For now we only hear leaks, rumors and some expectations. Truth is, I don't know yet.
This generation I own all of them: PS5, XSX, Switch and only passed on PC few years ago.
If MS delivers on their promises like Steam, Epic, GOG and other shops availability on their console as well as PC games running and free multiplayer... I can see myself buying their Box assuming the max price to be around $1500.
If it happens I would just pass on PS6, and just keep the Switch.
Even though I don't have a PC for few years, I often buy games at Steam or others to my library there so finally would have some equipment to run it. Also waiting a year or so for Sony to release their games on a Steam isn't a problem. Can wait. PC games are just cheaper to buy as well.
PS5: The Witcher 3, my second play, finished it 10 years ago, waited and decided to play again. Surprised how many things changed with updates, new quests, gears, and how many things I actually missed playing first time. Love it.
PS5: Broken Sword Remaster, I have huge sentiment to both 1 & 2, next to Witcher and Skyrim this is my comfort zone
3DS: Professor Layton and Curious Village, to challenge my brain and actually relax.
Played some Halo Infinite and Halo Masterchief Collection on XSX and really… I don’t understand the hype over that IP. I mean, soundtracks are awesome, the suit looks awesome, but overall this is just another FPS shooter..
@HRdepartment „ company that’s setting unrealistic number expectations and to achieve those numbers it comes at a great cost I know wasn’t considered when they set those numbers”
Oh believe me they considered that great cost when they set these expectations. I work in financial planning and analysis where we prepare a ground for these kinds of plans and from the very beginning it is always required to estimate how to reach the target with different scenarios including the painful ones.
Well, the profit margin expectations they have are rather impossible to reach, no matter if that is Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo. I would say targeting at 20% would be difficult but manageable, but 30% no way. Anyway, all this does not change a thing, they still plan to release next-gen both stationary and handheld. And if the rumors about stationary being more open equipment like a kind of Xbox branded PC with access to both MS Store and Steam.. that is something I am going tu buy. Of course depending on the price tag assuming it will be more expensive but they must be also realistic. Cannot be too expensive.
But I can imagine one stationary instead of having PS6, Xbox and a PC, why not have one that runs them all. Quite tempting.
As for the first part, I just said almost the same using different words. As for the second part, I believe people took hard lesson jumping into new generation PS5 and then waiting months and years for exclusive games, they won’t repeat same error and knowing these new AAA titles need many years to develop we can be almost sure there will be a lot of waiting in next gen as well. So why not keep PS5 and wait for several games to release before moving to next gen? That is what I will do this time. Btw, I think we are unsure of handheld Xbox but the stationary one is already in production, they plan to release it somewhere around a year earlier before PS6 release.
@SeaDaVie The problem is Destiny 2 can make money for now but won’t last forever. And their new works seem to rather be a failure. We can discuss but maybe let’s not pretend Marathon will earn..
Bungie once was a studio with great talents and IPs, but now they have no valuable IPs anymore and their greatest talents left the company long before the acquisition. At some point in upcoming 3-4 years I suspect Sony will just close Bungie.
@wildcat_kickz yeah, at the same time we didn’t see Saudis invade countries on the other side of the world for resources, control and to put their puppet governments but we all did US starting conflicts with many casualties, all for oil, power and political benefits.
@SBBuds not really, Nintendo has incredibly huge and loyal fanbase. Switch one proved that and Switch 2 repeats the process. In these days where Sony and MS release games that are lazy open world adventure games third person view the game library on Nintendo is really diverse and enjoyable.
Notice one thing PS5 great sales come from the fact PS4 sold great and people had their libraries of games they wanted to keep playing. It wasn’t the great list of PS5 exclusives that sold the console because that list was and still is poor compared to PS3/PS4 generation.
Same for Xbox Series sales, the very same.
At the same time Switch 1 was a completely new console that apart from some virtual console games required players to build their game library from the beginning. On a console hardware weaker from all competitors. Yet, it outsold all of them.
You can say Nintendo games are colorful, simpler etc but they are easy to enjoy and start playing. Switch 2 will just repeat the success, while I can bet PS6 and new Xbox sales will be worse than current generation.
Well, having several consoles I did buy some games, others I played through subscriptions like PS+ or GamePass as well. My problem is, a game must have really interesting story, good mechanics, and perfect length, not to mention minimum of grinding and doing repetitive stuff because developer was too lazy to design something new from time to time.
Which means, I rarely finish games. If I finish any of games, I must really like it and find it interesting to reach the end. On one hand played The Witcher 3 three times, both Plague Tale games, or new Tomb Raider trilogy, or Elden Ring.. and many more. On the other hand I deleted both Horizon Zero Dawn and Forbidden West after 30-40 hrs, deleted Spiderman 2 after maybe 12 hrs, never finished AC Odyssey or Valhalla, or even the great Ghost ot Tsushima (which felt like Ubisoft style game unfortunately).
That is why I do a pros/cons analysis before buying any game to justify the cost and check if I want to play and finish that game or I am only bored and need something different for couple hours to get bored again with it. Being able to afford these games doesn’t justify throwing away cash for something in many cases I won’t like and won’t finish.
I do hope they spend some time to get rid of all the woke from it and cut cooperation with SweetBaby. I also hope it will be something new and not Spiderman 2 with new skin.
@Whyarewestillhere
79Whyarewestillhere23 minutes ago
„It sold on the hype and a lot of those people moved on to…”
…newer generation because they had game libraries from PS4. That is basically how I would describe PS5 sales. And then there was cold shower - where are the games, where are the games…
Funny. Just wait for PS6 release - its price will start where the PS5 Pro price level is and go even higher with 2x dualsenses and game included.
What is more funny, I fear people did not learn the lesson with PS5 release and lack of first party game releases. I wonder how often they will release on PS6 considering new AAA games take 4-6 years to develop and they did not even start developing PS6 games yet because they focus to develop anything still for PS5..
@Flaming_Kaiser It took them over 10 years to produce this crap, it will take more than few months to improve and fix it. It’s not only poor performance. It’s boring characters, generic world. This is another example of Chinese development model - copying.
You guys know what it means? State of Play focused on third party game means we will not see any Sony first party game for a looong time. If they had anything to show they would I guess.
And that 007.. I am not convinced to buy it. If that was a mature, serious game with some movie like theme - would buy day1. But 007 James Bond Junior not really..
@SuntannedDuck2 I was there, wondering which handheld to purchase many years ago: PSP, VITA and 2DS/3DS were on the table. Spend time on research, checked available games, accessories and prices and I went with New 3DS XL.
And no regrets. Amazing handheld, incredible game library. Before they closed e-Shop I managed to purchase whatever was worth to purchase, all the must-haves that were unavailable physically. Still have it. Still use it. Whenever I am tired of big and time consuming PS5/XSX games I am just playing on 3DS to relax.
Right now, having to choose between PS6 handheld, Xbox handheld, SteamDeck and Switch 1/2 it will be Nintendo all they way. There is no sense to buy Sony/MS handheld since these games will be similar to PS5/6 and XSX games - big, open world, time consuming games for 100 hours that get boring after 20 hours.
Nintendo games may look more colorful, less realistic, but what Nintendo did - they did not follow the trend with power and realism, they deliver more relaxing, high quality games that give fun.
I can see a downgrade from Tsushima. Reusing world and object models should help them to improve their quality, not downgrade it. It just looks like a game my smartphone could run..
It’s ridiculous that a game for current gen consoles looks worse than Tsushima on last gen consoles. Either they share gameplays from some pre-alpha or they think we are blind.
Not to mention gameplay itself is nothing special.
Some guys laughed it will be DLC to Tsushima.
Apparently Tsushima was Definitive Ghost game, and this looks like Ghost Lite.
I can already bet it will sell ~30-40% worse than GoT. And we all see why.
Let’s be honest now. How well did Sony do their portable devices: PSP was the only one good, Vita support was poor, memory cards expensive, and Sony killed it. How well are they doing with VR/VR2? Similar approach, poor support.
Won’t pay them for PS6 Portable knowing they will kill it soon or later. Not to mention their exclusive games delivery is incredibly lacking and bad since few years. Sorry, for hybrid or portable consoles Nintendo won and keeps the crown.
@Max_the_German Origins is huge, nice story and you may finish it, very nice game. Odyssey is bigger than Origins, story is good enough, I liked it.. but it is too long. I would recommend to get Origins. Anyway - they both are discounted quite often so you can get Odyssey next time.
What did you expect for $200 for a set game+diorama+figure. Game alone is $70. It would be better quality if diorama+figure was for $200 alone. They went for cheap stuff.
Not so much. Like always, they add games that almost everyone already purchased on some -50% sales during these years. At least this month they add decent games. I went back from Premium to Extra, because Premium is so lacking. Extra is getting worse as well, if you have no idea what they will add next months you just need to check what games had poor sales, bad reception or are basically cheap these days, and you got a list for Extra in following months
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Re: Talking Point: If Xbox Drops the Cost, Would You Be Happy Still Paying for PS6 Multiplayer?
For now we only hear leaks, rumors and some expectations. Truth is, I don't know yet.
This generation I own all of them: PS5, XSX, Switch and only passed on PC few years ago.
If MS delivers on their promises like Steam, Epic, GOG and other shops availability on their console as well as PC games running and free multiplayer... I can see myself buying their Box assuming the max price to be around $1500.
If it happens I would just pass on PS6, and just keep the Switch.
Even though I don't have a PC for few years, I often buy games at Steam or others to my library there so finally would have some equipment to run it. Also waiting a year or so for Sony to release their games on a Steam isn't a problem. Can wait. PC games are just cheaper to buy as well.
Re: Xbox Boss Believes Sony's Strategy of Console Exclusives Is 'Antiquated'
She’s right, and even Sony executives know that.
This is the reason they are releasing their games now also on PC.
Re: Bethesda Is Working on New Fallout Games, Todd Howard Confirms
@AhmadSumadi of they say they begin works on Fallout game, it is highly possible their works on Elder Scrolls are in final stages. I mean I hope so
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 604
PS5: The Witcher 3, my second play, finished it 10 years ago, waited and decided to play again. Surprised how many things changed with updates, new quests, gears, and how many things I actually missed playing first time. Love it.
PS5: Broken Sword Remaster, I have huge sentiment to both 1 & 2, next to Witcher and Skyrim this is my comfort zone
3DS: Professor Layton and Curious Village, to challenge my brain and actually relax.
Re: Halo Confirmed for PS5, Remake of First Game Out in 2026
Played some Halo Infinite and Halo Masterchief Collection on XSX and really… I don’t understand the hype over that IP.
I mean, soundtracks are awesome, the suit looks awesome, but overall this is just another FPS shooter..
Re: This Is Why Xbox Is Bringing All of Its Games to PS5 Now
@HRdepartment „ company that’s setting unrealistic number expectations and to achieve those numbers it comes at a great cost I know wasn’t considered when they set those numbers”
Oh believe me they considered that great cost when they set these expectations. I work in financial planning and analysis where we prepare a ground for these kinds of plans and from the very beginning it is always required to estimate how to reach the target with different scenarios including the painful ones.
Re: This Is Why Xbox Is Bringing All of Its Games to PS5 Now
Well, the profit margin expectations they have are rather impossible to reach, no matter if that is Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo. I would say targeting at 20% would be difficult but manageable, but 30% no way.
Anyway, all this does not change a thing, they still plan to release next-gen both stationary and handheld. And if the rumors about stationary being more open equipment like a kind of Xbox branded PC with access to both MS Store and Steam.. that is something I am going tu buy. Of course depending on the price tag assuming it will be more expensive but they must be also realistic. Cannot be too expensive.
But I can imagine one stationary instead of having PS6, Xbox and a PC, why not have one that runs them all. Quite tempting.
Re: Oblivion Remastered's Physical PS5 Release Will Include the 'Base Game on Disc'
@SuntannedDuck2 GT7. Sorry for late reply, a lot of stuff happening right now and wasn’t checking here
Re: Oblivion Remastered's Physical PS5 Release Will Include the 'Base Game on Disc'
@SuntannedDuck2 yeah I got it cheap, bought it preowned for like $18-20 depending on the exchange rate.
Re: Aug 2025 USA Sales: Massive Month for Single Player Games, PS5 Can't Catch Switch 2
As for the first part, I just said almost the same using different words.
As for the second part, I believe people took hard lesson jumping into new generation PS5 and then waiting months and years for exclusive games, they won’t repeat same error and knowing these new AAA titles need many years to develop we can be almost sure there will be a lot of waiting in next gen as well. So why not keep PS5 and wait for several games to release before moving to next gen? That is what I will do this time.
Btw, I think we are unsure of handheld Xbox but the stationary one is already in production, they plan to release it somewhere around a year earlier before PS6 release.
Re: Oblivion Remastered's Physical PS5 Release Will Include the 'Base Game on Disc'
@TripleKing333
Most Sony games are on disc, yes.
All of them? No.
Could not play GT7 neither Morales without significant download.
Re: Sony's Acquisition of Bungie Continues to Be Questioned as Destiny 2 Falls Off a Cliff
@SeaDaVie
The problem is Destiny 2 can make money for now but won’t last forever. And their new works seem to rather be a failure. We can discuss but maybe let’s not pretend Marathon will earn..
Bungie once was a studio with great talents and IPs, but now they have no valuable IPs anymore and their greatest talents left the company long before the acquisition. At some point in upcoming 3-4 years I suspect Sony will just close Bungie.
Re: Now Xbox Owns Call of Duty, Sony's Investing Its Marketing Budget into Battlefield 6 Instead
@wildcat_kickz yeah, at the same time we didn’t see Saudis invade countries on the other side of the world for resources, control and to put their puppet governments but we all did US starting conflicts with many casualties, all for oil, power and political benefits.
Most countries have some sins. Smaller or bigger.
Re: Aug 2025 USA Sales: Massive Month for Single Player Games, PS5 Can't Catch Switch 2
@SBBuds not really, Nintendo has incredibly huge and loyal fanbase. Switch one proved that and Switch 2 repeats the process. In these days where Sony and MS release games that are lazy open world adventure games third person view the game library on Nintendo is really diverse and enjoyable.
Notice one thing PS5 great sales come from the fact PS4 sold great and people had their libraries of games they wanted to keep playing. It wasn’t the great list of PS5 exclusives that sold the console because that list was and still is poor compared to PS3/PS4 generation.
Same for Xbox Series sales, the very same.
At the same time Switch 1 was a completely new console that apart from some virtual console games required players to build their game library from the beginning. On a console hardware weaker from all competitors. Yet, it outsold all of them.
You can say Nintendo games are colorful, simpler etc but they are easy to enjoy and start playing. Switch 2 will just repeat the success, while I can bet PS6 and new Xbox sales will be worse than current generation.
Re: People Don't Buy Anywhere Near As Many Games As You Think
Well, having several consoles I did buy some games, others I played through subscriptions like PS+ or GamePass as well. My problem is, a game must have really interesting story, good mechanics, and perfect length, not to mention minimum of grinding and doing repetitive stuff because developer was too lazy to design something new from time to time.
Which means, I rarely finish games. If I finish any of games, I must really like it and find it interesting to reach the end. On one hand played The Witcher 3 three times, both Plague Tale games, or new Tomb Raider trilogy, or Elden Ring.. and many more. On the other hand I deleted both Horizon Zero Dawn and Forbidden West after 30-40 hrs, deleted Spiderman 2 after maybe 12 hrs, never finished AC Odyssey or Valhalla, or even the great Ghost ot Tsushima (which felt like Ubisoft style game unfortunately).
That is why I do a pros/cons analysis before buying any game to justify the cost and check if I want to play and finish that game or I am only bored and need something different for couple hours to get bored again with it. Being able to afford these games doesn’t justify throwing away cash for something in many cases I won’t like and won’t finish.
Re: Wolverine PS5 to Finally Be Revealed in Next State of Play, It's Claimed
I do hope they spend some time to get rid of all the woke from it and cut cooperation with SweetBaby. I also hope it will be something new and not Spiderman 2 with new skin.
Re: Lost Soul Aside (PS5) - Long Awaited Action Is Both Awesome and Painfully Awkward
@Flaming_Kaiser I mean game development took 10 years. Looking at the game itself, I’d say they probably developed it during weekend.
Re: 64+ PS5, PS4 Games to Buy in PS Store's Ready Set Play Sale (North America/Europe)
Went for Tactics Ogre - it’s incredible!
Re: PS5's High Price Becoming a Serious Headache for Publishers
@Whyarewestillhere
79Whyarewestillhere23 minutes ago
„It sold on the hype and a lot of those people moved on to…”
…newer generation because they had game libraries from PS4. That is basically how I would describe PS5 sales. And then there was cold shower - where are the games, where are the games…
Re: PS5's High Price Becoming a Serious Headache for Publishers
Funny. Just wait for PS6 release - its price will start where the PS5 Pro price level is and go even higher with 2x dualsenses and game included.
What is more funny, I fear people did not learn the lesson with PS5 release and lack of first party game releases. I wonder how often they will release on PS6 considering new AAA games take 4-6 years to develop and they did not even start developing PS6 games yet because they focus to develop anything still for PS5..
Re: Lost Soul Aside (PS5) - Long Awaited Action Is Both Awesome and Painfully Awkward
@Flaming_Kaiser
It took them over 10 years to produce this crap, it will take more than few months to improve and fix it. It’s not only poor performance. It’s boring characters, generic world. This is another example of Chinese development model - copying.
Re: Lost Soul Aside (PS5) - Long Awaited Action Is Both Awesome and Painfully Awkward
Generic story.
Generic and boring characters.
Lots of mechanics and ideas just copied from other games.
Performance issues.
It’s a kind of game that you won’t miss anything if you just ignore it.
Re: New PS5 Games for September and October 2025
Cronos day1
Silent Hill f after reviews and first gameplays, I don’t trust them
Battlefied day1
Aaand cancelled Yōtei preorder after they did a gameplay and visuals presentation. Not what I hoped for.
Re: State of Play Confirmed for 3rd September, Deep Dive on 007 First Light
You guys know what it means?
State of Play focused on third party game means we will not see any Sony first party game for a looong time. If they had anything to show they would I guess.
And that 007.. I am not convinced to buy it. If that was a mature, serious game with some movie like theme - would buy day1.
But 007 James Bond Junior not really..
Re: Rumour: PS6 Handheld Device Can Be Docked Like Nintendo Switch 2
@SuntannedDuck2
I was there, wondering which handheld to purchase many years ago: PSP, VITA and 2DS/3DS were on the table. Spend time on research, checked available games, accessories and prices and I went with New 3DS XL.
And no regrets. Amazing handheld, incredible game library. Before they closed e-Shop I managed to purchase whatever was worth to purchase, all the must-haves that were unavailable physically. Still have it. Still use it.
Whenever I am tired of big and time consuming PS5/XSX games I am just playing on 3DS to relax.
Right now, having to choose between PS6 handheld, Xbox handheld, SteamDeck and Switch 1/2 it will be Nintendo all they way. There is no sense to buy Sony/MS handheld since these games will be similar to PS5/6 and XSX games - big, open world, time consuming games for 100 hours that get boring after 20 hours.
Nintendo games may look more colorful, less realistic, but what Nintendo did - they did not follow the trend with power and realism, they deliver more relaxing, high quality games that give fun.
PS. Sorry for the essay xD
Re: Sony's Next Blockbuster Ghost of Yotei Goes Gold Ahead of October PS5 Release
I can see a downgrade from Tsushima. Reusing world and object models should help them to improve their quality, not downgrade it. It just looks like a game my smartphone could run..
Re: Ghost of Yotei Focuses on Firearms in Latest PS5 Gameplay Video
It’s ridiculous that a game for current gen consoles looks worse than Tsushima on last gen consoles. Either they share gameplays from some pre-alpha or they think we are blind.
Not to mention gameplay itself is nothing special.
Some guys laughed it will be DLC to Tsushima.
Apparently Tsushima was Definitive Ghost game, and this looks like Ghost Lite.
I can already bet it will sell ~30-40% worse than GoT. And we all see why.
Re: Rumour: PS6 Handheld Device Can Be Docked Like Nintendo Switch 2
Let’s be honest now. How well did Sony do their portable devices: PSP was the only one good, Vita support was poor, memory cards expensive, and Sony killed it. How well are they doing with VR/VR2? Similar approach, poor support.
Won’t pay them for PS6 Portable knowing they will kill it soon or later. Not to mention their exclusive games delivery is incredibly lacking and bad since few years. Sorry, for hybrid or portable consoles Nintendo won and keeps the crown.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Metal Gear Solid Delta?
I will wait for them to release more updates and fixes. And for a price to drop.
Re: Form Your Own Opinion on Lost Soul Aside with Free PS5 Demo
Generic. FAR from what they promised. Won’t lie - not going to buy it, even on -60% Sale if it’d discounted.
Re: 15+ PS5, PS4 Games to Buy in PS Store's Weekend Offer
@Max_the_German Origins is huge, nice story and you may finish it, very nice game. Odyssey is bigger than Origins, story is good enough, I liked it.. but it is too long. I would recommend to get Origins. Anyway - they both are discounted quite often so you can get Odyssey next time.
Re: $200 MGS Delta Collector's Edition Ridiculed Over Temu-Esque Snake Figurine
What did you expect for $200 for a set game+diorama+figure. Game alone is $70. It would be better quality if diorama+figure was for $200 alone. They went for cheap stuff.
Re: Cult Classic PS1 Adventure Fear Effect Is Suddenly Available on PS5, PS4
It might be something in 1999, but this did not age well.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for September 2025?
Not so much. Like always, they add games that almost everyone already purchased on some -50% sales during these years. At least this month they add decent games. I went back from Premium to Extra, because Premium is so lacking. Extra is getting worse as well, if you have no idea what they will add next months you just need to check what games had poor sales, bad reception or are basically cheap these days, and you got a list for Extra in following months
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 596
Witcher 3.
Played it after release, finished and after 10 years enjoying it so much. Updated graphics on PS5 + lots of new quests and stuff. Love it.
Re: Review in Progress: Lost Soul Aside (PS5) - Long Awaited Action Is Both Awesome and Awkward
If this was The Sims game I would say these negatives do not matter, but in this genre.. they do matter.
Generic, predictable story
Very dull characters
Various performance hiccups
5/10 is max, and very generous rating. They advertised something really great and delivered something very average.
Re: These 18+ New PS5, PS4, and PS Plus Games Are Coming Out Next Week (1st-7th September)
Cronos looks good, New Dawn looks scary and depressing, although the place they based it on looks really much better irr. Waiting for Silksong more.