I watched this trailer trying to decide if it was Phantom Blade 0, Tides of Annilation, Lost Soul Aside or Wucgang Fallen Feathers. Turns out it wasn't any of those. Does every game on PS5 just unreal engine now or is every game just trying to look like Elden Ring?
To be fair why wife thinks every game looks like Ghost of Tsushima so it might just be me.
I also think Switch 2 games all look like GameCube games so maybe my brain is just broken and trying to find context for things? ðĐ
I'm hoping Sonic Racing is my Goldilocks spot between too pay to win Disney Speedstorm w/ it's really nice gameplay, Mario Kart World w/ it's GameCube graphics and weird control scheme, and Kirby Air Riders which looks like no one over 30 need apply. ðĪ
Pre-show > show ð (that goes doubly for the hosts)
I could see me attempting to play this and getting blocked around level 15.ð
Agree w/ all the article comparisons. It's a game that looks like fun personified. As long as it isn't too difficult. It's on the list. I'll never remember the name though. Maybe "When Train Attacks". ð
Anyone else think it's weird all of the start times on here are at the top of the hour but the official Gamescon website, unless I'm being fooled by an unofficial one, is at the bottom of the hour or 1/2 hour?
@ShogunRok Watched the YT video review last night w/ the missus while we were catching up on all the game trailers that look Ike Stellar Blade meets Elden Ring and I was wondering if that was you talking or someone else and was whoever it is just reading this review? While it takes my wife and I a bit to get past the accent, very lovely, she said the talking seemed a bit off, like someone who wasn't comfortable talking into a mic. Though reading this review now I'm thinking maybe it sounded that way b/c someone, you or someone else, wasn't talking, they were reading? Hard to sound natural reading, especially if it's someone else's words, throws off the feeling and the tempo. Thanks.
Game looks interesting, but at only 3 hours I'm not buying it. Not even paying $15 for a month of PS+ Extra like I did when PLucky Squire came out. But it looks good. ð
Isn't there always a September show from these companies to promote their holiday games? Guess, rumor, leak, it's September, something is probably being shown.ðĪ·ââïļ
I'm not as anti AI as I probably should be, but if they are stealing people's faces and literally putting words into their mouths I have a serious problem with that. If the "content creators" signed their soul away for a few $ well I feel it would be hypocritical of me to be pro SW and anti soul selling so they can do what they want.
Government's probably should start making laws preventing AI from looking human at the very least though. If they want to use AI to advertise use a talking rat, not something human looking. It's inevitable in movies and fictional TV programming but it shouldn't be faking real humans in ads, sports or the news. It probably will, but it shouldn't.
@Fatewalker OK thanks, I'll skip those 2 then. Thought about playing the added co-op in Captain Toad Treasure Tracker on Switch 2 but I forgot we own that on Wii U. Nintendo mocks me yet again.
@Fatewalker Thanks. I am unfamiliar with Little Nightmares. Probably b/c it has nightmares in the title and that isn't my thing, but I'll look into them if couch co-op is involved.
I remember discuss this w/ Sammy about a month ago and Honest Trailers just put one up for it in the past few days. Looking forward to watching it, and the HT, after my next go round w/ NF, whenever they get around to releasing season 4 of The Witcher.
I'm pretty sure it's Capitalism that makes game devs wage slaves, not Game Pass.ðĪ
Not Sony though, no wage slaves there, just a whole lot of people Sony paid to make multi-player games, then cancelled the games, then fired the employees.
I don't really like when games that run on a system all of a sudden stop running on a system, but it will be 5 years in November since the PS5 launched, historically that's an entire console generation, so it's not like they pulled it soon after release.
So it probably does suck for some people but it's also understandable.
I mean surely it has to make that release date in the middle of 2026 after saying it was due out in 2025.
My guess is they picked May b/c they really thought it would be ready by March but they realized their guesses are always wrong so they picked May, basically having the March delay announcement already built in. I mean how do you go from 2025 to May?
So I'm guessing it goes "gold" in March, which these days means late alpha or early beta, and thry gave a couple of months of Day 1 patches to be ready for Day 1. Basically the game will double in size on Day 1. Or just replace itself with the update.
Anyway, I think it releases in May. If not, people should be fired.
Having to grind the characters w/ the daily gift limit sounds out of place in a full priced game. I played on Apple Arcade w/ a free month and never got to finish b/c time ran out, don't think I could go through all of that again.
Is the game currently up to date? Switch released with a few of the later sections missing and they got added in later.
Skipped not E3, may watch a little of not E3 but in German while I eat my lunch since it's my lunch time, but I'm not expecting much.
Are there no famous Germans who can lead a live German show in German w/ some poorly YT generated subtitles? If it's GK again it jyst feels like the same show we had 2 months ago. At least the holiday show is an "awards" show. How many game trailers does this guy need to get very excited for in 1 summer? ðĪŠ
@Haruki_NLI @8thDoctor That was sort of my reaction as well. Sony may be on their PS1-PS2 era in anime but worldwide it feels a bit past that to me. I know Manga had a huge growth spurt during COVID - print is not dead - and gas slowed down while still growing, I'm assuming anime has a similar trajectory. Still growing, but the Crunchy roll explosion is probably more linear than exponential now. Though Sony owns it so I guess they know better. Still feels later than earlier though but I suppose Sony has money to make yet.
@themightyant If people just want to play Fortnite, CoD or sports games they can buy a PC or an Xbox. But it seems to me a lot of people choose PS over PC and Xbox b/c they want the exclusives available only on PS.
Now this doesn't mean you only play those games. I'm a PS and Nintendo gamer, no PC or Xbox, and I buy that hardware b/c of the single player exclusives, but like 90% of my time is spent playing Fortnite and other free games. Not b/c I like them more, but b/c I'm still waiting for Wolverine to release. I mean get a release date, I mean show a trailer.ð Nintendo I only play 1st party games on b/c I'm pretty sure that's why that hardware exists. ð
So yes, most hours and dollars (euros, pounds, etc) spent on PS gaming are on sports games, CoD and GTAV b/c that's what people do in between the 1 short game a year Sony releases - GoW, HZd/FW, Spiderman, Uncharted, Ghost. But if Sony didn't have that 1 game a year more people would probably play on Xbox or PC, and I'd just play whatever on Nintendo. Or Apple Arcade if need be.
I mean sure, some people are buying Sony hardware only for Destiny 2, or Minecraft, or FF14, but I still think the 1st party exclusives are a big draw. The problem is there aren't enough of those any more b/c of the 5 year dev cycle, so Sony went all in on live service, failed miserably, Helldivers as the big exception, and are now trying to figure it out.
How many big single player games has Sony canceled the past 5 years? Is there a big list like this chronicling it? Sony knows they can cancel all of these live service games b/c they know people are buying their hardware for the other games, not these. When they start canceling all their single player exclusives and fully commit to live service then yes, it's all about that. But they might as well give up their hardware then as well, PC, and Nintendo, win.
@TrollOfWar A car can be a thing you drive yourself around in as an adult, but it's also a thing your parents drive you around in as a kid.
I think sports games have live service attributes but I still think people can buy them and play them single player or maybe just with a friend. Live service still seems to be a thing unto itself. All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares and such.
@sanderson72 PS2 will continue to sell as long as need be.ð
Don't know about the extra million PS4, but I do feel like Sony, "the company that knows generations", showed off PS5 w/ several games like GoW and HFW that sort of seemed like they were pushing next gen exclusivity, b/c they know generations, when they weren't. So, I'm guessing PS6 maybe off to a slow start while the cheaper PS5 keeps selling to play all the same games. Sony knows money, not generations.
PS6 is going to be the PS4 Pro Pro Pro Pro (I just need 1 PS4 game to release after it launches ðĪĢ)
New $70 sports games come out every year though, does less than a year of support qualify as a long period of time?
Not saying a game needs to be free to start, the $40 games are fine, but it's really about the timeline for me. Fortnite, PUBG, Overwatch, Destiny. These games launched and the devs said "you'll be playing these FOR YEARS". Games like AC, Tomb Raider, Witcher 3, to me they're built for day 1 base game, story fragments later.
Maybe I need to update my perspective but I'm not ready to call every game that has a 1 time $20 dlc live service or GaaS. Do people even say free-to-play or free-to-start anymore? I've been trying to get "$60-to-start" to be a thing for years just for CoD but sadly it hasn't caught on. ð DLC, microtransactions, season passes, it's fluid.
Mario Kart 8 DX on Switch started as the Deluxe complete edition of a Wii U game. Like 5 years after it released they added a 2 year long season pass. It released as a complete game, years later it became live service. Fluid.
And therein lies the rub. ð I think we agree on most things, probably even this. I'm always up for being proven wrong, being so negative all of the time is such a drag, and I'm just going to add a couple of more things.
First, and sort of on topic, the 5 year dev cycle you mentioned is killing me. Or at least my joy in gaming.ðĐ Had an hour long dinner conversation with my kids last night about the good old days of gaming, the PS2 years. I'm a graphics first guy so my glory days rarely go back earlier than that though my gaming goes back to Pong. We were talking mostly about Jak & Daxter and Ratchet and Clank. PS2 had like 3 each of those games. PS3 had several R&C. PS4 had a movie reboot. PS5 1 game. That's all we really get the past 2 gens, 1 game every gen coupled w/ some dual ports.
I'm very graphic focused, I don't like pixels or HD-2D, but Dreamcast, GameCube and PS2 were good enough. I'd settle for those if I could get a new game every 2-3 years. FF7,8,9 released 3yrs in a row.ð
Second and more on topic. Variety is good. But it should be natural growth. It really feels like Sony put some of these devs on the path to life service. Games are art, they shouldn't be dictated by management. Also management shouldn't have purchased so many live service games knowing their core audience is single player focused. Make those games, collect your 30% from the others. But no, they had to get greedy, and even including Helldivers I'm betting it cost them. I'd say they lost this generation but w/ MS doing MS things, well,they're still OK.
@Jey887 After reading the comments and the article again, and yant's reply, looks like I was probably wrong, that's 1st party revenue. A lot of it maybe from Helldivers and MLB The Show. Somebody wondered if that includes PS+ subs but surely that has to be a separate category. But who knows, it's all corporate speak and statistics, 2 things that should never go together.ð
@ZeroSum Thanks, that my viewpoint as well. Sports games are really the antithesis of "live service" as they get a new full priced game every year where live service games run 3 or 5 or more. I feel like Minecraft is either or, no seasons but the dlc is constant. And despite several spinoff and new engines it's basically been just Minecraft. Even Destiny is on 2.
@themightyant If 40% of Sony's first party revenue "for the quarter" was microtransactiins maybe that's in part due to them not having any new1st party games that quarter? That's half joking, half serious. I'm sure they had some new game sales but I feel like digital transactions are the way to make money. But in established games, not new live service. Though I suppose eventually they'll get their Fortnite or Genshin Impact. But at what cost?
@themightyant Tried to find the best I can PS4 sales after PS5 launched. Looks like PS4 had 113m in Nov 2020 and finished at 117 so you are correct, only about 4mil PS4 sold after PS5 launched.
I think w/ the price PS6 will be, and I think Sony will do a lot less creative marketing w/ PS6 like they did w/ OS5 when it looked like a lot of games would be PS5 exclusively before the PS4 versions were officially announced, I think another 5 mil could be doable. So we'll have to see where PS5 is when PS6 launches. Having just waited 8 years or Switch 2 who knows when that will be. Does look like an uphill climb w/o a big price cut though. Which isn't happening in current world economics
@themightyant I'll grant you Helldivers, but are MLB the Show and Gran Turismo really considered to be live service games? In my head they are both single player games that have multi-player components. I consider live service to be really online only w/ maybe some tutorial single player. Or maybe my brain just sees sports games as their own thing.
Could you tell reading any of this if that 40% was actually from their own games? I assumed it was from games like Fortnite and the Gatcha games and all the other games they get a cut from like GTA online. You know, the money they would still be making from live service even if they never made one themselves. If 40% of their revenue is from their own games like Helldivers and the Show more power to them.
I still have to think they've lost more money on their live service push w/ all the money they've spent acquiring games and companies then they've made on Helldivers. I'm still not considering sports fame w/ micro transactions as live service, though maybe in the future I will. In the future where every game is a free trial to start before the floodgates open. Disney Speedstorm is insane. ðĪ
So I watched the entire 8 minute trailer and I saw what seemed to be turn based game play around the 4 minute mark, for a few seconds, which is when I lost interest in playing the game.
The fan fiction aspect of mixing G Gundam and Godzilla Singular Point is enticing, just have a feeling playing it would bore me. If it was an action fighting game I think I'd be in.
G Gundam needs a DragonBall type fighting game to cover the series. Probably exists somewhere in Japan. Or maybe not since no one seems to like it but me. At least the main characters show up in several of the mosou games. Too bad this isn't 1 of those.
@sanderson72 @PuppetMaster "The question is will PS5 reach or surpass PS4 117 million units before PS6 release?"
I think the question isn't "before" PS6 releases, it's well after PS6 releases, you can probably almost say before PS7 releases. With PS5 costing what it does, $400 give or take, and the Pro costing $700, the PS6 won't be cheap. And looking at dual PS4-PS5 releases, I'm guessing most PS6 fames will also be on PS5. So if PS6 is +$500, and Sony drops PS5 to $300, they may still get a few million more PS5 sales after PS6 launches.
Unless $500 PS6 dual drops w/ $400 PS6 Portable and everyone buys that instead of a cheap PS5.
I still think 120 mil is doable. Price and the PS6 launch date will factor in.
Wow, November 1st, that seems really long, but I suppose the calendar is flying by. This past season for the first time in years I didn't reach level 100, maxed out at 92, mostly b/c gold was nearly impossible to find.ðĪ
Looking forward to the bugs, MMPR, and Halo. 3,700 vbux ready to go. ð
Is it just me or do several upcoming games have the same "look"? This, Tides of Annilation, the recent Clair Obscur, the Lies of P dlc (not sure if it released yet) that Elden Ring game.
I know the games themselves look different, Clair Obscur had some color, but the marketing stills all have the same gray Unreal engine look to me. Oh and Stellar Blade. Not sure if it's a Chinese game thing or a PS5 4k game thing, or my eyes are just going bad thing but my brain is reading it as a trend.
Not all games obviously, Astrobot exists unto itself, GTA has its own look, just a bunch of them. That remind me of 1886 The Order.ðĪ·ââïļ
@AverageGamer That does add a wrinkle to my thinking, thanks. I've only ever spent $8 on Fortnite once years ago to buy the self refilling pass, I had PSN store credit, haven't spent any money on the numerous other free to start games I've played, so I suppose I never examined the differences that closely.
So I may actually be on to something that Nintendo doesn't like Gatcha games. Well at least until they figure out how to make money from it themselves.ðĪ
@Dyomun Thanks. I am aware it's following on from 1, at least that's what I've read, but I haven't seen anything about whether it ends the story or not. The entire game could just be setup for a grand finale fame in another 5 years or so after this one releases.
If the story doesn't end when this game does I'm not playing it.
"We certainly wouldn't say that this is a Cyberpunk 2077 situation, but that's the kind of positive turnaround that Bethesda could be aiming for."
Comparing it to Cyberpunk? If only there was another grand ambitions space faring game that didn't live up to expectations at launch that spent the next few years improving itself to the point where people actually like it now. Oh well, what are the odds of there being another game like that? ð
I suppose no Switch 2 version then. Would look weird if they started supporting it now on Switch 2 after saying PS4 simply can't run it. Though maybe no PS4 means they have more resources to devote to Switch 2? Would still be a bad look though.
I still feel like Nintendo has something against Hoyoverse. And it's not just the Gatcha as Switch 2 has Fortnite and Disney Speedstorm. But no Hoyoverse after all these years, after THRY said GI was coming to Switch way back in 2020, makes me put on my tinfoil hat.
Bummer for the PS4 players. I hate when stuff gets dropped like that, but I suppose it was going to happen sooner or later. Maybe Sony will have some decent holiday sales on PS5.
Power Rangers is a nice change up, feels like we've been stuck in a Star Wars superhero loop for awhile now. I know MMPR are just more superheros but at least it feels a little different. Waiting until mid-September for that Megazord is going to feel like forever.
I might be interested in this enough to try it out on Switch 2, which I think is still rocking the PS4 graphics. Might get me through a weekend in a hotel though dropping the kid back off at college. I just couldn't om the Switch, it was unplayable for me.
As much as I'm not a fan of the narrators voice I do think his description in the Direct helps a little in explaining this game. It starts at 16:23 in case I didn't copy it right. Don't think I'd play it solo but I'll give it a go w/ the missus.
Edit: Yup, forgot to click the box again. Maybe now.
Infinity Nikki had a better season this time w/ 1.8, I'm hoping 2.0 in a couple of months is the next big 100 JRPG game segment. That's enough. Switch 2 & MKW should be here in 3 1/2 hours. DKB tomorrow.ð
Maybe in couch co-op the 2nd player only controls the horse? That would still be a lot more co-op then Nintendo offers in a lot of their 2 player couch co-op games.ð
It could still be single player based story w/ the 2nd player just following. I know we aren't supposed to talk about Knack but both games had couch co-op, the 2nd game more than the first. See also about half a dozen Skylanders games.
I'm more curious if they are going to finish the story from the first game. Haven't played it in a decade but I recall it ending sort of on a cliffhanger to set up the 2nd game. I'll play it, solo or co-op, if the story ends. Otherwise I won't.
@Kiefer-Sutherland Thanks. Maybe if this 1 looks good I'll go back and play them all. If I can find them. Not sure what system I have them on. My brain is telling me Wii U but I doubt that's right. If it's PS3, well my console isn't hooked up and we don't have a single fully functioning controller. Possibly PS+ but I think that was 3. Maybe I won't.ð
Really enjoyed tye first game, it was great. Only played the first half of 2nd when it became more of a shooter. Didn't p,ay tye 3rd at all b/c Soulslikes. Played a little of the spinoff games but barely recall any of it.
If they could somehow make a sequel to the first game, similar to the first game, that would be great. But I'm not holding my breath.
If they make a handheld that plays discs that would be amazing. ð
I'm probably done w/ new consoles after my Switch 2 arrives on Monday, so I'm all for PS5 getting dual releases the next few years. There really is hardly any reason for new hardware unless you need all your games to be photo realistic.
Past gen consoles served a purpose.
PS-PS2 gave us 3D from 2D, the last great leap PS2-PS3 gave us HD TV PS3-PS4 gave us FauxK PS4-PS5 gave us 4K Does PS6 need 8K?
How many 8k tvs are out there? There's hardly any 4K streaming content out there. Cable is dead. OTA is HD. I'm not sure how much noticeable difference there even is on a TV sized screen. A portable does not need to do 8k.
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Re: Swords of Legends Will Try to Be the Next Black Myth: Wukong on PS5
I watched this trailer trying to decide if it was Phantom Blade 0, Tides of Annilation, Lost Soul Aside or Wucgang Fallen Feathers. Turns out it wasn't any of those. Does every game on PS5 just unreal engine now or is every game just trying to look like Elden Ring?
To be fair why wife thinks every game looks like Ghost of Tsushima so it might just be me.
I also think Switch 2 games all look like GameCube games so maybe my brain is just broken and trying to find context for things? ðĐ
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Gets Pac-Man DLC, Open Beta Test Next Week on PS5, PS4
I'm hoping Sonic Racing is my Goldilocks spot between too pay to win Disney Speedstorm w/ it's really nice gameplay, Mario Kart World w/ it's GameCube graphics and weird control scheme, and Kirby Air Riders which looks like no one over 30 need apply. ðĪ
Re: Denshattack Is a PS5 Game About Tricking Trains Like They're Skateboards, Looks Sick as Hell
Pre-show > show ð (that goes doubly for the hosts)
I could see me attempting to play this and getting blocked around level 15.ð
Agree w/ all the article comparisons. It's a game that looks like fun personified. As long as it isn't too difficult. It's on the list. I'll never remember the name though. Maybe "When Train Attacks". ð
Re: What Time Is Gamescom Opening Night Live 2025?
Anyone else think it's weird all of the start times on here are at the top of the hour but the official Gamescon website, unless I'm being fooled by an unofficial one, is at the bottom of the hour or 1/2 hour?
https://www.gamescom.global/en
Re: Sword of the Sea (PS5) - Stunning Journey-Like Is a PS Plus Extra Hall of Famer
@ShogunRok Watched the YT video review last night w/ the missus while we were catching up on all the game trailers that look Ike Stellar Blade meets Elden Ring and I was wondering if that was you talking or someone else and was whoever it is just reading this review? While it takes my wife and I a bit to get past the accent, very lovely, she said the talking seemed a bit off, like someone who wasn't comfortable talking into a mic. Though reading this review now I'm thinking maybe it sounded that way b/c someone, you or someone else, wasn't talking, they were reading? Hard to sound natural reading, especially if it's someone else's words, throws off the feeling and the tempo. Thanks.
Game looks interesting, but at only 3 hours I'm not buying it. Not even paying $15 for a month of PS+ Extra like I did when PLucky Squire came out. But it looks good. ð
Re: 'Maybe a PS Showcase, Probably a State of Play': Sony Plotting PS5 Livestream for Late September
Isn't there always a September show from these companies to promote their holiday games? Guess, rumor, leak, it's September, something is probably being shown.ðĪ·ââïļ
Re: Meltdowns on Social Media As Sony Markets Its Upcoming Xbox Port
I'd be more impressed if you found a story on Twitter that wasn't negative. ð
Re: Last Chance to Get These 15+ PS5, PS4 Games in PS Store's Weekend Offer
Solid list of games, in that I've heard of all of them. A lot of these sales lately I'm scrambling just to find games I'm familiar with.
Probably not buying any right now, my backlog has reached capacity in my brain, but it's a decent list w/ some potential for later on.
Re: Shameful AI Ads Put the Spotlight on The First Descendant
I'm not as anti AI as I probably should be, but if they are stealing people's faces and literally putting words into their mouths I have a serious problem with that. If the "content creators" signed their soul away for a few $ well I feel it would be hypocritical of me to be pro SW and anti soul selling so they can do what they want.
Government's probably should start making laws preventing AI from looking human at the very least though. If they want to use AI to advertise use a talking rat, not something human looking. It's inevitable in movies and fictional TV programming but it shouldn't be faking real humans in ads, sports or the news. It probably will, but it shouldn't.
Re: Cute Co-Op Puzzle Platformer LEGO Voyagers Comes to PS5, PS4 in September
@Fatewalker OK thanks, I'll skip those 2 then. Thought about playing the added co-op in Captain Toad Treasure Tracker on Switch 2 but I forgot we own that on Wii U. Nintendo mocks me yet again.
Re: Cute Co-Op Puzzle Platformer LEGO Voyagers Comes to PS5, PS4 in September
@Fatewalker Thanks. I am unfamiliar with Little Nightmares. Probably b/c it has nightmares in the title and that isn't my thing, but I'll look into them if couch co-op is involved.
Re: Don't Believe the Speculation About PS5's Fairgames Getting Cancelled
How could they have cancelled it, it hasn't been out for 2 weeks yet?ð
Maybe Pachter means they cancelled Fairgame$ and he thinks Fairgames is a different game b/c Pachter is an idiot?ðĪ·ââïļ
Re: Sony Made a Massive Mistake with Movie Sensation K-Pop Demon Hunters
I remember discuss this w/ Sammy about a month ago and Honest Trailers just put one up for it in the past few days. Looking forward to watching it, and the HT, after my next go round w/ NF, whenever they get around to releasing season 4 of The Witcher.
Re: Astoundingly Ambitious PS5 RPG Crimson Desert Looks Like It'll Ease the Wait for The Witcher 4
Naming your clan Druken Black Bears is a choice. Especially when Cocaine Bears is right there. ð
I'll watch this one on the big sfreen later. Haven't been paying attention, title made me think it was a tank war game.ðĪ·ââïļ
Re: Deals: Stack Your PS5, PS4 Savings with a 5% Off PS Store Discount Code
10% off $100 PSN credit at Newegg in the US since we're talking sales. Code: SSAEVAA22
Only 18 hours left.
https://www.newegg.com/playstation-100-00/p/N82E16832886063
Re: Cute Co-Op Puzzle Platformer LEGO Voyagers Comes to PS5, PS4 in September
Looks like a fun little game to play with my wife. Added to my wishlist.
Re: The Outrageously Over-the-Top Fast & Furious Arcade Game Is Coming to PS5
@MFTWrecks Thanks,added Cruisn Blast to my wishlist. MKW has left me wanting, and looking forward to Sonic. Not this though.ð
Re: Xbox Game Pass May Make Devs 'Wage Slaves', Says Ex-PlayStation Exec
I'm pretty sure it's Capitalism that makes game devs wage slaves, not Game Pass.ðĪ
Not Sony though, no wage slaves there, just a whole lot of people Sony paid to make multi-player games, then cancelled the games, then fired the employees.
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2025/01/lists-of-sonyrs-cancelled-live-service-ps5-games-paint-a-worrying-picture
Wage slave > unemployed b/c your bosses are idiots
Re: Another Live Service Game Is Killing Off PS4 Support
I don't really like when games that run on a system all of a sudden stop running on a system, but it will be 5 years in November since the PS5 launched, historically that's an entire console generation, so it's not like they pulled it soon after release.
So it probably does suck for some people but it's also understandable.
Re: Will GTA 6 Be Delayed Again? CEO Plays It Safe with His Answer
I mean surely it has to make that release date in the middle of 2026 after saying it was due out in 2025.
My guess is they picked May b/c they really thought it would be ready by March but they realized their guesses are always wrong so they picked May, basically having the March delay announcement already built in. I mean how do you go from 2025 to May?
So I'm guessing it goes "gold" in March, which these days means late alpha or early beta, and thry gave a couple of months of Day 1 patches to be ready for Day 1. Basically the game will double in size on Day 1. Or just replace itself with the update.
Anyway, I think it releases in May. If not, people should be fired.
Re: Mini Review: Hello Kitty Island Adventure (PS5) - Purrfectly Cosy, Slightly Clawed
Having to grind the characters w/ the daily gift limit sounds out of place in a full priced game. I played on Apple Arcade w/ a free month and never got to finish b/c time ran out, don't think I could go through all of that again.
Is the game currently up to date? Switch released with a few of the later sections missing and they got added in later.
Re: Next Resident Evil Requiem Reveal at Gamescom 2025 Showcase
Dante's looking good these days. ð
Re: When Is Gamescom Opening Night Live 2025?
How many Geoff Keighly clones are there?
Skipped not E3, may watch a little of not E3 but in German while I eat my lunch since it's my lunch time, but I'm not expecting much.
Are there no famous Germans who can lead a live German show in German w/ some poorly YT generated subtitles? If it's GK again it jyst feels like the same show we had 2 months ago. At least the holiday show is an "awards" show. How many game trailers does this guy need to get very excited for in 1 summer? ðĪŠ
Re: Sony Likens Its Fledgling Anime Business to the PS1 Era
@Haruki_NLI @8thDoctor That was sort of my reaction as well. Sony may be on their PS1-PS2 era in anime but worldwide it feels a bit past that to me. I know Manga had a huge growth spurt during COVID - print is not dead - and gas slowed down while still growing, I'm assuming anime has a similar trajectory. Still growing, but the Crunchy roll explosion is probably more linear than exponential now. Though Sony owns it so I guess they know better. Still feels later than earlier though but I suppose Sony has money to make yet.
Re: Sony Admits PS5 Live Service Push Is Not Going Smoothly
@themightyant If people just want to play Fortnite, CoD or sports games they can buy a PC or an Xbox. But it seems to me a lot of people choose PS over PC and Xbox b/c they want the exclusives available only on PS.
Now this doesn't mean you only play those games. I'm a PS and Nintendo gamer, no PC or Xbox, and I buy that hardware b/c of the single player exclusives, but like 90% of my time is spent playing Fortnite and other free games. Not b/c I like them more, but b/c I'm still waiting for Wolverine to release. I mean get a release date, I mean show a trailer.ð Nintendo I only play 1st party games on b/c I'm pretty sure that's why that hardware exists. ð
So yes, most hours and dollars (euros, pounds, etc) spent on PS gaming are on sports games, CoD and GTAV b/c that's what people do in between the 1 short game a year Sony releases - GoW, HZd/FW, Spiderman, Uncharted, Ghost. But if Sony didn't have that 1 game a year more people would probably play on Xbox or PC, and I'd just play whatever on Nintendo. Or Apple Arcade if need be.
I mean sure, some people are buying Sony hardware only for Destiny 2, or Minecraft, or FF14, but I still think the 1st party exclusives are a big draw. The problem is there aren't enough of those any more b/c of the 5 year dev cycle, so Sony went all in on live service, failed miserably, Helldivers as the big exception, and are now trying to figure it out.
How many big single player games has Sony canceled the past 5 years? Is there a big list like this chronicling it? Sony knows they can cancel all of these live service games b/c they know people are buying their hardware for the other games, not these. When they start canceling all their single player exclusives and fully commit to live service then yes, it's all about that. But they might as well give up their hardware then as well, PC, and Nintendo, win.
https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/sonys-live-service-game-status-report-canceled-released-shut-down/2900-6143/
Re: Sony Admits PS5 Live Service Push Is Not Going Smoothly
@TrollOfWar A car can be a thing you drive yourself around in as an adult, but it's also a thing your parents drive you around in as a kid.
I think sports games have live service attributes but I still think people can buy them and play them single player or maybe just with a friend. Live service still seems to be a thing unto itself. All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares and such.
https://www.mashupmath.com/blog/is-a-square-a-rectangle
Re: PS5 Console Sales Surpass 80 Million Milestone, Closing in on PS3
@sanderson72 PS2 will continue to sell as long as need be.ð
Don't know about the extra million PS4, but I do feel like Sony, "the company that knows generations", showed off PS5 w/ several games like GoW and HFW that sort of seemed like they were pushing next gen exclusivity, b/c they know generations, when they weren't. So, I'm guessing PS6 maybe off to a slow start while the cheaper PS5 keeps selling to play all the same games. Sony knows money, not generations.
PS6 is going to be the PS4 Pro Pro Pro Pro (I just need 1 PS4 game to release after it launches ðĪĢ)
https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/new-ps4-games-release-dates-in-2025
Re: Sony Admits PS5 Live Service Push Is Not Going Smoothly
@TrollOfWar " over a certain long period of time"
New $70 sports games come out every year though, does less than a year of support qualify as a long period of time?
Not saying a game needs to be free to start, the $40 games are fine, but it's really about the timeline for me. Fortnite, PUBG, Overwatch, Destiny. These games launched and the devs said "you'll be playing these FOR YEARS". Games like AC, Tomb Raider, Witcher 3, to me they're built for day 1 base game, story fragments later.
Maybe I need to update my perspective but I'm not ready to call every game that has a 1 time $20 dlc live service or GaaS. Do people even say free-to-play or free-to-start anymore? I've been trying to get "$60-to-start" to be a thing for years just for CoD but sadly it hasn't caught on. ð DLC, microtransactions, season passes, it's fluid.
Mario Kart 8 DX on Switch started as the Deluxe complete edition of a Wii U game. Like 5 years after it released they added a 2 year long season pass. It released as a complete game, years later it became live service. Fluid.
Re: Sony Admits PS5 Live Service Push Is Not Going Smoothly
@themightyant " once established "
And therein lies the rub. ð I think we agree on most things, probably even this. I'm always up for being proven wrong, being so negative all of the time is such a drag, and I'm just going to add a couple of more things.
First, and sort of on topic, the 5 year dev cycle you mentioned is killing me. Or at least my joy in gaming.ðĐ Had an hour long dinner conversation with my kids last night about the good old days of gaming, the PS2 years. I'm a graphics first guy so my glory days rarely go back earlier than that though my gaming goes back to Pong. We were talking mostly about Jak & Daxter and Ratchet and Clank. PS2 had like 3 each of those games. PS3 had several R&C. PS4 had a movie reboot. PS5 1 game. That's all we really get the past 2 gens, 1 game every gen coupled w/ some dual ports.
I'm very graphic focused, I don't like pixels or HD-2D, but Dreamcast, GameCube and PS2 were good enough. I'd settle for those if I could get a new game every 2-3 years. FF7,8,9 released 3yrs in a row.ð
Second and more on topic. Variety is good. But it should be natural growth. It really feels like Sony put some of these devs on the path to life service. Games are art, they shouldn't be dictated by management. Also management shouldn't have purchased so many live service games knowing their core audience is single player focused. Make those games, collect your 30% from the others. But no, they had to get greedy, and even including Helldivers I'm betting it cost them. I'd say they lost this generation but w/ MS doing MS things, well,they're still OK.
Re: Sony Admits PS5 Live Service Push Is Not Going Smoothly
@Jey887 After reading the comments and the article again, and yant's reply, looks like I was probably wrong, that's 1st party revenue. A lot of it maybe from Helldivers and MLB The Show. Somebody wondered if that includes PS+ subs but surely that has to be a separate category. But who knows, it's all corporate speak and statistics, 2 things that should never go together.ð
@ZeroSum Thanks, that my viewpoint as well. Sports games are really the antithesis of "live service" as they get a new full priced game every year where live service games run 3 or 5 or more. I feel like Minecraft is either or, no seasons but the dlc is constant. And despite several spinoff and new engines it's basically been just Minecraft. Even Destiny is on 2.
@themightyant If 40% of Sony's first party revenue "for the quarter" was microtransactiins maybe that's in part due to them not having any new1st party games that quarter? That's half joking, half serious. I'm sure they had some new game sales but I feel like digital transactions are the way to make money. But in established games, not new live service. Though I suppose eventually they'll get their Fortnite or Genshin Impact. But at what cost?
Re: PS5 Console Sales Surpass 80 Million Milestone, Closing in on PS3
@themightyant Tried to find the best I can PS4 sales after PS5 launched. Looks like PS4 had 113m in Nov 2020 and finished at 117 so you are correct, only about 4mil PS4 sold after PS5 launched.
I think w/ the price PS6 will be, and I think Sony will do a lot less creative marketing w/ PS6 like they did w/ OS5 when it looked like a lot of games would be PS5 exclusively before the PS4 versions were officially announced, I think another 5 mil could be doable. So we'll have to see where PS5 is when PS6 launches. Having just waited 8 years or Switch 2 who knows when that will be. Does look like an uphill climb w/o a big price cut though. Which isn't happening in current world economics
Re: Sony Admits PS5 Live Service Push Is Not Going Smoothly
@themightyant I'll grant you Helldivers, but are MLB the Show and Gran Turismo really considered to be live service games? In my head they are both single player games that have multi-player components. I consider live service to be really online only w/ maybe some tutorial single player. Or maybe my brain just sees sports games as their own thing.
Could you tell reading any of this if that 40% was actually from their own games? I assumed it was from games like Fortnite and the Gatcha games and all the other games they get a cut from like GTA online. You know, the money they would still be making from live service even if they never made one themselves. If 40% of their revenue is from their own games like Helldivers and the Show more power to them.
I still have to think they've lost more money on their live service push w/ all the money they've spent acquiring games and companies then they've made on Helldivers. I'm still not considering sports fame w/ micro transactions as live service, though maybe in the future I will. In the future where every game is a free trial to start before the floodgates open. Disney Speedstorm is insane. ðĪ
Thanks, gave me something to think about.ð
Re: Sony Admits PS5 Live Service Push Is Not Going Smoothly
I think "not entirely going smoothly" was general Custer's assessment of the Battle at Little Big Horn. ð
Re: Anime Crossover RPG Super Robot Wars Y Snags PS5 Demo, Progress Carries to Full Game
So I watched the entire 8 minute trailer and I saw what seemed to be turn based game play around the 4 minute mark, for a few seconds, which is when I lost interest in playing the game.
The fan fiction aspect of mixing G Gundam and Godzilla Singular Point is enticing, just have a feeling playing it would bore me. If it was an action fighting game I think I'd be in.
G Gundam needs a DragonBall type fighting game to cover the series. Probably exists somewhere in Japan. Or maybe not since no one seems to like it but me. At least the main characters show up in several of the mosou games. Too bad this isn't 1 of those.
Re: PS5 Console Sales Surpass 80 Million Milestone, Closing in on PS3
@sanderson72 @PuppetMaster "The question is will PS5 reach or surpass PS4 117 million units before PS6 release?"
I think the question isn't "before" PS6 releases, it's well after PS6 releases, you can probably almost say before PS7 releases. With PS5 costing what it does, $400 give or take, and the Pro costing $700, the PS6 won't be cheap. And looking at dual PS4-PS5 releases, I'm guessing most PS6 fames will also be on PS5. So if PS6 is +$500, and Sony drops PS5 to $300, they may still get a few million more PS5 sales after PS6 launches.
Unless $500 PS6 dual drops w/ $400 PS6 Portable and everyone buys that instead of a cheap PS5.
I still think 120 mil is doable. Price and the PS6 launch date will factor in.
Re: Outer Banks Star Madelyn Cline Has Exceptional Video Game Taste
Is Outer Banks the new The O.C.? Not sure who she is but she unironically owns a shirt that says "I'm not Sydney Sweeney" on it.ð
The first PS5 game my library had on the shelf was Returnal. Still not interested.ðĪ·ââïļ
Re: Halo, Power Rangers Headline Helldivers 2 Tinged Fortnite Season on PS5, PS4
Wow, November 1st, that seems really long, but I suppose the calendar is flying by. This past season for the first time in years I didn't reach level 100, maxed out at 92, mostly b/c gold was nearly impossible to find.ðĪ
Looking forward to the bugs, MMPR, and Halo. 3,700 vbux ready to go. ð
Re: Lost Soul Aside Shouldn't Be Delayed Anymore, PS5 Game Goes Gold
Is it just me or do several upcoming games have the same "look"? This, Tides of Annilation, the recent Clair Obscur, the Lies of P dlc (not sure if it released yet) that Elden Ring game.
I know the games themselves look different, Clair Obscur had some color, but the marketing stills all have the same gray Unreal engine look to me. Oh and Stellar Blade. Not sure if it's a Chinese game thing or a PS5 4k game thing, or my eyes are just going bad thing but my brain is reading it as a trend.
Not all games obviously, Astrobot exists unto itself, GTA has its own look, just a bunch of them. That remind me of 1886 The Order.ðĪ·ââïļ
Re: Free-to-Play Juggernaut Genshin Impact Is Delisting and Shutting Down PS4 Version
@AverageGamer That does add a wrinkle to my thinking, thanks. I've only ever spent $8 on Fortnite once years ago to buy the self refilling pass, I had PSN store credit, haven't spent any money on the numerous other free to start games I've played, so I suppose I never examined the differences that closely.
So I may actually be on to something that Nintendo doesn't like Gatcha games. Well at least until they figure out how to make money from it themselves.ðĪ
Re: PS5 Sequel Darksiders 4 Has Online and Split-Screen Co-Op, By the Way
@Dyomun Thanks. I am aware it's following on from 1, at least that's what I've read, but I haven't seen anything about whether it ends the story or not. The entire game could just be setup for a grand finale fame in another 5 years or so after this one releases.
If the story doesn't end when this game does I'm not playing it.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Starfield Is Getting Some Hefty Gameplay Reworks for Its PS5 Release
"We certainly wouldn't say that this is a Cyberpunk 2077 situation, but that's the kind of positive turnaround that Bethesda could be aiming for."
Comparing it to Cyberpunk? If only there was another grand ambitions space faring game that didn't live up to expectations at launch that spent the next few years improving itself to the point where people actually like it now. Oh well, what are the odds of there being another game like that? ð
Re: Free-to-Play Juggernaut Genshin Impact Is Delisting and Shutting Down PS4 Version
I suppose no Switch 2 version then. Would look weird if they started supporting it now on Switch 2 after saying PS4 simply can't run it. Though maybe no PS4 means they have more resources to devote to Switch 2? Would still be a bad look though.
I still feel like Nintendo has something against Hoyoverse. And it's not just the Gatcha as Switch 2 has Fortnite and Disney Speedstorm. But no Hoyoverse after all these years, after THRY said GI was coming to Switch way back in 2020, makes me put on my tinfoil hat.
Bummer for the PS4 players. I hate when stuff gets dropped like that, but I suppose it was going to happen sooner or later. Maybe Sony will have some decent holiday sales on PS5.
Re: Power Rangers Are Coming to Fortnite, And You Absolutely Must Watch the Reveal Trailer
Power Rangers is a nice change up, feels like we've been stuck in a Star Wars superhero loop for awhile now. I know MMPR are just more superheros but at least it feels a little different. Waiting until mid-September for that Megazord is going to feel like forever.
I might be interested in this enough to try it out on Switch 2, which I think is still rocking the PS4 graphics. Might get me through a weekend in a hotel though dropping the kid back off at college. I just couldn't om the Switch, it was unplayable for me.
Re: Cute Co-Op Game Hela Puts Mice on PS5 in 2026
As much as I'm not a fan of the narrators voice I do think his description in the Direct helps a little in explaining this game. It starts at 16:23 in case I didn't copy it right. Don't think I'd play it solo but I'll give it a go w/ the missus.
Edit: Yup, forgot to click the box again. Maybe now.
https://www.youtube.com/live/gZoLrfLcIVg?si=EduC2dM-OPzbZJp-&t=983
Re: Got Time in Your Life for Another PS5 Gacha? Here's How Arknights: Endfield Looks
Short answer no.
Long answer no.
Infinity Nikki had a better season this time w/ 1.8, I'm hoping 2.0 in a couple of months is the next big 100 JRPG game segment. That's enough. Switch 2 & MKW should be here in 3 1/2 hours. DKB tomorrow.ð
Re: PS5 Sequel Darksiders 4 Has Online and Split-Screen Co-Op, By the Way
Maybe in couch co-op the 2nd player only controls the horse? That would still be a lot more co-op then Nintendo offers in a lot of their 2 player couch co-op games.ð
It could still be single player based story w/ the 2nd player just following. I know we aren't supposed to talk about Knack but both games had couch co-op, the 2nd game more than the first. See also about half a dozen Skylanders games.
I'm more curious if they are going to finish the story from the first game. Haven't played it in a decade but I recall it ending sort of on a cliffhanger to set up the 2nd game. I'll play it, solo or co-op, if the story ends. Otherwise I won't.
Re: Darksiders 4 May Finally Be PS5's Answer to Classic Zelda
@Kiefer-Sutherland Thanks. Maybe if this 1 looks good I'll go back and play them all. If I can find them. Not sure what system I have them on. My brain is telling me Wii U but I doubt that's right. If it's PS3, well my console isn't hooked up and we don't have a single fully functioning controller. Possibly PS+ but I think that was 3. Maybe I won't.ð
Re: Rumour: Starfield PS5 to Take Flight Alongside New Expansion Next Year
Maybe they're just waiting to get it up and running on Switch 2 to announce them both at once?ðĪ·ââïļ
No I don't think it will run on Switch 2 but I didn't think Cyberpunk would either but it does so there's that.
Re: Darksiders 4 May Finally Be PS5's Answer to Classic Zelda
Really enjoyed tye first game, it was great. Only played the first half of 2nd when it became more of a shooter. Didn't p,ay tye 3rd at all b/c Soulslikes. Played a little of the spinoff games but barely recall any of it.
If they could somehow make a sequel to the first game, similar to the first game, that would be great. But I'm not holding my breath.
Re: Rumour: Leaked PS6 Specs Reveal Affordable, Power Efficient Next-Gen Console
"Backwards compatible with PS5 and PS4"
If they make a handheld that plays discs that would be amazing. ð
I'm probably done w/ new consoles after my Switch 2 arrives on Monday, so I'm all for PS5 getting dual releases the next few years. There really is hardly any reason for new hardware unless you need all your games to be photo realistic.
Past gen consoles served a purpose.
PS-PS2 gave us 3D from 2D, the last great leap
PS2-PS3 gave us HD TV
PS3-PS4 gave us FauxK
PS4-PS5 gave us 4K
Does PS6 need 8K?
How many 8k tvs are out there? There's hardly any 4K streaming content out there. Cable is dead. OTA is HD. I'm not sure how much noticeable difference there even is on a TV sized screen. A portable does not need to do 8k.
So I'm good.