@Pat_trick GTA 6 digital only but is still being sold by retailers. A quick check on Amazon shows they're selling it for less than it is on PSN. Maybe that's the future for the physical market. Empty box is still a box to put on a shelf.
Buying Laufey and get Fable through GPU. Got GPU until the end of next year and then my free run ends. βΉοΈ More looking forward to Laufey. So will be playing that first.
@PuppetMaster Yea, external HDD seems to be the way to go. Though I think the PS5 has a limit on the size you can attach. I had a 10TB one attached to the series X at 1 point. The one I have attached to the pro is just for PS4 games. So if more and more games get hard delisted then would def need a new external HDD to keep them on. As the console and 4TB SSD are both nearly full as it is. I still think Sony will sell an external disk drive for the PS6. Like they do with the PS5. Doesn't help for going forwards but at least u can still keep ur PS4 and PS5 physical games.
If Xbox were on their game they would be sticking a disk drive into the next Xbox and marketing towards all the ones that are saying they're dropping Sony and going to PC. However, I think they were also planning to drop disks as well.
Sony should have held back and waited for Xbox to announce first and that would have saved them from the backlash.
@PuppetMaster That sucks. Not something I've heard of being done before. Though how often is it going to happen where a publisher hasn't paid royalties for years? I didn't know anything about them but guess if people want them they're going to have to either buy physical or copy onto an external drive and make sure they don't delete.
@PuppetMaster That's not how delisting works. If u have bought the game digitally you can still download it after. I've done it on my series X multiple times for older Xbox titles.
What a strange argument / take on this. If people want it then companies should provide it. Really? I want a disk drive that can read PS1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 games. Doesn't mean that Sony has to provide it or allow a 3rd party company to provide it. We wanted a new GTA game 2 generations ago. Doesn't meant that Rockstar cared enough to provide it. They just wanted to milk as much as possible for the least amount of effort.
Can't wait for this, all these games are day 1 games.
If this game ends on a massive cliffhanger and the Kratos game is digital only that's really going to test the disk only player market.
@ATaco I really hope not, needs to be a proper entry. I'm nearly sure there was something said in the videos about it having been worked on or talked about internally about 10 years ago.
It's getting beyond a joke now. Hopefully the vocal minority will get bored and move onto something else soon enough.
What happens if Sony have a disk drive add-on for the PS6 like they currently have with the PS5? Or if Sony have a disk to digital migration plan in the works like Xbox? Will that make them happy? Even though the new games will be all digital.
While I would prefer not to lose the option of using disks, I have def gotten more digital games this generation than before. I will still be using the PlayStation as my main console going forward. That includes when I eventually have to move to PS6. Though hopefully can hold off until the PS6 Pro releases.
@get2sammyb You need to start releasing articles on disks to keep everyone happy. π
Can't wait for this. Replayed 2018 and Ragnarok after this was announced. Def worth staying off social media in general. It seems that everything is negative as that's the only way to get people to engage. Youtube is like that as well, seems everything needs to be over the top negative to try and get views on anything. Faux outrage and constant negativity is the way online has gone.
@Leinad7 Paywalls! Paywalls everywhere! Why is my internet access behind a paywall? Why is my TV behind a paywall? Why is my mobile phone connection behind a paywall? Why is my access to petrol paywalled? Why do paying customers get perks that aren't available to non-paying customers! It's all madness!
@nessisonett I was joking of course. It's been great getting PS4 & PS5 versions bundled together this gen. It's def going to happen for a good while when the PS6 comes out too. There's a lot of good Sony games in the pipeline, so not all bleakness yet. π
Don't understand the thoughts on switching to PC at all. We're going to an all digital platform because Sony is becoming an all digital platform. "But PC has multiple stores" but none of them will have Laufey, or the original trilogy remake or the next Ghost game. On Reddit the r/PS6 has become full of PC gamers on a recruitment drive. It's crazy.
@8th_Observer Yea, like there was something about that kiln game. They would take a week off their main game for everyone to just come up with random ideas and then pick an idea and work on it for 2 weeks and then go back to doing the main project. That's just taking the hand. π
Played a decent bit of Horizon 6 but then there's a game destroying bug. So have decided to leave it for a while. Now just back to turning the series X on to get the 15 minute game time for the reward points.
@nomither6 I can see why they're so popular but I have a hard enough time trying to get through my backlog to get playing it. I've the Zelda games and want to get playing them sometime and just focus on them.
@nomither6 No worries at all. π Honestly people should play on and buy whatever they want. I've always had consoles but I got big into PC gaming when PUBG first released. Played it at a friend's house who is a PC gamer and went out and got a gaming PC. Then built my own one the following year. Then just went off it and kept playing the consoles. Still have it but haven't turned it on in years. Got a Nintendo switch 2 last year but just couldn't get into it and I don't game when travelling so again it's just been sitting for months not turned on.
@SolaceCreed That's shockingly poor management. No wonder it went the way it did. Feel even worse about it knowing that now. Was great craic the times I worked there over uni (summer and holidays).
@subechin Nintendo are after a different market of customers that Sony and MS are after. So they don't get counted. π I can see Nintendo continuing with their cartridges. Like they just allow u to download the game. So are just resellable keys.
Has anyone gone into a Game store recently? It's tragic. Though it's not just lately. If anything highlights how much people have moved to digital its that. I remember going into a store to get a one X for someone as they had a good deal on. Went in and got told that it was only available online and they didn't even have any of those one X's in stock in the store.
Would be interesting to see if the following games were all PS6 only how ppls morals would change.
Spider-Man 3 Ghost of Wherever God of War remastered trilogy Next God of War mainline game
Actually if the PS6 does hit it's numbers Sony might decide to do just that.
I'm happy to stick with my Pro for the time being. If it somehow blows the Pro out of the water in performance then I'll go day 1. If (as I suspect) it doesn't then I'll pick one up for the launch of the next Ghost game. I can see Sony releasing an external disk drive for it.
@lcrpajarero I'm not sure what point you're trying to make regarding Sony having a captive audience like Nintendo. Are Nintendo stopping their game cards? Or do u mean that you have to buy PlayStation games to play on a PlayStation... PC has soo many storefronts and great competition that 75%+ of all games are still bought through steam.
@mvhess Yea it's all a bit crazy ppl saying they're going to get rid of their PS5 and buy a PC. I haven't turned on my PC in about 5 years π Tried it and it just wasn't for me.
@Oppyz666 Ah Steam. Are they not the ones releasing a console that's not as powerful as the PS5 for 1k? I have a gaming PC and a steam account. I just don't use it because I prefer gaming on consoles.
@DennisReynolds 100% They'll get away with it because they have teased the possibility of doing disk to digital transfers. Sony hasn't and probably could have saved themselves a lot of backlash if they had of done the same.
@NerdyPaul I think the PS6 will have a disk drive attachment. However, I don't think it'll be a hybrid like the next Xbox. Sony won't allow access to other storefronts. They're keeping everything locked down. I'll probably look to upgrade when the next Ghost game comes out.
@Friendly I'm glad u think I don't see the problem and u are the keeper of all knowledge about the gaming industry. However the industry has been going this way for years. Xbox tried to kill the second hand market years ago. It wasn't in Sony's plans at the time so they completely destroyed them on it. Now it seems both are aligned with going fully digital.
@TheSingularity People seem to be in a constant state of rage these days. Complaining about the possible price of the PS6 and then say they'll get a gaming PC. Because that'll be cheaper.π I'd say a lot of people actually have a decent digital library already. Like PS+ monthly games have been digital for how long?
@KidRyan I'll be keeping the Pro as long as possible. If it needs replaced then I'll look at the PS6. Because hopefully by that time we'll see what games are like on it and if it has a external disk drive.
@NerdyPaul The PC master race will scoff at ppl that don't have the latest and greatest and that's even more expensive. I'm going to be keeping the Pro and series X as long as possible. I think a lot of people will now do this as well. Especially when MS comes out and confirm that Helix doesn't have a disk drive.
@Friendly I don't need to know that u don't care that I don't care. π If u want the comment sections flooded with people repeating the same thing over and over again then good for u. Honestly the way some people are posting all over the place you would think they see themselves as some kind of heros. Especially on Reddit, it's just constant.
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Re: Reminder: The PS5 Release Schedule Is About to Become the Busiest It's Ever Been
On GPU I'm currently playing through Halo, have beast of reincarnation downloaded and will start after and then Resonance.
For the Pro I'm buying Wolverine and in 2 minds about COD.
Re: 8 Ways Sony Must Improve the PS Store for Our All-Digital Future
Never in a million years will they allow the trade of digital games.
Re: Amidst Sony's Disc Debacle, Capcom Sales Data Is a Brutal Reality Check for Fans of Physical Media
@Pat_trick GTA 6 digital only but is still being sold by retailers. A quick check on Amazon shows they're selling it for less than it is on PSN. Maybe that's the future for the physical market. Empty box is still a box to put on a shelf.
Re: Fable PS5 Has Run 'Uncomfortably Beyond Budget', Sources Claim
Buying Laufey and get Fable through GPU. Got GPU until the end of next year and then my free run ends. βΉοΈ More looking forward to Laufey. So will be playing that first.
Re: 'If People Want It, Companies Should Provide It': Rockstar Co-Founder Dan Houser Joins PS5 Disc Debate
@PuppetMaster Yea, external HDD seems to be the way to go. Though I think the PS5 has a limit on the size you can attach. I had a 10TB one attached to the series X at 1 point. The one I have attached to the pro is just for PS4 games. So if more and more games get hard delisted then would def need a new external HDD to keep them on. As the console and 4TB SSD are both nearly full as it is. I still think Sony will sell an external disk drive for the PS6. Like they do with the PS5. Doesn't help for going forwards but at least u can still keep ur PS4 and PS5 physical games.
If Xbox were on their game they would be sticking a disk drive into the next Xbox and marketing towards all the ones that are saying they're dropping Sony and going to PC. However, I think they were also planning to drop disks as well.
Sony should have held back and waited for Xbox to announce first and that would have saved them from the backlash.
Re: 'If People Want It, Companies Should Provide It': Rockstar Co-Founder Dan Houser Joins PS5 Disc Debate
@PuppetMaster That sucks. Not something I've heard of being done before. Though how often is it going to happen where a publisher hasn't paid royalties for years? I didn't know anything about them but guess if people want them they're going to have to either buy physical or copy onto an external drive and make sure they don't delete.
Re: 'If People Want It, Companies Should Provide It': Rockstar Co-Founder Dan Houser Joins PS5 Disc Debate
@PuppetMaster That's not how delisting works. If u have bought the game digitally you can still download it after. I've done it on my series X multiple times for older Xbox titles.
Re: 'If People Want It, Companies Should Provide It': Rockstar Co-Founder Dan Houser Joins PS5 Disc Debate
What a strange argument / take on this. If people want it then companies should provide it. Really? I want a disk drive that can read PS1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 games. Doesn't mean that Sony has to provide it or allow a 3rd party company to provide it. We wanted a new GTA game 2 generations ago. Doesn't meant that Rockstar cared enough to provide it. They just wanted to milk as much as possible for the least amount of effort.
Re: 'It's Setting Up for Something So Amazing': Sony Confirms New God of War Starring Kratos
Can't wait for this, all these games are day 1 games.
If this game ends on a massive cliffhanger and the Kratos game is digital only that's really going to test the disk only player market.
@ATaco I really hope not, needs to be a proper entry. I'm nearly sure there was something said in the videos about it having been worked on or talked about internally about 10 years ago.
Re: 'It's Setting Up for Something So Amazing': Sony Confirms New God of War Starring Kratos
It's like that cleaning product advert:
@Balaam_ and the happiness is gone.
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Re: PSN Down for 6+ Hours, PS Store Still Being Repaired
@Ashina What a joke of a post.
Re: Prime Yourself for Marvel's Wolverine on PS5 with This Prequel Comic
No book, no buy!
Re: Irate PlayStation Fans Want You to Buy Games Anywhere But PS5
It's getting beyond a joke now. Hopefully the vocal minority will get bored and move onto something else soon enough.
What happens if Sony have a disk drive add-on for the PS6 like they currently have with the PS5? Or if Sony have a disk to digital migration plan in the works like Xbox? Will that make them happy? Even though the new games will be all digital.
While I would prefer not to lose the option of using disks, I have def gotten more digital games this generation than before. I will still be using the PlayStation as my main console going forward. That includes when I eventually have to move to PS6. Though hopefully can hold off until the PS6 Pro releases.
@get2sammyb You need to start releasing articles on disks to keep everyone happy. π
Re: 60+ PS5, PS4 Games to Buy in PS Store's Massive Summer Sale
@Leinad7 I don't think u know how businesses work. π
Re: God of War Laufey's Deborah Ann Woll Feels 'Totally Unbothered' by Online Haters
Can't wait for this. Replayed 2018 and Ragnarok after this was announced. Def worth staying off social media in general. It seems that everything is negative as that's the only way to get people to engage. Youtube is like that as well, seems everything needs to be over the top negative to try and get views on anything. Faux outrage and constant negativity is the way online has gone.
Re: 60+ PS5, PS4 Games to Buy in PS Store's Massive Summer Sale
@Leinad7 Paywalls! Paywalls everywhere! Why is my internet access behind a paywall? Why is my TV behind a paywall? Why is my mobile phone connection behind a paywall? Why is my access to petrol paywalled? Why do paying customers get perks that aren't available to non-paying customers! It's all madness!
Re: Prepare for GTA 6 by Robbing an Art Gallery in GTA Online on PS5 Next Week
@nessisonett I was joking of course. It's been great getting PS4 & PS5 versions bundled together this gen. It's def going to happen for a good while when the PS6 comes out too. There's a lot of good Sony games in the pipeline, so not all bleakness yet. π
Re: Prepare for GTA 6 by Robbing an Art Gallery in GTA Online on PS5 Next Week
Wait people still have GTA 6 pre-ordered? That goes against 45%!
Re: 'PS5 Has Put a Dampener on Gaming': 45% of Enthusiasts 'Seriously Considering' Leaving Sony for PC
Don't understand the thoughts on switching to PC at all. We're going to an all digital platform because Sony is becoming an all digital platform. "But PC has multiple stores" but none of them will have Laufey, or the original trilogy remake or the next Ghost game. On Reddit the r/PS6 has become full of PC gamers on a recruitment drive. It's crazy.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 1 and 2 Out Now on PS5, PS Plus Members Get 50% Discount
Can't find them on the UK store. Using the app or on the console.
Re: Poll: Are You Considering Leaving PlayStation for PC?
@MrMel The future is but the present still has disks ...
Re: Poll: Are You Considering Leaving PlayStation for PC?
Not a chance I'll go back to PC. I'll get the PS6 or PS6 Pro eventually. Once the PS5 Pro is done.
Re: July 2026 PS Plus Essential Games Available to Download Now
@ecurb7 The worst part is sending all those disks back when you cancel ur subscription.
Re: Newly Independent Devs Thank Xbox and Keep IP Rights to Their Games
@8th_Observer Yea, like there was something about that kiln game. They would take a week off their main game for everyone to just come up with random ideas and then pick an idea and work on it for 2 weeks and then go back to doing the main project. That's just taking the hand. π
Re: Newly Independent Devs Thank Xbox and Keep IP Rights to Their Games
Is it just me or does that seem like awful output for 2 studios working 7 years?
Re: Reaction: Sony Needs to Start Speaking to Us Again
They've been awful communicating for years even during the PS4 as well. Though they didn't do as much controversial stuff back then.
Re: Despite Eliminating 20% of Its Workforce, Xbox Wants a Billion Players Per Day
Played a decent bit of Horizon 6 but then there's a game destroying bug. So have decided to leave it for a while. Now just back to turning the series X on to get the 15 minute game time for the reward points.
Re: 50+ PS5, PS4 Games to Buy in PS Store's July Savings Sale (North America/Europe)
The duality of man (Push Square)
Re: 50+ PS5, PS4 Games to Buy in PS Store's July Savings Sale (North America/Europe)
Disk only! Disk only! Don't look at this article. π
Re: PS6 Release Now Expected End of 2028, According to Analyst
@nomither6 I can see why they're so popular but I have a hard enough time trying to get through my backlog to get playing it. I've the Zelda games and want to get playing them sometime and just focus on them.
Re: PS6 Release Now Expected End of 2028, According to Analyst
@nomither6 No worries at all. π Honestly people should play on and buy whatever they want. I've always had consoles but I got big into PC gaming when PUBG first released. Played it at a friend's house who is a PC gamer and went out and got a gaming PC. Then built my own one the following year. Then just went off it and kept playing the consoles. Still have it but haven't turned it on in years. Got a Nintendo switch 2 last year but just couldn't get into it and I don't game when travelling so again it's just been sitting for months not turned on.
Re: PS6 Release Now Expected End of 2028, According to Analyst
@nomither6 It was a joke replying to another poster.
Re: 'It's a Fairly Dramatic Decision': Shawn Layden Reacts to PlayStation's All-Digital Plan
@SolaceCreed That's shockingly poor management. No wonder it went the way it did. Feel even worse about it knowing that now. Was great craic the times I worked there over uni (summer and holidays).
Re: 'It's a Fairly Dramatic Decision': Shawn Layden Reacts to PlayStation's All-Digital Plan
@NerdyPaul That's true, my concept of time has completely gone since COVID. π Didn't help them that CEX killed off their 2nd hand market.
Re: 'It's a Fairly Dramatic Decision': Shawn Layden Reacts to PlayStation's All-Digital Plan
@subechin Nintendo are after a different market of customers that Sony and MS are after. So they don't get counted. π I can see Nintendo continuing with their cartridges. Like they just allow u to download the game. So are just resellable keys.
Re: 'It's a Fairly Dramatic Decision': Shawn Layden Reacts to PlayStation's All-Digital Plan
Has anyone gone into a Game store recently? It's tragic. Though it's not just lately. If anything highlights how much people have moved to digital its that. I remember going into a store to get a one X for someone as they had a good deal on. Went in and got told that it was only available online and they didn't even have any of those one X's in stock in the store.
Would be interesting to see if the following games were all PS6 only how ppls morals would change.
Spider-Man 3
Ghost of Wherever
God of War remastered trilogy
Next God of War mainline game
Actually if the PS6 does hit it's numbers Sony might decide to do just that.
Re: Poll: $1,000 and No Disc Drive - Is PS6 Dead on Arrival?
I'm happy to stick with my Pro for the time being. If it somehow blows the Pro out of the water in performance then I'll go day 1. If (as I suspect) it doesn't then I'll pick one up for the launch of the next Ghost game. I can see Sony releasing an external disk drive for it.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Burned Through the Last Remaining Goodwill of Its Fans
@lcrpajarero I'm not sure what point you're trying to make regarding Sony having a captive audience like Nintendo. Are Nintendo stopping their game cards? Or do u mean that you have to buy PlayStation games to play on a PlayStation... PC has soo many storefronts and great competition that 75%+ of all games are still bought through steam.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Burned Through the Last Remaining Goodwill of Its Fans
@mvhess Yea it's all a bit crazy ppl saying they're going to get rid of their PS5 and buy a PC. I haven't turned on my PC in about 5 years π Tried it and it just wasn't for me.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Burned Through the Last Remaining Goodwill of Its Fans
@Oppyz666 Ah Steam. Are they not the ones releasing a console that's not as powerful as the PS5 for 1k? I have a gaming PC and a steam account. I just don't use it because I prefer gaming on consoles.
Re: PS6 May Not Be the Only Fully Digital Console Next-Gen
@DennisReynolds That's a good point GTA VI is all digital. Could have instantly responded back to the criticism with "look at what you all bought"
Re: PS6 May Not Be the Only Fully Digital Console Next-Gen
@DennisReynolds 100% They'll get away with it because they have teased the possibility of doing disk to digital transfers. Sony hasn't and probably could have saved themselves a lot of backlash if they had of done the same.
Re: PS6 Release Now Expected End of 2028, According to Analyst
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Re: PlayStation's Plan to Kill Physical Games Has Spawned Not One But Many Online Petitions
@Friendly I wasn't even going to bother clicking into this article. Love that 1 throw away comment I made has got u this worked up.
Re: PS6 Release Now Expected End of 2028, According to Analyst
@NerdyPaul I think the PS6 will have a disk drive attachment. However, I don't think it'll be a hybrid like the next Xbox. Sony won't allow access to other storefronts. They're keeping everything locked down. I'll probably look to upgrade when the next Ghost game comes out.
Re: PS6 Release Now Expected End of 2028, According to Analyst
@Friendly I'm glad u think I don't see the problem and u are the keeper of all knowledge about the gaming industry. However the industry has been going this way for years. Xbox tried to kill the second hand market years ago. It wasn't in Sony's plans at the time so they completely destroyed them on it. Now it seems both are aligned with going fully digital.
Re: PS6 Release Now Expected End of 2028, According to Analyst
@TheSingularity People seem to be in a constant state of rage these days. Complaining about the possible price of the PS6 and then say they'll get a gaming PC. Because that'll be cheaper.π I'd say a lot of people actually have a decent digital library already. Like PS+ monthly games have been digital for how long?
Re: PS6 Release Now Expected End of 2028, According to Analyst
@KidRyan I'll be keeping the Pro as long as possible. If it needs replaced then I'll look at the PS6. Because hopefully by that time we'll see what games are like on it and if it has a external disk drive.
Re: PS6 Release Now Expected End of 2028, According to Analyst
@NerdyPaul The PC master race will scoff at ppl that don't have the latest and greatest and that's even more expensive. I'm going to be keeping the Pro and series X as long as possible. I think a lot of people will now do this as well. Especially when MS comes out and confirm that Helix doesn't have a disk drive.
Re: PS6 Release Now Expected End of 2028, According to Analyst
@Friendly I don't need to know that u don't care that I don't care. π If u want the comment sections flooded with people repeating the same thing over and over again then good for u. Honestly the way some people are posting all over the place you would think they see themselves as some kind of heros. Especially on Reddit, it's just constant.