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Having it be only on ps5 would be very stupid. With how expensive a game like that would be too make. Bare minimum it also needs to be on pc, bare minimum.

This is cool and the game does look sick. But will say overall as an industry, wish a new trend of more single player fps games would happen instead of more 3rd person action games, especially those in the souls lane.

Not even mad at them wanting to do more multiplayer live service type games, they just ***** the bed so ***** bad. There’s a right way and a wrong way to do love service and doing 12 live service games at once, of which included teams that specialize in single player games, is the wrong way.

@GamingFan4Lyf it’s not perfect but for 80ish% of games it works great on the steam deck, so I can imagine if given a proper home console version would probably work great.

@GamingFan4Lyf if valve does have a “steam machine 2.0” which is rumored then that will give them big competition

@Old-Red while this is a point of contention for a very small group of people, I’m also in this camp. Physical games are the main reason why I am a console gamer and own all 3. Once physical games stop being made I’m all pc. Also this point is only amplified if the ps6 costs $700. At that point I’m ready to say f u c k you to Sony. Will get their games eventually

Multifaceted thing here. 1st party games going to PC can offer incredible revenue and that’s certainly a good thing with how expensive games have become, especially the “Sony game” type. But the delayed release does take away a lot of the excitement that the initial release date has. For Sony it’s going to come down to how much more they want on return from their exclusives. Reality is that most people are already in the camp they are in and aren’t switching so going day and date will result in bigger launch numbers and more sales. Will say that if the PS6 is $700 then that by itself will lead to a lot of people switching to pc. PC gaming is getting more popular and cheaper, especially with the intel gpu’s being super cheap and the new RTX cards having insane lower teir options.

@dskatter fair enough, was more so coming from a vinyl is cooler to collect angle and if they even offer a slight better sound then cds and if you are a physical collector might as well go with that.

@Swirly if you are gonna by cds might as well switch over to vinyl. Better sound quality and also retain more value.

Unfortunate but it’s reality. Gonna enjoy physical games the rest of this gen then go fully pc next gen. Physical games have been the main reason why I have been a console gamer but if they go away so do I.

This made me happy to see. Moving up a week is good to give them more room and also them getting a performance mode with hopefully 60 fps is great to see.

Man shout out too Halo Infinite for being the first major game to do this. Very cool to see

Looks like it will have a shot at doing well. The depth of hero’s is very good and while yes it is gimmicky as long as they make it good enough it could stand. Them doing full live service free to play will give it a chance at success

Hopefully it sells well and EA set a realistic expectation for it. While the people hyping it up as GOTY seem to be talking out of their ass, it’s clear at the very least that this is a good solid game. Which for BioWare is at the very least a solid W.

Cool, another new studio formed by industry veterans that will most certainly disappoint us again 😒😒

@trev666 which makes a lot of sense since a lot of those devs are making the great circle now lol

@DennisReynolds by that logic naughty dog and Santa Monica are worthless horrible devs cause they can’t make 1st person games.

@DennisReynolds this is a stupid and disingenuous thought. The devs specialize in first person games. This would be the equivalent of saying all of Sony’s main teams are bad cause they aren’t talented enough to make first person games.

Pretty solid list, and that’s not even including the other games that could easily have been on it as well. Infinite wealth, Dragon’s Dogma 2, and Stellar Blade to name a few. Would say it’s pretty hard to be mad with the variety on this list.

Seems like these are good numbers. Think people using other games as comparisons are overlooking some factors going against Veilguard. DD2 was more in the Elden Ring route where the world is the main draw and not the story, which is the case for Veilguard. Considering the reviews are good sitting around a 80-85 seems like the numbers line up. Want this game to do well so EA continues to make single player games which overall they have actually been doing a good job with in recent years.

Xbox 1st party getting a W!!

@Jay767 I mainly said not launching on PC day and date hurt sales. With how good both of those games are and how well reviewed they are they would have done very well on PC. Launching later of any platform is going to hamper its sales potential. Yea Xbox would have probably not helped too much but with how similar all the platforms are if you make a game for 2 of the 3 might as well make it for the third one, especially if you are a 3rd party. Also not saying Sony didn’t give them a good deal, just that Square’s expectations of the deal were clearly not meant and that they would have been better off being fully multiplat.

@Jay767 not saying it’s Sony’s Fault. Saying the exclusivity deals aren’t doing enough to make Square the money they are expecting from both 16 and Rebirth and that they would have been better off being fully multiplatform releases. Then I used the success that Capcom, Sega/Atlus, and Fromsoftware as examples of great success that publishers/developers can find by being fully multiplatform, especially with how expensive game development has gotten. And yes Bandai is having issues but you still are better off being on everything and having the chance of making more money from all platforms vs only being on one. Mainly not being on pc.

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@Jay767 makes sense for Sony yes but it’s starting to make less sense for 3rd parties. Look at Square having financial issues vs Sega/Atlus, Capcom, Fromsoftware and more all finding success being fully multiplatform. Yes 2nd party is different but that’s more so for newer teams and such.

Makes sense. Not clear if it would be a Final fantasy/silent hill 3rd party deal or a 2nd party stellar blade deal but timed exclusivity is fading away. Square failing to consistently hit sales expectations vs the other major 3rd party Japanese publishers being fully multiplatform and finding all sorts of success with the likes of Sega/Atlus, Capcom, Fromsoftware, etc. for sure AAA 3rd party games need to be on PS5 and PC day and date if you are going to two 2 platforms you might as well do Xbox since all are x86 based. Could see Sony still getting deals like this for newer ip and studios like Shift Up for Stellar Blade or questionable returns like Bloober Team and Silent Hill 2, but established teams don’t really have an incentive. Pearl Abyss is huge with Black Desert and owning CCP and Eve, they don’t need Sony to publish it.

@__Seraph well at the very least now they have a certified hit on their hands. It’s nice to see teams finding success in games, especially in the year we have had.

@__Seraph they may be not bad but they certainly weren’t good. You have every right to like the games but they all god mid to mediocre reviews until now

@Oram77 yes that’s that other main example I was thinking off but the reason I would say Silent Hill 2 is the bigger surprise is cause Shift Up didn’t have any precedence so Stellar Blade was an unknown quantity so it could have went either way. All this opposite Bloober team which is a known team, known for bad to mediocre horror games. So for a bad team like Bloober team who had bad trailers for SH2 remake to actually deliver and make a great game I would argue is a bigger surprise.

Would say this is the best surprise of the year. So often we see games and studios miss the mark and make not bad games but disappointing games. It’s not often we see a studio that’s known overall for mediocre games graduate to that next level to make something truly great. With how light this year has been for games that would fall under “action/adventure” could see SH2 actually having a great chance at winning it.

Horizon has great games but this maybe an example of Sony expecting way too much from thisbip

I just wanted a release date man 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

This is sad cause Massive is a good team capable of making great games. Having the lead of division 2 gave me a lot of hope for this game and it was very sad to see how poor this game did at launch. Having busted stealth and crappy feeling shooting is nuts with how good division is. At the very least Ubisoft is unbeaten with post game updates so not worried on that note but was expecting way more out of them. It’s going to be ***** nuts too see a very likely scenario where warhammer 40k game is going to chart higher then a Star Wars game.

Hopefully they figure it out. Jusant was always gonna be a more niche game and Banishers came out at a bad time.

Really hope for first party to be more then just more unnecessary remakes and remasters. Obviously it’s not going to be a blowout but would be nice to see a Death Stranding 2 release date for earlyish next year and maybe a Fairgames or Marathon trailer if either of them are in ok shape. Would be very smart to tease Ghost 2 or reveal what firesprite is working on, at least give the fans something else that’s first party single player to chew on.

@Member_the_game lol ain’t no chance a Xbox owned game is gonna show up at a state of play come on now don’t be stupid

This whole thing sent me down the rabbit hole. Completely failed to make the connection between Annapurna and Skydance both being funded by Larry Ellison giving money to his kids.

Really wish Sony would have a showcase so we can focus on the ***** that actually matters, which is the games.

@TomasVrboda it’s not unreal 5, it’s saber’s own Swarm engine

$400 million dollars lost from Concord. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@LogicStrikesAgain Fortnite is a little different. The skins make the player’s character vs Hero games like overwatch and Apex where part of the kit is the hero’s style.

@LogicStrikesAgain think it was just a mixture of things adding up to a total ***** storm. The game itself was good, but it was one of the most trend chasing games in recent years. On top of it you have it coming from Sony which has been very quiet and hasn’t shown off anything new from their 1st party teams for a while, on top of a lot of other hero shooters close to launching that also play good but are free, on top of it having bad character design and its biggest “innovation” being weekly cutscenes which no one gives a ***** about.

@LogicStrikesAgain and Sony should come up with multiplayer games and new ip, just make them good. They probably won’t but hopefully they take the right lessons from Concord’s failure and Helldivers 2 success. Make new multiplayer games with unique mechanics and unique experiences.

@cburg shut up and get it right….. it’s the series s

I hope if the rework doesn’t work out that Sony keeps them on to do something else and that they don’t lose their jobs. Also think if Marathon turns out to be a hit with so many coming from bungie them being a support team could maybe help. Sad for the rank and file who just worked on the game.

@BIG3 they probably will. Think it’s the view of if they are going to port to pc which is the most cost effective move might as well do it for Xbox too cause you can maybe get a game pass bag eventually

@Kierant202 they would do much better on pc if they would release day and date. The old adage of you only have one first impression applies here. They miss out of the launch hype and don’t get the full zeitgeist