@FatalBubbles Well, certain sales have themes. Like around October there's Halloween sales or something spooky. I think based on these kind of sales, Sony can refuse certain games to participate. But as far as I know that just exceptions. Usually, every publisher can provide a list of games they want to be price reduced and Sony will let them know when this sale go live to let them publishers can promote it on social media to let potential buyers know.
@FatalBubbles I'm obviously referring to the Playstation Store, as it's the topic that the OP was whining about.
You're referring to something totally different though. I remember that story. It was about that some devs couldn't reach Sony to put their games on certain sales. So their games wasn't on sale even though the devs/publishers planned to participate in those sales to boost sale numbers.
Sony can't dictate price points from other publishers games. Just as Valve can't do that, Microsoft or Nintendo neither. They are just running store fronts. The prices have always been given by the publishers.
@Nepp67 Nonsense. Sony doesn't make the prices from other publishers. The publishers of each respective game decide the price points when and if they put em on sale.
Naughty Dogs peak really was on the PS3. They were able to create 2 new amazing IP in one generation. Now they keep Last of Us stuff. Make Naughty Dog Great Again
I really hoped for it to be like Monster Hunter. A handful of friends playing together, coordinating and teamwork against machines. That'd be hugh. Especially, also in the Asian territories. Where Sony seem to struggle to sell their first party games. Hope it's more than just two players.
@Splat Remember the Internet is not a real place. Doesn't matter how many people on Internet trashed on Cod annually. Millions of people who are not participating on the internet with gaming related stuff bought it. Hence CoD has sold 15-25 million copies every single year.
FFXVI still going strong. Love to see it. And what about them legs of Kratos. God of War Ragnarok is super strong. Star Wars Jedi Survivor also is still up there is so nice. This year is amazing
The FF Pixel Remasters were topnotch. Even though I only played the first 3. I really enjoyed them. With FFXVI being an easy GotY contender and Live A Live was topping its original by a mile, it's safe to say Square Enix might be getting back in shape. Minus the Forspoken one. We just ignore that.
Who cares. Vast majority will stay on Twitter. Elon is king. He has improved Twitter like nobody could have done. Haters gonna hate just as potato gonna potate.
@middyone Yes, Multi Billion Dollar companies always know better. It's not like people told that Billion Dollar company that those expensive memory cards is a stupid idea and will be the reason why the Vita will flop. It's not like people told that billion dollar company that Cell Processor are really hard to develop for and they shouldn't put em inside a console. It's not like people told that billion dollar company that Cell Processor are NOT the future and you'll have problems to play those games on subsequent consoles. It's not like people told that billion dollar company that glueing that ID and the PS Name together into database would result into issues changing PS names in the long run. It's not like people told that billion dollar company that transparency when DDoS occurs is highest priority. Remember 2011? It's not like people told that billion dollar company launching a 700 dollar console is DoA. Bottom line: Billion dollar companies make mistakes all the time. And GG being mismanaged is one of em. Now hush you coparate slave.
@LordBakemono What points were given? A bIgGeR mAp? NeW aNiMaTiOnS? UnDeR wAtEr? Ridiculous to claim that those points caused an almost 500% increase on costs. Get the ***** off!!! GG is mismanaged.
@AdamNovice All I read was mismanaged. Every point you made, did not remotely explained how the costs went from 45 million to 220 million. Because of little bit more map, a few animations and nicer graphics it drove the costs up to almost 500%. Guerrila Games is mismanaged. Even The Last of Us Part 2 is questionable. Hows the saying: give an artist enough rope and he will hang himself. These people completely lost their minds.
How did Horizon Zero Dawn cost 45 million dollars and Forbidden West 220 million? Sounds completely mismanaged. They are barely differences between them.
60.000 * 29,99 = around 1.800.000 bucks. Minus the 30% going to Sony/Steam = 1.260.000 bucks remains. I wonder what the expectation was. I mean 1.2 million dollars should easily cover the costs of such artsy fartsy type of video games, I assume.
Well, then Microsoft made the better deal. I never understood why Sony would spend millions of dollars to get a game for one year instead of getting the entire IP for a few millions more to own future installments.
@Korgon I didn't mean Naughty Dog is the one being useless but just generally spoken about some Playstation studios being useless. And I loved The Last of Us Pt. 2. I think it's a masterpiece. All I'm saying is Naughty Dog isn't the same from the PS3 era when they blessed the Playstation Nation with 4 defining video games. The flapship has been exchanged.
Naughty Dog hasn't been the flagship Playstation studio since 2018 anyways. Insomniac Games is the one that defines Playstation now. These guys create worlds, characters, dialogs, gameplays, music and much more that Playstation players resonate with.
I really wish, Sony shut down some more useless studios and redirect these resources to Insomniac Games to grow them even bigger and have even a more frequent output than they already have.
They better have something ready. And it better be better than that Days Gone trashness. These guys take forever to put one single game out and then it is not even decent of quality. Kind of crazy Sony hasn't shut them down yet.
Well, what was their previous strategy? Releasing whatever? Can they just flip a switch to make that happen or do they have an actual plan? Like a higher quality control. Listen and adopt to more fan feedback.
I sincerely enjoyed their remakes (Live a Live and FF7) If they use the same methods onto their other projects, I don't see a reason why they can't.
I completed Live A Live and now I wanted to purchase Star Wars Jedi Survivors. So it's good timing. Let me know if the patch actually makes the game playable.
@Bamila they do that already but it always takes a week longer. Then they release the combined numbers. And they are usually pretty similiar than these ones.
If anyone deserves to have such a high amount of devs, it is Insomniac Games. These guys have put of more games than Naughty Dog, Santa Monica and Guerrila Games combined.
That was the only game I was sincerely rooting to get ported onto PC. We PS players aren't as creative or dedicated to make games. But them PC players, in their basements, hiding from sunshine and fresh air, would definitely push this game, which is essentially a very consumer friendly engine, to its absolute and create amazing experiences. What a bummer.
@Tharsman Apparently PC gaming isnt as big as you might think outside of China. If a game doesnt appeal to China, like most console games, it wont find big success. Just take a look at PubG, CS and all these topdown games. They are the typical PC games and theyre all appeal to the Chinese market. Especially in Europe and NA - console is king.
I'd be interested. It'd be horrible to have another hardware Sony needs to create games for that could be directed to their main hardware, the PS5. Having a streaming device on the go is nice.
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Re: PS5 Sales Spike a Staggering 116% in Europe
Playstation 5 is unstoppable. It'll outsell Xbox 4 to 1, if it continues like that.
I really need an update for upcoming Playstation 5 games though. What's after Spider-Man 2 from Sony first party?
Re: PS Store Summer Sale Live Now, Get All the Best PS5, PS4 Deals Here
@FatalBubbles Well, certain sales have themes. Like around October there's Halloween sales or something spooky. I think based on these kind of sales, Sony can refuse certain games to participate. But as far as I know that just exceptions. Usually, every publisher can provide a list of games they want to be price reduced and Sony will let them know when this sale go live to let them publishers can promote it on social media to let potential buyers know.
Re: PS Store Summer Sale Live Now, Get All the Best PS5, PS4 Deals Here
@FatalBubbles I'm obviously referring to the Playstation Store, as it's the topic that the OP was whining about.
You're referring to something totally different though. I remember that story. It was about that some devs couldn't reach Sony to put their games on certain sales. So their games wasn't on sale even though the devs/publishers planned to participate in those sales to boost sale numbers.
Sony can't dictate price points from other publishers games. Just as Valve can't do that, Microsoft or Nintendo neither.
They are just running store fronts. The prices have always been given by the publishers.
Re: PS Store Summer Sale Live Now, Get All the Best PS5, PS4 Deals Here
@Nepp67 Nonsense. Sony doesn't make the prices from other publishers. The publishers of each respective game decide the price points when and if they put em on sale.
Re: PS Store Summer Sale Live Now, Get All the Best PS5, PS4 Deals Here
@KAIRU Do it. It's a superb game.
Re: Sony and Microsoft Sign a 'Binding Agreement' to Keep Call of Duty on PlayStation
Is it finally over? Can Sony announce something now? We still don't know what's after Spider-Man 2.
Re: The Last of Us Composer Gustavo Santaolalla May Have Teased a New Version of Part 2
Naughty Dogs peak really was on the PS3. They were able to create 2 new amazing IP in one generation. Now they keep Last of Us stuff.
Make Naughty Dog Great Again
Re: Guerrilla's PS5, PS4 Horizon Multiplayer Game Is a Massive Shift for Studio
I really hoped for it to be like Monster Hunter. A handful of friends playing together, coordinating and teamwork against machines. That'd be hugh. Especially, also in the Asian territories. Where Sony seem to struggle to sell their first party games. Hope it's more than just two players.
Re: Naughty Dog Co-President Evan Wells Announces His Retirement
Would be nice to have Naughty Dog news in more positive manner. Well, Neil now rules on his own.
Re: Microsoft Beats US Regulator FTC in Activision Blizzard Buyout Battle
@Splat Remember the Internet is not a real place. Doesn't matter how many people on Internet trashed on Cod annually. Millions of people who are not participating on the internet with gaming related stuff bought it. Hence CoD has sold 15-25 million copies every single year.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Fends Off Final Fantasy 16
FFXVI still going strong. Love to see it.
And what about them legs of Kratos. God of War Ragnarok is super strong. Star Wars Jedi Survivor also is still up there is so nice.
This year is amazing
Re: Asobo Studio Fuels Hope for Verminous Sequel as The Plague Team Bulks Up
Let's hope it is true. And let's hope Microsoft won't aquire them and make it exclusive to its platform.
Re: Square Enix Plotting More Retro Revivals After Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Success
The FF Pixel Remasters were topnotch. Even though I only played the first 3. I really enjoyed them.
With FFXVI being an easy GotY contender and Live A Live was topping its original by a mile, it's safe to say Square Enix might be getting back in shape.
Minus the Forspoken one. We just ignore that.
Re: PlayStation and Other Gaming Titans Flock to Twitter Rival Threads
Who cares. Vast majority will stay on Twitter.
Elon is king. He has improved Twitter like nobody could have done. Haters gonna hate just as potato gonna potate.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Cost $220 Million to Make, Horizon Forbidden West Cost $212 Million
@middyone Yes, Multi Billion Dollar companies always know better.
It's not like people told that Billion Dollar company that those expensive memory cards is a stupid idea and will be the reason why the Vita will flop.
It's not like people told that billion dollar company that Cell Processor are really hard to develop for and they shouldn't put em inside a console.
It's not like people told that billion dollar company that Cell Processor are NOT the future and you'll have problems to play those games on subsequent consoles.
It's not like people told that billion dollar company that glueing that ID and the PS Name together into database would result into issues changing PS names in the long run.
It's not like people told that billion dollar company that transparency when DDoS occurs is highest priority. Remember 2011?
It's not like people told that billion dollar company launching a 700 dollar console is DoA.
Bottom line: Billion dollar companies make mistakes all the time. And GG being mismanaged is one of em. Now hush you coparate slave.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Cost $220 Million to Make, Horizon Forbidden West Cost $212 Million
@LordBakemono What points were given? A bIgGeR mAp? NeW aNiMaTiOnS? UnDeR wAtEr? Ridiculous to claim that those points caused an almost 500% increase on costs. Get the ***** off!!!
GG is mismanaged.
Re: Gory Horror Game Scorn Announced for PS5, Out This Year
That time exclusives. Something Xbox would never do...
Re: Microsoft Planned to Conquer Japan with Square Enix Buyout, Eye-Opening Documents Reveal
Microsoft really being Draco Malfoy trying to outdo Harry by buying Nimbus 2001 for everybody to get into the team.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Cost $220 Million to Make, Horizon Forbidden West Cost $212 Million
@AdamNovice You didnt provide any point for an explaination of an almost 500% increase in costs. GG is mismanaged.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Cost $220 Million to Make, Horizon Forbidden West Cost $212 Million
@get2sammyb You wrote the article actually. https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2017/03/horizon_zero_dawn_cost_a_reported_e45_million_to_make
Re: The Last of Us 2 Cost $220 Million to Make, Horizon Forbidden West Cost $212 Million
@AdamNovice All I read was mismanaged. Every point you made, did not remotely explained how the costs went from 45 million to 220 million. Because of little bit more map, a few animations and nicer graphics it drove the costs up to almost 500%. Guerrila Games is mismanaged. Even The Last of Us Part 2 is questionable.
Hows the saying: give an artist enough rope and he will hang himself.
These people completely lost their minds.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Cost $220 Million to Make, Horizon Forbidden West Cost $212 Million
How did Horizon Zero Dawn cost 45 million dollars and Forbidden West 220 million?
Sounds completely mismanaged. They are barely differences between them.
Re: PS5 Exclusive Final Fantasy 16 Hits a Slightly Skewed 3 Million Sales at Launch
That's amazing. I love FFXVI. Might end up being my favorite FF ever.
All them alarmist can suck a toe now 😂😂😂
Re: Over Half of Season Dev Scavengers Studio Laid Off
60.000 * 29,99 = around 1.800.000 bucks. Minus the 30% going to Sony/Steam
= 1.260.000 bucks remains.
I wonder what the expectation was.
I mean 1.2 million dollars should easily cover the costs of such artsy fartsy type of video games, I assume.
Re: UK Sales Charts: PS5 Exclusive Final Fantasy 16 Debuts at Number One
My GotY right there at the top. And God of War Ragnarok still in the top ten is crazy. And also Hogwarts Legacy still strong.
This year is amazing.
Re: Xbox Insinuates It Bought Bethesda to Block Starfield PS5 Console Exclusivity
Well, then Microsoft made the better deal. I never understood why Sony would spend millions of dollars to get a game for one year instead of getting the entire IP for a few millions more to own future installments.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Final Fantasy 16?
On my PS friends list, everybody seem to be on it. I love that hype.
Re: Sony Eager to Ensure PS Plus Remains Relevant and Offers More Value
Might not be linked to PS Plus but I want Picture in Picture functionality. Hell, I'd Upgrade to Extra or Premium to have that feature.
Re: Hot Off Demo Hype, Lies of P Gets Impressive 9 Minute Gameplay Showcase
I have played the demo and enjoyed what I played.
One question though, can you transfer the save data from demo onto the game?
Re: Rumour: Naughty Dog's Troubled The Last of Us Multiplayer PS5 Project Was Sniped by Bungie
@Korgon I didn't mean Naughty Dog is the one being useless but just generally spoken about some Playstation studios being useless.
And I loved The Last of Us Pt. 2. I think it's a masterpiece.
All I'm saying is Naughty Dog isn't the same from the PS3 era when they blessed the Playstation Nation with 4 defining video games.
The flapship has been exchanged.
Re: Rumour: Naughty Dog's Troubled The Last of Us Multiplayer PS5 Project Was Sniped by Bungie
Naughty Dog hasn't been the flagship Playstation studio since 2018 anyways.
Insomniac Games is the one that defines Playstation now.
These guys create worlds, characters, dialogs, gameplays, music and much more that Playstation players resonate with.
I really wish, Sony shut down some more useless studios and redirect these resources to Insomniac Games to grow them even bigger and have even a more frequent output than they already have.
Re: Poll: Was This Sony's Best PlayStation Showcase Yet?
This is by far, Sonys very worst Showcase.
After almost 2 years of radio silence, we got this? Absymal.
Where is Naughty Dog, Bluepoint, Sucker Punch and all the other ones that define the Playstation console?
Waste of time.
Re: Days Gone Dev Can't Wait to Show You Its First PS5 Exclusive
They better have something ready.
And it better be better than that Days Gone trashness.
These guys take forever to put one single game out and then it is not even decent of quality.
Kind of crazy Sony hasn't shut them down yet.
Re: Square Enix Wants to Release More Higher Quality Games, Starting with Final Fantasy 16
Well, what was their previous strategy?
Releasing whatever?
Can they just flip a switch to make that happen or do they have an actual plan?
Like a higher quality control.
Listen and adopt to more fan feedback.
I sincerely enjoyed their remakes (Live a Live and FF7)
If they use the same methods onto their other projects, I don't see a reason why they can't.
Re: Mortal Kombat 12 Teaser Trailer Hints at Series Reboot for PS5
It's crazy, it feels like the world is awaiting for THAT Playstation Showcase.
It got to be atomically bombastic.
Cmon Sony give us something!
Re: A Plague Tale: Requiem Treated to 60fps Mode in New PS5 Patch
I knew this would be coming. The PS5 and Series X are powerful enough for games running 60 frames with high fidelity.
I'm glad it'll be here soon.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Has Become One of PS5's Best-Selling Games
Geez. That's big as a Tallneck.
Re: Next Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Patch Is Out Today, Focuses on Bug Fixes
I completed Live A Live and now I wanted to purchase Star Wars Jedi Survivors. So it's good timing.
Let me know if the patch actually makes the game playable.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: The Last of Us 2 Rides High on HBO Series Success
Live A Live didn't chart and neither did FF Pixel Collection.
You guys disgust me.
I've been playing Live A Live since its release and I am at the final chapter.
That game is outstanding.
For all JRPG fan, that is a must-play and must-own.
Re: UK Sales Charts: PS5 Makes Up 82% of Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Physical Sales
@Bamila they do that already but it always takes a week longer. Then they release the combined numbers. And they are usually pretty similiar than these ones.
Re: One of PS5, PS4's Best Exclusive Devs Has Grown to Over 500 Staff
If anyone deserves to have such a high amount of devs, it is Insomniac Games. These guys have put of more games than Naughty Dog, Santa Monica and Guerrila Games combined.
Re: One of PS5, PS4's Best Exclusive Devs Has Grown to Over 500 Staff
@Sil_Am I don't think Ratchet and Clank has the budget like Spider Man or God of War so the money it has make is much smaller.
Re: One of PS5, PS4's Best Exclusive Devs Has Grown to Over 500 Staff
@Anti-Matter Yes! Please. I need another Ratchet and Clank. Rift Apart was amazing.
Re: Media Molecule Co-Founder Exits Following Dreams' Live Support Stoppage
I think they should start working on Dreams 2: The Nightmare Edition.
Re: Reaction: Dreams Losing Support Is a Sad End to PS4's Most Unbelievable Project
That was the only game I was sincerely rooting to get ported onto PC. We PS players aren't as creative or dedicated to make games. But them PC players, in their basements, hiding from sunshine and fresh air, would definitely push this game, which is essentially a very consumer friendly engine, to its absolute and create amazing experiences. What a bummer.
Re: Resident Evil 4's PS5, PS4 Sales in the UK Leave Xbox to the Los Ganados
@Tharsman Apparently PC gaming isnt as big as you might think outside of China. If a game doesnt appeal to China, like most console games, it wont find big success. Just take a look at PubG, CS and all these topdown games. They are the typical PC games and theyre all appeal to the Chinese market.
Especially in Europe and NA - console is king.
Re: Almost Every Mainline Final Fantasy Game Will Soon Be Playable on Current PlayStation Consoles
I'm so hyped about them remastered ones coming to Playstation. I've never played any of em. Having the opportunity to catch up is awesome.
Re: Resident Evil 4 Fans Aren't Exactly Thrilled with Microtransactions on PS5, PS4
I'm glad that the community is upset about it. All publishers should be given the same standards. Capcom is no exception.
Re: Rumour: PS Vita 2 Dreams Killed But Sony Might Have a 'Cloud-Streaming Handheld' in the Works
I'd be interested. It'd be horrible to have another hardware Sony needs to create games for that could be directed to their main hardware, the PS5. Having a streaming device on the go is nice.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Gotham Knights Leaps from the Shadows Back into the Top 10
God of War still in the top ten is such a delight.