Sony's acquirement of 5% of Devolver seems like an awesome move and a strong rebuttal that Sony just don't care about indies. So far enter the gungeon, dead cells, messenger, hotline Miami are awesome games. Devolver knows what they are doing, and Sony knows what devolver are doing. 🙈
@theheadofabroom The sexy brutale on console was lovely, only spoiled by some of the worst performance. The switch and ps4 version were really bad. Ps5 will probably blitz it though.
@lolwhatno There are people who want to stir up trouble and animosity. And they want to keep that going. They are from all sides of the religious and atheist spectrum unfortunately. I'm not religious in the strongest way that's practiced but a monotheistic God(which all 3 abrahamic religions teach) is a fantastic move. The universe is probably just one piece in an infinite set of representations of the beauty of God. (Though I think this world/reality is a 'vacation' from an otherwise nigh on perfect existence that is here to fill out the experience of God wanting us to have freewill, warts and all).
@theheadofabroom it makes sense that pc is a haven for indies, that's where the games are made after all.
I'd wager a lot of dev time on pc is still spent on making sure the game runs the same across all the pc combinations. Console is one spec. Import the mouse and keyboard options. Then add some controller functionality. We don't know how much money is still on the table. What we do know is that console sales are booming, and the software is still selling very well(on ps and Nintendo at least).
I'd recommend any pc Dev who has a good well recieved game to make a console version. The most complicated part of the port is probably converting from indirectx to a ps API, but then there are probably a lot of great tools to help this. It is just a matter of symantics and converting names at that level.
EDIT:. In terms of group engagement, I don't imagine discord integration into the ps system early next year would hurt that growing dynamic.
@theheadofabroom The fact that a lot of these games don't come to console just means that some Devs are ok to leave money on the table. And that's fine. I don't think optimising a game one last time for console(absolute specs) for a game that's already doing well on pc is a good situation for not putting it on console.
Sidenote:. Death Stranding on ps5 has the option to use mouse and keyboard. That's probably been added to keep people happy accessibility wise.
Even Sony seeing for example god of war sell 19.5m copies, and after giving it free on ps plus collection have now seen there is money STILL on the table.
This can go two ways. The launch of psvr2 next year would be great for everybody if halfife alyx was a launch title. I mean Sony only spearheaded vr as a mainstream viable platform. The new steam handheld has benefitted by having Sony promote horizon on it. Like I say, this cross seeding CAN go both ways.
On the subject of Minecraft, it would be good to see this games statistics console sales wise v pc sales wise considering it started out and blossomed on pc.
@theheadofabroom Im sure the functionality exists to put mouse into ps5, you can already use a keyboard. I'm not surprised Sony doesn't allow compiled user code...that could be disastrous. The new Skyrim special features a lot of the creator club mods.
@theheadofabroom The indie game scene I am with you on. But I am happy to let pc players sift through the torrent, identify the quality and port it to ps5. The good thing about the current consoles is that we can also get competent ports of pc games too. People sometimes stress that the best ps5 exclusives are through time finding their way to pc. Well the exact opposite could also be true. PC Devs! Make your great games on console to a good degree and they WILL be bought.
I just like sitting at my console.
Though I do love developing software on pc. It has its strengths.
@naruball Sony (and Nintendo) have been near death since PS2 and N64 respectively. Fast forward and every single competitive maneuvre from every other industry to change things away from these companies keeps failing. Microsoft, mobiles, pcs, cloud, streaming, subscriptions. And Sony and Nintendo keep making record profits based solely on their gaming divisions. These people seem to be quite delusional("Next time, Gadget!!!!"). A view into an alternate reality they are sad they don't live in 🙈
@Telekill Youve seen dozens? Well why didn't you say!!! 🙈. Also how many of those people are just saying it to inflame the situation? I'll play my ps5 thanks. Then I'll get a ps5pro. Lovely playstation. Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhg !!!!
@theheadofabroom Thats the point I think...more expensive and much more complicated. A £700+ series S? Yikes. Also in my view a pc should be a monster. If you want a low-mid pc for gaming then it will be much cheaper for a console. Why would I want a series s spec pc when I could get a ps5 and still have hundreds left over? I'm not attacking you sorry. I'm not seeing the logic. Also in 3 years I get to trade my ps5 for a pro. Future proofing.
@theheadofabroom You make it all sound so simple 😂😂😂. Also get some good antivirus software, and watch who you play online, don't know if your gonna be competing or getting hacked. Also all new releases won't be optimised for pc. Oh and watch the motherboard because they bevel with graphics cards in them conveniently disconnecting the contacts.
@JAMes-BroWWWn I remember similar talk when OG Xbox hit the market. They were actually throwing ps2s out of high rise windows for every so many units Xbox sold. Sony have been in a constant state of being 'doomed' since PS2 time. Are their sales slowing? Are their games slowing? How about psplus subscribers? Is psnow now at the highest it's ever been? What about awesome profits and intellegent investments? What about Sony basically part spearheading the chip shortage problem in Japan with new factories?
@Khitzi Nice big expensive PC. Lovely multiplayer where you don't know if who you are playing against is actually cheating against you or attacking your machine. Countless complexities abound. Thank God for cheaper alternatives that are powerful and more simple.
I actually managed to add a game to Favourites, not Wishlist...does any body know about that? Also wishlist has been getting a lot of attention for great Indies thanks to this relatively quiet period till it all kicks off on Feb 🙈
@boogieman117 If the Dreamcast refused to boot from cdr's the whole crisis could have been averted. Going to all that trouble to use gdroms and then just boots from a CDR. 🤯
It should be noted jailbroken switches and also completely emulated switches have not harmed hw or software sales for that platform. And the ps5 is not currently emulatable.
That's good news. I complained on here regarding this very issue after buying the game. Good to see the options for PS4 games running on ps5 using more of the features, though I'm guessing rdna2 features are still off the table?
@Rural-Bandit You got my opinion on the subject. Nobodies telling you what you can and can't post. And nobodies telling me that I can't respond to your posts.
@Rural-Bandit You Do You bud. I don't know why your extolling your opinion on gamepass on a ps site celebrating a ps milestone, but whatever. Very happy ps owner here, and that's that.
@Shepherd_Tallon Exactly. Playstation has powerful momentum. Some will jump to pc. Loads won't. And it will attract new players. I'm a console player, and I'll choose playstation until that is not an option.
@zebric21 What charts are you referring to when you say ps5 games don't make the charts? Please be specific because from where I'm sitting Sony is doing a good job in terms of 1st and 3rd party software stats.
There is a level of tenseness and excitement that I may have missed had I used a save state. Part of the fun for me was the "Oh f**k NOOO!" after being whooped after an initially promising run. Hands sweating. Too far to retreat now.
@OMG_Waffles One of the best ways of dealing with returnal is to keep on the move. This way most projectiles will miss you. I'm very surprised to hear you beat souls games plus nioh games and your finding returnal too difficult. It is difficult and dealing with those flying drones I think on biome 4 is a nightmare. The kamikaze ones. If you have the patience and ability to beat those games you'll have returnal in the bag if you have the will.
@JJ2 The big most recent patch for PS4 basically allowed discs to be played even if the system was not online and the battery had run out. That was about 3-4 weeks ago. Before that time PS4 was locked out of disk games if not online and battery was dead. Now it's not. So that's a very recent development and game sale ratios were still in ps favour before that DRM patch. I'm also not wanting to start a war.
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Re: Big PS Store Indie Sale Includes 1,200 PS5, PS4 Game Deals
Sony's acquirement of 5% of Devolver seems like an awesome move and a strong rebuttal that Sony just don't care about indies. So far enter the gungeon, dead cells, messenger, hotline Miami are awesome games. Devolver knows what they are doing, and Sony knows what devolver are doing. 🙈
Re: Big PS Store Indie Sale Includes 1,200 PS5, PS4 Game Deals
@theheadofabroom The sexy brutale on console was lovely, only spoiled by some of the worst performance. The switch and ps4 version were really bad. Ps5 will probably blitz it though.
Re: UK Sales Charts: It Might Be Underperforming, But Call of Duty: Vanguard Is Still Top Dog
@lolwhatno There are people who want to stir up trouble and animosity. And they want to keep that going. They are from all sides of the religious and atheist spectrum unfortunately. I'm not religious in the strongest way that's practiced but a monotheistic God(which all 3 abrahamic religions teach) is a fantastic move. The universe is probably just one piece in an infinite set of representations of the beauty of God. (Though I think this world/reality is a 'vacation' from an otherwise nigh on perfect existence that is here to fill out the experience of God wanting us to have freewill, warts and all).
Sorry, little bit off topic 🙈
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@theheadofabroom it makes sense that pc is a haven for indies, that's where the games are made after all.
I'd wager a lot of dev time on pc is still spent on making sure the game runs the same across all the pc combinations. Console is one spec. Import the mouse and keyboard options. Then add some controller functionality. We don't know how much money is still on the table. What we do know is that console sales are booming, and the software is still selling very well(on ps and Nintendo at least).
I'd recommend any pc Dev who has a good well recieved game to make a console version. The most complicated part of the port is probably converting from indirectx to a ps API, but then there are probably a lot of great tools to help this. It is just a matter of symantics and converting names at that level.
EDIT:. In terms of group engagement, I don't imagine discord integration into the ps system early next year would hurt that growing dynamic.
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@theheadofabroom The fact that a lot of these games don't come to console just means that some Devs are ok to leave money on the table. And that's fine. I don't think optimising a game one last time for console(absolute specs) for a game that's already doing well on pc is a good situation for not putting it on console.
Sidenote:. Death Stranding on ps5 has the option to use mouse and keyboard. That's probably been added to keep people happy accessibility wise.
Even Sony seeing for example god of war sell 19.5m copies, and after giving it free on ps plus collection have now seen there is money STILL on the table.
This can go two ways. The launch of psvr2 next year would be great for everybody if halfife alyx was a launch title. I mean Sony only spearheaded vr as a mainstream viable platform. The new steam handheld has benefitted by having Sony promote horizon on it. Like I say, this cross seeding CAN go both ways.
On the subject of Minecraft, it would be good to see this games statistics console sales wise v pc sales wise considering it started out and blossomed on pc.
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@theheadofabroom Im sure the functionality exists to put mouse into ps5, you can already use a keyboard. I'm not surprised Sony doesn't allow compiled user code...that could be disastrous. The new Skyrim special features a lot of the creator club mods.
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@NEStalgia Yes, almost nobody talks about pc owners also buying consoles. It would be nice to have some stats to cut through the bs.
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@theheadofabroom The indie game scene I am with you on. But I am happy to let pc players sift through the torrent, identify the quality and port it to ps5. The good thing about the current consoles is that we can also get competent ports of pc games too. People sometimes stress that the best ps5 exclusives are through time finding their way to pc. Well the exact opposite could also be true. PC Devs! Make your great games on console to a good degree and they WILL be bought.
I just like sitting at my console.
Though I do love developing software on pc. It has its strengths.
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@Umar Yeah, Sony are rueing the day right enough. Right to the bank 🙈
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@naruball Sony (and Nintendo) have been near death since PS2 and N64 respectively. Fast forward and every single competitive maneuvre from every other industry to change things away from these companies keeps failing. Microsoft, mobiles, pcs, cloud, streaming, subscriptions. And Sony and Nintendo keep making record profits based solely on their gaming divisions. These people seem to be quite delusional("Next time, Gadget!!!!"). A view into an alternate reality they are sad they don't live in 🙈
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@Telekill Youve seen dozens? Well why didn't you say!!! 🙈. Also how many of those people are just saying it to inflame the situation? I'll play my ps5 thanks. Then I'll get a ps5pro. Lovely playstation. Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhg !!!!
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@theheadofabroom Thats the point I think...more expensive and much more complicated. A £700+ series S? Yikes. Also in my view a pc should be a monster. If you want a low-mid pc for gaming then it will be much cheaper for a console. Why would I want a series s spec pc when I could get a ps5 and still have hundreds left over? I'm not attacking you sorry. I'm not seeing the logic. Also in 3 years I get to trade my ps5 for a pro. Future proofing.
Re: Mini Review: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Anniversary Edition (PS5) - A Still Great RPG Bolstered By a Lot of New Content
I dont know what to think of this games many releases and still no comprehensive bug fixing. I dont think it deserves my money.
Re: October 2021 NPD: PS5 Is Still the Best-Selling US System of the Year
😍Ps5😍 You little beauty 🙈
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@theheadofabroom You make it all sound so simple 😂😂😂. Also get some good antivirus software, and watch who you play online, don't know if your gonna be competing or getting hacked. Also all new releases won't be optimised for pc. Oh and watch the motherboard because they bevel with graphics cards in them conveniently disconnecting the contacts.
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@Telekill What negative impact on sales is it currently having? 🙈🙈🙈
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@iamtylerdurden1 Aye. He IS a clown 🙈🙈🙈
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@Juanalf horizon and death stranding both run better on ps5 since patches according to DF and VG gamer.
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@JAMes-BroWWWn I remember similar talk when OG Xbox hit the market. They were actually throwing ps2s out of high rise windows for every so many units Xbox sold. Sony have been in a constant state of being 'doomed' since PS2 time. Are their sales slowing? Are their games slowing? How about psplus subscribers? Is psnow now at the highest it's ever been? What about awesome profits and intellegent investments? What about Sony basically part spearheading the chip shortage problem in Japan with new factories?
Re: Japanese Publisher Implies PlayStation Audience Is Transitioning to PC
@Khitzi Nice big expensive PC. Lovely multiplayer where you don't know if who you are playing against is actually cheating against you or attacking your machine. Countless complexities abound. Thank God for cheaper alternatives that are powerful and more simple.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Far Cry 6 and FIFA 22 the Most Downloaded PS5 Titles
@lolwhatno No, that's what they keep wanting you to think 🙈
Re: Did You Know the PS Store Wishlist Notifies You of PS5, PS4 Game Sales?
I actually managed to add a game to Favourites, not Wishlist...does any body know about that? Also wishlist has been getting a lot of attention for great Indies thanks to this relatively quiet period till it all kicks off on Feb 🙈
Re: Hacking Group Claims Big PS5 Hack Breakthrough Has Been Made
@shadow2k I too loved my Dreamcast. But I remember the day my mate downloaded hack disc then crazy taxi and then I kind of knew that was that. 😟
Re: Hacking Group Claims Big PS5 Hack Breakthrough Has Been Made
@Gamer_Girl_ The gratitude and sense of reciprocation is strong for this one. 🙈
Re: Hacking Group Claims Big PS5 Hack Breakthrough Has Been Made
@boogieman117 If the Dreamcast refused to boot from cdr's the whole crisis could have been averted. Going to all that trouble to use gdroms and then just boots from a CDR. 🤯
Re: Hacking Group Claims Big PS5 Hack Breakthrough Has Been Made
@boogieman117 Yes I was. The Dreamcast just straight up played copied discs. No IFS ands or buts.
Re: Hacking Group Claims Big PS5 Hack Breakthrough Has Been Made
It should be noted jailbroken switches and also completely emulated switches have not harmed hw or software sales for that platform. And the ps5 is not currently emulatable.
Re: Psychonauts 2 Treated to a PS5 Patch
That's good news. I complained on here regarding this very issue after buying the game. Good to see the options for PS4 games running on ps5 using more of the features, though I'm guessing rdna2 features are still off the table?
Re: UK Sales Charts: Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy Dances Into the Bestsellers
@uptownsoul If the digital sales of Xbox version close the gap, then the digital sales of the ps version will rewiden it again in all likelihood.
Re: PS Plus Subscribers Up Year-Over-Year, Nearing 50 Million
@danlk1ng Indeed and the amount off sales and money off from psplus like somebody said above is worth it in itself.
Re: PS5 Console Sales Reach 13.4 Million After Strong Q2 Period
@Rural-Bandit Your right, the industry is currently very successful.
Re: PS5 Console Sales Reach 13.4 Million After Strong Q2 Period
@Rural-Bandit You got my opinion on the subject. Nobodies telling you what you can and can't post. And nobodies telling me that I can't respond to your posts.
Re: PS5 Console Sales Reach 13.4 Million After Strong Q2 Period
@RayNick May I ask what country you live in?
Re: PS5 Console Sales Reach 13.4 Million After Strong Q2 Period
@JJ2 Yes but none of them are on shop shelves, ergo they are sold through.
Re: PS5 Console Sales Reach 13.4 Million After Strong Q2 Period
@Rural-Bandit You Do You bud. I don't know why your extolling your opinion on gamepass on a ps site celebrating a ps milestone, but whatever. Very happy ps owner here, and that's that.
Re: PS5 Console Sales Reach 13.4 Million After Strong Q2 Period
@RayNick Sorry, what is the only option?
Re: PS5 Console Sales Reach 13.4 Million After Strong Q2 Period
@Shepherd_Tallon Exactly. Playstation has powerful momentum. Some will jump to pc. Loads won't. And it will attract new players. I'm a console player, and I'll choose playstation until that is not an option.
Re: Rumour: Sackboy: A Big Adventure Is Making the Jump to PC
@zebric21 What charts are you referring to when you say ps5 games don't make the charts? Please be specific because from where I'm sitting Sony is doing a good job in terms of 1st and 3rd party software stats.
Re: Rumour: Sackboy: A Big Adventure Is Making the Jump to PC
@zebric21 What are these terrible attach rates you speak of?
Re: PS Now Annual Subs Half-Price in Select European Countries
@GoodGame 🙈😂. I'm sure the service will pay for itself over time with the amount of content on there.
Re: PS Now Annual Subs Half-Price in Select European Countries
@InvaderJim I'm sure psnow customers are exempt from having to have psplus to play psnow games online. I could be wrong though...
Re: Returnal Update 2.0 Finally Lets You Suspend Your Run
There is a level of tenseness and excitement that I may have missed had I used a save state. Part of the fun for me was the "Oh f**k NOOO!" after being whooped after an initially promising run. Hands sweating. Too far to retreat now.
Re: Returnal Update 2.0 Finally Lets You Suspend Your Run
@Carl-G I'm sure you could watch the end credits on YouTube for free 🙈
Re: Returnal Update 2.0 Finally Lets You Suspend Your Run
@OMG_Waffles One of the best ways of dealing with returnal is to keep on the move. This way most projectiles will miss you. I'm very surprised to hear you beat souls games plus nioh games and your finding returnal too difficult. It is difficult and dealing with those flying drones I think on biome 4 is a nightmare. The kamikaze ones. If you have the patience and ability to beat those games you'll have returnal in the bag if you have the will.
Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Is a Significantly Smaller Download on PS5
@StrickenBiged You don't need kraken to omit some duplicate files.
Re: PS4 Exclusive God of War Releasing on PC in January
@Zag_Man 😂😂😂. Yeah. In the meantime ps5 is the fastest selling ps ever. That's despite people seeing that ps exclusives would come to pc.
Re: Sony Threatens to Sue Company That Goaded It to Sue Over Black PS5 Replacement Plates
@SlySnake0407 Thats free marketing that is!
Re: PS5 PS Store Now Shows Latest Games in New Section
@get2sammyb All hands were on deck to make exclusives 🙈
Re: Colourful Co-Op Adventure It Takes Two Has Reached 3 Million Copies Sold
Not online, just local?
Re: UK Sales Charts: Far Cry 6, Alan Wake Remastered Arrive in Top 10, Selling Best on PS5
@JJ2 The big most recent patch for PS4 basically allowed discs to be played even if the system was not online and the battery had run out. That was about 3-4 weeks ago. Before that time PS4 was locked out of disk games if not online and battery was dead. Now it's not. So that's a very recent development and game sale ratios were still in ps favour before that DRM patch. I'm also not wanting to start a war.