@OldGamer999 not that im disagreeing with the prices beibg high but pro was £350 not 300 and in fairness that's nearly 500 in today's money. We don't know the price of the new pro but 500 to 600 is quite a way off double and it could easily be cheaper than 600 yet
@nomither6 in fairness I don't think you do. Unless you're running a 4K screen of course. I actually downgraded from a 4K to a 1440p and I can max every game out so far
@nomither6 yeah CPU will be ancient compared. That'll limit it. But much better to put the money in the GPU I guess. 4070 is upper limit, didn't want to say 4060 cause it'll be more than that. Maybe 7800xt
@Waitinonpsvr2 People thought the same for the PS4 Pro. Sold out instantly. And the power is close to maxing. Because games aren't hitting 60 fps. Given the power of it and the rumoured price, they're losing money on units. Won't be dropped for a long time.
Just hope there is 2 different versions. Making it digital only would be the dumbest thing ever, because you won't be able to get hold of the disc drives. Then that'll stop people buying it.
@nomither6 it'll be better than 90-95% of people's PCs. Really isn't that substandard. It'll be equivalent to a mid to high level gaming PC, which for a console is pretty good
@Jacko11 literally no idea where you're getting that. It's the opposite. If live service games are runaway successes they'll just make more of them instead. Concord failing and Wukong being a monster success is the best thing that's happened for Story games in ages.
@rjejr GTA V sold over 10 million day one and the hype for this one is way higher. 20m day one wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. It'd the most hyped game released in history
@WaveBoy as do I. 4K doesn't interest me as much any more. I've just switched from a 4K monitor to a 1440 OLED and it looks far better. But I'd love more 120hz support
@Coffeeglitch yup absolutely. PS4 Pro was supported pretty well. But even if they don't bother adding a specialist mode on some games, if the performance is choppy it'll smooth that out without any dev input
Keep them coming. I don't think I'll ever burn out of this series. Gotta say whilst I did still love the newest one. Hawaii didn't have the charm of Japan
For anyone that is saying it doesn't need to exist, games aren't maxed out. They literally are. That's why we are dropping more and more frequently under 30 fps. Potentially tripling the graphics power ensures that won't happen for 95% of games. And the PSSR sounds like a revelation. Just because you don't want one, doesn't mean the rest of us who have had their console 4 years don't. For the sake of a couple hundred quid upgrade
Days gone was awesome. Never in any way a 6. The hoards were amazing. Issue was it was a bit rough on release and the reviews reflected that. Fully believe if it was reviewed now it'd score 80+
@nomither6 they'll always be relevant because of the value. Until PCs can be bought for 400 that overpower them, there will always be a market. Plus a lot of people aren't as technically minded and just wanted a simple plug and play, and owning a gaming laptop myself they're rarely just plug and play.
Don't see the issue myself. If it was day one sure. It literally benefits us as it means sequels are more likely. Don't affect you in slightest if a game comes out in PC. It'll be 4 years for the PC port of Ragnarok. Is it that big of a deal?
@NEStalgia gameplay is outstanding imo. You could skin this is any game and it'd have got the same reviews. I dunno why people call it milking, 12 years of full development is expensive. Given the sales aren't what's expected I doubt its made much
@Bentleyma probably not tbh. It's been in development a while, and UE5 is power hungry. And it'll release on PS5 which rebirrh is already struggling on
@belmont brawler is simple if you pause. Just need to learn which animation is which putting. The sit ups were a nightmare. They're by far the hardest minigame in the game for me
30 fps needs to die. And for anyone who says you can't tell the difference. Pan the camera, once. If you can't tell that one feels like it's juddering and moving through tar you have issues 😂 I wouldn't mind but the 30 fps games don't look any better, in fact they look worse - look at dragons dogma. Forbidden West is still the best looking game I've played and I was getting up to 100 fps. No excuses
@belmont they do tbf, a lot of them are easier on easy difficulty. The only way they're difficult is the hard versions of them and that's only if you want the platinum. And with the brutal and legendary combat sims the minigames are the least of the worries.
Seems like this game is just a painful experience at times. Baffles me why they make these CPU heavy games. They don't look any better, in fact they look worse and they run awfully.
@UnlimitedSevens yeah spot on tbh. Last of us and Uncharted 4 are mine too on those 2 systems. I will say Plague Tale Requiem my jaw did drop a bit though. That's the best looking game I've ever seen in person. Isn't quite the PS3 to PS4 jump though
@OldGamer999 you're right they do, but naughty dog etc do the work. Sony can't just suddenly stop production because they're not putting effort in. Especially the companies that aren't actually involved with Sony
Hopefully like plague tale this has a 60 fps mode down the line. Surely with some tweaks and the extra power of the pro it must be possible (yes I know its CPU limited)
Pro version for me. It probably won't change the frame rate too much but in 6 months it'll be pretty polished and you'll likely be able to play at a higher resolution. Or hopefully a locked 40 fps mode is implemented by then
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Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
@OldGamer999 not that im disagreeing with the prices beibg high but pro was £350 not 300 and in fairness that's nearly 500 in today's money. We don't know the price of the new pro but 500 to 600 is quite a way off double and it could easily be cheaper than 600 yet
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
@nomither6 in fairness I don't think you do. Unless you're running a 4K screen of course. I actually downgraded from a 4K to a 1440p and I can max every game out so far
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
£560 and £650 for me if there's 2 versions. If one, £549 digital.
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
@nomither6 yeah CPU will be ancient compared. That'll limit it. But much better to put the money in the GPU I guess. 4070 is upper limit, didn't want to say 4060 cause it'll be more than that. Maybe 7800xt
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
@nomither6 I mean I don't know your PC but I have a 4070 and I except it to be very close to that
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
@Waitinonpsvr2 People thought the same for the PS4 Pro. Sold out instantly. And the power is close to maxing. Because games aren't hitting 60 fps. Given the power of it and the rumoured price, they're losing money on units. Won't be dropped for a long time.
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
Just hope there is 2 different versions. Making it digital only would be the dumbest thing ever, because you won't be able to get hold of the disc drives. Then that'll stop people buying it.
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
@nomither6 it'll be better than 90-95% of people's PCs. Really isn't that substandard. It'll be equivalent to a mid to high level gaming PC, which for a console is pretty good
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
@StylesT of course they will. Some games are dropping to 720. When that's bumped up to 1440 or higher it's a huge difference
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
@Waitinonpsvr2 it'll sell out instantly. Bet by tomorrow end you can't get one if preorders are right away
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Still Planned to Release in 2024, State of Play Coming in September
@16BitHero you're right they do. But we're moving to UE5 now and those aren't doing
Re: Japan Hit with Yet Another PS5 Price Increase
@Dr_ENT financial suicide if it costs that much. They could easily price it at 549.
Re: Crash Bandicoot 5 Reportedly Cut in Favour of More Live Service Games
@Jacko11 buy yet with it being more costly it still makes money. Concord put Sony in a hole. Spiderman 2 made a fortune.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Still Planned to Release in 2024, State of Play Coming in September
@nessisonett if we're getting more and more games dropping far below 60. It's been more than tested.
Re: Crash Bandicoot 5 Reportedly Cut in Favour of More Live Service Games
@Jacko11 literally no idea where you're getting that. It's the opposite. If live service games are runaway successes they'll just make more of them instead. Concord failing and Wukong being a monster success is the best thing that's happened for Story games in ages.
Re: Square Enix Has Got Fans Talking About a Final Fantasy 13 Remake, Not a Remaster
No matter what you think of it, it's the only offline FF not playable on a new PlayStation and that's not right
Re: GTA 6 Won't Be on Subs Like PS Plus at Launch Because Take-Two Makes 'Rational' Decisions
@rjejr GTA V sold over 10 million day one and the hype for this one is way higher. 20m day one wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. It'd the most hyped game released in history
Re: Queen's Blood Confirmed for Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Sequel, CCG to Be Expanded
@trev666 perhaps but skip it. You didn't have to play one card game in the whole game to progress
Re: Poll: Is the Astro Bot PS5 Controller the Best DualSense Yet?
Missing out the FFXVI one
Re: Doubt Cast Over PS5 Pro Actually Releasing This Year
@WaveBoy as do I. 4K doesn't interest me as much any more. I've just switched from a 4K monitor to a 1440 OLED and it looks far better. But I'd love more 120hz support
Re: Doubt Cast Over PS5 Pro Actually Releasing This Year
@Coffeeglitch yup absolutely. PS4 Pro was supported pretty well. But even if they don't bother adding a specialist mode on some games, if the performance is choppy it'll smooth that out without any dev input
Re: Next Ryu Ga Gotoku Game to Be Revealed at Tokyo Game Show 2024
Keep them coming. I don't think I'll ever burn out of this series. Gotta say whilst I did still love the newest one. Hawaii didn't have the charm of Japan
Re: Doubt Cast Over PS5 Pro Actually Releasing This Year
For anyone that is saying it doesn't need to exist, games aren't maxed out. They literally are. That's why we are dropping more and more frequently under 30 fps. Potentially tripling the graphics power ensures that won't happen for 95% of games. And the PSSR sounds like a revelation. Just because you don't want one, doesn't mean the rest of us who have had their console 4 years don't. For the sake of a couple hundred quid upgrade
Re: Doubt Cast Over PS5 Pro Actually Releasing This Year
@Ajfennell77 that should be the least reason one exists
Re: Days Gone Team Apologises for 'False Hope' of PS5 Sequel After Misleading Headlines, Comments
Days gone was awesome. Never in any way a 6. The hoards were amazing. Issue was it was a bit rough on release and the reviews reflected that. Fully believe if it was reviewed now it'd score 80+
Re: PlayStation Likely to Go All-Digital By PS7, Analyst Predicts
@nomither6 they'll always be relevant because of the value. Until PCs can be bought for 400 that overpower them, there will always be a market. Plus a lot of people aren't as technically minded and just wanted a simple plug and play, and owning a gaming laptop myself they're rarely just plug and play.
Re: PlayStation Likely to Go All-Digital By PS7, Analyst Predicts
@nomither6 massively cost saving for me, thats why i still game on PS5, and I own a good laptop
Re: Final Fantasy 9 Remake Is Almost Certainly Real as Another Database Leak Appears
@Dalamar its more than likely winning game of the year. It was outstanding 😂 butchering is a rare opinion
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Swings 11 Million Sales as Sony Calls PS5 Exclusive a 'Great Success'
@0niguy as good as spiderman 1 was in the same timeframe with half the console base. Pretty big success tbh
Re: Poll: Years Later, How Do You Feel About PlayStation's PC Strategy?
Don't see the issue myself. If it was day one sure. It literally benefits us as it means sequels are more likely. Don't affect you in slightest if a game comes out in PC. It'll be 4 years for the PC port of Ragnarok. Is it that big of a deal?
Re: Sony Sings PS Portal's Praises with Accolades Trailer
Just get the ps plus streaming on it like is possible
Re: Family Friendly Level-5 Boss Would Love to Make Violent, Erotic Games
Ni no kuni 3 please that's all
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Remake Part 3 Expected to Release Around 2027, Says Square Enix
@NEStalgia gameplay is outstanding imo. You could skin this is any game and it'd have got the same reviews. I dunno why people call it milking, 12 years of full development is expensive. Given the sales aren't what's expected I doubt its made much
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Remake Part 3 Expected to Release Around 2027, Says Square Enix
@Bentleyma probably not tbh. It's been in development a while, and UE5 is power hungry. And it'll release on PS5 which rebirrh is already struggling on
Re: FF7 Rebirth's Platinum Trophy Bug to Be Fixed in Next PS5 Patch
@belmont brawler is simple if you pause. Just need to learn which animation is which putting. The sit ups were a nightmare. They're by far the hardest minigame in the game for me
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Care About 60fps on PS5?
30 fps needs to die. And for anyone who says you can't tell the difference. Pan the camera, once. If you can't tell that one feels like it's juddering and moving through tar you have issues 😂 I wouldn't mind but the 30 fps games don't look any better, in fact they look worse - look at dragons dogma. Forbidden West is still the best looking game I've played and I was getting up to 100 fps. No excuses
Re: FF7 Rebirth's Platinum Trophy Bug to Be Fixed in Next PS5 Patch
@belmont they do tbf, a lot of them are easier on easy difficulty. The only way they're difficult is the hard versions of them and that's only if you want the platinum. And with the brutal and legendary combat sims the minigames are the least of the worries.
Re: Next Like a Dragon Game Isn't Kiwami 3, But the Yakuza 3 Remake Is Happening 'Sooner or Later'
Keep them coming. I'll never tire of this franchise. Just hopefully only 1 playthrough for the platinum this time 🤣
Re: Hands On: Dragon's Dogma 2 Update Improves Frame Rate on PS5 at the Cost of Ray Tracing
Seems like this game is just a painful experience at times. Baffles me why they make these CPU heavy games. They don't look any better, in fact they look worse and they run awfully.
Re: PlayStation Fans Torn on Prospect of PS5 Pro
@UnlimitedSevens I'm not sure about extra but it was a free monthly game a couple of months ago
Re: PlayStation Fans Torn on Prospect of PS5 Pro
@UnlimitedSevens yeah spot on tbh. Last of us and Uncharted 4 are mine too on those 2 systems. I will say Plague Tale Requiem my jaw did drop a bit though. That's the best looking game I've ever seen in person. Isn't quite the PS3 to PS4 jump though
Re: PlayStation Fans Torn on Prospect of PS5 Pro
@OldGamer999 you're right they do, but naughty dog etc do the work. Sony can't just suddenly stop production because they're not putting effort in. Especially the companies that aren't actually involved with Sony
Re: PlayStation Fans Torn on Prospect of PS5 Pro
@pirlega or they want to play the PS5 only console games. I haven't played a game that was on PS4 for 6 months 🤣
Re: PlayStation Fans Torn on Prospect of PS5 Pro
@OldGamer999 one doesn't affect the other though. It isn't Sonys fault every developer is having poor output. They make the consoles not the games.
Re: PlayStation Fans Torn on Prospect of PS5 Pro
@MikeOrator tbf GTA 6 will more than likely be 30 on the Pro as well according to DF. 40 fps mode is the best option hopefully there's at least that
Re: PlayStation Fans Torn on Prospect of PS5 Pro
50% interested in it. That's far more than I expected there to be tbh
Re: Capcom Simply Must Improve Dragon's Dogma 2 PS5 Performance, Concludes Digital Foundry
@PupTwilight yup that's definitely true for this game. Should see massive improvements in others though.
Re: Big Dragon's Dogma 2 Updates Incoming as Capcom Confirms List of PS5 Improvements
Hopefully like plague tale this has a 60 fps mode down the line. Surely with some tweaks and the extra power of the pro it must be possible (yes I know its CPU limited)
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Dragon's Dogma 2?
Pro version for me. It probably won't change the frame rate too much but in 6 months it'll be pretty polished and you'll likely be able to play at a higher resolution. Or hopefully a locked 40 fps mode is implemented by then
Re: PS Portal Is Proving Everyone's Predictions Wrong
@Enigk see then it'd be useful. I'd happily play on the couch with one if others were using the TV. It's still a great experience