No Ghost of Yotei, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined! Wasn't a fan of Returnal and with the setting of the new game seeming to be similar, I'll be giving it a miss.
Know a lot of people enjoy his games, but Death Stranding is just not a game for me. Though had stopped playing metal gear solid as well towards then end.
@nomither6 Strange comment. You know nothing about me but assume I haven't anything but a PS5 and poor Internet. As if I'd only have a PS5 Pro and nothing else. Come on son.
@nomither6 Yea, everyone should get everything free. You don't need PSN to play fortnite and I'm sure it's the same for other f2p games. ** Sick of this culture that seems to have popped up after covid that believes they should get everything for free. Like what else do u expect for free? Maybe a mobile or even your broadband paid for? *** No, they're businesses giving people a service, why shouldn't they get paid for it? Like why would Sony not want to get back the money they're paying to MS to host their services? Hasn't happened since 2011 and it was only down for a day.
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Your playing a free game and getting free online. What compensation do u think u should be given for the nothing that you're spending?
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Furloughing people was the worst thing. Has given them a sense that they should get everything free and other people will pay for them.
How far in the future are they trying to make people worry about. PS3 still online. PS4 still online. It's not like the PS6 is going to come out and Sony will just shutdown everything on the PS5. It would be safe to say you'll be able to play PS4 and PS5 games on the PS6 and onwards.
My voting for all these will be I've already got it on Xbox so don't need to buy it again. Only people with just the PS5 will be buying these games. For me I'll not be buying any games that I can play through GPU.
@AdamNovice They'll all be over on PS soon, especially if Horizon does well. Only thing is if they wait to the next installment of each to release on PS or do additional work and release the older games before the next installment. Think Starfield will release on PS this year as well.
@Darude84 I don't think he's comparing them directly. Like Mario Kart is also mentioned. Think they mean in terms of what each game offers. GT7 is the best sim racer and Horizon is the best arcade racer. They're both on different levels to other games that compare to them. Forza Motorsport was really bad when it launched, but is a lot better now. The main issue I have with it now is it's single player is live service! The single player career is not a proper career of races that are always available. It's just some races that are available for a month and then gone. It's handy though to use for the MS reward points for playing a game for 15 minutes.
Great game, have really enjoyed all the Horizon games. Though 2 and 4 are my personal faves. Booted up the first one a couple of months ago, just for old times. The game looks great on the series X, so should look stunning on the Pro. MS have heard the complaints about Sony not releasing enough exclusives on PS5 so MS have decided to share their exclusives.
So he's not settled down then? Or maybe something happens that pulls him into the Egyptian mythology. Will be a day 1 purchase for me. Hope it's a big full game. Still hope they release the smaller game that follows Atreus after ragnarok as well.
@LogicStrikesAgain Thanks, oh yes both will cost money and you don't really get anything for free nowadays. Like the MS reward points take time to collect everyday.
I get where ur coming from as well with people saying games are free when they're renting them. I guess they're viewed as free as its a game getting added to the service that they've already been paid for.
This year does look to be a spectacular year for GPU in terms of value. Which is probably the first time that could be said. Last year was good with Indy and COD.
Too many games and not enough time or storage room. 😂
@LogicStrikesAgain It is if you don't pay for GPU. 🙂
Should look into MS reward points while they're not as good as they used to be, they will bring the price down. The closest I've gotten to paying full price for GP since it released was buying a few years worth of EA play and converting.
My GPU doesn't run out until August 2026 and then I'll just get another year with my points. Since they've brought down the amount you can stack to 13 months.
Also there's more than just 1 game to play on the service. Ive played many games that I wouldn't have tried but did because they were "free". Also saved money by being able to try games first before actually buying them on the PS5.
You should check out the games that are being added this year. If u want to play a game that's leaving u can buy it for a discount. Or wait a bit longer and buy it in a sale. Though I don't buy games on the Xbox, I use it just for GPU.
Just my thoughts on the whole "you're renting games" argument against GPU. When I was young we used to rent games from stores for 1 or 2 nights at a time.
Perhaps the only game I'll be buying this year is Ghost of Yotei. The sooner it comes out the better as I've nearly finished my 4th play through of Ghost of Tsushima.
@YoureTooSlowBro I guess when you believe you are correct you can just go all in on being condescending.
So my opinion is different from urs, so obviously I've just been brainwashed. It's not possible that my opinion has been created from actually having had any experience playing live service games?
Yes there are loads of single player games that have failed. How many of these are from Sony?
Remember though, there's a lot more single player games released than live service games every year.
Astro Bot didn't sell? It had sold 1.5 million copies in November.
@YoureTooSlowBro Would love to see what Sony could make or buy with the money it's made from their live service venture so far. People keep saying they just need 1 hit. How many live service hits has there been? Fortnite, rocket league and Apex? How many have failed? Regarding the single player games. They could make the big budget games but also could make a lot more smaller scale games like Astro Bot.
Cancel Fairgame$ and Horizon and just leave bungie to work on marathon and hope it lasts longer than Concord. Then never look at live service ever again.
Wasted soo much time, money and effort for nothing. Said years ago they should have gone for ubisoft instead of bungie. At least with ubisoft they would have gotten a pile of single player IPs as well as the live service experience that ubi have. Hopefully there is something they can salvage from what they were working on. Like story ideas and game assets to then maybe they could use them to quickly fire out a few short single player game or 2. Would fill up some gaps until they get working on their next projects. Would be interesting to see how their live service game was going to work when set in the GOW universe. Hopefully all other live service projects are cancelled other than what bungie are working on.
Wish someone would pay me to make random guesses. If anything MS are the most likely to pull out of the console market. As they're moving more into publishing and getting GP on everything. Saying it's been between Sony and MS makes no sense.
When GPU starts costing me money in a couple of years time and they're releasing all their games to PlayStation after a timed exclusive then I'll be ditching the Xbox.
@OldGamer999 Started doing the MS reward points again with the news that COD was going to be on GPU from day one. Mostly been playing Forza Motorsport. Its far better than it was when it first released. Thought GT7 is better. Though have played some random games as well to get the achievements for the monthly 1000 MS reward points.
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Re: 9 New PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Yours to Download Now
Last month of premium for me. Dropping down to Extra next month. Hardly ever use anything given by premium, so decided to drop and save nearly £40.
Re: Reaction: Xbox Publishing More Games on PS5 Than Sony Is Not a Gotcha, It's Just a Sign of the Times
The safest of safest predictions that there. 😂
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's State of Play for February 2025?
No Ghost of Yotei, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined! Wasn't a fan of Returnal and with the setting of the new game seeming to be similar, I'll be giving it a miss.
Re: Sony XDEV Says 'Lots Riding on' PS5 Livestream Today
Know a lot of people enjoy his games, but Death Stranding is just not a game for me. Though had stopped playing metal gear solid as well towards then end.
Re: What Time Is PlayStation's State of Play for February 2025?
I say we start a riot if there's no Ghost of Yotei!
😂
Re: State of Play Confirmed for Wednesday, 40+ Minutes of PS5 News and Updates
@Lyonjak Think they'll def all be out this year. Also Starfield
Re: State of Play Confirmed for Wednesday, 40+ Minutes of PS5 News and Updates
Ghost of Yotei date with the pre-order going live soon after. I wouldn't say no to a remake of all the GoW games either though.
Re: All Eyes on Rumoured State of Play Later This Week
Yotei date and pre-order please please please
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@nomither6 Strange comment. You know nothing about me but assume I haven't anything but a PS5 and poor Internet. As if I'd only have a PS5 Pro and nothing else. Come on son.
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@CielloArc 100% Just have to look at messages from @nomither6 to see this is true. 😂
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@Mikey856 13 years ago and still not over it.
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@RiverGenie Normal people seem to be a dying breed.
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@Mikey856 5 free days not enough?
Edit: How does 1 day outage in how many years = **** service?
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@nomither6 Yea, everyone should get everything free. You don't need PSN to play fortnite and I'm sure it's the same for other f2p games. ** Sick of this culture that seems to have popped up after covid that believes they should get everything for free. Like what else do u expect for free? Maybe a mobile or even your broadband paid for? *** No, they're businesses giving people a service, why shouldn't they get paid for it? Like why would Sony not want to get back the money they're paying to MS to host their services? Hasn't happened since 2011 and it was only down for a day.
** Edit:
Your playing a free game and getting free online. What compensation do u think u should be given for the nothing that you're spending?
*** Edit:
Furloughing people was the worst thing. Has given them a sense that they should get everything free and other people will pay for them.
Re: PSN Downtime Raises Fresh Questions About PS5's Future Functionality
How far in the future are they trying to make people worry about. PS3 still online. PS4 still online. It's not like the PS6 is going to come out and Sony will just shutdown everything on the PS5. It would be safe to say you'll be able to play PS4 and PS5 games on the PS6 and onwards.
Re: PSN Down Worldwide as PS5, PS4 Players Can't Log In or Play Online
Series X and Indiana Jones tonight it is then.
Re: Sony Could Be Plotting a PS5 Livestream Around Valentine's Day
Shadow drop Ghost of Yotei! 😂
Re: Halo PS5 Rumours Intensify in Aftermath of Forza Horizon 5 Reveal
My voting for all these will be I've already got it on Xbox so don't need to buy it again. Only people with just the PS5 will be buying these games. For me I'll not be buying any games that I can play through GPU.
Re: Poll: Are You Buying Forza Horizon 5 on PS5?
Have it on the series X, so no need to buy it again.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Confirmed for PS5, Out This Spring
@AdamNovice They'll all be over on PS soon, especially if Horizon does well. Only thing is if they wait to the next installment of each to release on PS or do additional work and release the older games before the next installment. Think Starfield will release on PS this year as well.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Confirmed for PS5, Out This Spring
@Darude84 I don't think he's comparing them directly. Like Mario Kart is also mentioned. Think they mean in terms of what each game offers. GT7 is the best sim racer and Horizon is the best arcade racer. They're both on different levels to other games that compare to them. Forza Motorsport was really bad when it launched, but is a lot better now. The main issue I have with it now is it's single player is live service! The single player career is not a proper career of races that are always available. It's just some races that are available for a month and then gone. It's handy though to use for the MS reward points for playing a game for 15 minutes.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Confirmed for PS5, Out This Spring
Great game, have really enjoyed all the Horizon games. Though 2 and 4 are my personal faves. Booted up the first one a couple of months ago, just for old times. The game looks great on the series X, so should look stunning on the Pro. MS have heard the complaints about Sony not releasing enough exclusives on PS5 so MS have decided to share their exclusives.
Re: Rumour: God of War Will Tackle Egyptian Mythology in Next Game
So he's not settled down then? Or maybe something happens that pulls him into the Egyptian mythology. Will be a day 1 purchase for me. Hope it's a big full game. Still hope they release the smaller game that follows Atreus after ragnarok as well.
Re: Ninja Gaiden 2 Black Remasters an Action Classic, Out Now on PS5
@LogicStrikesAgain Thanks, oh yes both will cost money and you don't really get anything for free nowadays. Like the MS reward points take time to collect everyday.
I get where ur coming from as well with people saying games are free when they're renting them. I guess they're viewed as free as its a game getting added to the service that they've already been paid for.
This year does look to be a spectacular year for GPU in terms of value. Which is probably the first time that could be said. Last year was good with Indy and COD.
Too many games and not enough time or storage room. 😂
Re: Ninja Gaiden 2 Black Remasters an Action Classic, Out Now on PS5
@LogicStrikesAgain It is if you don't pay for GPU. 🙂
Should look into MS reward points while they're not as good as they used to be, they will bring the price down. The closest I've gotten to paying full price for GP since it released was buying a few years worth of EA play and converting.
My GPU doesn't run out until August 2026 and then I'll just get another year with my points. Since they've brought down the amount you can stack to 13 months.
Also there's more than just 1 game to play on the service. Ive played many games that I wouldn't have tried but did because they were "free". Also saved money by being able to try games first before actually buying them on the PS5.
You should check out the games that are being added this year. If u want to play a game that's leaving u can buy it for a discount. Or wait a bit longer and buy it in a sale. Though I don't buy games on the Xbox, I use it just for GPU.
Just my thoughts on the whole "you're renting games" argument against GPU. When I was young we used to rent games from stores for 1 or 2 nights at a time.
Perhaps the only game I'll be buying this year is Ghost of Yotei. The sooner it comes out the better as I've nearly finished my 4th play through of Ghost of Tsushima.
Re: Horizon's MMO Appears to Have Been Cancelled
That is an awful situation to be in. Not great to be working to save not just ur job but also the company.
Sony must be doing a complete 180 on their live service initiative. Concord cut them deep.
As I said the other day hopefully some of those assets and stories can be used on whatever they make next.
Re: Lists of Sony’s Cancelled Live Service PS5 Games Paint a Worrying Picture
@YoureTooSlowBro Blame typing quickly on my phone. Meant to say by November. But anyway.. Took long enough to respond. Enjoy your gaming.
Re: Shuhei Yoshida on PSVR2: 'I'm Sorry'
I got it when it released. Really enjoyed it for the first 5 weeks, then it broke. So got my money back and haven't been tempted to get another.
Re: Lists of Sony’s Cancelled Live Service PS5 Games Paint a Worrying Picture
@YoureTooSlowBro I guess when you believe you are correct you can just go all in on being condescending.
So my opinion is different from urs, so obviously I've just been brainwashed. It's not possible that my opinion has been created from actually having had any experience playing live service games?
Yes there are loads of single player games that have failed. How many of these are from Sony?
Remember though, there's a lot more single player games released than live service games every year.
Astro Bot didn't sell? It had sold 1.5 million copies in November.
Re: Lists of Sony’s Cancelled Live Service PS5 Games Paint a Worrying Picture
@YoureTooSlowBro Would love to see what Sony could make or buy with the money it's made from their live service venture so far. People keep saying they just need 1 hit. How many live service hits has there been? Fortnite, rocket league and Apex? How many have failed? Regarding the single player games. They could make the big budget games but also could make a lot more smaller scale games like Astro Bot.
Re: Lists of Sony’s Cancelled Live Service PS5 Games Paint a Worrying Picture
Cancel Fairgame$ and Horizon and just leave bungie to work on marathon and hope it lasts longer than Concord. Then never look at live service ever again.
Re: Reaction: Sony's Live Service Push Has Been a Disaster of Utterly Insane Proportions
Wasted soo much time, money and effort for nothing. Said years ago they should have gone for ubisoft instead of bungie. At least with ubisoft they would have gotten a pile of single player IPs as well as the live service experience that ubi have. Hopefully there is something they can salvage from what they were working on. Like story ideas and game assets to then maybe they could use them to quickly fire out a few short single player game or 2. Would fill up some gaps until they get working on their next projects. Would be interesting to see how their live service game was going to work when set in the GOW universe. Hopefully all other live service projects are cancelled other than what bungie are working on.
Re: Rumour: Next State of Play Showcase Set for Next Month
Ghost of Yotei release date please! Need it ASAP!
Re: PGA Tour 2K25 Sets Up PS5 Birdie for 28th February
Also didn't know this was coming out. Enjoyed 2k23 more than EA PGA.
Re: Ghost of Yotei Stars in Sony's New, Big Budget Marketing Campaign
Need this game now!
Re: Sony's Immersive Tech Concept Puts You in a Room Made of Screens Where You Can Smell Your Enemies
People = VR is too expensive
Sony = Hold my beer.
Re: Housemarque Recruits PlatinumGames Dev of 11 Years as Lead Designer on Next PS5 Game
Couldn't get into returnal. Though I'm not a fan of rogue likes in general.
Re: This Is Why Call of Duty Is Not Gonna Stop Launching on PS5
Cold War is still the best COD there has been in years. Played a good bit of Blops 6 and just don't think it's as good.
Re: HBO's The Last of Us: Season 2 Debuts in April
@Uromastryx Ah that's good! Thanks, was hoping they wouldn't rush through it.
Re: HBO's The Last of Us: Season 2 Debuts in April
I thought they would have split the 2nd game into 2 seasons.
Re: Industry Analyst Argues Either Sony or Microsoft Will Need to Exit the Console Market
Wish someone would pay me to make random guesses. If anything MS are the most likely to pull out of the console market. As they're moving more into publishing and getting GP on everything. Saying it's been between Sony and MS makes no sense.
Re: Xbox Is Eager to Build the Best Games You Can Enjoy Everywhere
When GPU starts costing me money in a couple of years time and they're releasing all their games to PlayStation after a timed exclusive then I'll be ditching the Xbox.
Re: Test Drive Unlimited: Solar Crown Takes Us Back to Ibiza in Huge Season 2 Update
Seems to still be an utterly broken mess going by reddit. Not worth touching.
Re: Sony Highlights Biggest PS5 Games for 2025 in New Trailer
Ghost of Yotei is all I care about next year. No rush to get GTA 6, will probably be another game they'll milk for 3 generations.
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft Turmoil Continues as Shareholders Consider Buyout
@Foreverisdark94 Yea would be awful if Sony got ownership of assassins creed, splinter cell, far cry, the crew, and watchdogs etc.
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft Turmoil Continues as Shareholders Consider Buyout
Always said Sony should buy them. Good single player games and also have a number of live service games going.
Re: Your 2024 PlayStation Wrap-Up Will Be Available Starting Next Week
@DonkeyFantasy Can't beat it and long may it continue!
Re: Your 2024 PlayStation Wrap-Up Will Be Available Starting Next Week
@Bagwag82 I'm old, work full time and have no kids. Couple of hours a night and more over the weekends with a few beers and it soon adds up.
Re: Your 2024 PlayStation Wrap-Up Will Be Available Starting Next Week
@OldGamer999 Started doing the MS reward points again with the news that COD was going to be on GPU from day one. Mostly been playing Forza Motorsport. Its far better than it was when it first released. Thought GT7 is better. Though have played some random games as well to get the achievements for the monthly 1000 MS reward points.