@JokerBoy322 but like I say it's a bonus. It doesn't affect anything it existing or not existing if you want the 60 fps. I don't see how it's an issue them doing extra work on a new mode. The pro is just meant to give us better options and full PS5 visuals at 60 not less options . Having only one mode on the Pro and 2 on the regular PS5 does the opposite
@Fishnpeas and no games? I mean I've played probably 25 that are console exclusives. I've played 3 in the last month or so alone. It isn't amazing but people forget how barren PS4 was for first party exclusives. It was year 5 it all started picking up
@Fishnpeas i mean it's astrobot they're going to be similar. Spiderman 2 is like spiderman 1. GOW ragnarok is like GOW. Sequels are generally always similar. Don't change what's broken, Astro Bot is outstanding.
@JokerBoy322 but it does. It's literally original PS5 fidelity mode at 60 fps. Its exactly the best of both worlds. They've done added work to include an extra mode as a bonus, they didn't have to. I don't see how people complain at that.
@PsBoxSwitchOwner but a £700 PC doesn't do it better. They aren't exactly making money on the console so how are they ripping people off? People fail to see how much the components in this thing cost, sure they could have made it cheaper but then it woud have hardly been an upgrade. It's an optional upgrade you don't need to buy it so you aren't ripped off.
@Medic_alert same. I moved from a 4K monitor to a 1440 OLED and it looks better than ever. 4K is such a massive waste of resources. I'd much rather 1440 was concentrated on with more details (especially as PSSR is doing the work now)
@Gewertzx damn now that's an opinion. Even if I didn't like a game baffles me people can call a game that's widely called one of the best on PS4 a turd 😅
@TheArt because it was already very well optimised on the PS5...why does that mean last gen should have gone another 4 years. Not as if they cut the gen short. Who wants to wait over 10 years between a console gen. I've probably played 20 games only on a PS5 console wise...worth it to me
@rjejr I mean why use this game as a basis and saying a waste of money? It already looked amazing in 60 fps on the base PS5. Use a game like Rebirth as a metric which didn't. Differences like that are where its worth my money.
@CrashBandicoat I just don't see the point of Xbox existing as a console anymore, given the struggles this gen i wouldnt even be surprsed if they dropped out of the console market totally. I have gamepass but on a laptop, it's a much better experience.
@Kalime78 absolutely isn't 2 years. There was a chip shortage and covid, that's delaying things. Even by a normal timeline it'd be another 3 years. They won't follow what Xbox do anymore, the Pro shows that. I can see Xbox releasing one in the next 18 months tbh.
It isn't though, is it? You said day one games. That is early access. Fay one games are still the same price they've been for ages. I bought Metaphor for £40 day one.
@LavenderShroud value for money for me. If I get a platinum I know I've got my moneys worth and seen everything the game has to offer. Sense of achievement too if anything was difficult
@TheDudeElDuderino people with families mostly I'm guessing. Much better to stay sat with your family than banished to another room whilst you play a game. People who want to play on the go as well. Can imagine its pretty cool if you just want to chill in bed as well and don't want to drag the playstation upstairs
@Shad361 they will. There's about 50 on Ebay, which isn't bad out of probably 50k or more sold. As said, if it was they had only sold them to scalpers there would be 1000s for sale. The price is dropping to £800...after fees it's barely worth even doing it and this is day one. There's a lot more to be released on the market yet. Scalping isn't a thing for this Pro it's just the odd few trying to make a quick buck cause they don't know it isn't worth scalping this.
@RubyCarbuncle doubt it or it wouldn't have taken 4 hours for them to sell out it'd have taken minutes tbh. Obvs some will end up on Ebay as that's what people are like
@S1ayeR74 tbf there is some that do native 4K/120 but they're just weak graphical games. I honestly believe forbidden West will do PSSR 4k/120 though given the frame rate on the regular ps5
@TheElectroFunky there is the retail run after this in a couple of weeks too. I just don't wanna not buy the Pro tomorrow when it comes available because the 30th hasn't dropped yet ðŸ«
This is one that the difference will be great because it already was able to run at a very high frame rate. With PSSR you're probably getting AI upscaled 4K/120 with this title.
@TheElectroFunky I'm wondering this too because I'm wondering about the times tomorrow. For instance if the regular Pro releases before the 30th edition one and I've bought a regular pro...can I still buy the 30th anniversary one? Because they may only let one pro per account
@S1ayeR74 you can buy them tbf but the price is stupid. The TVs are pretty cheap now though (well cheap for 8K) and a lot smaller than they used to be. 8K is stupid though
@nessisonett well yes tbh. They just advertise the capabilites of the console. Isn't really their fault if literally every developer hasn't taken advantage of it. If someone made an 8K mode then it'd have run.
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Re: Gaze in Awe at Official PS5 Pro Enhanced Label, Gracing Physical Game Boxes Soon
@Czar_Khastik of course it's being worked on. We won't see it for 4 years though
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered (PS5) - A Sublime Remaster of a Modern PlayStation Classic
Trophies don't transfer and you're marking down the score for it? That's literally a benefit 😂
Re: Spider-Man 2, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart PS5 Pro Updates Include Ray Tracing Toggles
@JokerBoy322 but like I say it's a bonus. It doesn't affect anything it existing or not existing if you want the 60 fps. I don't see how it's an issue them doing extra work on a new mode. The pro is just meant to give us better options and full PS5 visuals at 60 not less options . Having only one mode on the Pro and 2 on the regular PS5 does the opposite
Re: Spider-Man 2, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart PS5 Pro Updates Include Ray Tracing Toggles
@Fishnpeas and no games? I mean I've played probably 25 that are console exclusives. I've played 3 in the last month or so alone. It isn't amazing but people forget how barren PS4 was for first party exclusives. It was year 5 it all started picking up
Re: Spider-Man 2, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart PS5 Pro Updates Include Ray Tracing Toggles
@Fishnpeas i mean it's astrobot they're going to be similar. Spiderman 2 is like spiderman 1. GOW ragnarok is like GOW. Sequels are generally always similar. Don't change what's broken, Astro Bot is outstanding.
Re: Spider-Man 2, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart PS5 Pro Updates Include Ray Tracing Toggles
@JokerBoy322 but it does. It's literally original PS5 fidelity mode at 60 fps. Its exactly the best of both worlds. They've done added work to include an extra mode as a bonus, they didn't have to. I don't see how people complain at that.
Re: Spider-Man 2, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart PS5 Pro Updates Include Ray Tracing Toggles
@PsBoxSwitchOwner but a £700 PC doesn't do it better. They aren't exactly making money on the console so how are they ripping people off? People fail to see how much the components in this thing cost, sure they could have made it cheaper but then it woud have hardly been an upgrade. It's an optional upgrade you don't need to buy it so you aren't ripped off.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn PS5 Is an Absolutely Insane Upgrade
I wasn't impressed originally but wow overall ive changed that opinion. For anyone who says it looks the same book the opticians
Re: Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii Significantly Longer Than Kiryu's Recent Spin-Off
Suits me. Bring on all the 'yakuza' you can pump out. I never tire of them
Re: Black Ops 6 Another Call of Duty with No PS5 Platinum Trophy
And people wonder why they call them DLCs 😂 literally costing them sales.
Re: PS5 Pro's Proprietary Upscaler PSSR Is Looking Very Promising
@Carck I have both, but my monitor is on a bracket next to my sofa. I have the PS5 for exclusives and cheaper games
Re: PS5 Pro's Proprietary Upscaler PSSR Is Looking Very Promising
@silversteel91 isn't exactly sucking the fans dry when they aren't making any money on it. And it actually does do 8K/60 even though 8K is pointless.
Re: PS5 Pro's Proprietary Upscaler PSSR Is Looking Very Promising
@Carck can tell in one second by looking at the character model. I play on a monitor maybe it's different. Performance mode was muddy as hell
Re: PS5 Pro's Proprietary Upscaler PSSR Is Looking Very Promising
@OldGamer999 I could spot it instantly from the textures, grass and models.
Re: PS5 Pro's Proprietary Upscaler PSSR Is Looking Very Promising
@Carck that's just to emphasise it. When you look at what it's done to FF7 Rebirth you can spot the difference instantly
Re: Dragon's Dogma 2 PS5 Performance Quietly Improved By Latest Patch, Players Say
@Medic_alert same. I moved from a 4K monitor to a 1440 OLED and it looks better than ever. 4K is such a massive waste of resources. I'd much rather 1440 was concentrated on with more details (especially as PSSR is doing the work now)
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered Sounds Like a Ridiculously Good PS5 Upgrade
@Gewertzx damn now that's an opinion. Even if I didn't like a game baffles me people can call a game that's widely called one of the best on PS4 a turd 😅
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Showcases the Problem with Sony's Games on PS5 Pro
@TheArt because it was already very well optimised on the PS5...why does that mean last gen should have gone another 4 years. Not as if they cut the gen short. Who wants to wait over 10 years between a console gen. I've probably played 20 games only on a PS5 console wise...worth it to me
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Showcases the Problem with Sony's Games on PS5 Pro
@rjejr I mean why use this game as a basis and saying a waste of money? It already looked amazing in 60 fps on the base PS5. Use a game like Rebirth as a metric which didn't. Differences like that are where its worth my money.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Showcases the Problem with Sony's Games on PS5 Pro
@Ken_Kaniff for you. Dragon age and FF7 Rebirth alone show the worth for me. I refuse to play at 30 fps and that's the difference
Re: PS5 Pro Makes Quality, Performance Modes in Dragon Age: The Veilguard Better Than Ever
@CrashBandicoat I just don't see the point of Xbox existing as a console anymore, given the struggles this gen i wouldnt even be surprsed if they dropped out of the console market totally. I have gamepass but on a laptop, it's a much better experience.
Re: PS5 Pro Makes Quality, Performance Modes in Dragon Age: The Veilguard Better Than Ever
@Kalime78 absolutely isn't 2 years. There was a chip shortage and covid, that's delaying things. Even by a normal timeline it'd be another 3 years. They won't follow what Xbox do anymore, the Pro shows that. I can see Xbox releasing one in the next 18 months tbh.
Re: Opinion: The Price of Playing PS5 Games Day One Is Getting Higher and Higher
It isn't though, is it? You said day one games. That is early access. Fay one games are still the same price they've been for ages. I bought Metaphor for £40 day one.
Re: PS5 Pro Makes Quality, Performance Modes in Dragon Age: The Veilguard Better Than Ever
And this is why I've bought a pro. Not for the limited stuff available on older games. For what it'll do for the next 3 years of games.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Trophies Want You to Do Everything on PS5
Always will appreciate big games not making you play twice. Absolutely pointless. Nice to see that's not the case this time
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Trophies Want You to Do Everything on PS5
@LavenderShroud value for money for me. If I get a platinum I know I've got my moneys worth and seen everything the game has to offer. Sense of achievement too if anything was difficult
Re: One Year On, Plucky PS Portal's Sales Remain Strong
@TheDudeElDuderino people with families mostly I'm guessing. Much better to stay sat with your family than banished to another room whilst you play a game. People who want to play on the go as well. Can imagine its pretty cool if you just want to chill in bed as well and don't want to drag the playstation upstairs
Re: Poll: Did You Pre-Order a PS5 Pro?
@Slidebomb Better gaming, more enjoyment, cost me about €350 to upgrade and I'll use it for 4 years, no need to feel sorry for me 🙃
Re: In the UK, PS5 Pro Has Already Completely Sold Out
@Shad361 they will. There's about 50 on Ebay, which isn't bad out of probably 50k or more sold. As said, if it was they had only sold them to scalpers there would be 1000s for sale. The price is dropping to £800...after fees it's barely worth even doing it and this is day one. There's a lot more to be released on the market yet. Scalping isn't a thing for this Pro it's just the odd few trying to make a quick buck cause they don't know it isn't worth scalping this.
Re: The Last of Us Part 1 and 2 Will Both Look and Perform Better than Ever on PS5 Pro
Even if it was supposed to be on the PS5 it's nice to have proper 4K/60 finally
Re: In the UK, PS5 Pro Has Already Completely Sold Out
@Shad361 maybe 1% of them. It was active for 4 hours. Anyone who wanted one could easily get one. If they disappeared in minutes you'd be right
Re: In the UK, PS5 Pro Has Already Completely Sold Out
@RubyCarbuncle doubt it or it wouldn't have taken 4 hours for them to sell out it'd have taken minutes tbh. Obvs some will end up on Ebay as that's what people are like
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
@CrashBandicoat given there's only 12000 of them this'll easily be worth a couple thousand
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
Tells you not to refresh but the people who actually refreshed got put into the queue. Well done sony
Re: 'PS5 Pro Is a Really Good Investment,' Argue Tech Experts After Hands-On
@Medic_alert control is definitely a good one. The RT was very nice but I couldn't handle the frame rate
Re: 'PS5 Pro Is a Really Good Investment,' Argue Tech Experts After Hands-On
@Jrs1 it'll sell out tomorrow anyways
Re: Horizon Forbidden West on PS5 Pro Is 'Pure Eye Candy at Race Car Levels of Performance'
@Ralizah correct. I played it on the 120hz mode. Getting 90+ and it looked stunning. Can't imagine how great it'll look now
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Experiment with 8K, 60fps on PS5 Pro
@S1ayeR74 tbf there is some that do native 4K/120 but they're just weak graphical games. I honestly believe forbidden West will do PSSR 4k/120 though given the frame rate on the regular ps5
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Experiment with 8K, 60fps on PS5 Pro
@TheElectroFunky there is the retail run after this in a couple of weeks too. I just don't wanna not buy the Pro tomorrow when it comes available because the 30th hasn't dropped yet ðŸ«
Re: Horizon Forbidden West on PS5 Pro Is 'Pure Eye Candy at Race Car Levels of Performance'
This is one that the difference will be great because it already was able to run at a very high frame rate. With PSSR you're probably getting AI upscaled 4K/120 with this title.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Experiment with 8K, 60fps on PS5 Pro
@TheElectroFunky I'm wondering this too because I'm wondering about the times tomorrow. For instance if the regular Pro releases before the 30th edition one and I've bought a regular pro...can I still buy the 30th anniversary one? Because they may only let one pro per account
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Experiment with 8K, 60fps on PS5 Pro
@S1ayeR74 you can buy them tbf but the price is stupid. The TVs are pretty cheap now though (well cheap for 8K) and a lot smaller than they used to be. 8K is stupid though
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Experiment with 8K, 60fps on PS5 Pro
8K screens are pretty cheap now. They're just pointless
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Experiment with 8K, 60fps on PS5 Pro
@Loamy I have a 1440 OLED and I'm actually interested tbh because it was always the issue 1440p dividing into 4K. But it divides perfectly into 8K
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Experiment with 8K, 60fps on PS5 Pro
@Frmknst like I know 8K is pointless but no different between 1080 and 8K? Come on 😂😂 1080p to 1440p is massively noticeable never mind that.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Experiment with 8K, 60fps on PS5 Pro
@RubyCarbuncle exactly hahaha
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Experiment with 8K, 60fps on PS5 Pro
@nessisonett well yes tbh. They just advertise the capabilites of the console. Isn't really their fault if literally every developer hasn't taken advantage of it. If someone made an 8K mode then it'd have run.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Experiment with 8K, 60fps on PS5 Pro
@nessisonett I mean whose fault is it, isn't sonys
Re: How To Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
@Romans12 you're joking right? It'll be sold out within 2 minutes. If even that long
Re: A Massive 75% of UK Game Sales Were Digital Last Month
@Secryt where's this data?