI generated (two of which are directly plagiarising the work of three artists).
There is literally no way for anyone to know the level of talent they might have. All we do know is they broke the rules of the contest by using generative AI and blatantly plagiarised other people in the process. Based on all the information we have at hand, it is entirely fair to say this person is a fraud. Your charitable interpretation that they may not have realised one of the rules was not to use AI is naive, surely you should read the rules of a contest you're participating in, so I see no excuse for this.
At best, you are correct that we don't know 100% for certain how talented they might be as an artist when not being a thief, but the implication isn't charitable and their character definitely shows in the choices made.
@Pacific Same as that Kadokawa situation, it was purely about the anime and manga business but all of the reporting was about the gaming implications with fearmongering about Sony making From Soft exclusive. I'd imagine the same thing will happen again.
I take it James Gunn will be too busy to contribute to this expanded Lollipop Chainsaw universe then? I reckon he could squeeze it in between Supergirl and Batman.
@DennisReynolds If we're lucky PS6 back-compat might fix the performance haha. Slapping UE5 on top of the Creation Engine worked about as well as you would've expected it to. Could've been a song if they did as you suggested and went with a more modest Skyrim Special Edition style upgrade.
Next we'll probably have the 'pleasure' of seeing Fallout 3/New Vegas get the same treatment.
@Balaam_ You're glad that they've gotten rid of something that actually rewarded people with a little saving on purchases here and there because of some silly trinkets that were entirely ignorable? They only ever appeared on the app.
Nobody is going to switch from PS5 to Xbox because they ported Helldivers. Even if you'll be able to play the PS-PC ports on the next Xbox via Steam, the amount of people who will switch are slim.
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Re: Fallout 4 Anniversary Edition: All New Content, All Creation Club DLC Listed
Skyrim's Anniversary Edition upgrade was £10 - half the price - and had way better creations.
Re: Rumour: Halo 2, Halo 3 Remakes Also Purportedly Planned for PS5
@vrubayka MCC is probably held together with tape after all of the updates to it.
Re: 'Significant' Layoffs Are Set to Hit Amazon Game Studios
@dskatter It had an interesting hook of having you go through playable versions of actual episodes. It was utter pants though.
Re: 'Significant' Layoffs Are Set to Hit Amazon Game Studios
@dskatter There's uhhhhh... The Grand Tour Game?
Re: First PS Plus Essential Game for November 2025 Leaked
@Jammer Platform action? Oh, you must mean a jumping simulator!
Re: Halo Confirmed for PS5, Remake of First Game Out in 2026
I'd have greatly preferred MCC.
Re: The Silent Hill 2 Remake Now Represents a Quarter of the Series' Total Sales
@PuppetMaster To add to your numbers, we have:
SH2R: 2.5 million
SHf: 1 million
Add those to the figures you gave, the total is 7.37 million units, meaning 2.6 million sales between Homecoming, Downpour, Shattered Memories, Book of Memories and the HD Collection. Average of around 526k sales between them, although I think we can all agree Book of Memories did not get anywhere near that so you could split most of it's numbers among the rest. HD Collection is a trainwreck but it probably sold well because of the reputation of the games it remastered, unfortunately it was the most accessible way to play Silent Hill 2 for a while.
Financially speaking, that era of the franchise wasn't in the worst position compared to the declining sales of the first 5 games. Critically speaking is a different matter though.
At least now we have both good sales and (mostly) good reviews so far.
@twitchtvpat @RudeAnimat0r I also enjoyed Downpour. It might be my favourite post Team Silent, pre SH2 Remake game.
Re: As Fans Demand inFAMOUS Remasters, Sucker Punch Says It Can Only Work on One Game at a Time
I get the one thing at a time argument for new games. But ports/remasters of their older games should only need about a year. They wouldn't require Sucker Punch themselves to deliver them either. Plenty of studios whose speciality is converting older games to newer platforms.
For Sly Cooper, you could get XDEV to find a talented indie team that's made some good platformers and have a few people from Sucker Punch overseeing the project. You don't need to go AAA for Sly, that fanbase would be pleased with another PS2 style game.
Re: New PS4 Games Release Dates in 2025
Should probably remove that Elder Scrolls Legends listing
Re: 'If This Doesn't Sell, There Won't Be a Next One': Dynasty Warriors 3 Remake Producer Asks for Support
@Uromastryx The concept of Dynasty Warriors remakes generally are funny to me. They're so iterative, they could get away with changing a few things around and selling this as DW10 (or 11?).
It's like asking for a remake of Gran Turismo 3.
Re: Gungrave G.O.R.E. Is Getting a Full PS5 Remake Just 3 Years After Its Original Release
@KundaliniRising333 Why remake a disappointing game? The answer is within your question.
Re: Forza Horizon 6 Announced, But Not on PS5 at Launch
@Ricky-Spanish Tourists. You know, people who visit somewhere on a tour.
Re: Classic Cyberpunk RPG Deus Ex Is Being Remastered on PS5 in February 2026
@AinsleyE the saving grace of Aspyr remasters is you can usually disable the "enhanced" graphics.
Re: Classic Cyberpunk RPG Deus Ex Is Being Remastered on PS5 in February 2026
Aspyr threatens to dump all over another classic game with a horrible remaster that should have been handled by a team that cares like Night Dive.
Re: 'More People Will Experience Our World': Final Fantasy 7 Remake Trilogy Sheds PS5 Exclusivity
@windxtravelerx I don't think they're being selective. I'm sure those games will come eventually, it's better to space them out. Square Enix tried releasing a bunch of games in quick succession a few years ago and they all struggled to sell.
Re: 'More People Will Experience Our World': Final Fantasy 7 Remake Trilogy Sheds PS5 Exclusivity
@ShadowRJ It's way more about Nintendo than Xbox frankly
Re: 8 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for September 2025 Announced
Couldn't even get one PS1 game for the 30th anniversary month of the western launch?
Re: Memorable PS3 Rhythm Shooter Beat Hazard Returns to PS5, PS4 Later This Month
Some of the default PSN avatars are Beat Hazard themed. I found it funny considering the game was not available on current Playstation systems for the last decade. Now it's rectified!
Re: Free PS5 Game Still Not Fixed on PS Store, Claim It While You Can
Of course it was fixed by the time I see this article.
Re: Metal Gear Solid Delta Patch Promised, But No Mention of PS5 Performance Improvements
It's not a locked 60fps but honestly I don't mind the performance here. I think a 40fps option would do the trick for me though.
Re: Rumour: PS6 Handheld Device Can Be Docked Like Nintendo Switch 2
Seems like this will be a key part of Sony's strategy for Japan. They won't dethrone Nintendo, but they can certainly claw back some of the ground they lost in the last decade.
@Lowdefal Yeah even other handhelds like Steam Deck are dockable.
Re: Konami Wants to 'Consider Lots of Other Games' for Remake Treatment if MGS Delta Succeeds
I'd prefer new titles, but if they aim to make Delta versions of later games in the timeline they should be a little more daring. All MGS3 needed to feel modern was a few tweaks, but I can't see a remake of MGS1 that plays it as safe as the MGS3 remake going down well for $70/80. They would need more of an RE2 remake approach. The MSX games would also need to basically be brand new games, if they intend on touching those. Portable Ops could work with a rejig (with a new name since it won't be quite as portable).
Re: Tales of Xillia Remastered Releases October for PS5, Xillia 2 Not Included
@Questionable_Duck I'm sure we will get 2. It's not exactly like Symphonia's sequel in terms of reception.
Re: Tales of Xillia Remastered Releases October for PS5, Xillia 2 Not Included
No Xillia 2 is a bit of a shame, but I'm sure it's next on the list of remasters. I'll take it, Xillia 1 was my first Tales game and I've honestly not spent much time with the other games in the series (mainly just Xillia 2, the Vita game and Symphonia Chronicles, the rest I either didn't play or I didn't get far), this might be a great way to get fully into the series.
Re: Action RPG Lords of the Fallen 2 Reveal Confirmed for Next Week
They should drop the 2 and just call it Lords of the Fallen again, just like the last two games. Keep it going as a recurring thing for every entry in the franchise to have the same title.
Re: Delayed Metal Gear Solid Delta Multiplayer Won't Support Crossplay on PS5, Xbox, PC
That sucks. It's not a deal breaker, I was going to buy it before we knew they were including multiplayer, but it's a shame. The Metal Gear community is split between PS and PC (with a few Xbox people), even if there won't be a large playerbase a year from now there will still be a small but dedicated playerbase so it would be nice to have crossplay.
Just to let everybody know and to illustrate the point, you can still get matches going in MGSV's MGO as well as Survive (yes, really) and those are pretty old now.
@TrollOfWar They did have Konami ID back in the day for MGS4. I don't know how intensive it would be on their resources to get that going again though.
Re: 12 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for August 2025 Announced
@Simulated-Soul These are 2025 releases. Trophies are not mandatory for the PS Plus Classics.
Re: 12 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for August 2025 Announced
When are they going to add a native resolution integer upscale option for the classic games? PS1 games in particular do not look pretty when rendered in high resolutions. Give me 240/480p!
@Simulated-Soul There are plenty of PS1/2 classics on the new program that didn't have trophies. Most got them added later but some still remain, with RE1 and Dino Crisis being two examples like Rocky said.
Re: Simple Death Stranding 2 PS5 Patch 1.08 Fixes Camera Issues
@Neither_scene Also have a day 1 PS5, I've been using it much more regularly than you however, still not noticed any overheating issue. This comment section is the first I'm hearing of it. Maybe I'm just lucky.
Re: Sony CEO Hiroki Totoki Visited Hideo Kojima as Attention Turns to Physint
Hiroki Titoki Literature Club
Re: The Big Suikoden Livestream Was a Bust (Unless You're into the Mobile Game)
I'm sure remasters of the other games and a new console game will come eventually, but 1 and 2 did only just come out to be fair.
Re: Twisted Metal's Anticipated Second Season Debuts with Three Episodes
@J4yRizzle83 @sanderson72 I think Peacock stuff falls under Paramount Plus in the UK. Paramount Plus being available either as it's own app or as a subscription on Prime Video.
Re: Rumour: Leaked PS6 Specs Reveal Affordable, Power Efficient Next-Gen Console
@Bingoboyop They discontinued PS4 Pro while making way for PS5, I expect the same to happen especially if the PS6 will be more powerful and substantially cheaper.
Re: God of War TV Series 'Honours' Norse Games, Teases Greek Saga
@PuppetMaster But that's also spread across 6 games and 3 re-releases vs 2 games. GoW 1 and 2 each sold approximately 5 million each, 3 sold 9 across both versions, Ascension and Chains at 3 million, Ghost at 1. Ragnarok sold over 15 million and 2018 over 23.
Re: UK Citizens Using the Photorealistic Death Stranding 2 on PS5 to Bypass Porn Blocks
@Olmaz "how is it against "LGBTQ..." by limiting access to porn???"
The problem is this is limiting access to more than just porn, it's any content that is "inappropriate" for children.
Re: God of War TV Series 'Honours' Norse Games, Teases Greek Saga
@PuppetMaster To be fair, just by looking at sales figures it's clear most of the God of War fanbase now have only played the Norse games, so not much will be changing there sadly.
Re: Expedition 33 Devs 'Exchange Ideas' with Final Fantasy Team
@UltimateOtaku91 You've nailed it, Final Fantasy's golden age had zero serious competition in the western markets (mostly just Pokemon). Nowadays you're positively spoiled for choice with not just Japanese, but Asian RPGs in general.
Re: Expedition 33 Devs 'Exchange Ideas' with Final Fantasy Team
@Oram77 Agreed. They could probably provide some ideas on how to reduce budget while still keeping AAA quality presentation though, which would be helpful for Square considering how their sales are apparently never enough to meet their expectations.
Re: Street Fighter 6 Community Rocked by AI Art Controversy
@ZeroSum The Lilithascends social media accounts were made around the time of the contest launching and promptly shut down once the accusations came about, so the only artwork we have to go off are the three pieces they submitted which are all AI generated (two of which are directly plagiarising the work of three artists).
There is literally no way for anyone to know the level of talent they might have. All we do know is they broke the rules of the contest by using generative AI and blatantly plagiarised other people in the process. Based on all the information we have at hand, it is entirely fair to say this person is a fraud. Your charitable interpretation that they may not have realised one of the rules was not to use AI is naive, surely you should read the rules of a contest you're participating in, so I see no excuse for this.
At best, you are correct that we don't know 100% for certain how talented they might be as an artist when not being a thief, but the implication isn't charitable and their character definitely shows in the choices made.
Google Doc showing the submissions and the art pieces that were plagiarised: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vRuYXWbOATa7jxlopgSXwR41pEHKB14zA0oJYjCnPWYwjuzBSRpBOgAEFyLtGZoNdZqMJHDO6KOiWs3/pub?pli=1
Re: Sony Invests in Elden Ring Publisher Bandai Namco, Signs Strategic Partnership
@Pacific Same as that Kadokawa situation, it was purely about the anime and manga business but all of the reporting was about the gaming implications with fearmongering about Sony making From Soft exclusive. I'd imagine the same thing will happen again.
Re: In Unsurprising News, Even More Xbox Ports Are Allegedly En Route to PS5
Master Chief Collection, add Halo 5 to it. Then Infinite later. It should be so easy.
Re: Looks Like There's Going to Be a New Lollipop Chainsaw Game
I take it James Gunn will be too busy to contribute to this expanded Lollipop Chainsaw universe then? I reckon he could squeeze it in between Supergirl and Batman.
Re: Oblivion Remastered Patch 1.2 Out Now, Adds New Difficulty Options, Improves Performance, More
@DennisReynolds If we're lucky PS6 back-compat might fix the performance haha. Slapping UE5 on top of the Creation Engine worked about as well as you would've expected it to. Could've been a song if they did as you suggested and went with a more modest Skyrim Special Edition style upgrade.
Next we'll probably have the 'pleasure' of seeing Fallout 3/New Vegas get the same treatment.
Re: PS Stars Program Marks Its Eventual Shut Down with One Last Collectible
@Balaam_ You're glad that they've gotten rid of something that actually rewarded people with a little saving on purchases here and there because of some silly trinkets that were entirely ignorable? They only ever appeared on the app.
Re: Twisted Metal Shapes Up for Another Season of Sublimely Stupid Television
Wasn't expecting Live action Axel. They are going all out.
Re: Final Fantasy 9 Picture Book Will Flesh Out Vivi's Backstory
Hope we don't get that remake. FF9 is a perfect game.
Re: 'I Much Prefer PS Plus' Lifecycle Management Strategy': Devs Weigh in on Crippling Xbox Game Pass Impact
@trev666 That first comment is also blatant sarcasm.
Re: Reaction: Helldivers 2 on Xbox Signals Another Unexpected But Not Overly Surprising Shift in Strategy from Sony
@Ernie I'm obviously joking. Ports don't just materialise out of thin air, this has been in the works for months. The layoffs happened this week.
Re: PS5 Fans Divided Over Helldivers 2 on Xbox Pivot
Nobody is going to switch from PS5 to Xbox because they ported Helldivers. Even if you'll be able to play the PS-PC ports on the next Xbox via Steam, the amount of people who will switch are slim.
Re: Reaction: Helldivers 2 on Xbox Signals Another Unexpected But Not Overly Surprising Shift in Strategy from Sony
Sony giving Xbox fans a bone after the layoffs and cancellations.