At this point MS is still just trying to make Gamepass awesome. The actual negative effects don’t come until later when the platform starts treating users like Netflix treats its users.
They are in too deep into existing FF7 lore. Remake’s storytelling — especially at the end — was clearly for those who knew FF7 in and out and would notice and appreciate deviations. I had to look stuff up. While I liked the game’s opening I found the final act confusing and not very enjoyable. I was a bit relieved when it was all over and I am not eager to go back. That said, I only played FF7 once 20 years ago and now I am much more likely to buy the original when it’s on sale for $8.
@claytortot213 agreed. I mean it could for a game, but a PS5 GPU is something like a 2080 Super, not a 3090 TI. It’s going to be amazing and for most people the easiest way to get high end VR.
I hope they add FreeSync support in a future update. HDMI 2.1 is still sparse. I bought a brand new 1440p Gsync/FreeSync HDMI 2.0 monitor and would love to hook a PS5 to it. At least they keep making it better so maybe one day it’ll happen.
@Sil_Am (1) Sony could sell it at a profit. (2) Also they can just expect that a large percentage of the user base would not do that but would stick to PS5. (3) The approach I describe would be similar to Sony’s current PC strategy and would help grow the userbase to achieve economies of scale. It’s like when Apple finally allowed Window users to use iTunes and use iPods without a Mac.
@naruball discretionary money is discretionary money. 🤷♂️
There are a lot of comments about how for the price people could buy a different platform like a Steam Deck, a Switch, XSX or Series S. That resonates.
I would get it if it worked on PCs as well. I think VR is still hobbyist tech and I don’t want to pay over $500 to be locked into one VR ecosystem. That said, hardware looks pretty awesome and I want to play it.
@ShogunRok I have two questions that are just curiosity (1) in the original PC release there was a stutter whenever you did an all-out attack. Is that present? And (2) what’s the resolution for the PS4 version?
Seems pretty simple. The games are running two different codebases similar to Minecraft Java vs Bedrock. And only one version is getting the update. The only real thing to fuss over is why did PS4 not get the new codebase. And the answer is probably money.
Finishing Lego Builder’s Journey. Playing Persona 5 Royal very slowly (third time playing the game, but first time on the Switch). On PS5 I am very focused on Horizon Forbidden West. It’s delightful. I am not finding the story as compelling as the first Horizon, but the characters, world, graphics, gameplay, and just overall experience are imo so much better. I am going to be playing this one for a while.
Also, I may be hallucinating but I swear the Ps4 version used to do custom music on the PS5 homescreen and now it just does the default game music. I hope they fix that back. The PS5 defaults are so boring — I want custom themes or devs step it up.
That said, this was a fantastic game and I need a sequel.
@Kidfunkadelic83 consider trying god mode. I don’t like roguelikes and I play most games in story/easy mode. Hades was a blast and god mode helped me get to the end.
When 3d cgi cartoons started being successful in the early 2000s Disney abandoned hand drawn animation for it. We learned later part of the reason for that was morale and talent retention: many of their people wanted to work on the new exciting trends in animation. I can imagine the devs being pretty excited to work with 2 year old hardware instead of 10 year old hardware and now is the perfect chance. Base game upgrade to PS5 is free, stock issues abating, PS5s are starting to show up in stores, this is just DLC, gives Guerilla and their Decima team a chance to work on a modern platform. Seems like a win for everyone.
I have played the Ps4 version on my PS5 for almost 300 hours. If I pay for it again, it would be for a mobile platform (Switch), a timeless platform (Steam), or both (Steam Deck).
Didn’t vote cause I didn’t see a match. I am not ready to buy at launch. I need to see more. Hardware looks pretty good. I would like PC support or more known exclusives.
Alt title “most PushSquare poll respondants want 60fps on PS5”.
Let’s not pretend that people visiting this site are representative of the entire cross section of Playstation users. Plus, even here, most people think 60fps is about graphics alone so to them they would rather have dialed back graphics than 60fps. But that’s not always the deal. It could be about physics, level design, or the underlying engine processes (eg UE5). It would be good to help the readership understand that.
Poll didn’t have the option I wanted. I am fine with obviously optimized, upscaled, clearly next gen titles running at 30-40fps — especially if it’s not an action/twitchy game.
I want 60fps in almost all games and I think that’s a reasonable standard. 60fps beats 4k or slightly better fidelity.
@ShogunRok thank you for that very detailed, thoughtful answer. I don’t have the dlc. Definitely going to have to buy this again for Steam or Switch. But only after P3P which I have been wanting to play for years.
It wouldn’t surprise me if performance patches come out over the next few months so it’s hard to get worked up about this. Makes me want to upgrade my tv though…
@Darylb88 i mean.. not everyone has those platforms? I really enjoyed playing P5R on my OLED. The art just pops. If there was a save transfer I would get this — the bundled DLC and the 60fps upgrade would be worth it for me especially on sale. But Steam seems my future for P5 especially since save games in Steam are pretty much forever.
@ShogunRok Things I am wondering (1) it sounds like they also added a feature where different costumes trigger different battle music. (2) differences between platforms
@Flaming_Kaiser let me try again: The next Playstation will likely not have PS4 BC so to keep my save I have to keep and maintain a PS4/5 to be able to use my save file. 20 years from now whatever pc I own will run Steam and the save game files will just work.
I am so excited. Probably getting the Steam or Switch versions. The thing I really wanted from Atlus is a cloud-based save transfer system. I have 300 hours of P5R locked on Playstation and I worry that will go away once backwards compat is gone. That won’t be an issue on Steam. Switch has the same problem as Playstation but it’s portable. Maybe I need a Steam Deck. Sigh.
For people not familiar with child development, Astro is a difficult game for this age range. It requires a lot of hand-eye coordination, patience, and focus. So, she did really good.
Again, most people on this site aren’t the audience for the remaster so it isn’t surprising most aren’t interested. It’s for their future players, their own satisfaction, etc.
Eh. It’s an interesting strategy. I think most of the concern under the surface here is that Sony would be giving something up to do this. That it would take time and attention away from making something else and most people here are fine with the game as-is. and would prefer all attention on making something new.
(1) I think Twitter comments from random people should generally be ignored (2) I think it’s awesome for game devs to educate gamers on their process and support each other.
This looks like a good product, but it’s really otherworldly to see Sony dabbling with expensive devices like VR and uber controllers while also jacking up the price of the base system. 2022 Sony messaging is so opposite of the PS4 messaging which was making an affordable system that was great at playing games for everyone.
Well, they made physical a worse experience. It’s like digital except you also have to put the disk in whenever you want to play and the disk drive makes extra noise sporadically. The prices for most games are similar. I would rather pay $5 more and increase the likelihood that I will play the game then it just sitting on a shelf. Either way — digital or not — I still have to install the day 1 patch and then the new new new update that fixes the gamebreaking bugs.
I am in the middle. I think a small upgrade fee is fine BUT they better offer the option to move your save data. These games take forever — blessing and curse — and having sunk 300 hours with no way to move save data is not great. And I am currently betting that isn’t a feature they are supporting.
Unclear what it offers, but I am more likely to pick up the Steam/Deck or Switch version. Portable Persona is a feature I want most. That said, I love P5R so maybe? I haven’t bought all the DLC ($20) yet, so waiting to see what the new version offers…
I wouldn’t read too much into this site. Maybe try emailing Atlus West for questions?
(1) Also, the main thing I want for P4G is they need to fix the stutter at the beginning of all out attacks. I have a very decent gaming pc and it doesn’t matter— there is just constant stutter in the current Steam version.
(2) If Atlus wants to make a native PS5 version of P5R that’s great, but I will hope they will make a save data transfer and make the upgrade free or at least cheap.
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Re: Microsoft Can't Deny Xbox Game Pass Cannibalises Software Sales
At this point MS is still just trying to make Gamepass awesome. The actual negative effects don’t come until later when the platform starts treating users like Netflix treats its users.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Remake Producer Says Narrative Changes 'Necessary' to Keep Players Interested
They are in too deep into existing FF7 lore. Remake’s storytelling — especially at the end — was clearly for those who knew FF7 in and out and would notice and appreciate deviations. I had to look stuff up. While I liked the game’s opening I found the final act confusing and not very enjoyable. I was a bit relieved when it was all over and I am not eager to go back. That said, I only played FF7 once 20 years ago and now I am much more likely to buy the original when it’s on sale for $8.
Re: PS5's PSVR2 Outperforming Monster PC Rigs, Is the Pinnacle of Virtual Reality
@claytortot213 agreed. I mean it could for a game, but a PS5 GPU is something like a 2080 Super, not a 3090 TI. It’s going to be amazing and for most people the easiest way to get high end VR.
Re: PS5 Firmware Update Beta Invites Discord to the Party
I hope they add FreeSync support in a future update. HDMI 2.1 is still sparse. I bought a brand new 1440p Gsync/FreeSync HDMI 2.0 monitor and would love to hook a PS5 to it. At least they keep making it better so maybe one day it’ll happen.
Re: Sony Cuts PSVR2 Launch Sale Estimates by Half, New Report Claims
@Sil_Am (1) Sony could sell it at a profit. (2) Also they can just expect that a large percentage of the user base would not do that but would stick to PS5. (3) The approach I describe would be similar to Sony’s current PC strategy and would help grow the userbase to achieve economies of scale. It’s like when Apple finally allowed Window users to use iTunes and use iPods without a Mac.
@naruball discretionary money is discretionary money. 🤷♂️
Re: Sony Cuts PSVR2 Launch Sale Estimates by Half, New Report Claims
There are a lot of comments about how for the price people could buy a different platform like a Steam Deck, a Switch, XSX or Series S. That resonates.
Re: Sony Cuts PSVR2 Launch Sale Estimates by Half, New Report Claims
I would get it if it worked on PCs as well. I think VR is still hobbyist tech and I don’t want to pay over $500 to be locked into one VR ecosystem. That said, hardware looks pretty awesome and I want to play it.
Re: Rumour: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for February 2023 Leaked Early
Olliolli world would be awesome.
Re: Persona 4 Golden (PS4) - An Utterly Engrossing RPG, and That's the Truth
Thank you for the review! I love this game. It’s great to see more people be able to play it
Re: Persona 4 Golden (PS4) - An Utterly Engrossing RPG, and That's the Truth
@ShogunRok I have two questions that are just curiosity (1) in the original PC release there was a stutter whenever you did an all-out attack. Is that present? And (2) what’s the resolution for the PS4 version?
Re: New PS5, PS4 Games This Week (16th January to 22nd January)
Oh man. Persona 3 and 4. I would preorder them if that was an option.
Re: Trails from Zero on PS4 Misses Out on New Improvements Coming to PC, Switch
Seems pretty simple. The games are running two different codebases similar to Minecraft Java vs Bedrock. And only one version is getting the update. The only real thing to fuss over is why did PS4 not get the new codebase. And the answer is probably money.
Re: The Last Guardian, Shadow of the Colossus Legend Aiming for 2023 Announcement
He has my support.
Re: Persona 3 Portable Trophies on PS4 Ask You to Beat the Game Twice
P4 and P5 are made to be played multiple times. Is this surprising? I find NG+ playthroughs often the most fun.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Xmas 2022 Edition
Finishing Lego Builder’s Journey. Playing Persona 5 Royal very slowly (third time playing the game, but first time on the Switch). On PS5 I am very focused on Horizon Forbidden West. It’s delightful. I am not finding the story as compelling as the first Horizon, but the characters, world, graphics, gameplay, and just overall experience are imo so much better. I am going to be playing this one for a while.
Re: TMNT: Shredder's Revenge PS5, PS4 Patch Notes Are More Hype Than Pepperoni Pizza
This is a fantastic game. More sounds awesome.
Also, I may be hallucinating but I swear the Ps4 version used to do custom music on the PS5 homescreen and now it just does the default game music. I hope they fix that back. The PS5 defaults are so boring — I want custom themes or devs step it up.
That said, this was a fantastic game and I need a sequel.
Re: Trails into Reverie Concludes the Cold Steel Saga in July 2023 for PS5, PS4
@NEStalgia lol. I finished TOCS3 and now I am trying Sky 1 and 2 before 4. Ugh. It’s a great problem to have!
Re: Hades 2 Announced, But No PS5, PS4 Confirmation Yet
@Kidfunkadelic83 consider trying god mode. I don’t like roguelikes and I play most games in story/easy mode. Hades was a blast and god mode helped me get to the end.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West DLC Takes Aloy to the Burning Shores Only on PS5
When 3d cgi cartoons started being successful in the early 2000s Disney abandoned hand drawn animation for it. We learned later part of the reason for that was morale and talent retention: many of their people wanted to work on the new exciting trends in animation. I can imagine the devs being pretty excited to work with 2 year old hardware instead of 10 year old hardware and now is the perfect chance. Base game upgrade to PS5 is free, stock issues abating, PS5s are starting to show up in stores, this is just DLC, gives Guerilla and their Decima team a chance to work on a modern platform. Seems like a win for everyone.
Re: PS5 Games Likely to Remain $70 as Xbox Bumps Prices
Games launching at $70 is fine.
Re: Fortnite's Graphics Get a Huge Next-Gen Upgrade on PS5
Wait. 60fps Ue5 with Lumen? I am confused. That would be a significant advancement if true.
Re: Goodbye Volcano High Reappears in New Trailer, Coming Summer 2023
It’s weird and I like it. I think it should probably target Steam not Playstation, but not gonna argue.
Re: See How Persona 5 Royal on PS5 Compares in Latest Digital Foundry Tech Test
I have played the Ps4 version on my PS5 for almost 300 hours. If I pay for it again, it would be for a mobile platform (Switch), a timeless platform (Steam), or both (Steam Deck).
Re: God of War Ragnarok Is Now Sony's Highest Rated PS5 Game
Not sure why Astro is rated so low… that game was amazing
Re: Poll: Will You Pay the PSVR2 Launch Price?
Didn’t vote cause I didn’t see a match. I am not ready to buy at launch. I need to see more. Hardware looks pretty good. I would like PC support or more known exclusives.
Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure Has Proven Very Unpopular on PC
Had no idea it was on pc. Also, I wonder how well platformers sell on PC?
Re: PS5 Players Don't Want to See 60fps Die Out
Alt title “most PushSquare poll respondants want 60fps on PS5”.
Let’s not pretend that people visiting this site are representative of the entire cross section of Playstation users. Plus, even here, most people think 60fps is about graphics alone so to them they would rather have dialed back graphics than 60fps. But that’s not always the deal. It could be about physics, level design, or the underlying engine processes (eg UE5). It would be good to help the readership understand that.
Re: Poll: Do You Care About 60fps on PS5?
Poll didn’t have the option I wanted. I am fine with obviously optimized, upscaled, clearly next gen titles running at 30-40fps — especially if it’s not an action/twitchy game.
I want 60fps in almost all games and I think that’s a reasonable standard. 60fps beats 4k or slightly better fidelity.
Re: Mini Review: Persona 5 Royal (PS5) - Still One of the Best JRPGs Ever Made, Despite PS4 Disrespect
@ShogunRok thank you for that very detailed, thoughtful answer. I don’t have the dlc. Definitely going to have to buy this again for Steam or Switch. But only after P3P which I have been wanting to play for years.
Re: A Plague Tale: Requiem Caps Out at Just 30fps on PS5, 40fps on 120hz TVs
It wouldn’t surprise me if performance patches come out over the next few months so it’s hard to get worked up about this. Makes me want to upgrade my tv though…
Re: Mini Review: Persona 5 Royal (PS5) - Still One of the Best JRPGs Ever Made, Despite PS4 Disrespect
@Darylb88 i mean.. not everyone has those platforms? I really enjoyed playing P5R on my OLED. The art just pops. If there was a save transfer I would get this — the bundled DLC and the 60fps upgrade would be worth it for me especially on sale. But Steam seems my future for P5 especially since save games in Steam are pretty much forever.
Re: Mini Review: Persona 5 Royal (PS5) - Still One of the Best JRPGs Ever Made, Despite PS4 Disrespect
@ShogunRok Things I am wondering (1) it sounds like they also added a feature where different costumes trigger different battle music. (2) differences between platforms
Re: Persona Fans on PlayStation Get Sold Short Again as Xbox Deal Reveals Native Ports
This headline could be less clickbait focused:
New title using language from the article: “Only BC for Persona 3 and 4, but “in truth, this could well be a non-issue.”
Re: Persona 3 Portable, Persona 4 Golden Get January 2023 Release Date on PS4
@Flaming_Kaiser let me try again: The next Playstation will likely not have PS4 BC so to keep my save I have to keep and maintain a PS4/5 to be able to use my save file. 20 years from now whatever pc I own will run Steam and the save game files will just work.
Re: Persona 3 Portable, Persona 4 Golden Get January 2023 Release Date on PS4
I am so excited. Probably getting the Steam or Switch versions. The thing I really wanted from Atlus is a cloud-based save transfer system. I have 300 hours of P5R locked on Playstation and I worry that will go away once backwards compat is gone. That won’t be an issue on Steam. Switch has the same problem as Playstation but it’s portable. Maybe I need a Steam Deck. Sigh.
Re: Six-Year-Old Celebrates After Conquering Astro's Playroom on PS5
For people not familiar with child development, Astro is a difficult game for this age range. It requires a lot of hand-eye coordination, patience, and focus. So, she did really good.
Re: Talking Point: We Need to Discuss This Horizon Zero Dawn PS5 Remaster
@GreatAuk lol I know you FEEL that way but their sales dept thinks otherwise.
Re: Talking Point: We Need to Discuss This Horizon Zero Dawn PS5 Remaster
Again, most people on this site aren’t the audience for the remaster so it isn’t surprising most aren’t interested. It’s for their future players, their own satisfaction, etc.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster for PS5 Reportedly in Development
Eh. It’s an interesting strategy. I think most of the concern under the surface here is that Sony would be giving something up to do this. That it would take time and attention away from making something else and most people here are fine with the game as-is. and would prefer all attention on making something new.
Re: Random: Developers Unite After Viral Take Gets the Meme Treatment
(1) I think Twitter comments from random people should generally be ignored (2) I think it’s awesome for game devs to educate gamers on their process and support each other.
Re: Adorable RPG The Outbound Ghost Set to Haunt Your Console This November
Could be amazing. It looks polished and so I remain cautiously hopeful.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for September 2022 Leaked
Yay! Toem looks great!
Re: Here's Everything Included in the PS5 DualSense Edge Controller Package
This looks like a good product, but it’s really otherworldly to see Sony dabbling with expensive devices like VR and uber controllers while also jacking up the price of the base system. 2022 Sony messaging is so opposite of the PS4 messaging which was making an affordable system that was great at playing games for everyone.
Re: New Persona 5 Royal PS5 Trailer Tells Us Nothing About the Remaster
Have it on Ps4. More interested in a portable version for a second purchase. I would replay it more.
Re: Immediate Backlash as Sony Asks Players About Purchasing NFTs
I mean if by NFT they mean not that but PS5 themes… then I support NFTs. Lol.
Re: Nearly 80% of All PS5, PS4 Games Are Bought Digitally
Well, they made physical a worse experience. It’s like digital except you also have to put the disk in whenever you want to play and the disk drive makes extra noise sporadically. The prices for most games are similar. I would rather pay $5 more and increase the likelihood that I will play the game then it just sitting on a shelf. Either way — digital or not — I still have to install the day 1 patch and then the new new new update that fixes the gamebreaking bugs.
Re: PS5 Folders, 1440p Support Part of New Beta Update Out Today
Awesome! It’s nice to see things headed in a good direction.
Re: Soapbox: No Free PS5 Upgrade for Persona 5 Royal Is an Insult to Fans and the Game Itself
I am in the middle. I think a small upgrade fee is fine BUT they better offer the option to move your save data. These games take forever — blessing and curse — and having sunk 300 hours with no way to move save data is not great. And I am currently betting that isn’t a feature they are supporting.
Re: No Free PS4 to PS5 Upgrade Path for Persona 5 Royal
Unclear what it offers, but I am more likely to pick up the Steam/Deck or Switch version. Portable Persona is a feature I want most. That said, I love P5R so maybe? I haven’t bought all the DLC ($20) yet, so waiting to see what the new version offers…
Re: PS4 Versions Only for Persona 4 Golden, Persona 3 Portable
I wouldn’t read too much into this site. Maybe try emailing Atlus West for questions?
(1) Also, the main thing I want for P4G is they need to fix the stutter at the beginning of all out attacks. I have a very decent gaming pc and it doesn’t matter— there is just constant stutter in the current Steam version.
(2) If Atlus wants to make a native PS5 version of P5R that’s great, but I will hope they will make a save data transfer and make the upgrade free or at least cheap.