Sackboy: A Big Adventure could be the next PlayStation exclusive to arrive on PC. References to the game's original codename — 'Project Marmalade' — have been found on Steam's database, and the title was also included in the infamous GeForce Now leak, which was picked apart earlier this year. However, these traces have apparently just been scrubbed on Steam's side, which raises even more questions.
So is it happening? Well, it certainly wouldn't come as a surprise, would it? By this point we all know that Sony is happy to port PlayStation exclusives to PC once the company believes that sales have hit a ceiling on console. God of War was confirmed for PC just last week, although part of the reasoning behind that is to grow the property's potential audience before God of War Ragnarok hits later in 2022. If Sackboy does end up on PC, we imagine that it'll be a Days Gone situation, where Sony's simply looking to maximise profits.
Would you be at all shocked to see Sackboy on PC? Pull some faces in the comments section below.
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Would be nice to see this one get a bigger audience, it kinda flew under the radar.
That would be nice!
Feel like this would be perfect for PC. After the PS3 games, the game seem to been ignored by many. And cmon. More people needs to love Sackboy!
In the end of ps5 lifecycle I think all sony 1st party games will be released on pc at the same time. So that means all of sony games will be made with hdd in mind since most pc players still have either hdd or slower sata ssd (compared to ps5).
It will be awkward (for both sony and microsoft) if in the future steam release a powerful tv only steam deck that can play both sony & xbox 1st party games lol.
Cool 🙂 I'll play it on my new PC next year. PS5 is probably my last console ever. Just need The Last of Us to make the same jump.
That would be great. More people should play this charming game.
I just don't get how this game was mostly ignored. In my mind this is exactly the kind of game that you buy a console for. The big shooters are best played on PCs to begin with. Games like this are why I jumped back from PC to console with PS3. Cookie cutter shooters like Farcry and Deathloop etc were a dime a dozen on PC, but gems like this were console or bust. What happened to the console market?
@NEStalgia Many moved onto more mature, story driven games.
Not even a year old huh...remember when the comments here said PC releases are okay if its "a few years" after it came to PS? Lol, Day1 PC releases are coming folks
So I guess the PS5 will end up being the equivalent of a proprietary less expensive gaming pc if the trend continue at this pace and games are getting released so close after ps5 launch…
I don’t really mind I wouldn’t have bought a PC, but I’m kind of sad is PS lose their identity as a console. To me console war was less about exclusive but more about pushing boundaries and having different vision… My fear is that when everything is more or less the same the push for innovation to differentiate yourself and innovate will be slower.
I can see returnal making its way to pc soon .
@IonMagi I always was annoyed about it but now i know i will never buy a gaming PC there is no option to buy anything physical on PC. You need a launcher so it is never really yours i need to put effort in it yeah as long as i have the option i will stay on a console.
Its funny how they pay more attention to PC than PS5 in recent times lol. 4 PC announcements in a short time while not a single PS5 only Game has a release Date and tons of First Party Games still arent at least patched for PS5
Who's in team: "will stick to my 500$ console cuz I don't wanna pay 2000$ for a powerful and long-lasting pc"
Either people are extremely rich or they are just looking for an excuse to complain (not saying sony porting games to pc is a good/bad thing, I don't care enough to fight for that)
@Flaming_Kaiser Yeah more I think about PC the more I think about how much of a hassle it really is.
Yet more evidence to show that the people who think "It's only a few exclusives, 2-3 years down the line" are being utterly delusional. Hell, GT7 and Horizon Forbidden West haven't even come out yet and were on the GeForce list, showing that they're already being primed for PC. Are we seriously still under the impression that Sony's not going to hit day-and-date at some point very soon?
Also, the frequency of these PC port announcements and rumors is truly getting remarkable at this point. In the span of a month we've had Uncharted 4 and God of War, now this, not to mention the GeForce leak. But what else should we expect now that PlayStation is no longer the apple of Jim Ryan's eye? He's after that PC and mobile money, and we the PS community just the inane sheep for him to charge out the ass.
@wiiware MS won't care, you still have to install Windows or subscribe to GPU on the Steamdecks to play Microsoft games, so either way you're buying their OS and platform, and that's the point of the Xbox hardware to begin with. Awkward for Sony though.
I thought from the start it was weird going with NVMe HDDs instead of SATA for both brands. We jumped from 5200RPM 2.5" laptop HDDs to the creme de la creme NVMe, arbitrarily for no reason, and skipped right past the obvious SATA SSD upgrades at extreme costs. Even SATA would have been a big jump for consoles, and still ahead of the majority of PCs.
@AdamNovice Yeah, but those games were always better on PC. Soulsborne, Sackboy, and GoW are the only big PS games I can think of that feel really console native these days. Even R&C is a PC shooter at its heart. And then there's Dreams that so desperately wants a mouse and keyboard.
@Flaming_Kaiser I was Atari, then Nintendo + Sega back in the day. Then I moved over to PC (though have a decent PS1 library I played the real discs on PS1 emulation, and had a PS2 for those JRPGS, and in hindsight, mostly JapanStudio exclusives.) Stayed with PC for a good decade, and it was a great, golden age of PC gaming back then. But I dropped PC after PS3 came out (then got X360 because 3rd party games ran so bad on PS3 and ended up liking XB unexpectedly as well), but I mostly got out of PC because of the expense and troubleshooting nightmares involved. Everyone tells me it's oh so much better these days, but I don't believe them. But I also got out of it because that's when Steam started taking over and replacing physical discs entirely. I used to be all physical on PC, though the DRM schemes were horrible back then. The infamous one, Starforce, would actually break your DVD drive. But after Steam started really taking hold, stores stopped selling discs, and eventually they just vanished, so I fled to console to stick with physical. Flash forward to today, and it feels like PC did in 2008. Though, I've somewhat ironically switched to digital. I have too many game boxes stacked up, and I'd rather keep the ones from decades ago I can't get again at sane prices, than the ones from today that can't even be played without day 1 DLC anyway.
@NEStalgia Hackers and out of control Toxicity on PC happened. Many PC gamers jumped to consoles because of how Toxic the gaming community in PC has become as well of the constant DDOS attacks and Hacking PC is suffering (this is in big part why having a free online gaming is not always a good thing because of this)
Love this game, excited it'll get a bigger audience! Deserves it, best 3D platformer in a while.
Dreams would be the cherry on top.
Cant wait to play sony games on Xbox through Geforce now on the web browser.
@lolwhatno kind of. I'm in team "sticking to my £500 console and also keeping my mid budget PC"
I've gradually upgraded my PC over the last year or so, to the point that now it's a completely different set of components/casing to what I started with, and I've probably spend about £700-£800 on the computer itself (it's not worth converting the currency to USD - in practice American prices seem to be numerically the same as UK prices, sometimes less despite the fact that currency conversion would lead you to believe otherwise). It's not the most powerful computer in the world, but it's competent right now. I can play the vast majority of even the newest games, even if occasionally I have to switch to "low" settings - but playing the very latest games isn't really what I use it for anyway, the big plus of having a PC is that there's a vast back catalogue, and backwards compatibility is nowhere near as much of an issue as it is on consoles (I mean, it's not a non-issue. Games built for windows XP won't always run flawlessly on windows 10, but there are often ways to get them to work)
A prime example is that I have most of the Assassin's Creed games on PC - everything from the first Assassin's Creed up to Syndicate (Origins and Oddysey I have on PS4) - you can't really have that on PS4, I mean you can own the Ezio collection and AC3 remastered but IMO it's not quite as satisfying as seeing each individual game sat there in the library, and besides that if you owned the games on PS3 it's a bit of a pain having to buy a remastered version in order to be able to play the game again (assuming you don't have the PS3 any more - I used to have one but it died of YLOD a while ago now )
I also have the whole Legacy of Kain series on PC as that released on GOG a little while ago, if I wanted to play those on a Sony platform I'd have to replace my PS2, which died something like 11 years ago
But yeah - I'm aware you're not really PC bashing so hope this doesn't come across as too defensive, just pointing out that you can game on PC without chasing after the highest specs all the time (and with the current prices of graphics cards it's not really worth chasing after that)
I guess the terrible attach rates of ps5 software really accelerated PC ports..I will never pay premium again or buy day one any exclusive..I will explore all my options and choose the cheapest way long-term.
My how that wait gap for PC releases is shrinking right before our eyes 😋 For those of you at home Sackboy released 11 months ago so yeah expect same day releases with PC by 2023 at the latest.. good or bad it is what it is 🤷
Who wants to buy my PS5? 😅
Right series, wrong game. Little big planet (and by extension Dreams) would fly on PC from the curation/creation perspective.
Good game tho and deserves a wider audience
@AFCC by that logic you don't need a series S/X either
@NEStalgia in fairness, with regards the jump to NVME style SSDs this generation does make sense, if for no other reason than NVME SSDs are much more mainstream than they were when the PS4 released. If you were shopping for a laptop in 2014, chances were it would have had an HDD unless you're shopping for a laptop waaay more expensive than your average console.
If you're shopping for a laptop in 2020/2021 there's a very good chance that it'll have an NVME SSD, even if you're shopping in the £500 range. SATA SSDs are great and all (compared to HDDs) but I'm not aware that they've ever really been a standard in this kind of price bracket.
Interestingly, when my wife's laptop stopped working (bought 2016 or so?) and I took the hard drive out I was surprised to discover that it was a hybrid SSHD. Partly because it really didn't perform any better than a normal hard drive (because for the most part it still is one), but also because I don't remember that being specified in the specs when we bought it
@Arkantos2990 That actually makes a lot of sense! It also probably explains why the console community has gradually become more toxic in general, as well
"PC Master Race" was always a toxic community, but I always felt that it got a lot more toxic in the time after I got out (early PS3 era.) Back in the 90's it was mostly a bunch of nerds and GENERALLY nerds were helpful nerds back then. At least if you avoided EFNET....
I absolutely loved this game. The soundtrack is one of the best as well. Just super fun all around.
@danlk1ng Saw your reply and was scared at first lol, I braced myself for a long rant about how I am a fake "fan" (little do they know I'm an AC).
Back to your comment, yeah PC has an extremely high advantage for old games, just look at freaking dolphin emulator (tried to use it but my pc has intel potato I mean celeron ran a gamecube game at 10fps, still had fun). Also indie game are always more present on pc. If I had the funds personally to build a decent gaming pc (rtx 1070 or something around) I would keep my console and pc if possible, pc for indies and console for all AAA/third parties. If I can't I'm sticking to console tho.
P.s: Thanks for the interesting point of view, I appreciate you.
Edit: More props to you for being extremely civil, I just realized that you weren't being a whiny sh** like some people in this thread.
@danlk1ng Yeah, but laptops are using NVMe purely for space and cooling reasons, and typically the NVMe onboard is the low grade kind that isn't actually that much faster than a spinner, especially for writes, unless you get into high-end laptops again. I assume (hope?) the consoles are using the high end SLC/MLC based ones to endure the massive read-write volume a console will put on them. Otherwise we'll all be re-buying our PS5's every other year. First console to sell 300M! With that, the SATA ones are much cheaper. Especially in bulk purchase for OEM production.
@UltimateOtaku91 You don't, but MS tells you that up front. You can buy their prebuilt subsidized PC, or build your own. I mean pushing PC is kind of their whole marketing platform for Xbox since day 1. The OS is their #1 product.
@NEStalgia If all sony games will be ported to pc (with slow hdd or sata ssd) I think it's a waste to equip ps5 with nvme 4.0 ssd, it only make it expensive for ps5 users to upgrade their ssd.
That's great, more people to play but they really need a pc version of Dreams (and LBP3) because that would help those games so much and it would improve our experience, too. But yea that's good for this game, if true.
Any PC players out there that bite on these tactics from Sony to lure you to buy a PS5 are idiots. The games sequels their luring you to buy a PS5 will be on PC soon afterwards. Anyone with common sense should not be fooled by this.
What sucks about this is that Sony are aren't even open about what's being ported until after it is ported. People can't even decide to stick to PS or go for PC (which is in all honesty part of their plan to milk people as much as possible). It really sucks seeing Sony like this, but i guess going to America also meant adopting greedy corporate practises like this.
You make zero sense. That theory is bogus and purely emotional. If Sony will put sequels on PC then they aren't baiting PC gamers to buy a PS5... That would only work if they didn't port the sequels. If PC users can't be patient enough to wait for Forbidden West or GoW2 to come to PC and buy a PS5 out of FOMO, that's their fault.
@IonMagi What? They just had a Ps5 event where they showed multiple Ps4/Ps5 only games and one game going to PC/Ps5, then the GoW PC announcement. How is that showing more attention to PC? Some of you just complain to complain. Why does it matter if a game comes to PC? If you're not on PC now then chances are some Sony games coming to PC isn't going to change that considering the cost of PC components, no physical media, ease of use, etc. I only PC game because I will gladly pay the premium and I work with computers, but to those of you who just want a cheap game console the benefits probably aren't worth it.
Are Microsoft's games all of a sudden worse because they're day 1 PC releases? Absolutely not. It's like you just want to feel special about being the only one who has access to something.
It's a good game but somehow it feels to be lacking something?
We need a remaster of LBP 1 & 2 - they've been languishing on the PS3 for far too long and now their online options have been killed off, it'd be a perfect time.
Perhaps Media Molecule could finally do something useful again rather than another thing in Dreams that no-one will play?
My only concern is that It will get a good discount in pc before it does in ps5
PD: I mean a digital copy, ofc
@mucc Like I said : not a single PS5 only Game with an actual Release Game is known, Spiderman and Wolferine were the only PS5 Games shown and they dont come out until 2023 and 2024. So no actual next Gen Games for the next two years or so lol. If they can port so many Games to PC they can also enhance some of their PS4 only Games that run like ***** on PS5 or dont even play well at all because of problems with the Backwards Compatibility. But they cant squeeze money out of Players with that so its not happening lol
I’m ok with this.
I’m not getting back into PC gaming anytime soon. I love my PS5. I’m fine with PS studios games coming day one to PC in the future. I’ll still play them on PlayStation.
@IonMagi Why does it matter if it's Ps5 only? GT7, GoW2, Horizon, and possibly more are all coming next year. Not to mention big 3rd party Ps5 only games like FF16, Forspoken, Ghostwire, etc. What Ps4 games have problems with BC on Ps5?
@mucc I wouldnt be suprised of FFXVI is cross Gen too tbh. And it matters since Sony was always big on getting everything out of a Console and now they are suddenly happy with releasing PS5 Games that are basically PS4 Pro Games just with some sharper textures and 60 FPS. A few first Party Games having problems on PS5: Ape Escape 2, Entwined, all MLBs before 2020, Until Dawn VR, OKAGE: Shadow King (basically unplayable bc it has massive Graphic glitches). MS patched almost all their First Party Games for XSX so they run at least at 60 FPS while Sony ignored basically every Games that wasnt a 10+ Million Seller
This is actually a very good game, just simple fun. Nothing too taxing on the brain, mind you.. some course can be very challenging.
I think people truly forget how expensive it is to get into PC gaming , especially in 2021 . The days of making budget pcs that could match or surpass consoles are truly gone and to game on a pc is now a very expensive hobby that could cost you 1500-2000 euros.
The PS5 and Series X can match the performance of a GTX2070 for 500 euros . There is no way anyone could build a pc to match this performance and keep it under 500 euros .
There is alot of value in the console market for a long long time .
At the end of the day Game development has gotten so expensive to make these big AAA games that Sony and MS need to recoup extra money elsewhere to keep paying their employees and even make more games .
The games are what matters most than the plastic box you play on .
@lolwhatno Additionally there are many people, myself included, who simply prefer to game on a console. It's not just about cost.
I can afford a top end PC, and I accept that there are some advantages on PC, but it's not the holy grail either. When it comes down to it I simply prefer the convenience of a console.
On PS5 or XSX I sit on my couch and press one button. Within 10 seconds I am booted straight back into the last game I was playing. Through HDMI-CEC that one button press turned on my controller, console, the TV, soundsystem and i'm ready to go in less than 10 seconds. It's brilliant. How long does it take to boot windows, wait for other startup processes to run, open Steam, open the game, skip opening credits, load game etc. a hell of a lot more than 10 seconds. It used to be you gained this back in load times. That's no longer a major concern.
And that's just ONE aspect. There aren't endless driver updates and settings to configure, this has all be done for me. I don't need anti-virus and cheating online isn't as prevalent. While you can attach a PC to a TV it's not optimally designed for it and I prefer my couch to my office chair!
Don't misunderstand me, there are many benefits to PC, but ultimately it comes down to preference. Some things are better than console, some are worse. I have a mid-range PC but personally i'd take my console over it every day. That won't be the same for everyone but it will for many.
Well...that's not years...
@IonMagi true. Only two new Ps5 exclusives announced this year both years away and almost 4 pc ports in the space of two months. Embarassing and disappointing I bought a Ps5 primarily for the Ps5 only games not for pc ports/ to hear games going to pc and cross gen
@zebric21 What are these terrible attach rates you speak of?
@KayOL77 ps5 software rarely makes the charts...it seems that people are ok clearing their backlog or enjoy their ps+ collection like me and don't pay 80euros for first party titles so often.
@zebric21 That is just factually incorrect. They had spots 6, 8, and 9 in the NPD last month. Not to mention the vast majority of 3rd party multiplatform sales are Ps4/Ps5. The second biggest selling game of the year so far RE Village has sold 49% of all copies on Ps5.
Seems so odd porting so many games, so close to the start of a generation that they appear to be doing very well in.
Microsoft don't care if you play on pc or xbox, you've still got to deal with them either way, but I just don't see the benefit to Sony doing the same.
The strategy to chase the PC market is so short-sighted when it ultimately comes at the cost of your own platform and customers. It works for Microsoft because Windows is their own platform where they can shove Game Pass subscriptions down everybody's throats to recoup lost game sales on other storefronts, notably Steam. Sony doesn't have that luxury, they depend heavily on console owners to buy games and subscribe to PS+ on their platform. Them flirting with PC gamers rightly annoys longtime PlayStation gamers because it feels like PC players are getting the royal treatment with lower priced games, scalable graphics that far surpass the PS5's limits and no paywalls to play online.
Microsoft will reap the most from Sony's PC ports because it allows them to retain PC gamers on their Windows ecosystem much to Sony's chagrin who probably foolishly think they can convert them into buying PS consoles. This is only reinforced with the potential quick turnaround of ports like this game, which is barely coming to a year old.
These ports are actually having the opposite effect of what Sony probably intended, it's making people abandon PlayStation and go all in on PC gaming, where they'll not only receive every Xbox game but now even PlayStation games and playable at higher settings than what PS5s can offer.
@truerbluer I've been having the same thoughts, honeslty. I find it harder and harder to invest on anything PS because i feel like i should just invest on a PC library again. Most of my friends have given up on consoles too, and we're from a country where PC parts are really expensive. Even then, it seems to be a much better investment, since we get to play the games much better, with mod support, with far greater deals than the PS Store (or heck, even for free if we feel like it), without paying subscriptions, and the only thing we have to do is maybe wait for a year, which in all honesty means nothing, since pre-orders and Day-1 support is ridiculous and has been ridiculous for years.
@wiiware Valve can't even get the handheld steam deck in actual competing price range with the Switch. It $200 more than a switch lite, $100 more than a Switch and $50 more than the OLED. That just for the terrible base model... if you want a decent steam deck you're looking at $530-600 basically the price of the next gen console.
If Valve made a tv only steam deck. It'll will definitely be way out of the majority of console gamers price range, so Sony and Microsoft had nothing to worry about.
To be honest I no longer feel excited about getting a ps5, partly because any upcoming games that I am interested in is also coming to ps4 like God of was and the horizon. But also since they started putting focus on pc. I haven't had a xbox since the 360 so I'm considering a series x for my next console. And then maybe get a ps5 In a few years when the big exclusives arrive.
Happy to see PC gamers get to experience Sackboy!
(assuming this is true)
@truerbluer This! Next console Nintendo (already have the switch) and PC
Switched to PC last year and I'm not looking back. I hope the Gravity Rush games get ported at some point as well.
Yeah I think the PS5 is going to be my last console (except maybe nintendo). If it weren't for the nickel and dimeing Sony has been doing I'd be more satisfied considering the price for performance of console but I just don't like the direction they're going. It's disappointing.
I'd rather they Sack...Jim Ryan Why not just bring every PlayStation Exclusive to PC now SONY and watch PlayStation console sales free fall like they have done with the Xbox console sales :-/
@zebric21 What charts are you referring to when you say ps5 games don't make the charts? Please be specific because from where I'm sitting Sony is doing a good job in terms of 1st and 3rd party software stats.
Not sure how I feel about it. PC games are often cheaper than console ones, at least in Brazil; Sony didn't even cut the price on this one. Happy for those who'll play it though, great game to play with kids!
I didn't finish it, felt too slow to me, specially the transitions between levels, but I did enjoy what I played.
@Trajan 64GB eMMC (PCIe Gen 2) vs 256GB (PCIe Gen 3) is a massive difference especially if you even want to think about using the Steam Deck as a AAA machine.
@themightyant That's also true, I guess it also depends on how much time of your life you allot to gaming.
@Trajan What!?!? Even if we don't take in consideration load times... etc. Literally one off the games they tested, Jedi Fallen Order, takes up basically almost the entire internal storage of the 64GB by it self... Good luck trying to put CoD on that.
This isn't like the Switch where it'll get it own downsized ports to fit the hardware, or have physical cartridges to bypass the storage limitations. Unless you're gonna play indies non stop. You'll be buying a decent sized micro SD day 1.
Also this is PC not PS5... So game sizes aren't getting smaller.
@Floki Steam deck is more powerful than the switch though, it's like portable ps4 and can play games like remedy control natively rather than using cloud version like switch. Plus don't forget the fast ssd on the $500 version, and games on steam is usually cheaper.
@wiiware Yes. And that power will never help it sell 90 million+ units like the Switch. The system is completely out of price range for most consumers.
Valve could never release a box that can compete with Sony and Microsoft in the price range that the Series X and PS5 offers.
@Floki I don't think steam deck can sells 90M+ like switch, but if the device is good I think it will sells okay.
@mucc still dominated by switch software sales..and that wasn't happening in the ps4 era..i guess the pandemic changed all plans for ps5 with cross-gen and pc ports..it's easy to spot the panic sony had.
Some of you are far too emotional about this crap. Like, does this stop you from playing the game at all?! NOPE! You’ve just basically lost your bragging rights about exclusivity. Why not just get rid of your PS5 and get a PC? Some of these comments are the same from the same people so just make the move already! PS5 release is still high so just do it!
@Carl-G hasn’t every Xbox console sold better than its predecessor? Isn’t the series X well ahead of the 1X at this point? I’m sure putting games to PC does hurt sale of the console but to call it a “freefall“ is a bit of an exaggeration.
@zebric21 Switch has been the best selling console in the world the last 3 years and its software has been topping the charts ever since it came out. This Sony panic thing you're saying makes absolutely no sense. Playstation is literally having its best year ever revenue/profit wise.
@mucc however ps5 is selling slightly worse than ps4 and maybe there are countermeasures in place.
@zebric21 Dude nothing you're saying is in any way factual lol. Ps5 is OUTSELLING Ps4 so far and that's with massive stock shortages. https://asumetech.com/ps5-beats-ps4-to-key-sales-milestone-despite-stock-shortages/
@mucc LOL yeah, I was also confused by @zebric21 making that comment.
@mucc too bad your data is a bit outdated..
ps5 is 400.000 units behind ps4..still great with the chip shortage but...
@zebric21 That's shipped not sold, apparently the sold number is around 100k less. Either way my point still stands.
@NEStalgia Ill keep buying physical as long as i can i keep away from physical releases that wont work without a massive patch so no Ubisoft thats for sure. Also liveservice games is a waste of time to buy physical because they wont work in the future from the disc. I also believe they should stop releasing sportsgames its a waste of plastic. It such a painfull thing to see them rot away the year later.
Great game. Fefinetely deserves more love
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