“Hey, should we finish up all that DLC we had in the works for Destiny 2, since it IS the only actual revenue we have right now? Or should we bet everything on Marathon and abandon Destiny 2 without having a backup plan?”
…that didn’t work out well. Maybe someday Bungie will become the Bungie of old again, but sadly today is not that day.
@AdamNovice Hard disagree. Killing Concord was the most self-aware thing Sony had done since…well, green-lighting Concord.
Rewriting history by saying they didn’t give it time to get a player base is interesting. It COMPLETELY BOMBED at launch to the point that it was barely possible to get a match going. It got a MAXIMUM of 697 people playing on Steam.
It made Highguard look like a roaring success. The only game Concord has outperformed is Dustborn.
@AdamNovice It worked for Concord! Except this time Sony can actually save time by not charging and refunding everyone a week after it crashes and burns.
@get2sammyb I’m just saying that “critically acclaimed” is kind of meaningless at this point. All the reviewers praised Veilguard and yet it bombed spectacularly.
Marathon also being critically acclaimed is equally meaningless, especially with the amount of money Sony still has yet to recoup from the Bungie sale and the cost of developing Marathon. They might break even around the same time Disney breaks even from their purchase of Star Wars at this point…
Live service is either a license to print money or a giant flaming car wreck. Sometimes it’s incredibly obvious beforehand (Concord, Highguard, etc) it’s a car wreck, sometimes it isn’t.
All I know is, live service games other than MMORPGs (and even then, only WoW and FF14 ever got me in for the long haul) are and have been mostly irrelevant to me. I’m one of those psychos who prefers games like Ghost of Tsushima, Final Fantasy, Persona and the like over the Fortnites/Apex Legends/etc. I enjoy the occasional Helldivers 2 match, but that’s mostly it.
Here’s hoping Sony can finally grasp that they need to actually feed people like me as well as the live service sloppa.
Do I like that I need it to play online? Absolutely not. Plus I barely play online other than the occasional FF14 resub or monthly game of Helldivers 2. And technically I don’t even need Plus for FF14.
Do I like the monthly games? Absolutely. I’ve gotten some good gems from it.
Do I hate that cloud saves are locked behind PS Plus? Also absolutely.
I don’t have Essential for the online access. I have it for the cloud saves and the monthly games.
@Old-Red I’m one of those outliers who couldn’t care less about online play in general, but I’ve had a consistent PS Plus essential (before it was called essential) since the halcyon days of the PS3.
@Balaam_ …why did you bother? You don’t have to do any of it to get the platinum. Unless one’s brain cannot leave trophies untrophied it’s very simple to not engage with content one has no interest in.
I just platinumed GoY about fifteen minutes ago, and somehow I was able to stop myself from doing a new game or touch the multiplayer.
@Jay767 Happy for you. I have zero interest in an extraction shooter, or supporting Marathon-In-Name-Only.
Bungie screwed us over by removing content I’d paid for in Destiny 2, so they get no more money from me for this. Congrats on enjoying current game, though.
So…if I’m reading this right, you play as an abusive guy tries to reunite with girl he abused but she’s in love with another woman and moves on from him.
Tell me you don’t like the developer of this game without telling me you don’t like the developer of this game.
That said, there is a place for old-school fantasy designs. This is one of them. Not every game has to have MUH BULKY FUNCTIONAL ARMOR, this is clearly fantasy and getting upset over it is rather hilarious given the glowing reviews of other games with similarly decorative outfits.
“This is just the beginning of our post-release support that will end with this because we’re pretty much doomed due to a coordinated negativity campaign.”
You can truly tell in these comments who grew up before everyone had internet and those who grew up with it and somehow believe it or servers will never go away/become inaccessible.
I think MS has seen that its games have a market on PS, and doesn’t want to let that revenue go…but at be same time, they need to have SOME exclusives or there’s just no reason to even own an Xbox beyond greater backwards compatability.
I’m glad to see Team Green remembering that they’re a game console company first and foremost. Hopefully they do well! Maybe the Series X will remain my first but not my last XBox. Time will tell!
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Re: Only GTA 6 Stands a Chance of Outdoing GTA 5's Unbelievable 230 Million Units Sold
As this article mentions, it was released across three console generations.
PS3, PS4, PS5, XBox 360, XBox One, Series S/X. And PC.
The PS5/Series X versions were $10 at launch.
Is anyone surprised this game has sold that much? Rockstar has been milking it since 2013.
Re: Bungie Is Not Making Destiny 3, Dev to Be Rocked by 'Significant' Layoffs
“Hey, should we finish up all that DLC we had in the works for Destiny 2, since it IS the only actual revenue we have right now? Or should we bet everything on Marathon and abandon Destiny 2 without having a backup plan?”
…that didn’t work out well. Maybe someday Bungie will become the Bungie of old again, but sadly today is not that day.
Re: Talking Point: Sony, Don't Re-Reveal Fairgames at the Next State of Play
@AdamNovice Hard disagree. Killing Concord was the most self-aware thing Sony had done since…well, green-lighting Concord.
Rewriting history by saying they didn’t give it time to get a player base is interesting. It COMPLETELY BOMBED at launch to the point that it was barely possible to get a match going. It got a MAXIMUM of 697 people playing on Steam.
It made Highguard look like a roaring success. The only game Concord has outperformed is Dustborn.
Sony did a mercy kill on Concord.
Re: Talking Point: Sony, Don't Re-Reveal Fairgames at the Next State of Play
@AdamNovice It worked for Concord! Except this time Sony can actually save time by not charging and refunding everyone a week after it crashes and burns.
Re: Talking Point: Sony, Don't Re-Reveal Fairgames at the Next State of Play
If Sony throws this steaming pile into the state of play, they deserve every single bit of the mockery they will receive for doing so.
Re: Sony Trademarks New PS5 Game 'Break In', Registers Several Social Media Accounts
You can change the name, but you can’t change the game.
Dead on arrival.
Re: We Have to Talk About Live Service, After Heavy Rain Dev's Online Gambit Is Scrapped
@get2sammyb I’m just saying that “critically acclaimed” is kind of meaningless at this point. All the reviewers praised Veilguard and yet it bombed spectacularly.
Marathon also being critically acclaimed is equally meaningless, especially with the amount of money Sony still has yet to recoup from the Bungie sale and the cost of developing Marathon. They might break even around the same time Disney breaks even from their purchase of Star Wars at this point…
Re: We Have to Talk About Live Service, After Heavy Rain Dev's Online Gambit Is Scrapped
@get2sammyb Dragon Age Veilguard was also critically acclaimed. A “return to form for BioWare” if memory serves.
Just saying.
Re: We Have to Talk About Live Service, After Heavy Rain Dev's Online Gambit Is Scrapped
I don’t need to talk about it, but I will.
Live service is either a license to print money or a giant flaming car wreck. Sometimes it’s incredibly obvious beforehand (Concord, Highguard, etc) it’s a car wreck, sometimes it isn’t.
All I know is, live service games other than MMORPGs (and even then, only WoW and FF14 ever got me in for the long haul) are and have been mostly irrelevant to me. I’m one of those psychos who prefers games like Ghost of Tsushima, Final Fantasy, Persona and the like over the Fortnites/Apex Legends/etc. I enjoy the occasional Helldivers 2 match, but that’s mostly it.
Here’s hoping Sony can finally grasp that they need to actually feed people like me as well as the live service sloppa.
Re: 'PS5 Is for the Payers': Just 18% Think PS Plus Essential Is Good Value for Money in 2026
Do I like that I need it to play online? Absolutely not. Plus I barely play online other than the occasional FF14 resub or monthly game of Helldivers 2. And technically I don’t even need Plus for FF14.
Do I like the monthly games? Absolutely. I’ve gotten some good gems from it.
Do I hate that cloud saves are locked behind PS Plus? Also absolutely.
I don’t have Essential for the online access. I have it for the cloud saves and the monthly games.
@Old-Red I’m one of those outliers who couldn’t care less about online play in general, but I’ve had a consistent PS Plus essential (before it was called essential) since the halcyon days of the PS3.
Re: Free on Xbox, PS5 Owners Made to Pay $10 for New Darksiders Upgrade
Well, I can safely skip this.
Re: LEGO Batman: Legacy of the Dark Knight (PS5) - Brick Gaming at Its Joyful Best
My copy actually arrives today, thanks to Walmart selling the deluxe version for the same price as the regular.
Hopefully there’ll be a patch waiting for me, or possibly tomorrow! Makes me wonder how the Switch 2 version will run.
Re: 'Looks Like We Got Sucker Punched': Ghost of Yotei Fans Gutted Support Has Ended for Free Co-Op Mode
@Balaam_ …why did you bother? You don’t have to do any of it to get the platinum. Unless one’s brain cannot leave trophies untrophied it’s very simple to not engage with content one has no interest in.
I just platinumed GoY about fifteen minutes ago, and somehow I was able to stop myself from doing a new game or touch the multiplayer.
Re: PS5 Will Reveal the Most Played Games with Steam-Like Player Numbers
Hm. Where’s Marathon on that list?
Re: Round Up: Forza Horizon 6 Pulls Incredible Launch Reviews, PS5 Version Still to Come
@HRdepartment How dare this site report on the release and reviews of a game that’s coming to PS5 in a few months!
Re: Saros PS5 Sales Estimates at 300k, Selling Slower Than Returnal on a Bigger Install Base
I disliked Returnal. I don’t need More Slightly Different Returnal With More Unlikable Main Character.
To each their own.
Re: No One Noticed Intergalactic's Hidden Naughty Dog Easter Egg
…ha. Ha. Ha. Naughty Dog folks are such cards. I am slapping my knees in mirth at their wit.
Re: Why Is Everyone Acting So Weird About PS5 Game Mixtape?
Tongue kiss scene. With presumed minors.
That alone creeps me the hell out. No thanks.
Re: Third Patch for Starfield PS5 Crashing Issues Coming Next Week
Three patches to stop crashing issues.
Three.
Bethesda just doesn’t care. They never have.
Re: Bungie Was a $765 Million Thorn in Sony's Side in 2025
@Jay767 Happy for you. I have zero interest in an extraction shooter, or supporting Marathon-In-Name-Only.
Bungie screwed us over by removing content I’d paid for in Destiny 2, so they get no more money from me for this. Congrats on enjoying current game, though.
Re: Bungie Was a $765 Million Thorn in Sony's Side in 2025
Amazing how Bungie went from making the best games to…this.
Re: Stranger Than Heaven Is a Yakuza Series Origin Story, Out on PS5 This Winter
@Yor-sama Guess I’ll just have to buy both the PS and XBox releases to make up for your lack of interest.
Me, I’m there day one.
Re: MindsEye Saga Hits a New Low as Mass Layoffs Cripple PS5 Flop's 'Comeback'
Surely, SURELY this will spell success for the masterpiece that is MindsEye. SURELY.
Re: If This PS5 Kaiju Game Doesn't Drop to 10fps, Then Frankly the Dev Has Failed
…telling us this is from the folks who utterly botched the GTA trilogy release doesn’t exactly make my interest rise.
Re: Incredible RPGs Trails from Zero, Trails to Azure Announced for 4K, 120fps PS5 Release This Fall
…well, guess I’m a moron for having played these both late last year.
Re: Sony's Not Pulling the Plug on Horizon Hunters Gathering, New PS5 and PC Beta Test Announced
@glennthefrog Sadly, it is. And she has an artificial leg.
The jokes write themselves, but I probably shouldn’t make them here.
Re: Sony's Not Pulling the Plug on Horizon Hunters Gathering, New PS5 and PC Beta Test Announced
Yay, the sunk cost fallacy in action once again!
Re: PS5's LEGO Batman Rivals the Arkham Classics in IP Love Letter
@AverageGamer Perhaps “the best Batman game that most people have actually played” would be more accurate?
Re: Preview: PS5's LEGO Batman Rivals the Arkham Classics in IP Love Letter
So basically, the best Batman/Batman related game in the last decade. (Not that this is a high bar to clear.)
I’m sold.
Re: Fake Saros PS5 Story Details Are Circulating Online - Here's What Actually Happens
@IOI I can definitely skip this game. My backlog is too large to bother with this one, thankfully. Especially knowing this story info!
Re: Fake Saros PS5 Story Details Are Circulating Online - Here's What Actually Happens
So…if I’m reading this right, you play as an abusive guy tries to reunite with girl he abused but she’s in love with another woman and moves on from him.
What an uplifting story! Glad I skipped this one.
Re: Lords of the Fallen 2's Idea of Female Armour Is Downright Embarrassing
Tell me you don’t like the developer of this game without telling me you don’t like the developer of this game.
That said, there is a place for old-school fantasy designs. This is one of them. Not every game has to have MUH BULKY FUNCTIONAL ARMOR, this is clearly fantasy and getting upset over it is rather hilarious given the glowing reviews of other games with similarly decorative outfits.
Re: A Nail in PS4's Coffin, Call of Duty Will Finally Ditch Last-Gen Console
Wow, six years into the PS5’s lifespan and finally the PS4 is left behind by this franchise.
Re: Forza Horizon 6 Is Likely a Substantial Download for Your PS5
Can’t wait. Looking forward to playing on my Pro after I spend a few months with it on series X and seeing the difference.
Re: Crimson Desert Patch 1.05 Live on PS5, Adds Boss Fight Replays and More
@For-Kier Some damn fine people!
Re: Crimson Desert Patch 1.05 Live on PS5, Adds Boss Fight Replays and More
@Silenos …so don’t refight them? You’re not being forced to.
Re: Gamers Still Pick Consoles for Exclusives, New Data Finds
In other news, water is wet and obvious things continue to be obvious.
Re: PS5 Gigaflop Mindseye Gets a Permanent Price Reduction, Free Update and PS Plus Premium Trial
“This is just the beginning of our post-release support that will end with this because we’re pretty much doomed due to a coordinated negativity campaign.”
Re: The Outer Worlds Will Offer Free PS5 Remaster Upgrade Amidst Delistings and Price Drops
The consensus last I checked was to just play the PS4 version on PS5 because the PS5 version was pure crap. Maybe they’ve actually fixed that.
At least my decision to not give them more money for a blatantly broken product has been proven to be a wise one.
Re: PSVR2 Just Got Its Killer App with Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024, Free Update Out Today
@get2sammyb Touché!
Re: PSVR2 Just Got Its Killer App with Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024, Free Update Out Today
A killer app after Sony let it die.
Amazing that Microsoft produced a greater justification for the PSVR2 than Sony ever did.
Re: Assassin's Creed Fans Furious as Physical Copies of Black Flag's PS5 Remake Will Require Internet
You can truly tell in these comments who grew up before everyone had internet and those who grew up with it and somehow believe it or servers will never go away/become inaccessible.
Re: Assassin's Creed Fans Furious as Physical Copies of Black Flag's PS5 Remake Will Require Internet
Yeah, we noticed this the day it was announced and the box art showed it.
Would have been a day 1 buy from me, but now I’ll just play the PS4 version.
Re: 'He's Fantastic': 007 First Light's James Bond Actor Delivers a Movie-Worthy Performance, Says Co-Star
…I am shocked, SHOCKED I say that their costar in the same game they’re promoting has positive things to say.
I expected them to decry his performance as pure drivel and unworthy of Get Smart, let alone James Bond.
My amazement is absolute!
Re: PS5 Live Service Fairgames Reportedly Roasted in Recent Pre-Alpha
@zidane4028 I DualSENSED that you’d make that pun!
Re: PS5 Live Service Fairgames Reportedly Roasted in Recent Pre-Alpha
I am shocked. SHOCKED, I say. Who knew this dumpster fire of a game would continue to be a dumpster fire?
Re: Xbox Is Flip-Flopping on PS5 Again, and It's Truly Getting Tiring
I think MS has seen that its games have a market on PS, and doesn’t want to let that revenue go…but at be same time, they need to have SOME exclusives or there’s just no reason to even own an Xbox beyond greater backwards compatability.
I’m glad to see Team Green remembering that they’re a game console company first and foremost. Hopefully they do well! Maybe the Series X will remain my first but not my last XBox. Time will tell!
Re: Bloodlines 2 Dev Will at Least Try and Make the Vampire RPG Worth Playing
It’s nice that they’re trying to make this worth playing.
They won’t SUCCEED, but it’s nice that they’re trying.
Re: The Dev Behind Many Classic Games on PS5 and PS Plus Just Got Bought By Atari
Have to admit, “bought by Atari” is a very strange thing to read after experiencing the Great Video Game Crash back in the 80s.
Love that the name is back!
Re: Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced Is a Huge and 'Faithful' Remake of the Pirate Classic, Out on PS5 in July
looks at box
“Internet required to install the game”
Aaaand I’m out.