@Haruki_NLI arguably in the early days of a generation this is ridiculously important. Yes third party games sell best on the PS4 but being the market leader makes that easy. Early in the generation it very well could be these moves that influence someone to pick their machine over the competitors.
@Lycanthrope it only does that when you’re using a stance that’s ineffective against the enemy you’re fighting if I’m remembering right (i honestly can’t remember the last time it told me to switch stances). Switching stances to me got to be second nature after a while.
@Jacko11 I imagine any looseness issue you would normally encounter should be eliminated by this as the mechanism is now completely different. It would’ve been entirely spring based in the past (I’m guessing here so if you know better please correct me) and I’d expect some metal fatigue to be a normal wear and tear issue with springs.
I’ve been logging in once a month to get my million and a free spin / money spending at the casino 🤣
The money is being spent as quickly as I get it though with the purchase of a hangar at the military base and a penthouse above the casino for higher stakes gambling 🤣. I plan on starting to save it soon. Hopefully.
So add on content made more for Sony (Nearly 2X) than all of Xbox last quarter. Wow.
Edited for clarity.
Edit 2: this isn’t accurate. 1.3bn was their increase not total revenue. Their total was 3.2bn which means Sony made 1bn less than all of Xbox in last quarter off add ons alone which is still impressive.
Took the 1.3bn as accurate when it wasn’t, my bad.
@Medic_Alert you’re the one trying to spin the facts.
Play anywhere- you mean like cross buy between PS4 and vita games while the vita was supported?
Sony may not be the most generous of companies with their return policies, that’s true. You can however get refunds on games you’ve not played or were delayed etc.
Sony wasn’t the last one with cross play- opposite in fact. Final fantasy XI on PS2, Final fantasy XIV on PS4. The Xbox fans have a short memory to not remember MS blocking cross play while Sony allowed it.
As far as psnow you may think they treated it as an afterthought, and that’s a perfectly fine opinion to have. Don’t try to act like your opinion is fact though. Truth is they have 800+ titles on the service and have millions of subscribers. I’d suggest waiting to see if there is anything new announced with regards to psnow. You may be surprised.
Edit: also already covered backwards compatibility. Refer to my previous reply.
@Medic_Alert what’s he done? All he did was pivot from one form of DRM and people not owning their games model to a model where people pay you monthly for that model and call you consumer friendly for it. Open your eyes people!
@Richnj I’m not misunderstanding at all. In business if you don’t see good growth on a money losing venture it doesn’t take long before it gets cut. Time will tell, and MS has its work cut out for them to turn it profitable.
They’ve got to exponentially grow their user base while adding new games to the service to keep their existing subscribers. All of which is very expensive.
@Medic_Alert the thing is though they said this once. Could’ve been for a certain time and not apply to the greater outlook at all. Cherry picking stats without giving all the information is what Microsoft does.
@Richnj so “high revenue” that it’s not making them money. They want you to think it’s high revenue so you don’t see that it sits on the edge, not enough increase in subscribers and it goes the way of Mixer.
@Richnj I firmly believe most people don’t use BC often if at all. Can still be a big sway for your library to carry over though.
You can try to talk yourself into believing MS will actually “win” a generation if you like, but the status quo isn’t changing anytime soon. Wait and see.
@Hengist you’re failing to account for the many millions of ps+ subscribers who now have 200ish games in their libraries of games they keep access to staying with PlayStation 5 and PS+. This is going to be a big sway towards ps5.
@Hengist no, my point was that free online versus paid online did not make Sony win the generation, plus Sony had much better exclusives and many people bought a ps3 because it was cheaper than all the standalone blu-ray players as well.
Yes Sony ended up winning the generation over all, but the free online if it was a big deal would’ve surely meant a landslide victory. 🙄
@Masterrugg 90 million active live users is NOT giving the paid subscriber numbers. They just want you to think it is. The paid numbers are much lower I’m sure. Psn active users is stated at over 110 million. You were saying?
The people acting like this would be this huge win for Microsoft should remember that there was already a generation of free online versus paid online. It wasn’t a big deciding factor if you ask me, yes ps3 won out but it had the free online AND Sony’s exclusives. If true Microsoft may well have the free online but most certainly not the exclusives.
Honestly this really isn’t that surprising. Sony’s been absolutely killing it in the last days of PS4. The momentum going into PS5 is ridiculous and completely dwarfs where they were this same time last gen. It’ll be really interesting to see how this plays out early ps5 days.
The battery life of the DualShock 4 has always been absolutely fine. I get like 8 hours (probably more too I just know at least 8 hours) of playtime easy out of one charge. What’s wrong with that honestly? If you need to play more than 8 hours on a charge then just get a second one for back up 😂
@Kefka2589 completely different scenario. They had to change every game to make them compatible. Something that doesn’t need to be done between current gen and next gen.
@Medic_Alert this is not like Microsoft’s 360 backwards compatibility - they’re just going to work. Right away. Your expectations that they’re not going to is just plain folly.
As far as your other comment, we’ll revisit this after the system’s released and you’re proven wrong.
@Ridwaano PlayStation + is already fine honestly, it’s better than gold lately that’s for sure. As far as them maybe removing the need for gold, they might but the new requirement for online play would be gamepass no doubt. They’re not going to make online free when they are the ones who came out with it in the first place and it would be a major loss to their balance sheet.
@Medic_Alert how are you still repeating this stuff?!
We’re expecting backward compatible titles will run at a boosted frequency on PS5 so that they can benefit from higher or more stable frame rates and potentially higher resolutions.
The only titles that would need to be updated by the developers are ones that don’t work which should be few and far between:
We believe that the overwhelming majority of the 4,000+ PS4 titles will be playable on PS5.
This information has been known about for MONTHS now. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@__jamiie yeah, psvr was a wow moment for sure for me too. I’m really looking forward to the experiences that will be possible in vr on the ps5 too though and that a major win for Sony in my opinion. VR is amazing.
@__jamiie I’ve not been blown away. I was impressed with the speed of the transitions in ratchet and clank and I’m definitely looking forward to Demons Souls and Horizon 2 of the top of my head.
Edit: and the Series x does have some good specs too for sure.
@__jamiie buddy, why the aggression? We should all be happy that developers are getting the bottlenecks removed. This means they can do things that they just couldn’t before. Artists free to make what they envision is a good thing for all.
When the people who make the games are happy that can only mean good things for the gamers who play their games. And the developers are happy indeed with Sony both this current gen and in the lead-up to next gen.
@__jamiie for the ps5 it’s the entire I/O. Don’t take my word for it; I’ve linked proof to you earlier. It’s all about Sony removing the bottlenecks that were limiting game design essentially.
@__jamiie the quality of games Sony has to offer, not just at launch. It’s an undeniable fact at this point; Sony’s got the better games (granted it’s mostly subjective, but critically it’s a fact).
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Re: Reaction: State of Play Continues to Find Its Way
@Bejito81 glass half empty type eh... you could choose to look at it as only 28% were unhappy with it.
Re: PS5 Moneyhat Speculation Rumbles On
@Haruki_NLI arguably in the early days of a generation this is ridiculously important. Yes third party games sell best on the PS4 but being the market leader makes that easy. Early in the generation it very well could be these moves that influence someone to pick their machine over the competitors.
Re: PS5 Moneyhat Speculation Rumbles On
As someone who is going to be getting a PS5 this is good news! Bring me the games 😁
Re: Play the Entire Hitman Trilogy on PSVR From January 2021
This is absolutely wonderful news if you ask me! Can’t wait to be agent 47!
Re: Ghost of Tsushima Patch 1.06 Buffs Traveller's Attire, Fixes Some Bugs
@Lycanthrope it only does that when you’re using a stance that’s ineffective against the enemy you’re fighting if I’m remembering right (i honestly can’t remember the last time it told me to switch stances). Switching stances to me got to be second nature after a while.
Re: Feature: 8 Ways PS5's Adaptive Triggers Could Improve Immersion
@Jacko11 I imagine any looseness issue you would normally encounter should be eliminated by this as the mechanism is now completely different. It would’ve been entirely spring based in the past (I’m guessing here so if you know better please correct me) and I’d expect some metal fatigue to be a normal wear and tear issue with springs.
Re: Feature: 8 Ways PS5's Adaptive Triggers Could Improve Immersion
@Mostik only adaptive buttons are L2 and R2.
Re: Feature: 8 Ways PS5's Adaptive Triggers Could Improve Immersion
Great examples of how it could be used. Looking forward to what the devs come up with.
Re: Marvel's Avengers Details Even More Reasons to Play on PS5, PS4
I predict much grumbling in the comments from the usual few about this.
Re: GTA Online Gets Exclusive Content on Next-Gen Consoles, GTA 5 Will Be 'More Responsive'
I’ve been logging in once a month to get my million and a free spin / money spending at the casino 🤣
The money is being spent as quickly as I get it though with the purchase of a hangar at the military base and a penthouse above the casino for higher stakes gambling 🤣. I plan on starting to save it soon. Hopefully.
Re: GTA Online Gets Exclusive Content on Next-Gen Consoles, GTA 5 Will Be 'More Responsive'
@AdamNovice this is my hope as well. This would instantly be my most played psvr game.
Re: PlayStation Makes More Money from DLC, Microtransactions Than Anything Else
@ShogunRok that is an excellent point about the cash cow that is gta online.
Re: PlayStation Makes More Money from DLC, Microtransactions Than Anything Else
So add on content made more for Sony (Nearly 2X) than all of Xbox last quarter. Wow.
Edited for clarity.
Edit 2: this isn’t accurate. 1.3bn was their increase not total revenue. Their total was 3.2bn which means Sony made 1bn less than all of Xbox in last quarter off add ons alone which is still impressive.
Took the 1.3bn as accurate when it wasn’t, my bad.
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Medic_Alert you’re the one trying to spin the facts.
Play anywhere- you mean like cross buy between PS4 and vita games while the vita was supported?
Sony may not be the most generous of companies with their return policies, that’s true. You can however get refunds on games you’ve not played or were delayed etc.
Sony wasn’t the last one with cross play- opposite in fact. Final fantasy XI on PS2, Final fantasy XIV on PS4. The Xbox fans have a short memory to not remember MS blocking cross play while Sony allowed it.
As far as psnow you may think they treated it as an afterthought, and that’s a perfectly fine opinion to have. Don’t try to act like your opinion is fact though. Truth is they have 800+ titles on the service and have millions of subscribers. I’d suggest waiting to see if there is anything new announced with regards to psnow. You may be surprised.
Edit: also already covered backwards compatibility. Refer to my previous reply.
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Medic_Alert
Digital refunds - copied from steam
Championed cross play- you have them confused with SONY here who was trying to make cross play a thing as far back as PS2 days
Adaptive controller- you mean like pc has had options for for a very long time?
Free backwards compatible games - you mean like Sony had on ps2 and early models of PS3?
Gamepass on both Xbox and PC- you mean like SONY has had with PSNOW much longer than gamepass was even a thing?
Day and date exclusives with gamepass- I’ll give you this one; only MS is foolish enough to devalue their major exclusives.
Notice a trend?
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Medic_Alert what’s he done? All he did was pivot from one form of DRM and people not owning their games model to a model where people pay you monthly for that model and call you consumer friendly for it. Open your eyes people!
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Medic_Alert Time will tell. I want there to be competition as it pushes innovation. I just don’t think MS understands gamers. They never have.
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Richnj I’m not misunderstanding at all. In business if you don’t see good growth on a money losing venture it doesn’t take long before it gets cut. Time will tell, and MS has its work cut out for them to turn it profitable.
They’ve got to exponentially grow their user base while adding new games to the service to keep their existing subscribers. All of which is very expensive.
I wouldn’t bet on it.
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Medic_Alert looking at that number puts things into perspective though, PlayStation just announced like 5.3 Billion in the same quarter didn’t they?
Edit: yeah, 5.63 billion. That’s a huge difference.
TLDR; PlayStation made 4.33 times as much as Xbox last quarter.
Edit: on further review I think 1.3bn was the increase not their full earnings.
Re: Big PS Now Update Brings Hitman 2, Greedfall, Dead Cells, More
But wait! THERE’S MORE! 🤣
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Medic_Alert the thing is though they said this once. Could’ve been for a certain time and not apply to the greater outlook at all. Cherry picking stats without giving all the information is what Microsoft does.
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Medic_Alert not buying it at all. Easy to give numbers without any proof at all.
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Richnj so “high revenue” that it’s not making them money. They want you to think it’s high revenue so you don’t see that it sits on the edge, not enough increase in subscribers and it goes the way of Mixer.
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Masterrugg https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/02/01/playstation-network-revenue-hit-record-high-in-2018-topped-nintendo-and-xbox-totals
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/02/psn_earned_usd12_48_billion_for_sony_in_2019
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/02/psn_alone_generated_more_revenue_than_the_entirety_of_nintendo_in_2018
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Masterrugg respectfully, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Psn and services makes more money for Sony than ALL of XBOX DOES FOR MICROSOFT. Without even counting Sony’s hardware sales. 🤣🤣
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Richnj I firmly believe most people don’t use BC often if at all. Can still be a big sway for your library to carry over though.
You can try to talk yourself into believing MS will actually “win” a generation if you like, but the status quo isn’t changing anytime soon. Wait and see.
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Hengist you’re failing to account for the many millions of ps+ subscribers who now have 200ish games in their libraries of games they keep access to staying with PlayStation 5 and PS+. This is going to be a big sway towards ps5.
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Hengist the last point about amazon is just plain false in my experience. The deals with ps+ are quite commonly crazy good deals below anywhere else.
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Hengist no, my point was that free online versus paid online did not make Sony win the generation, plus Sony had much better exclusives and many people bought a ps3 because it was cheaper than all the standalone blu-ray players as well.
Yes Sony ended up winning the generation over all, but the free online if it was a big deal would’ve surely meant a landslide victory. 🙄
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@DeepSpace5D exactly.
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Hengist completely avoiding the main point. 🤦♂️
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
@Masterrugg 90 million active live users is NOT giving the paid subscriber numbers. They just want you to think it is. The paid numbers are much lower I’m sure. Psn active users is stated at over 110 million. You were saying?
Re: As the PS Plus Debate Rages, Sony Registers Record Subscribers
The people acting like this would be this huge win for Microsoft should remember that there was already a generation of free online versus paid online. It wasn’t a big deciding factor if you ask me, yes ps3 won out but it had the free online AND Sony’s exclusives. If true Microsoft may well have the free online but most certainly not the exclusives.
Re: PlayStation Records Best Ever Q1 Earnings as PS4 Game Sales Reach New Heights
Honestly this really isn’t that surprising. Sony’s been absolutely killing it in the last days of PS4. The momentum going into PS5 is ridiculous and completely dwarfs where they were this same time last gen. It’ll be really interesting to see how this plays out early ps5 days.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Controller's Battery Life 3 to 4 Hours Longer than DualShock 4
@Orpheus79V if you only get 3-4 hours out of a charge you’ve got a messed up controller
Re: Rumour: PS5 Controller's Battery Life 3 to 4 Hours Longer than DualShock 4
The battery life of the DualShock 4 has always been absolutely fine. I get like 8 hours (probably more too I just know at least 8 hours) of playtime easy out of one charge. What’s wrong with that honestly? If you need to play more than 8 hours on a charge then just get a second one for back up 😂
Re: Poll: What PS5 Information Do You Want Most?
@Kefka2589 completely different scenario. They had to change every game to make them compatible. Something that doesn’t need to be done between current gen and next gen.
Re: Poll: What PS5 Information Do You Want Most?
@Medic_Alert sure thing bud. As I said we’ll revisit this when the system is released and you’re proven wrong.
Edit: as to the why are they testing question; to check for any issues obviously as they already said. Code can be funny like that.
Re: Poll: What PS5 Information Do You Want Most?
@Medic_Alert this is not like Microsoft’s 360 backwards compatibility - they’re just going to work. Right away. Your expectations that they’re not going to is just plain folly.
As far as your other comment, we’ll revisit this after the system’s released and you’re proven wrong.
Re: Poll: What PS5 Information Do You Want Most?
@Ridwaano PlayStation + is already fine honestly, it’s better than gold lately that’s for sure. As far as them maybe removing the need for gold, they might but the new requirement for online play would be gamepass no doubt. They’re not going to make online free when they are the ones who came out with it in the first place and it would be a major loss to their balance sheet.
Re: Poll: What PS5 Information Do You Want Most?
@Medic_Alert how are you still repeating this stuff?!
The only titles that would need to be updated by the developers are ones that don’t work which should be few and far between:
This information has been known about for MONTHS now. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Source: https://blog.playstation.com/2020/03/18/unveiling-new-details-of-playstation-5-hardware-technical-specs/
Re: PS5 DualSense Create Button: What Does It Do?
I like the sound of scene tagging for sure.
Re: PS5 Completely Outpacing Xbox Series X in Terms of Popularity, Says New Research
@__jamiie yeah, psvr was a wow moment for sure for me too. I’m really looking forward to the experiences that will be possible in vr on the ps5 too though and that a major win for Sony in my opinion. VR is amazing.
Re: PS5 Completely Outpacing Xbox Series X in Terms of Popularity, Says New Research
@__jamiie I’ve not been blown away. I was impressed with the speed of the transitions in ratchet and clank and I’m definitely looking forward to Demons Souls and Horizon 2 of the top of my head.
Edit: and the Series x does have some good specs too for sure.
Re: PS5 Completely Outpacing Xbox Series X in Terms of Popularity, Says New Research
@__jamiie buddy, why the aggression? We should all be happy that developers are getting the bottlenecks removed. This means they can do things that they just couldn’t before. Artists free to make what they envision is a good thing for all.
When the people who make the games are happy that can only mean good things for the gamers who play their games. And the developers are happy indeed with Sony both this current gen and in the lead-up to next gen.
Re: PS5 Completely Outpacing Xbox Series X in Terms of Popularity, Says New Research
@Dezzy70 👍
Re: PS5 Completely Outpacing Xbox Series X in Terms of Popularity, Says New Research
@__jamiie for the ps5 it’s the entire I/O. Don’t take my word for it; I’ve linked proof to you earlier. It’s all about Sony removing the bottlenecks that were limiting game design essentially.
Re: PS5 Completely Outpacing Xbox Series X in Terms of Popularity, Says New Research
@Dezzy70 well that’s uncalled for. Why this response anyways??
Edit: nevermind it’s a reply to that fanboy who created an account to insult me 🤣🤣
Re: PS5 Completely Outpacing Xbox Series X in Terms of Popularity, Says New Research
@__jamiie what Sony has done with the I/O is being called revolutionary by devs though.
One example, there are more: https://www.gamesradar.com/ps5-one-of-the-most-revolutionary-inspired-home-consoles-ever-designed-says-the-order-1886-developer/
Re: PS5 Completely Outpacing Xbox Series X in Terms of Popularity, Says New Research
@__jamiie the quality of games Sony has to offer, not just at launch. It’s an undeniable fact at this point; Sony’s got the better games (granted it’s mostly subjective, but critically it’s a fact).