LordAinsley

I think the trailer, although it looked graphically pleasing, was kind of uninteresting.

This probably says something about the length of the production cycle, but the idea of a Florida based open world filled with conspiracy theorists, gators, beer, booze, trap and strippers...its just very 2015.

Maybe they'll have an interesting take on it, but I feel like their writing team has really dampened, a lot of the trademark Rockstar humour felt stale in GTAV and I'm getting the same vibes from this trailer.

Hopefully, I'll be proven wrong

There's a mime in this area that provides the outfit "short"

The humour and character are unbareable and somehow get more annoying each iteration of the game.

Even the first game, I remember people commenting how Claptrap is annoying, but every game outtrumped him by 10 and he's almost the best character in there now.

The gameplay doesnt change enough to make me sit through the awful, unfunny, Elon Musk-tier humour. I couldnt make it the whole way through 3.

@MrPeanutbutterz I'm with you for sure.

I also didnt finish the Elden Ring DLC despite loving the base game.

@thefourfoldroot1 i personally would not use the term "unmolested" when describing a dating sim about underaged girls

@MrPeanutbutterz I'm starting to feel the same way about all DLC honestly, but especially in a game like this. It was fun, I don't want any more.

I think the RoboCop/Doom Eternal approach of "make a sizeable, stand-alone DLC" is preferable to me now.

That being said I will play the Lies of P one.

Still got Indy and Clair Obscur to play so will wait this out. Played the first 2 hours for a nice nostalgia hit, but that choppy frame rate is certainly rough, an improvement would go down well

@Jedihillis the 3rd main quest where you fight a bunch of goblin guys with a few NPCs who help you, my framerate was going like 5 FPS on the Pro. Its like 5 enemies vs 5 NPCs and yourself.

Usually people call something a remake when its more like a remaster, and then here we get something that looks more like a remake being called a remaster.

We need a offical definition!

@Weebleman ass shadows? I thought they closed that place down!

@Czar_Khastik I'd take a rumour from your grandma over Grubb at this point. At least I wouldnt have to sit through a 2 hour podcast to get it

@LogicStrikesAgain broken clock is right twice a day

@JustMyOpinion what LGBT narrative?

@ChrisDeku It's true, but their focus is currently quite narrow so anything they give attention really gets attention.

I hope the game is good, if it gets a massive ad push like its getting, cant be bad for fighting games if it onboards a bunch of GenZ and Alpha players

@naruball It's true! Similar in Movies and Videogames.

Often the weakest is the third series, as viewers/players who haven't yet tried the series feel too disconnected to jump in after missing more than 1 entry.

Not sure how its sold but not interested in playing anymore of this if it gets DLC, or even a 3rd game.

@Dan12836666 arguably all their biggest successes have online multiplayer

Sounds good to me, but feels strange to me that we're suddenly getting loads of XCOM-likes (Star wars one, marvel one, R6 one) when apparently they dont sell that well?

I wonder if they've sort of worked out a good way to budget it so it can be profitable and sell to the audience of people who want this, or it s a punt and it wont make as much money as the studios expect

Looking forward to Blue Prince.

Indiana Jones the week after

@Boxmonkey I see what you're saying but this isn't true.

The film is bad, and critics are correct to review it this way. However, people often like bad movies.

The problem with all of these surveys that are done by people who aren't critics is that 90% of people just see any analysis like this as "What is the best game".

In this case, its influential but you often get it in other awards, the GOTY often will win "Best Sound" which often isn't the case.

People love to hate on critics, but they actually thoughtfully analyse things. Also you don't have to agree with anything anyone says really, so why does it matter

That's really frustrating.

@naruball I dont think so.

I think guaranteed successes are few and far between:

A Killzone remaster/remake might sell OK, same with an Infamous one (but probably not gangbusters)

Anything else, I just dont see the market for it. They wont flop but they're going to sell like 100-200K copies if they make a new Socom or Resistance or Twisted Metal or whatever. Theres just no market for it. If there was...the game would already have been made

@Czar_Khastik all attempts to get people to play Wet should remain, agreed

@GeeEssEff Agreed. The whole point of the game is that its an impossible choice, the second game addresses this and it's silly to consider their being a "correct" answer for the situation in the moment.

It's why the first game is so great!

@Czar_Khastik they only published this.

the dev is the same dev that make dead by daylight weirdly.

I'm suspicious of how this is going to play.

In theory, this is a game that exists in Everywhere, so in practice, is this a game made in a game generating game, similar to Tren (built in Dreams)?

Theres so much potentially to go wrong. If Everywhere makes bad games, then this game is just going to be bad.

if it makes good games, but this game has been made badly its bad.

We need more gameplay and previews.

this is actually an FBI sting, if your IP address is tracked to having downloaded this game, a squad of agents will arrive at your door, airlift you to guantanamo and waterboard you until you're fixed

@WolfyTn I like it, it feels damned if you do and damned if you dont.

They overleant on the series in the PS3 era, and started really dripfeeding the overarching future story so practically nothing of impact happens during the game.

I think Valhalla did the best in recent years with it, so its kind of disappointing that in Shadows its been relegated to next to nothing. Its pretty one note in Mirage as well.

I'd love to see them try and fix it but at this point I think they either need to fully reboot the franchise

I'm so uninterested in more Uncharted. It's of the time. Lets move on to something else

As with the last game, its a 9/10 and then begins to lose a point every 10 hours at around the half way mark.

Settles at a 7 or 6/10

It's 100% the Saudi connection.

Last big Saudi PPV boxing match was covered in City of the Wolves branding and believe the next PPV is literally called "Fatal Fury". They often trot Ronaldo out at these events too and have him sit prominently in the front row next to MBS or whatever other members of the royal family are there

Interesting, I completely assumed this was intentional, as it's a customisable standalone area and it turns off as soon as you leave the area

I can't play in 30 anymore, looks awful.

@Fartingale they should literally just upscale the Phil model from THUG and darken his hair slightly, then they wouldnt have to do any extra mo-cap work or design

@breakneck I honestly think the "controversy" was a load of nonsense.

I think it would have sold this much regardless of whether or not grifters ginned up the false narrative that it's woke and its proof that this is a vocal minority of people.

The audience for this rage bait is just people who were either never going to buy the game in the first place or straight up people who also make rage bait.

If Grubb just goes ahead and says:

"You can expect an egyptian, greek, norse, remake, remaster, sequel and prequel in the next 10 years", he can just cover all his bases at once, rather than having to retroactively correct his lies every few weeks.

@DennisReynolds he truly is one of the biggest losers on the internet.

Always fun to highlight this, but in December around Christmas this year he revealed that he hadn't played Wukong or Stellar Blade, two games that he spent months and posted about hundreds and hundreds of times.

Unhinged behaviour

@Hyena_socks it's an attempt to build an audience with the growing drama obsessed culture built by gaming youtubers. its all punching down

@CutchuSlow you wouldnt know Concord was a failure until September 2024. You could think "that looks boring, I dont want to play that" but you wouldnt know it was a failure.

Games take years to make. Concords development started in 2018 and this game started around 2020.

There will be more of these to be added to the pile, just depends how many titles were greenlit. A lot of games were greenlit in 2020 during COVID when a lot of capital flooded the space as game dev and animation were two fields that were quite capable for entertainment spend for remote staff and back then, live service was making a lot of money. It still is technically!

Hindsight and that makes it seem obvious now, but back then they'd been funded and were just building something.

@RobN I've started picking up some UHD BRs for this very reason.

@Sweetz Agreed. I actually feel similarily to a lot of threads where people go "Why haven't Sony rebooted X, Y and Z? I loved those games and they would absolutely be successful now"

99% of the time? You're wrong, and they wouldn't. It's fun to think you know more than a massive corporation with financial interest who run constant testing, marketing and research campaigns on games, solely based on nostalgia for something you played when you were 10 years old but its pretty unlikely.

@breakneck Silence was one of the films I was referring to, its an incredible movie.

Personally I really loved First Reformed a few years back. Seventh Seal is one of my favourite movies and I think the knights relationship with God is the key to the film.

Even stuff like Conclave recently and the Two Popes I think are fantastic.

It's a complex topic and its absolutely worth exploring in a video game, as is any topic to be fair. I think some people have a weird skewed view that something that explores religion is going to be Billy Grahamas Bible Blasters or some sort of interactive Edutainment game about the Last Supper. It's totally not the case

Postal 2 VR is actually wild

@Steel76 I'm not religious and some of my favourite movies explore religion and faith.

its a fascinating topic and doesn't require you to go to chuch every sunday or even believe in a God to be interesting

Hulst really will throw money at absolutely anything as long as its Horizon related huh?

Good letters.

I think there is a near zero chance that Twisted Metal Live Service would have succeeded. It's never worked past the PS1. Its not an untapped market. Noone wants games like this anymore.

@DennisReynolds @Enuo @heavyartillery56
On sequels, you're all kind of right.

A sequel is a guaranteed sales push over an original IP due to the first game, positive word of mouth from the first game etc however a third game can actually be difficult.

Marketing research has proven that its very difficult to get people in to the series for the first time when you're on the third title. Mass Effect famously struggled with this and ran a rather ridiculous PR campaign focused around the concept that "Mass Effect 3 is perfect time to enter the series", which if you've played the game you know is a really ridiculous statement. It eventually underperformed.

Same deal with Dead Space 3, they basically found they had probably reached the peak of their intended audience for sales with 2 so had to pivot to including more action and multiplayer in DS3 in an attempt to expand the already stretched player base for a title. The result was a all over the place third game that original fans didnt like and new fans didnt play.

I do think we'll get 3 eventually, although I do think its concerning that Neil seems sort of burnt out by the series and is talking down potential sequels at the moment. He has been laser focused on this very depressing universe for a long time now, I can see how that can get to you.

this response needs to be banked and Harada, Ed Boon and any other game creators can set up bots to just automatically spam this response out to anyone whining.

he's bang on as usual

@dskatter I dont even like it in KC.

There's a reason they don't make games like Shenmue anymore and 3 flopped. Its boring to do things realistically in games like you would in real life.

@Dalamar interesting. I think I beat her 2nd time and then Nameless Puppet kicked my head in for about an hour