Llamageddon

@Bingoboyop I may have got the wrong end of the stick on this one, my apologies. I would be shocked if the s game trailer doesn't have people turning up to complain about Sony though, well maybe not people just trolls and bots.

I think it will all depend on the price point. This is the kind of smaller title I enjoy as a palette cleanser and it's very different to the big hitters releasing around that time.
Fingers crossed it finds it's audience

@Bingoboyop I think what this person was alluding to is that it's not cool to attack a group of people (S-game Devs) for a decision Sony made. Unless of course you think putting innocent people in the cross fire because you're upset is fine?

@Leinad7 I totally agree but that just makes Sony the same as every other publicly traded company.

@Bingoboyop this is all about eradicating the second hand market and lending. Every time someone buys a pre-owned game or lends to family/friends, Sony get absolutely nothing. Sony are probably expecting any losses from people leaving the ecosystem will be offset by people actually having to buy a game in order to play it.
Don't get me wrong I'm against any corporate decision that takes choice away from the consumer but this is about the least surprising development there is and I guarantee all other platform holders will follow suit in the near future.

@Leinad7 it was a shareholders meeting so addressing it was unavoidable. All they said is that all this noise has had zero impact and there is no need to worry (from a shareholders perspective).

Out of interest are there any big games coming out on the week of the boycott? If there isn't then it probably won't register at all for Sony.

Well there goes any hope of a new burnout, hopefully star wars galactic racer can scratch that itch.

@ButteredCrumpet I agree that better consumer rights is a better and more far reaching cause but I also accept that people will always be resistant to change.
This group will include people fighting for game preservation or game collectors but I feel the main group are those who buy and sell 2nd hand or lend their games to others. I've no problem with how people choose to consume/pay for their hobby but at the end of the day they are the least valuable group to platform holders because of that choice.
I just take umbrage when people take a shotgun to a situation that requires nuance.

There are so many ways to criticize Sony directly that there really is no excuse for this.
Trying to blame Sony for misdirected vitriol is quite frankly blinkered and embarrassing in my opinion.
I was empathetic to the cause but that feeling is eroding rapidly when it becomes this senseless.

@SMJ much better than a short snarky comment that adds nothing to the conversation.

I am looking forward to this much more than I did Ragnarok. I liked the story and characterisation in the new games but I found the combat a bit boring at times.
I know people have gotten hyper focused on the protagonist and writing in Laufeys trailer but for me I got excited by what seems to be a more bombastic combat style and a really unique setting.
Hoping it lives up to my expectations and I'm sure there will continue to be naysayers but as that same crowd like to trot out 'a game for everyone is a game for no-one'.

I already have a deck and steam library so for me it would be a case of refocusing rather than leaving.
In all honesty though I will probably just wait for the dust to settle and make my decision if/when I am ready to upgrade to the next gen.
I honestly don't see myself going the PC route due to the faff of settings and the rampant cheating online. Each to their own though, we all have different priorities I guess.
This poll was always going to draw an emotional response due to it's proximity to recent controversies, so I'll take it with a pinch of salt (as I do all polls on enthusiast sites such as these).

I'm all for the Devs wanting to 'mourn' their friends and colleagues being let go but they could have raised a glass to them after work without involving social media. They chose to go for something overtly dramatic in a vigil and post it on social media.
To me it makes it feel like it's a protest to the decision makers whilst pretending to be something else.

@8th_Observer of course but nobody is making you consume (also aren't you complaining about me having an opinion on others opinions 🤔). The Devs chose to change a character slightly in their game just like Miyazaki chooses to not add difficulty settings. It just seems like an incredibly insignificant thing to have a tantrum over especially as we don't actually know any facts yet.

Yawn, nobody is being forced to buy the game and it looks like the Devs weren't forced to make changes.
If you have a strong opinion on this then you're gaming wrong in my opinion, total nothing burger.

@shiningpikablu252 the Japanese are incredibly respectful so I just don't see it (I mean they were cleaning up the stadiums post match at the world cup). So I wouldn't get your hopes up too much for that kind of drama at TGS.

I'm tempted to get a steam machine as my deck in docked mode doesn't cut it and I would like to have the option of mods, plus I already have a sizable library.
I expect my ps5 to last me well into the next gen if it's anything like the last cross gen period.
As for ps6, I will cross that bridge when I come to it, maybe I won't even be gaming by then.

Looking forward to the next update that tells us it has passed 210,000 signatures, this is so much better than having a variety of gaming stories.
Long may it continue 🙄

@Schonks you may well be right but none of that is applicable to how I purchase my games. I was comparing the bud light situation to the playstation situation (assuming that's the comment you were replying to).
Simply stating that neither Xbox or playstation are having a great time at the moment and if you don't believe me then there are plenty of quotes from Asha confirming as much.
I really have no interest in getting into some tedious console war, apologies if that's how you interpreted my previous comment.

@Mr-Cage it is a strange world we're living in at the moment and the reason why sites like this are the closest I get to social media. It truly is a cesspool of attention seeking, vacuous hyperbole (in my opinion).

@Mr-Cage they made a trans influencer the face of their brand if I remember correctly

@ShadowRJ apologies if I in any way contributed, I always try to discuss in good faith and I believe you do too.
Hope your mental health improves buddy.

@UnlimitedSevens difference being bud light had competent competitors.
Playstations main competitor Xboxs plan.

Step 1: remove studios adding value to game pass and gut well respected studios.
Step 2: release what is sounding like it will be the most prohibitively expensive console on the market.
Step 3: profit
Sony's only saving grace is that it's most direct competitor is far from nailing things.
Genuinely not console warring just pointing out the different circumstances surrounding bud light and playstation

@themightyant hadn't thought of that and you may well be right. Nintendo fans seem to be more forgiving of their platform from the past controversies I've seen so Sony might not be as unscathed as they hope if that's the route they take.
I too support people protesting, I guess I just feel more jaded about it's efficacy. Hogwarts legacy had a huge amount of negative coverage and amounted to nothing though I accept I am somewhat comparing apples and oranges.

@themightyant i think everyone who has a vested interest in playstation is already aware of this latest controversy and have decided how they feel about it. I totally support people's rights to protest and let Sony know how they feel. I just don't think it's ultimately going to amount to much, voting with your wallet is they only way to truly make change and gta6 is about to give Sony an enormous financial boost regardless of all this.

Let me preface this by saying I think choice is a good thing and taking choice away from your consumers is bad (even if it isn't affecting my own purchasing habits).
There are a combined 200m units sold of PS4/PS5 so 57k comments is not as much as people would like you to believe and that's not even taking into account there will be some who are just outrage bandwagoning amongst them.
This reaction simply is not big enough in scale for Sony to change their decision.
570k comments might have given them food for thought.

@Zuljaras so true, I will never understand why people will go out of their to defend corporations that only care about how much money they can extract from us.
It seems to me people are terrified of possibly looking a bit foolish to total strangers because they might have backed the wrong horse, I have infinitely more respect for people capable of showing an ounce of humility.
What an age we live in, I think I might just go and become a hermit for some peace of mind.

One thing is for certain, this news has been massive for Push square and it's engagement metrics. Every cloud as they say.

@Zuljaras though I like the meme, it is somewhat misleading as it would also suggest Sony are the heroes of the story and the disgruntled gamers are corrupted monsters

@Pat_trick that is a depressing thought that the people taking the brunt of gamers ire had nothing to do with the decision making.

@Banjo- it really has been an eye opener to what a convoluted mess parts of the Xbox infrastructure had become.
I'm just hoping we see a bit more stability from all the platforms moving forward.

@AdamNovice I think it's a stroke of genius. There are so many people discussing and being happy that those studios haven't been shut down that it is distracting from the 3200 that have lost their job.
Xbox has played the public very well here.

@Old-Red I appreciate the response and receipt. It was quite enlightening but as time goes on it does show digital catching up to and occasionally surpassing physical. This data set also seems to be a few years old now but consider me better informed nonetheless.
Thanks again

@Old-Red any sources for that stat? I would be interested to read the article

@Ultimapunch I'm not sure why you believe physical customers are the 'core' of the playstation platform given it generates far less money than digital.
They are the core of the second hand market though which Sony doesn't see a penny from.
Now if it was the other way around and you could only purchase physically then that would destroy the brand entirely.
Most of these arguments are coming from an emotional place rather than a logical one (not necessarily yourself).

@Fyz306903 Probably not even then as I reckon the cross gen period is going to be even longer than the last.
As they say, we are now at the point of diminishing returns in gaming.

@Oram77 essentially yes, but there will always be exceptions.

@get2sammyb you got there quicker than me and honestly your reply sounds a lot more informed than mine.

@Porco you're not wrong but I didn't quote percentages just that physical isn't as popular as it once was.
Yes digital will include dlc, micro transactions etc but do you think Sony are making more money from people buying and selling second hand or a casual gamer buying multiple skins on COD?
Also it's generational, most people on here I get the impression are 30 y/o or over and so we are used to physical collections of movies, music, games but the newest generation of gamers have grown up with all digital collections and subscriptions.
I'm honestly not trying to defend Sony or it's decision, more suggesting it's not as surprising as people are making it out to be and Sony won't have made this decision simply for the lols.

Yes, this is anti consumer but ultimately this decision has been made because of a continuing decline of physical sales over many years. I'm sure the money men have crunched the numbers rather than this just being a big gamble.
This is hardly the first poll on push that didn't align with the broader playstation audience and more highlights the fact the site is populated by the more 'hardcore' if you will.
I doubt any of the next gen machines will have a disk drive to be honest and I'm sure Microsoft are overjoyed that Sony decided to blink first on announcing this.
I will admit this is an easier pill for me to swallow as I haven't bought physical in over a decade and I save money by simply working through my backlog and buying newer games when they get a decent sale.

@ShadowRJ you have more faith in humanity than me it seems, hoping you are right but I'm gonna stick to my gut feeling on this one.

@ShadowRJ they are probably banking on people's increasingly short attention span and proclivity for jumping on the latest outrage (xbox's supposed 'bloodbath' that is apparently due very soon).
News moves faster than ever and this will be forgotten by the majority quicker than you think in my opinion.
Maybe this will rumble on and force Sony's hand but I just don't see it.

Digital to physical sales have only been trending in 1 direction and PC gave up physical years ago.
I genuinely feel bad for those that prefer physical for whatever reasons they have but this decision really shouldn't have been as surprising as people are making it out to be.
It seems most of playstations physical purchasers also frequent this website. Physical is going the way of cd's and DVD's and no amount of pearl clutching is going to change that. This was always inevitable.

October is the more stacked month for me personally, looking forward to this one though.

@themightyant I think Xbox is desperately trying to make day 1 on game pass work as it is without a doubt it's biggest selling point. You take away day 1 you probably kill game pass entirely, which is why in my opinion it wouldn't be the first thing to change in a 'reset'. It has become too synonymous with the Xbox brand now.
I more or less agree with your position on the subject but I'm just offering a possible explanation. Given Microsoft's propensity to exclusively use circuitous language it's hard to make heads or tails out of anything these days.

@NerdyPaul you are aware of the fact you have taken time out of 'getting on with your day' to post multiple comments thus ensuring we get more articles like this.
Doesn't seem like you shrugged it off at all to be honest, if people don't want more of these pseudo articles then they have to actually not engage rather than pretend that they don't care.
Not trying to single you out, I just see so many of these types of comments and it makes no logical sense to me.

@Oram77 I'm no stranger to playing games on easy but I must admit their story mode setting really was an absolute cakewalk.
I trust Capcom more than most though and I suppose having options means I can't complain too much!

Unpleasant news as it always is, I hope bungie can bounce back (no pun intended).
They still have best in class shooting mechanics and I enjoyed my time with the destiny games but I am a single player only gamer. If they ever decide to put in a single player campaign then I am absolutely there for it.
The biggest issue was the ridiculous budget for an obviously niche game, Sony really needed to intervene much earlier, nobody comes out of this looking good.

@Rich33 Have you noticed how nobody complains when a harder difficulty is added to a game post release. Even though that wasn't how the game was designed etc....
People simply don't want to share 'their' thing or achievement or however they perceive it.
I agree the gating off of trophies or the 'true ending' is a reasonable compromise.