@swagbag713 as far as when they’ll be compatible it’s either they are or aren’t. It’s not like the Xbox one and the 360 where they had to add games for them to be compatible they either will work or won’t (or will work with bugs).
From my standpoint you’re being purposefully obtuse.
@swagbag713 maybe because you’re not making your point clear.
“ but again, we don't know when they will be exclusive or hwat games will be. My point keeps being cast aside to form a narrative that I'm saying that ps4 won't be compatible. these arguments are exhuasting”
What are you trying to say with this exactly?
If you’re trying to get a list of games that won’t be compatible then you’re ***** out of luck from both Sony and Microsoft (yes, there may also be some last gen games not compatible on the Series X as well, it happens even on pc). Only time and trial and error will get you that list.
@Medic_Alert so don’t believe me, I literally don’t care. It was reported on though or at least mentioned in articles. Not my fault you can’t find it, and I’m not pandering to your need for proof.
@MichaelHawj I agree, this time the world is a very different place though so they’ve got to get the price just right (which is obviously just below the Series X’s price hence the delay; I honestly don’t think we’ll see the price until after Microsoft has released their price point). I’d be happy to be wrong though since I’ve got to make sure my bank account is ready lol.
@Medic_Alert you need a link, really?!?! The controller was in developers hands, they had to release the info or it would’ve certainly leaked. I’m not digging around for links to prove it but it was well known never-the-less.
@Medic_Alert the controller reveal was well known to get ahead of leaks. Unless the situation is the same with the preorders and price I highly doubt it.
@Tharsman well, there’s a difference between what they’re reporting and what you’re doing. You’re saying something is 100% confirmed as being true. Just saying, unnamed sources are wrong about specifics all the time.
@Tharsman the problem with your source is nowhere in any official information does it say what that article says. I’d wait for official confirmation before you shout it from the rooftops.
@Tharsman What linked article? I’ve gone through all official Xbox Information about it and nowhere in that information does it say what you claim it does.
@Tharsman is there any official confirmation of this or are you just guessing?
There is precedence of a save transition being only one way; destiny transition between old gen to new gen and Elderscrolls online - both only moved one way with a gen upgrade. Even if you still played the previous gen versions.
@hayesdude @MrMetroid @NomNom @Jeevz @farore311 and all the other Canadians, buy digitally and save the tax. I pay the same as pretax amount on psn store and no tax added. 12$ or so cheaper each game.
@markzzbr I read and quoted from the source of the article (The press release from the company). I wasn’t arguing against the fact that for the next three months (or when either side backs out of the potential deal completely [which happens all the time btw]) Sony is locked out of the negotiations. There is, however, No deal in place. Refer to what I quoted directly from the release for proof of what I said.
I don’t need to rely on others’ understanding of press releases unlike some others 🙄
Edit: as to your “ Oh, I've read the article and understood it completely, as opposed to you, who can't accept the truth.” comment, please do elaborate how I led you to believe I had read and not understood the article and am not able to accept the truth.
I quoted directly from the press release for my reply to you. “Genius”
@markzzbr the press release is from the 10th of July (edit: which is today, so in other words when he wrote this article it likely wasn’t even out yet) and is by no means a complete deal.
“ As at the date of this announcement, negotiations are still in progress and there is no certainty (a) as to the terms of the Possible Privatization and (b) that the Possible Privatization will proceed or that it will result in a binding agreement. There is no assurance that any negotiations mentioned in this announcement will either materialize or eventually be consummated and the negotiations may or may not lead to a possible acquisition and privatization of the Company.
Shareholders and potential investors of the Company should be aware that the Possible Offer and/or the Possible Privatization may or may not proceed. Shareholders and/ or potential investors of the Company are advised to exercise caution in dealing in the securities of the Company.”
Meaning if in three months they don’t come to an agreement Sony then has a chance to buy them.
@KisekiFan7 do you know what a hostile takeover is?
If it was a hostile take over we would be hearing of Sony buying other people’s’ stock until they get a majority stakeholder position and then initiate a board takeover...
@Diamonddave89 you misspelled “I’m talking out of my ass because I think my opinion is shared by “most people” without having any objective way of proving it”.
@get2sammyb that would make sense given epic’s foray into music/film with fortnite shows and that being right in Sony’s wheelhouse...not to mention the benefits of having easy access for the tech for their movie and music video productions.
@Pain-Nagato-Sama I do, the first game does a good job of showing how emotion and selfishness can override logic and the greater good, the second game shows that violence inevitably leads to more violence and the good side is often decided by your perspective. I don’t expect all who play or experience the story to agree and that’s fine. Good art always leads to strong opinions.
Your trolling attempts were the only sad part of this conversation.
This game truly is something special. The only psvr game I play regularly currently.
One thing that surprised me is how much of a sweat you work up in this game, it’s amazing for cardio (or maybe that’s just me being really out of shape).
I’ve been meaning to buy some music packs any recommendations?
On a side note I was really surprised when I finished the career mode and saw that less than 5% of people had done the same.
@Pain-Nagato-Sama Listen bud. You have no idea “how I see things”. All I’ve said is the second game exceeded the first in my opinion.
Just because you say your opinion is fact does not make it so.
Everything about your reply says you’re trolling. Poorly at that. 0/10 get some skill before trying to troll otherwise it just comes across as pathetic as it has here.
@Pain-Nagato-Sama look, you’re clearly trolling. Someone’s subjective opinion on a piece of art (in this case a game) is not a fact no matter how much you wish it was.
@hoffa007 I mean it’s obviously all guessing at this stage but the rumours are saying it’ll be around 4tf rdna2 with more or less the same cpu as in series x and slightly lower ram.
As to your point about one x being 6 tf that’s true but it’s of different architecture and it’s not a direct comparison as rdna 2 is more powerful.
I think many people will be buying the lower end and will be upset when the ps5 blows it out of the water not understanding it was never really meant to compete with the ps5.
@hoffa007 those are the rumours for its tf level. Who knows at the end of the day, I would expect a “barebones” type experience though which wouldn’t include raytracing.
Edit: as for your linked article in your edit I’m not buying it. I’ll believe it when I see it. With ray tracing capabilities it would need to be more expensive than they’d want to go with the budget system imo.
I much prefer Sony’s approach to games and I am totally not bothered by games being in 30fps.
It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out.
I suspect that not that many people will be too bothered by Sony’s first party titles being a locked 30fps for the likes of GoW, GOT, Spider-Man etc...
I could see Sony having performance and quality modes going forward though if enough people make a fuss.
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Re: Xbox Boss Implies PS5 Exclusives Are 'Counter to What Gaming Is About'
@swagbag713 as far as when they’ll be compatible it’s either they are or aren’t. It’s not like the Xbox one and the 360 where they had to add games for them to be compatible they either will work or won’t (or will work with bugs).
From my standpoint you’re being purposefully obtuse.
Re: Xbox Boss Implies PS5 Exclusives Are 'Counter to What Gaming Is About'
@swagbag713 re read my reply with the edit.
Re: Xbox Boss Implies PS5 Exclusives Are 'Counter to What Gaming Is About'
@swagbag713 maybe because you’re not making your point clear.
“ but again, we don't know when they will be exclusive or hwat games will be. My point keeps being cast aside to form a narrative that I'm saying that ps4 won't be compatible. these arguments are exhuasting”
What are you trying to say with this exactly?
If you’re trying to get a list of games that won’t be compatible then you’re ***** out of luck from both Sony and Microsoft (yes, there may also be some last gen games not compatible on the Series X as well, it happens even on pc). Only time and trial and error will get you that list.
Re: Xbox Boss Implies PS5 Exclusives Are 'Counter to What Gaming Is About'
@swagbag713 I’ve linked you to hard proof that the overwhelming majority of PS4 games are going to be compatible, so nothing to fear.
Re: Xbox Boss Implies PS5 Exclusives Are 'Counter to What Gaming Is About'
@swagbag713 except it hasn’t been unclear at all: they’ve already announced the vast majority of PS4 games will work on the ps5.
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/03/guide_ps5_backwards_compatibility_-_can_you_play_ps4_games_on_playstation_5_which_playstation_4_games_work_on_ps5_and_does_ps5_play_ps1_ps2_or_ps3_games
Re: PS5 Pre-Order Pages Live on Amazon Australia
@NomNom also my worry.
Re: PS5 Pre-Order Pages Live on Amazon Australia
@Medic_Alert 👍
Re: PS5 Pre-Order Pages Live on Amazon Australia
@Medic_Alert so don’t believe me, I literally don’t care. It was reported on though or at least mentioned in articles. Not my fault you can’t find it, and I’m not pandering to your need for proof.
Re: PS5 Pre-Order Pages Live on Amazon Australia
@MichaelHawj I agree, this time the world is a very different place though so they’ve got to get the price just right (which is obviously just below the Series X’s price hence the delay; I honestly don’t think we’ll see the price until after Microsoft has released their price point). I’d be happy to be wrong though since I’ve got to make sure my bank account is ready lol.
Re: PS5 Pre-Order Pages Live on Amazon Australia
@Medic_Alert you need a link, really?!?! The controller was in developers hands, they had to release the info or it would’ve certainly leaked. I’m not digging around for links to prove it but it was well known never-the-less.
Re: PS5 Pre-Order Pages Live on Amazon Australia
@MichaelHawj I’ll also likely go with digital.
I’ve got fibre optic 1.5gbps up/down so speed isn’t an issue and also no stupid data caps.
Re: PS5 Pre-Order Pages Live on Amazon Australia
@Medic_Alert the controller reveal was well known to get ahead of leaks. Unless the situation is the same with the preorders and price I highly doubt it.
Re: Xbox Is Pushing for Free Next-Gen Upgrades, And That's Good News for PS5
@Tharsman “and that’s how it works on every game for Xbox”
I’m sorry, I was unaware that the Xbox series x had already been released and smart delivery rolled out...
Re: Xbox Is Pushing for Free Next-Gen Upgrades, And That's Good News for PS5
@Tharsman well, there’s a difference between what they’re reporting and what you’re doing. You’re saying something is 100% confirmed as being true. Just saying, unnamed sources are wrong about specifics all the time.
Re: Xbox Is Pushing for Free Next-Gen Upgrades, And That's Good News for PS5
@Tharsman the problem with your source is nowhere in any official information does it say what that article says. I’d wait for official confirmation before you shout it from the rooftops.
Re: Xbox Is Pushing for Free Next-Gen Upgrades, And That's Good News for PS5
@Tharsman What linked article? I’ve gone through all official Xbox Information about it and nowhere in that information does it say what you claim it does.
Go ahead and quote where it says that in this official Xbox communique from last month: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/06/15/what-is-smart-delivery-xbox-series-x/
Re: Xbox Is Pushing for Free Next-Gen Upgrades, And That's Good News for PS5
@Tharsman is there any official confirmation of this or are you just guessing?
There is precedence of a save transition being only one way; destiny transition between old gen to new gen and Elderscrolls online - both only moved one way with a gen upgrade. Even if you still played the previous gen versions.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Writer John Gonzalez Exits Guerrilla Games
@Diamonddave89 got it, so not only do you like to make broad opinion statements without proof you’re also a twelve year old 😂.
Re: Poll: Would You Pay $70 for a Brand New PS5 Game?
@NomNom yeah me too probably
Re: Poll: Would You Pay $70 for a Brand New PS5 Game?
@hayesdude @MrMetroid @NomNom @Jeevz @farore311 and all the other Canadians, buy digitally and save the tax. I pay the same as pretax amount on psn store and no tax added. 12$ or so cheaper each game.
Re: Leyou Technologies Halts Trading Ahead of Possible Sony Takeover
@markzzbr I read and quoted from the source of the article (The press release from the company). I wasn’t arguing against the fact that for the next three months (or when either side backs out of the potential deal completely [which happens all the time btw]) Sony is locked out of the negotiations. There is, however, No deal in place. Refer to what I quoted directly from the release for proof of what I said.
https://www1.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listconews/sehk/2020/0710/2020071000536.pdf
I don’t need to rely on others’ understanding of press releases unlike some others 🙄
Edit: as to your “ Oh, I've read the article and understood it completely, as opposed to you, who can't accept the truth.” comment, please do elaborate how I led you to believe I had read and not understood the article and am not able to accept the truth.
I quoted directly from the press release for my reply to you. “Genius”
Re: Rumour: Black and Red PS5 Console Spotted in Sony Marketing Material
Yeah I think I prefer the white one.
Re: Far Cry 6 Leaks for PS5 and PS4, Launches 18th February 2021
@carlos82 it’s almost prohibitively big at times, isn’t it?
Like give me 20-30% smaller with 50% more density and good world building with things other than trees.
Re: Leyou Technologies Halts Trading Ahead of Possible Sony Takeover
@markzzbr the press release is from the 10th of July (edit: which is today, so in other words when he wrote this article it likely wasn’t even out yet) and is by no means a complete deal.
“ As at the date of this announcement, negotiations are still in progress and there is no certainty (a) as to the terms of the Possible Privatization and (b) that the Possible Privatization will proceed or that it will result in a binding agreement. There is no assurance that any negotiations mentioned in this announcement will either materialize or eventually be consummated and the negotiations may or may not lead to a possible acquisition and privatization of the Company.
Shareholders and potential investors of the Company should be aware that the Possible Offer and/or the Possible Privatization may or may not proceed. Shareholders and/ or potential investors of the Company are advised to exercise caution in dealing in the securities of the Company.”
Meaning if in three months they don’t come to an agreement Sony then has a chance to buy them.
Re: Leyou Technologies Halts Trading Ahead of Possible Sony Takeover
@markzzbr I’m guessing you’re unaware that there are usually more than one set of interested parties... and as Liam said, maybe read the article.
Edited for iPhone autocorrect crap 😂
Re: Leyou Technologies Halts Trading Ahead of Possible Sony Takeover
@KisekiFan7 do you know what a hostile takeover is?
If it was a hostile take over we would be hearing of Sony buying other people’s’ stock until they get a majority stakeholder position and then initiate a board takeover...
Re: Far Cry 6 Leaks for PS5 and PS4, Launches 18th February 2021
I have been getting really burned out on far cry’s gameplay to be honest. I hope they’ve made some much needed changes to the formula.
I’ll still be getting it no doubt, but I’m not sure I would again if it’s more of the same old same old.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Writer John Gonzalez Exits Guerrilla Games
@Diamonddave89 you misspelled “I’m talking out of my ass because I think my opinion is shared by “most people” without having any objective way of proving it”.
Re: After The Last of Us 2's Record Success, Naughty Dog Is Staffing Up for PS5
@Akurusu so, like rockstar released gta online later than gta v and it became this massive cash cow for rockstar? Like that?
Re: Sony Pumps $250 Million into Fortnite Maker Epic Games
@Mafia_Man19 to be fair; you don’t know what the terms of the contract are so you can’t say it means nothing for sure.
It likely means nothing, or it could mean something.
🤷♂️
Edit also, refer to my other comments. I wasn’t playing it up bigger than it is at all 🤦♂️
Re: Sony Pumps $250 Million into Fortnite Maker Epic Games
@Ben8371 there are likely other benefits baked into the deal to sweeten the pot so-to-speak.
License free use for their media would be a big one (or reduced fees). Some others too that savvy business people likely though ahead about as well...
Re: Sony Pumps $250 Million into Fortnite Maker Epic Games
@Ben8371 it’s actually 1.47% if they made the deal at the current market valuation of $17,000,000,000.
Re: Sony Pumps $250 Million into Fortnite Maker Epic Games
@get2sammyb that would make sense given epic’s foray into music/film with fortnite shows and that being right in Sony’s wheelhouse...not to mention the benefits of having easy access for the tech for their movie and music video productions.
Re: Sony Pumps $250 Million into Fortnite Maker Epic Games
Interesting... I wonder what this will mean for exclusives coming from epic.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Writer John Gonzalez Exits Guerrilla Games
@Pain-Nagato-Sama I do, the first game does a good job of showing how emotion and selfishness can override logic and the greater good, the second game shows that violence inevitably leads to more violence and the good side is often decided by your perspective. I don’t expect all who play or experience the story to agree and that’s fine. Good art always leads to strong opinions.
Your trolling attempts were the only sad part of this conversation.
Re: Soapbox: Beat Saber, or How I Learned To Stop Hating the Song Packs and Love Imagine Dragons
This game truly is something special. The only psvr game I play regularly currently.
One thing that surprised me is how much of a sweat you work up in this game, it’s amazing for cardio (or maybe that’s just me being really out of shape).
I’ve been meaning to buy some music packs any recommendations?
On a side note I was really surprised when I finished the career mode and saw that less than 5% of people had done the same.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Writer John Gonzalez Exits Guerrilla Games
@Pain-Nagato-Sama Listen bud. You have no idea “how I see things”. All I’ve said is the second game exceeded the first in my opinion.
Just because you say your opinion is fact does not make it so.
Everything about your reply says you’re trolling. Poorly at that. 0/10 get some skill before trying to troll otherwise it just comes across as pathetic as it has here.
Re: As Microsoft Looks Poised to Discontinue Xbox One, Sony Has a Huge Opportunity with PS4
@SuperNintendoMii also my thinking. I think we’re going to be happy with the price points.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Writer John Gonzalez Exits Guerrilla Games
@Pain-Nagato-Sama look, you’re clearly trolling. Someone’s subjective opinion on a piece of art (in this case a game) is not a fact no matter how much you wish it was.
Re: As Microsoft Looks Poised to Discontinue Xbox One, Sony Has a Huge Opportunity with PS4
@hoffa007 I mean it’s obviously all guessing at this stage but the rumours are saying it’ll be around 4tf rdna2 with more or less the same cpu as in series x and slightly lower ram.
As to your point about one x being 6 tf that’s true but it’s of different architecture and it’s not a direct comparison as rdna 2 is more powerful.
I think many people will be buying the lower end and will be upset when the ps5 blows it out of the water not understanding it was never really meant to compete with the ps5.
Re: As Microsoft Looks Poised to Discontinue Xbox One, Sony Has a Huge Opportunity with PS4
@Tharsman I’d say they count since it’s one of their studios making it.
Re: As Microsoft Looks Poised to Discontinue Xbox One, Sony Has a Huge Opportunity with PS4
@Ryall we’ll see.
Re: As Microsoft Looks Poised to Discontinue Xbox One, Sony Has a Huge Opportunity with PS4
@Tharsman pretty sure there will be a new mlb game they release on PS4.
Re: As Microsoft Looks Poised to Discontinue Xbox One, Sony Has a Huge Opportunity with PS4
@Ryall I don’t think it would be a linear curve for the raytracing features.
Only time will tell what will be the actual case.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Writer John Gonzalez Exits Guerrilla Games
@GADG3Tx87 In your opinion it doesn’t hold a candle to the original.
I think it exceeds it. See how opinions work 😉
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Writer John Gonzalez Exits Guerrilla Games
@Kirbyboy92 the sky is falling!
Loads of good writers out there. This is not that big of a deal.
Re: As Microsoft Looks Poised to Discontinue Xbox One, Sony Has a Huge Opportunity with PS4
@hoffa007 those are the rumours for its tf level. Who knows at the end of the day, I would expect a “barebones” type experience though which wouldn’t include raytracing.
Edit: as for your linked article in your edit I’m not buying it. I’ll believe it when I see it. With ray tracing capabilities it would need to be more expensive than they’d want to go with the budget system imo.
Re: As Microsoft Looks Poised to Discontinue Xbox One, Sony Has a Huge Opportunity with PS4
I much prefer Sony’s approach to games and I am totally not bothered by games being in 30fps.
It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out.
I suspect that not that many people will be too bothered by Sony’s first party titles being a locked 30fps for the likes of GoW, GOT, Spider-Man etc...
I could see Sony having performance and quality modes going forward though if enough people make a fuss.
Re: As Microsoft Looks Poised to Discontinue Xbox One, Sony Has a Huge Opportunity with PS4
@hoffa007 not a chance a 4tf Xbox series S has raytracing.
Re: Capcom Wants to Know What You Think of Resident Evil Village
@Gremio108 3/10 needs more neck guards