The problem isn’t inherently with the sequels, the problem is in the over abundance of them without investment into new ip/experiences and a greater variety of genres. Not saying Sony hasn’t have new ip/experiences this gen. Astro bot, Helldivers 2, Returnal, stellar blade, all are great examples there just hasn’t been enough of them this gen and we are already half way through the gen. The sequels are great but games take so long to make and Sony was so focused on live service games they did a crap job of investing into new ip and new teams. They had a new ip in 2021 and then nothing new until 2024, that’s not good. 2024 is the perfect year that Sony could have had they switched out Concord for one of their “Sony style games”.
@Nei for art and game direction yes but not really action adventure. It was more so that previous years there weren’t enough higher rated action adventure games to fill out the category and this year it is.
@Nei bonanza just didn’t fit in a lot of the other categories. It didn’t have voice acting and platformers just kinda fell into action adventure games and there were other better action adventure games this year. But overall Bonanza more then earned its spot
@PuppetMaster it’s not a baseless prediction when looking at the best rated games of the year and yes Wukong got a nom but it’s the exception not the rule.
@Oram77 Wukong is the exception not the rule. Wukong also sold 20 million copies in a month vs Yotei. Not exactly the same thing with capturing the moment.
@PuppetMaster buddy I bought Yotei and love it. If it gets it great. I’m just saying that there are a lot of delusional fanboys that act like just cause Yotei is a PlayStation game then that’s a guarantee that it’s gonna be a GOTY contender. The reality is that there’s a lot of games that reviewed better then Yotei and it probably won’t get in.
@ShadowRJ more so used Blue Prince as an example of a game more likely to get a nomination then Yotei is. I don’t think it’s gonna get a nomination cause Silksong and Hades 2 took all the mindshare of indie games this year. More so saying that Yotei realistically isn’t gonna get a nomination. Think KCD2 stands a much better chance then Yotei at being an alternative nominee from the ones I listed
@Oram77 I think it was a good game and can understand why it got a nom with it doing so well in China but I just thought other games should have gotten a nomination over Wukong.
@ShadowRJ just cause Tsushima got a GOTY nomination doesn’t mean anything. Outer Worlds got a GOTY nomination, OW2 isn’t gonna get one. Doom eternal got a GOTY nomination but Dark Ages isn’t gonna get one. This year has so many great games that a lot of games just aren’t gonna make the cut and in reality Yotei isn’t even in just outside of the top 6, it’s lower than that. Games like KCD2 and Blue Prince have better odds of getting a nomination then Yotei does.
Just wild it’s not gonna have a ps5 port at launch. Obviously the live service push isn’t ideal but this is the best case scenario of outsourcing the ip to an experienced developer in the genre. Mean it’s wild that it’s not on ps5 even though games like Warframe, where winds meet, gehsin and others all have cross play and progression. Will say actually like this idea and it’s nice to see Horizon actually having deeper rpg elements then what the mainline games have.
Think it’s less the story and more so the over abundance of 3rd person narrative focused action adventure games. Last of us, uncharted, ghost, horizon, god of war, even death stranding. To be clear, I think mostly everyone of these games are fantastic besides for maybe horizon and even then horizon aren’t bad games. But they all fall under the narrative focused action adventure genre. Think a lot of the ill will this gen towards 1st party separate from the live service ***** does stem from a lack of greater variety amongst their output this gen. 2021 and 2024 are the exceptions but outside of those 2 years it’d been only this type of game. Yes they are getting better with it. 2026 with Saros and Marvel Tokon are exactly why I’m talking about with a greater variety but I would like to see Sony invest in or sign a 2nd party deal and make a single player fps game. A proper Western rpg and not the half crapped attempt that horizon does.
@UltimateOtaku91 but buying big name studios and publishers isn’t the answer either. To be clear I 10000% agree with investing in new ip, but the best way to do this is to invest in newer teams with 2nd party deals. That’s how all the other teams started and worked up. This gen I use the examples of Returnal, Stellar Blade, Hellblade 2 ( yes it’s a sequel but it’s a new experience that’s well made) and Astro Bot.
@TruestoryYep the problems aren’t even the sequels it’s the over reliance on sequels this gen with very few new ip/ experiences mixed in with them. Not saying they haven’t done anything new (2021 and 2024 are examples, especially the great year of 2024) just that if you look at the big tentpole games this gen have been 98% big sequel and 1% live service and 1% new ip.
Glad to see a renewed focus on single player just hope Sony takes the right lessons from Concord’s failure. The problem wasn’t inherently live service just that they were idiots with how they did it. Also will say I hope Sony does a better job with intermixing more new single player experiences and ip and a wider investment of genres they are weaker in. I use 2021 and 2024 as examples of what I mean. Both years had new ip and new experiences. Would say the perfect year would be 2024 with a DS2/Rangarok big tentpole game instead of a concord. Their biggest problem this generation isn’t inherently the sequels it’s the nonstop stream of them for the most part with so few new ip/experiences. Still say that the ps4 was so successful cause of the stretch of new ip and experiences from 2017-2020. Spider-Man, horizon, Tsushima, hell even God of War 2018 was pretty much a new experience.
@Stevemalkpus outer worlds 2. I know it’s not a popular pick especially on this site with this group of fans but if people are acting like Yotei has a shot then Outer Worlds 2 does as well
This is only a good thing. Yes it’s less about Xbox and more about switch and pc but still. All the tech is so similar it makes sense to maximize sales at launch when you sell the majority of your copies and Square isn’t apart of Sony it’s of no value to limit your sales to a single platform. Good on square.
@Bluemoon2008 just saying supergiant isn’t some huge team. They are a star indie team with a smaller overhead. Nintendo is more than big enough to sign them to a year exclusive deal.
Great get by Nintendo. At least Nintendo is competing with PlayStation. As well GG’s to most of the other AAA games hoping to get into the GOTY conversation. Very unlikely games like KCD2, Yotei, DS2, OW2, and any others will get a spot besides on of them.
@Oram77 mean considering Both are quite a bit apart why not play both if Both are good, especially considering hack and slash games are few and far between today
Just like Nintendo doesn’t really have a strong case with Pocket Pair for palworld, think Sony is gonna have a hard time sueing Tencent. Is it similar, yes absolutely, but tencent’s game is a survival multiplayer game which is completely separate from Horizon.
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Re: PlayStation to Publish New PS5, PC Co-Op Game from Left 4 Dead Creator
Not a bad bet on Sony’s part but not mind blowing. Still think there are a lot other more pressing genres that Sony should be investing into.
Re: PS5 Action RPG The God Slayer No Longer Part of Sony's China Hero Project, First Gameplay Footage Is Jaw-Dropping
lol Sony didn’t pony up the cash for this one but they did for lost soul aside. Looks ***** great
Re: Talking Point: Does PS5 Have a Sequel Problem?
The problem isn’t inherently with the sequels, the problem is in the over abundance of them without investment into new ip/experiences and a greater variety of genres. Not saying Sony hasn’t have new ip/experiences this gen. Astro bot, Helldivers 2, Returnal, stellar blade, all are great examples there just hasn’t been enough of them this gen and we are already half way through the gen. The sequels are great but games take so long to make and Sony was so focused on live service games they did a crap job of investing into new ip and new teams. They had a new ip in 2021 and then nothing new until 2024, that’s not good. 2024 is the perfect year that Sony could have had they switched out Concord for one of their “Sony style games”.
Re: Talking Point: Does PS5 Have a Sequel Problem?
@AdamNovice just be happy with sequels and don’t expect more from Sony
Re: Talking Point: Does PS5 Have a Sequel Problem?
@SeaDaVie bad example considering how different each entry is in each franchise.
Re: Talking Point: The Game Awards 2025 Nominations Announced: Who Are Your Winners?
@TheArt metacritic isn’t the end all be all but yes it’s generally the best indicator. Yotei is a great game but there have been a lot of great games.
Re: Talking Point: The Game Awards 2025 Nominations Announced: Who Are Your Winners?
@Nei for art and game direction yes but not really action adventure. It was more so that previous years there weren’t enough higher rated action adventure games to fill out the category and this year it is.
Re: Talking Point: The Game Awards 2025 Nominations Announced: Who Are Your Winners?
@Nei bonanza just didn’t fit in a lot of the other categories. It didn’t have voice acting and platformers just kinda fell into action adventure games and there were other better action adventure games this year. But overall Bonanza more then earned its spot
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@ShadowRJ thank you. I’ll take my win lol. This is meant in all good fun by the way in case if that wasn’t clear.
Re: Talking Point: The Game Awards 2025 Nominations Announced: Who Are Your Winners?
@Veritas7Ax good to owning up to it
Re: Talking Point: The Game Awards 2025 Nominations Announced: Who Are Your Winners?
Low key love that KCD2 got in over Yotei lol
Re: Talking Point: The Game Awards 2025 Nominations Announced: Who Are Your Winners?
@AdamNovice Yotei wasn’t snubbed. There was just some better games released
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@PuppetMaster @Veritas7Ax @ShadowRJ
There it is boys. No Yotei
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@Veritas7Ax it’s not even gonna get a nomination realistically. There’s just too many other games that reviewed better.
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@Oram77 it wouldn’t have even beat Metaphor buddy.
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@PuppetMaster it’s not a baseless prediction when looking at the best rated games of the year and yes Wukong got a nom but it’s the exception not the rule.
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@PuppetMaster buddy out here acting like I’m the crazy one but has takes like this lol
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@Oram77 Wukong is the exception not the rule. Wukong also sold 20 million copies in a month vs Yotei. Not exactly the same thing with capturing the moment.
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@somnambulance yes cause a PlayStation website isn’t more biased towards a PlayStation studios game at all….
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@PuppetMaster buddy I bought Yotei and love it. If it gets it great. I’m just saying that there are a lot of delusional fanboys that act like just cause Yotei is a PlayStation game then that’s a guarantee that it’s gonna be a GOTY contender. The reality is that there’s a lot of games that reviewed better then Yotei and it probably won’t get in.
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@ShadowRJ more so used Blue Prince as an example of a game more likely to get a nomination then Yotei is. I don’t think it’s gonna get a nomination cause Silksong and Hades 2 took all the mindshare of indie games this year. More so saying that Yotei realistically isn’t gonna get a nomination. Think KCD2 stands a much better chance then Yotei at being an alternative nominee from the ones I listed
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@Oram77 I think it was a good game and can understand why it got a nom with it doing so well in China but I just thought other games should have gotten a nomination over Wukong.
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@ShadowRJ enough of the judges have heard of the games I mentioned and gave them better review scores then Yotei to get in.
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@Oram77 main difference is that E33 has the review scores to back it up
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@Oh_fiddlesticks mean Expedition 33 is literally gonna win but ok lol
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@Ainu20 just saying neither are gonna get a nomination
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@SaltySpitoon957 to get a nomination yes, the actual winner is almost guaranteed to be Expedition 33
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@ShadowRJ just cause Tsushima got a GOTY nomination doesn’t mean anything. Outer Worlds got a GOTY nomination, OW2 isn’t gonna get one. Doom eternal got a GOTY nomination but Dark Ages isn’t gonna get one. This year has so many great games that a lot of games just aren’t gonna make the cut and in reality Yotei isn’t even in just outside of the top 6, it’s lower than that. Games like KCD2 and Blue Prince have better odds of getting a nomination then Yotei does.
Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
@Ainu20 if it’s any consolation neither KCD2 or Yotei are gonna get a GOTY nomination.
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Re: Steel Yourselves: The Game Awards Nominees Are Being Announced Imminently
I need the lot of you hardcore PS fanboys to realize that Yotei isn’t gonna got a GOTY nomination. The 6 nominees are gonna be
Split Fiction
Hollow Knight Silksong
Donkey Kong Bonanza
Hades 2
Death Stranding 2
And the winner is gonna be Expedtion 33.
Just prepare yourselves and don’t b i t c h about it.
Re: The Next Horizon Game Is an MMO for Mobile and PC, Prompting Fury from PS5 Fans
Just wild it’s not gonna have a ps5 port at launch. Obviously the live service push isn’t ideal but this is the best case scenario of outsourcing the ip to an experienced developer in the genre. Mean it’s wild that it’s not on ps5 even though games like Warframe, where winds meet, gehsin and others all have cross play and progression. Will say actually like this idea and it’s nice to see Horizon actually having deeper rpg elements then what the mainline games have.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Getting Sick of Sony's Supposedly 'Samey' Approach to Story Telling?
Think it’s less the story and more so the over abundance of 3rd person narrative focused action adventure games. Last of us, uncharted, ghost, horizon, god of war, even death stranding. To be clear, I think mostly everyone of these games are fantastic besides for maybe horizon and even then horizon aren’t bad games. But they all fall under the narrative focused action adventure genre. Think a lot of the ill will this gen towards 1st party separate from the live service ***** does stem from a lack of greater variety amongst their output this gen. 2021 and 2024 are the exceptions but outside of those 2 years it’d been only this type of game. Yes they are getting better with it. 2026 with Saros and Marvel Tokon are exactly why I’m talking about with a greater variety but I would like to see Sony invest in or sign a 2nd party deal and make a single player fps game. A proper Western rpg and not the half crapped attempt that horizon does.
Re: Sony to 'Advance Position as Creative Leader in Single Player Experiences'
@Oram77 the problem isn’t inherently the sequels themselves, it’s the lack of mixing in new ip and experiences mixed in with the said sequels.
Re: Sony to 'Advance Position as Creative Leader in Single Player Experiences'
@UltimateOtaku91 but buying big name studios and publishers isn’t the answer either. To be clear I 10000% agree with investing in new ip, but the best way to do this is to invest in newer teams with 2nd party deals. That’s how all the other teams started and worked up. This gen I use the examples of Returnal, Stellar Blade, Hellblade 2 ( yes it’s a sequel but it’s a new experience that’s well made) and Astro Bot.
Re: Sony to 'Advance Position as Creative Leader in Single Player Experiences'
@LogicStrikesAgain very accurate name 1000% right
Re: Sony to 'Advance Position as Creative Leader in Single Player Experiences'
@TruestoryYep the problems aren’t even the sequels it’s the over reliance on sequels this gen with very few new ip/ experiences mixed in with them. Not saying they haven’t done anything new (2021 and 2024 are examples, especially the great year of 2024) just that if you look at the big tentpole games this gen have been 98% big sequel and 1% live service and 1% new ip.
Re: Sony to 'Advance Position as Creative Leader in Single Player Experiences'
Glad to see a renewed focus on single player just hope Sony takes the right lessons from Concord’s failure. The problem wasn’t inherently live service just that they were idiots with how they did it. Also will say I hope Sony does a better job with intermixing more new single player experiences and ip and a wider investment of genres they are weaker in. I use 2021 and 2024 as examples of what I mean. Both years had new ip and new experiences. Would say the perfect year would be 2024 with a DS2/Rangarok big tentpole game instead of a concord. Their biggest problem this generation isn’t inherently the sequels it’s the nonstop stream of them for the most part with so few new ip/experiences. Still say that the ps4 was so successful cause of the stretch of new ip and experiences from 2017-2020. Spider-Man, horizon, Tsushima, hell even God of War 2018 was pretty much a new experience.
Re: Hades 2 Will Do You a Favour and Duck the Hectic September Schedule on PS5
@Stevemalkpus outer worlds 2. I know it’s not a popular pick especially on this site with this group of fans but if people are acting like Yotei has a shot then Outer Worlds 2 does as well
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Remake Trilogy's Conclusion Will Not Be PS5 Exclusive
This is only a good thing. Yes it’s less about Xbox and more about switch and pc but still. All the tech is so similar it makes sense to maximize sales at launch when you sell the majority of your copies and Square isn’t apart of Sony it’s of no value to limit your sales to a single platform. Good on square.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Remake Trilogy's Conclusion Will Not Be PS5 Exclusive
@PuppetMaster it’s not guaranteed but it’s a lot more likely
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Remake Trilogy's Conclusion Will Not Be PS5 Exclusive
@ShadowRJ it’s less about Xbox and more about pc but all of them are so similar in tech that it makes sense to just maximize sales on everything
Re: Hades 2 Will Do You a Favour and Duck the Hectic September Schedule on PS5
@Bluemoon2008 just saying supergiant isn’t some huge team. They are a star indie team with a smaller overhead. Nintendo is more than big enough to sign them to a year exclusive deal.
Re: Hades 2 Will Do You a Favour and Duck the Hectic September Schedule on PS5
@Bluemoon2008 why not almost a year? Nintendo is more then capable of signing a big check lol
Re: Hades 2 Will Do You a Favour and Duck the Hectic September Schedule on PS5
Great get by Nintendo. At least Nintendo is competing with PlayStation. As well GG’s to most of the other AAA games hoping to get into the GOTY conversation. Very unlikely games like KCD2, Yotei, DS2, OW2, and any others will get a spot besides on of them.
Re: Rumour: Call of Duty: Black Ops 7's Campaign May Force You into Multiplayer
Owe this is gonna be MW3 in the worst possible way again lol
Re: Round Up: Ninja Gaiden 4 Sounds Like the Slick, Brutal Sequel Fans Are Hoping For
@Oram77 mean considering Both are quite a bit apart why not play both if Both are good, especially considering hack and slash games are few and far between today
Re: Invincible VS Looks Like Another Accessible Tag Fighter for PS5
Man so happy to see the fighting game renaissance continuing on.
Re: Battlefield 6 Trailer Leaks All Point to October PS5 Release
Is EA actually bout to pull this off??
Re: Sony Sues Tencent Over 'Shameless' Horizon Copycat Coming to PS5
Just like Nintendo doesn’t really have a strong case with Pocket Pair for palworld, think Sony is gonna have a hard time sueing Tencent. Is it similar, yes absolutely, but tencent’s game is a survival multiplayer game which is completely separate from Horizon.