It's a server slam where progression doesn't carry over, so why would most people continue playing every day if they know nothing carries over when the full game releases in a weeks time. So of course the player count is going to decrease as the weekend goes on.
Also looking at other online games there's always a big drop in players during the same time period every day, so using that lowest drop figure for an argument is quite amusing.
@Max_the_German I wouldn't call 20+ million sales a frustrating problem for SIE, especially with those games you mentioned. Forza being on three platforms still hasn't sold as many as God of War did just on playstation.
Well so now we know why there was never a Bloodbourne Remake, because Sony valued their partnership with From software and didn't want to p**s off the original creator. Now can we move on.....
@Northern_munkey Just read the in game email about the server slam, you just get rewards for reaching certain levels in the server slam (10 and 30) but any progress does not carry over.
From their FAQ,
Progress will not carry over to Marathon’s launch, but there will be tiered rewards based on your Server Slam progress that will be credited on launch via an in-game mailbox.
Its my own fault for not reading it properly to begin with but if I had known I would have played a few less matches than I did lol.
Imagine remaking a game 5 years after it's original release, that to me is absurd and would have gone down just as (not) well as the TLOU remake, surely?
@Artois2 Yeah that's the problem with it being a free play test, means anyone can just downlaod it and give it a rating without playing it. The length some saddos go to is embarrassing.
@BLKxHER0 Yeah the first map even says it has less human players. I played around 5 games on the beginner map and encountered no other teams yet I did on my first game on perimeter normal and was finding other teams every other match.
Definitely been enjoying my time with the game, after playing Arc Raiders I was put off the idea of this being an Extraction Shooter but I much prefer this over Arc Raiders.
So out of that 2% revenue from PC, how much of that was from HellDivers 2 and Destiny 2? Take those from the equation and you're probably left with 0.5% revenue from their single player games. Now surely that's just not worth it? They can just continue to release live service games on PC but keep single player games exclusive to consoles.
With the new Steam console and the next Xbox rumoured to run Steam I'd say this is a very wise move, and one I'd say most Playstation gamers will agree with.
Is that 2% revenue really worth hurting your brand, and losing players to the Steam box and Next box.
@saffeqwe Says who, the most played games on Playstation are these types of games. One of the game of year contenders last year was one of these types of games.
@jFug Helldivers 2 is the only success they’ve had in the live service space
How many games have they released in the live service space? Since the PS5 released they've had one failure Concord and 3 successful in HellDivers 2, MLB and Gran Turismo 7. Destiny 2 and all it's expansions are also doing good and Marathon doesn't look like it's going to be a failure either. Ghost of Yotei Legends also seems to be wanted by fans although that game won't be monetised so I don't think Sony care too much about that one.
@Oram77 Well I take my comment back as after doing some searching this sites score seems to be one of be lower ones. 88 metacritic on PS5, 90 on Switch 2, 91 PC and 92 on Xbox. So maybe it is a game of the year contender after all 😜.
Well so much for game of the year material, I might pick it up Friday still but I am seriously contemplating getting it for the Switch 2 to see what the system can achieve when pushed.
The plan is the next Forza, Halo, Gears and Fable are coming to Playstation. Until Xbox start getting console sales similar to Sony that plan is not going to change, and this course they are currently brings in more revenue than they've ever had before.
The fact it was topping the PlayStation store pre order charts and top 5 on steam means it's definitely no Concord. The game looks fantastic visually and gameplay wise and with Bunjie behind it it should be supported very well.
@SMJ I'm a Playstation and Nintendo gamer and whilst I don't like Xbox (I have owned them before) I don't really care if they stick around. One of the reasons I started to despise them was because of their attempt at outspending the competition by buying two of the biggest publishers around, then those leaked emails about who to buy next such as Nintendo and Square and the email about basically running Sony out of business, kind of gave them this bully attitude just because of their trillions.
But that has changed now that they are a third party publisher, but I still think they shouldn't be allowed to buy any more big publishers going forward.
In terms of giving Sony competition, I just don't see it. You don't push your competitor to compete by giving them your biggest games day one, and raising your prices above the market leader. Right now Nintendo and Steam are Sony's main competition so Xbox not being around will make no difference tbh, especially with those poor console figures.
So I don't mind if they stick around but just leave the big publishers and Nintendo alone.
Theres no going back now in terms of bringing their games to Playstation and Nintendo, especially when new games from their top 4 IP's are already coming this year. It would be another 5+ years before the next games from these IP's come out and the damage would well and truly be done by then. Xbox's game indentity will be gone and gamepass will no doubt get more price increases, the only reason to carry on investing into their consoles would be to play your existing library if that matters to you.
Also how are Insonmiac releasing top AAA games so fast? You had Spider-Man 1 in 2018, Miles Morales in 2020, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart in 2021, Spider-Man 1 Remastered in 2022, Spider-Man 2 in 2023 and now this in 2026. Other studio's need to learn from these guys.
@ButterySmooth30FPS Strange isn't it, and that last game sold less than 2 million lifetime sales.... I remember Final Fantasy 16 getting laughed at for selling 3.5 million in one week.
@VelocityXCI Agreed, although one game that could go against them with ease is the new gen Pokémon game which is rumoured to be announced this Friday. Other than that, I can't see many games releasing in November.
@Areus I'd bet my house on it, most of those people just like to follow the latest Sony hate trend without thinking for themselves. Was quite funny seeing HellDivers 2 be a massive success, those people were nowhere to be seen.
@ShogunRok I see, that's good to hear then. Maybe this re shuffle is also why there's been no new Atelier announcement yet as there's usually one new game per year.
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Re: More God of War PS5 Details Leak, Out in 2027 with New Protagonist
Next year is looking good already with this and Intergalactic.
Re: These 13+ PS5, PS4, and PS Plus Games Are Coming Out Next Week (2nd-8th March)
@MrPeanutbutterz This is the first I'm hearing this, wasn't asked to verify anything when I played the server slam.
Re: These 13+ PS5, PS4, and PS Plus Games Are Coming Out Next Week (2nd-8th March)
Marathon, Planet Lana 2 and Pokopia for me next week.
Re: Hands On: Marathon Is Dense, Demanding, and Drop Dead Gorgeous
It's a server slam where progression doesn't carry over, so why would most people continue playing every day if they know nothing carries over when the full game releases in a weeks time. So of course the player count is going to decrease as the weekend goes on.
Also looking at other online games there's always a big drop in players during the same time period every day, so using that lowest drop figure for an argument is quite amusing.
Re: Sony Quietly Decided to Scale Back PC Ports Last Year, Insider Claims
@Max_the_German I wouldn't call 20+ million sales a frustrating problem for SIE, especially with those games you mentioned. Forza being on three platforms still hasn't sold as many as God of War did just on playstation.
Re: Shuttered Dev Bluepoint Wanted to Remake Bloodborne, FromSoftware Blocked It
Well so now we know why there was never a Bloodbourne Remake, because Sony valued their partnership with From software and didn't want to p**s off the original creator. Now can we move on.....
Re: Hands On: Marathon Is Dense, Demanding, and Drop Dead Gorgeous
@Northern_munkey Just read the in game email about the server slam, you just get rewards for reaching certain levels in the server slam (10 and 30) but any progress does not carry over.
From their FAQ,
Progress will not carry over to Marathon’s launch, but there will be tiered rewards based on your Server Slam progress that will be credited on launch via an in-game mailbox.
Its my own fault for not reading it properly to begin with but if I had known I would have played a few less matches than I did lol.
Re: Shuttered Dev Bluepoint Wanted to Remake Bloodborne, FromSoftware Blocked It
@OldGamer999 Exactly, let's leave the remakes for games from the PSP and PS1 to PS2 library.
Re: Hands On: Marathon Is Dense, Demanding, and Drop Dead Gorgeous
Only just realised that progress does not carry over to the full game 😭, time to stop for now then.
Re: Shuttered Dev Bluepoint Wanted to Remake Bloodborne, FromSoftware Blocked It
@8bitOG When they would have started it would have been around 2020 which would have been 5 years after it's release. Sorry my bad on not being clear.
Re: Shuttered Dev Bluepoint Wanted to Remake Bloodborne, FromSoftware Blocked It
Imagine remaking a game 5 years after it's original release, that to me is absurd and would have gone down just as (not) well as the TLOU remake, surely?
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Resident Evil Requiem?
I've played around two hours when I got back from work, I'm playing on the Switch 2 though and tbf it runs well and looks good.
Re: Hands On: Marathon Is Dense, Demanding, and Drop Dead Gorgeous
@Artois2 Yeah that's the problem with it being a free play test, means anyone can just downlaod it and give it a rating without playing it. The length some saddos go to is embarrassing.
Re: Hands On: Marathon Is Dense, Demanding, and Drop Dead Gorgeous
@BLKxHER0 Yeah the first map even says it has less human players. I played around 5 games on the beginner map and encountered no other teams yet I did on my first game on perimeter normal and was finding other teams every other match.
Re: Hands On: Marathon Is Dense, Demanding, and Drop Dead Gorgeous
Definitely been enjoying my time with the game, after playing Arc Raiders I was put off the idea of this being an Extraction Shooter but I much prefer this over Arc Raiders.
Re: 140K+ Players Slam Marathon Servers in Pre-Launch Test, and That's Just on PC
Played for two hours last night and had a blast, the UI is chaotic but you kinda get used to it. Also thought the bots hit hard or is it just me 😅.
Re: Rumour: Sony Backtracking on PC Strategy, Shifting Towards PS5 Exclusivity Again
So out of that 2% revenue from PC, how much of that was from HellDivers 2 and Destiny 2? Take those from the equation and you're probably left with 0.5% revenue from their single player games. Now surely that's just not worth it? They can just continue to release live service games on PC but keep single player games exclusive to consoles.
Re: Rumour: Sony Backtracking on PC Strategy, Shifting Towards PS5 Exclusivity Again
With the new Steam console and the next Xbox rumoured to run Steam I'd say this is a very wise move, and one I'd say most Playstation gamers will agree with.
Is that 2% revenue really worth hurting your brand, and losing players to the Steam box and Next box.
Re: Marathon Server Slam Gets Underway Today - Here's Everything You Need to Know
I have to agree with comments about the UI, so much going on. Apart from that though it's a very good game and so far I'm quite enjoying it.
Re: Project Windless Dev Explains the Game's Giant Rooster-Man Protagonist
@Scottyy If that's true then it makes sense as they wouldn't want the next Xbox to have access to their big games, even if they are 1-2 years old.
Re: Project Windless Dev Explains the Game's Giant Rooster-Man Protagonist
@Oram77 As a Tottenham fan I bet you want a chirpy dlc costume 😅
Re: Video: Silence as PSVR2 Turns Three Years Old - Is Sony's PS5 Headset Dead?
Honestly it was DOA.
Re: Disgaea's Crazy Action RPG Spin-Off Slashes to PS5 This Summer
@get2sammyb Can you play as different characters or is it just the one guy.
Re: Marathon Server Slam Gets Underway Today - Here's Everything You Need to Know
That's my evening sorted.
Re: For Some Reason, Sony Apparently Got Gran Turismo 7 Running on Switch 2
@Boxmonkey Well porting to PC seems to have not done anything to their console sales.
Re: For Some Reason, Sony Apparently Got Gran Turismo 7 Running on Switch 2
Maybe this is just research for their own portable that's been heavily rumoured, they might be testing what minium specs are needed.
Re: We're Really Getting Anime GTA on PS5 Before GTA 6
But can you kill random people on the streets and sleep with prostitutes 🤔, you know the real reason people play GTA 😅.
Re: Marathon Collector's Edition Might Be the Best We've Ever Seen
@saffeqwe Says who, the most played games on Playstation are these types of games. One of the game of year contenders last year was one of these types of games.
Re: For Some Reason, Sony Apparently Got Gran Turismo 7 Running on Switch 2
I think this is more Sony testing what the competitions device is capable of.
Re: Marathon Collector's Edition Might Be the Best We've Ever Seen
Why do people even click and comment on these articles if they have no interest in the game or anything related to say about the game.
Re: Wolverine PS5 Release Date Reveal Sparks Bluepoint Cover-Up Claims
@djlard Tbf the remasters they have done this gen hasn't really sold very well at all, so I don't think they've done any ass saving lol.
Re: Wolverine PS5 Release Date Reveal Sparks Bluepoint Cover-Up Claims
@jFug Helldivers 2 is the only success they’ve had in the live service space
How many games have they released in the live service space? Since the PS5 released they've had one failure Concord and 3 successful in HellDivers 2, MLB and Gran Turismo 7. Destiny 2 and all it's expansions are also doing good and Marathon doesn't look like it's going to be a failure either. Ghost of Yotei Legends also seems to be wanted by fans although that game won't be monetised so I don't think Sony care too much about that one.
Re: Resident Evil Requiem (PS5) - Two-in-One Horror Not Quite an All-Timer
@Oram77 Well I take my comment back as after doing some searching this sites score seems to be one of be lower ones. 88 metacritic on PS5, 90 on Switch 2, 91 PC and 92 on Xbox. So maybe it is a game of the year contender after all 😜.
Re: Resident Evil Requiem (PS5) - Two-in-One Horror Not Quite an All-Timer
Well so much for game of the year material, I might pick it up Friday still but I am seriously contemplating getting it for the Switch 2 to see what the system can achieve when pushed.
Re: 'The Plan's the Plan Until It's Not the Plan': Xbox All Over the Place on Future PS5 Ports
The plan is the next Forza, Halo, Gears and Fable are coming to Playstation. Until Xbox start getting console sales similar to Sony that plan is not going to change, and this course they are currently brings in more revenue than they've ever had before.
Re: Things Sure Aren't Sounding Good for French Publisher Nacon
Hopefully the new Greedfall does well to give them some financial stability for a while. Also hoping this won't effect Edge of Memories.
Re: This Is the Next PS5 Gacha That's Going to Eat Up All Your Time
I think il just stick to Wutha for now, Arknights didn't grab me and I played the beta for this and thought it was average at most.
Re: If This Marathon Trailer Doesn't Get You Hyped for the PS5 FPS, Nothing Will
The fact it was topping the PlayStation store pre order charts and top 5 on steam means it's definitely no Concord. The game looks fantastic visually and gameplay wise and with Bunjie behind it it should be supported very well.
Re: Marvel's Wolverine PS5 Release Date Announced
@Leinad7 So like Mario, Pokémon, Zelda, Animal Crossing etc
Re: Original Xbox Creator Shares Brutal Opinion of New Leadership, Believes This Is the End of Xbox
@SMJ I'm a Playstation and Nintendo gamer and whilst I don't like Xbox (I have owned them before) I don't really care if they stick around. One of the reasons I started to despise them was because of their attempt at outspending the competition by buying two of the biggest publishers around, then those leaked emails about who to buy next such as Nintendo and Square and the email about basically running Sony out of business, kind of gave them this bully attitude just because of their trillions.
But that has changed now that they are a third party publisher, but I still think they shouldn't be allowed to buy any more big publishers going forward.
In terms of giving Sony competition, I just don't see it. You don't push your competitor to compete by giving them your biggest games day one, and raising your prices above the market leader. Right now Nintendo and Steam are Sony's main competition so Xbox not being around will make no difference tbh, especially with those poor console figures.
So I don't mind if they stick around but just leave the big publishers and Nintendo alone.
Re: Original Xbox Creator Shares Brutal Opinion of New Leadership, Believes This Is the End of Xbox
Theres no going back now in terms of bringing their games to Playstation and Nintendo, especially when new games from their top 4 IP's are already coming this year. It would be another 5+ years before the next games from these IP's come out and the damage would well and truly be done by then. Xbox's game indentity will be gone and gamepass will no doubt get more price increases, the only reason to carry on investing into their consoles would be to play your existing library if that matters to you.
Re: Marvel's Wolverine PS5 Release Date Announced
@OldGamer999 And all above 85 metacritic.
Re: Marvel's Wolverine PS5 Release Date Announced
Also how are Insonmiac releasing top AAA games so fast? You had Spider-Man 1 in 2018, Miles Morales in 2020, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart in 2021, Spider-Man 1 Remastered in 2022, Spider-Man 2 in 2023 and now this in 2026. Other studio's need to learn from these guys.
Re: Marvel's Wolverine PS5 Release Date Announced
@ButterySmooth30FPS Strange isn't it, and that last game sold less than 2 million lifetime sales.... I remember Final Fantasy 16 getting laughed at for selling 3.5 million in one week.
Re: Marvel's Wolverine PS5 Release Date Announced
@VelocityXCI Agreed, although one game that could go against them with ease is the new gen Pokémon game which is rumoured to be announced this Friday. Other than that, I can't see many games releasing in November.
Re: Wait! Some Fans Will Be Playing Horizon's Divisive PS5, PC Multiplayer Game This Weekend
@Areus I'd bet my house on it, most of those people just like to follow the latest Sony hate trend without thinking for themselves. Was quite funny seeing HellDivers 2 be a massive success, those people were nowhere to be seen.
Re: 'No Second Chances': Marathon Cheaters Will Be Banned Forever, Bungie Says
Hopefully this game does great, which it should since it was topping the PlayStation store pre order chart and was in the top 5 pre orders on steam.
Re: Don't Worry, Team Ninja Split Doesn't Impact Nioh, Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive Dev
@ShogunRok I see, that's good to hear then. Maybe this re shuffle is also why there's been no new Atelier announcement yet as there's usually one new game per year.
Re: Trails in the Sky 2nd Chapter Scores a Super Expensive, Time-Limited Special Edition
That price is ridiculous, if this was by NIS it would have been half that price.
Re: Marvel's Wolverine PS5 Release Date Announced
This should have been in the state of play as the closing game, would have made the show a 10/10 personally.
Also seems a bit earlier than I thought, maybe GTA even has Sony rushing.