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@PenguinLtd I don't think that's fair. Gollum is a really interesting character. I'm surprised the ball could be dropped so badly on such a good idea

A real shame. I wasn't expecting the Earth. A decent AA stealth game with a few twists and turns along the way would have been just fine. Why

@Bionic-Spencer I'm probably going to do the same, but have Sony confirmed that all the live service games are going to be MP? Aren't SP games with reasonably frequent updates/add ons technically live services?

@Splat I hope the Ghost of Tsushima, Spiderman and Horizon Playstation series get full trilogies. I really enjoy them

@Andy22385 The question is: will 9th gen games released after the pro models run like crap on the non-pro versions? If so then this is essentially halving generation length to 3-4 years. Pretty bad when consoles are costing so much

@Oriion OK. To be honest I don't really like base building in RTS games outside of Age of Empires. I much prefer getting set reinforcements. But that's just me.

Is this game a 'build stuff to generate units' RTS game or a 'complete primary/secondary/hidden objectives to get reinforcements' RTS game?

As long as Horizon and Ghost of Tushima get full trilogies, I won't mind too much. Live service is a vague enough term that I might like at least one of them, hopefully.

@Shepherd_Tallon The thing is, two of my favourite games are Firewatch and Disco Elysium, so MP and/or LS games don't usually interest me. An SP games that gets regular updates is technically a LS game, so hopefully one or two of them will suit me

@burning_as_souls But don't those have a story?

@Shepherd_Tallon The weird thing is that these Anthem/Evolve/Avengers/Babylon's Fall type games frequently don't do that well, but they keep making them! I'm just praying that the Sony live service games are good as that could be a large amount of ps5 output

AAA SP games are f**ked aren't they? Publishers want all games to be grindy Destiny clones where the story is the bare minimum to justify running in circles and shooting orbs and/or bland robots. I've never bought a game like this and I'm flabbergasted that gamers are still surprised when games like this turn out to be crap

@Stevemalkpus My guess is that FW originally planned a larger scale OW sequel to Chapter 1, but, err, 'current events' made that difficult for the Ukrainian dev studio. So they made a smaller scale reimagining of an old game, adapted to be a sequel.

@InsaneWade
That's not a bad compromise. Current gen, last gen, classic, then retro. Even then it's unclear of where the classic/retro boundary is, though.

I think a good way is that any thing before 'last gen' is retro. Sure it's arbitrary, but what other definition is there? 'Before 1995? 1997? 2000?' no matter what year it is? That's both arbitrary and increasingly meaningless. It kind of reminds me of how our current era from 1979 is sometimes called 'Modern Britain'. Surely every era of any kind needs to end sometime?

@TrickyDicky99 Won't buy the previous gen version (makes sense) or won't buy it, at all (I don't get that, TBH)

@PSXDave People love saying PSX so much, they're doing it for every PlayStation! What does the 'X' stand for? I've always called it the PS1?

Hmm. Maybe they're trying to slowly clear stock to make room for this rumoured Slim/D-chassis model?

@NeThZOR No problem. I've tried 5 times to get into Skyrim, and I can only manage about 4 hours.

@KaijuKaiser I only have space for a 24" TV on my desk, and that's 1080p. He'll I've seen a few TVs that size in 720p

Can Devs please stop making menu navigation happen with a pseudo mouse cursor in console games! Having a simple grid/list with the d-pad/ analogue stick is fine. Is this literally because Destiny does it?

@thechetearly I had no problem with the combat in Witcher 3 (PS4), but then again, some of my favourite games are Firewatch and Suzerain. Not exactly combat-focussed!

@lankieBD I think waiting for reviews is a good idea for any game, TBH.

Has the 8th gen version received the update, too?

All I want it to be able to play MGS 1-4 on PS4/5! I haven't played those games for years

@SamMR is there a website that accurately estimates VG budgets? I'd genuinely find that interesting

@Rob_230 I can easily imagine some dumb exec thinking that setting something in the same universe as another thing somehow guarantees sales equal to that other thing.

@SamMR The only possible explanation I can think of is that it includes marketing costs?

@Futureshark I'd say DS3 needs a reame more than any of them to make it better. I think they'd need to make a few story changes, though

@Truegamer79 What do the fins actually do? Cooling? The only other answer I see is something about customisable faceplates who seem to far too much about customisable faceplates.

Maybe revision no.4 will fix this. That being said I bet a lot of repair folks get dubious 'i was delicately handling it with velvet gloves and for no reason at all it just stopped working!'

@TowaHerschel7 In a video game world of shovelware, MT-ridden grinding and Open World busywork, it's writer's rooms that has you worried?

@Lup I think AC games being a mixture of more OW and more focussed is a great idea. Give the series some more gameplay variety

@Uncharted2007 For better or worse, Mirage looks to be a different beast to Origins/Odyssey/Valhalla and the AC Infinity titles look like a new soft reboot, so they're probably worth keeping an eye on.

@somnambulance
My guess is that cross-gen will drop off in late 2023 (Usual 2 year period + an extra year due to massive stock shortages etc.). If we're still getting 8th gen games in 2024, then that'd be ridiculous.

@playstation1995 A remaster of part 2 would be fine, IMO.

I'm already seeing a lot of people saying this gen should be killed off early. I'm really hoping that doesn't happen as it'd lead to a lot of wasted money and even more stock shortages? I think pro/slim versions should be released in 1-2 years with the 9th gen getting a 2nd launch from then.

@thebizniznizbiz I fear you might be boycotting a lot of games, unless maybe the ps5 pro becomes a thing

@get2sammyb It's almost crazy how well the next year or so is shaping up for horror games.

Can these people who are against a remaster remember not to buy (or worse, preorder) it, then? If these remasters sell poorly, Sony will stop making them

Well, maybe VG steaming will have taken off for MS by the time OW2 releases.

@Dr_Luigi You jest, but a GOW (4) remaster could happen

@4kgk2 The thing is, they sort of have to show off stuff for next year. As far as I know, the only confirmed Sony first party game for 2023 is Spiderman 2?

Hmm. It's interesting they said a time frame.

Let's see The Forgotten City, Alan Wake Remastered, The Quarry and The Devil in Me!

@Tharsman One the plus side, there's a decent-ish chance ill have a ps5 by then!

This weird hysteria in the US over 'adults only' really confuses me. Loads of video games are rated 18+ in the UK and Europe. I see loads of bbfc/pegi '18' rated games.

@Korgon Plus it's a bit churlish to pit them together when we barely know anything about the game. On the plus side, 9th century Baghdad, (presumably) medieval Japan and witch trial (1600's?) era (what is now) Germany could be fun. I'm praying they keep the history tour though.

@nessisonett
Good point, Do we know when this game takes place? If it's set during the 'warring states' era, then it could be set 200-300 years after GOT. And presumably on the Japanese mainland too, not a relatively small island.

You'd think they could reuse a lot of those assets for an AC1 remake. I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was a season pass bonus.