@Nickolaidas Exactly, this game doesn't even look nextgen and the studio is a small no-name developer to begin with. This is just a very cheap marketing stunt on their part.
The sad thing is there will be more companies doing the same thing, not only Nintendo. But even sadder thing is that after Sony puts Dreams on PC, people there won't just give a single f*** and they will mod the game (or many times just pirate it entirely) and get a wide range of exclusive content, which won't be allowed to appear on the console.
Now calculate how much money was made within at least 4 millions of full priced 60$ sales (minus physical costs) and then over 10 millions of sales in the end. Saying things like "they need to earn more money to break with their game" is naïve at least.
@rockman29 Longevity and sales could be achieved via consistency of the platform and with the backwards compatibility of the future hardware. The brand of the "ecosystem" is an inportant thing, you don't see Valve (Steam) selling even their older games like Half-Life or Portal on Epic Games Store and GOG. Hell, Valve has released zero of their first party titles for PS4 while they still could earn some easy bucks here.
@parvaz1 If you have over 100 million units of installed base and need "more players" to maintan an online game, there's something really, really wrong within YOU.
I've heard Radical was in the middle of development for the sequel while Activision called them and cancelled the project moving the team and assets into the little monstrosity today we know as "Crash Tag Team Racing".
Noone sane wants motion controls outside of party games. This survey was rigged or posed to the most casual people who don't play so often and don't know what is what.
Well, those results are thanks to Sony abandoning Japanese market and focusing on the western gaming too hard. Performing modest Vita successor in addition to the home console and not doing the censorship would be enough to slow down switch and gain at least few millions of additional sales.
Well, the "leak" (and gamesradar source) implies it's on Xbox too, so here you go with your "console exclusivity" being the only exclusivity that matters.
Fanboys will buy it anyway and enable even worse practices upon the industry. Casuals too, but they are not loyal and could jump to Xbox or even streaming with any major f***-up. Anyway, Playstation is not on the level of Apple as the brand being bought for the branding alone, and even Apple doesn't expand it's assets beyond their proprietary hardware. Future expansion into the third world and most of the post-soviet bloc countries is also impossible, because they all prefer and do already play on PCs.
@SaikoWaifu2003 Games were always the reason, and with anticonsumer bull@#$% like paid online, censorship, no refunds, weak bc and the lack of 60fps settings it is even harder to stay.
So no PS5 for me then. Dreams coming to pc makes the Playstation version of the game handicapped and literally worthless. Just look at Skyrim mods on pc and Skyrim mods on PS4.
@Nickolaidas Yeah, but those complaning were yelled by those evil scary fanboys, while at the same time being chastened and moralised by opinion-forming journalists and other influencers. Here it's the other way around.
@Gamer83 As for the funniest thing, contrary to the bad-exclusive 'zeitgaist', I fail to see people here or at another sites begging for Nintendo exclusives going multiplatform. There were even published some articles here and there telling it won't get ported, so it is really wrong to ask for... Hell, there are some titles in the market, like Cuphead, being NOT RELEASED ONLY ON PS4. I strangely don't see serious complaining and whining about those.
This article sounds like a damage control to me. Again. And this time a passive aggressive on top of it all... But as for some of the inconsistencies inside, maybe I'm not really a genius, so I just simply don't understand why Predator: Hunting Grounds, for example, is coming to PC while being Epic Store exclusive. I don't think it's being able to boost any player base this way, but bloody hell, I'm only a simple moron here at the end of the day.
@wiiware The creators are and they are the only players that matter. And technical capabilities of that "large percentage" of inactive players will grow over the time, while PS5 will be staying in the same place. Not to speak about modding and cracking (pirating), which will make it even more incompatible with consoles. I can't see those countless Skyrim mods on PS4 while on PC they are plenty. But I guess at least with Skyrim they are only a side thing and not the main gimmick.
@Rudy_Manchego Minecraft IP is owned exclusively by Microsoft and not a licence. But unlike anything else it was already a huge IP and being available on the competing platforms before the MS aquisition's happened (hell, it's over 100 million sales by now).They realistically couldn't revoke it and even if they could, it would be simply a PR nightmare. As for licences... do you know Spider-Man is technically the same kind of licence as MLB one?
@wiiware Dreams launching for PC would be pointless for PS4 and PS5. Maybe they should go all in already and abandon the singnificantly inferior version for the console, if that's the case? Considering the vast amount of concent created on PC wouldn't be available on Playstation (higher specs required, mature or copyright content) it seems like a pointless thing to even have it here then.
@Tasuki Could play different and not being 100% submissive. Games like FIFA or The Show or NBA2K are based on reusing your old assets and already done technology. I doubt that any publisher could develop a sports game of this size under a year or even two from the scratch. This would result in at least one year gap, which would bring huge losses and brand damage for MLB only. But I have a feeling (considering the latest actions) that kind of situation wasn't the case and it was just Sony wanting to go multipat with it.
@ZeroAbbadon Amazing how it is wrong to ask Sega for Bayonetta sequels (third party Nintendo exclusive), but at the same time it is okay to portbeg Sony's 100% first party games like Horizon or God of War coming to pc and other platforms or it's wrong to even dislike the idea publicly. Truly the double double standards of "gaming community".
First of all, I don't think the aquisition spree is over. Secondly - you can't really call this a "war", when Microsoft took over few dying developers and Sony has just bought a single studio. And for the last one thing, Jim Ryan didn't rule out possibility of imminent aqusitions, just stated that while being a successful company you can't buy useless assets and the potential purchases have to be well-conceived.
@verynaughtyboy You can already swap HDDs in every PS4 without voiding warranty, they all have a special slot for doing so (PS3 and even some PS2 had those slots too).
@supergurr You can already do this with an external HDD, just have to login with your account.
I don't think it's good idea going for proptietary SSD standard. One of the advantages PS3 and PS4 had over Xboxes was that you could easily replace your storage drive with the most popular standard on the market. This stinks like the Vita memory cards.
@nessisonett Why won't steam fund him and his expensive actors then? Why won't Gabe Newell pay for his latest visions?
As about Sunset Overdrive - it makes sense they are asking, because Sony now owns the game and IP.
@get2sammyb PS Now is a very different kind of thing. Because of the nature of streaming pc players don't get the actual code of the game, so they cannot have it forever. Sony can remove (and as the announced GOW example shows they will) some titles from the offer with subscribers deffinitely losing access to them. With native port once the game is published it will stay with the platform forever with the already made purchases or thru the hacking/piracy.
The biggest blow with streaming is pc players habitually abusing free trial to play exclusive games.
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Re: PS5 Exclusive Godfall Is Being Tailored to Run Only on Sony's Next-Gen Console
@Nickolaidas Exactly, this game doesn't even look nextgen and the studio is a small no-name developer to begin with. This is just a very cheap marketing stunt on their part.
Re: PS5 Exclusive Godfall Is Being Tailored to Run Only on Sony's Next-Gen Console
It is NOT an exclusive.
Re: Nintendo Putting Pressure on Sony to Remove Dreams Creations on PS4
The sad thing is there will be more companies doing the same thing, not only Nintendo. But even sadder thing is that after Sony puts Dreams on PC, people there won't just give a single f*** and they will mod the game (or many times just pirate it entirely) and get a wide range of exclusive content, which won't be allowed to appear on the console.
Re: Site News: Don't Forget to Visit Our Sister Site Pure Xbox
Doubt there's enough people to care only about "xbox news".
Re: Ex-Guerrilla Producer Rips Butthurt PlayStation Fans Over Horizon PC Port
@RudeAnimat0r
"The game, which is the first open world effort coming from the Killzone developer and has just released for PS4/PS4 Pro, has cost the software house and its publisher Sony an amount around $47 million."
https://www.gamepur.com/news/horizon-zero-dawn-budget-revealed-the-game-is-the-largest-dutch-media-production-ever
Now calculate how much money was made within at least 4 millions of full priced 60$ sales (minus physical costs) and then over 10 millions of sales in the end. Saying things like "they need to earn more money to break with their game" is naïve at least.
Re: Not Every PS4 Exclusive Guaranteed for PC Release, Says PlayStation Boss
@rockman29 Longevity and sales could be achieved via consistency of the platform and with the backwards compatibility of the future hardware. The brand of the "ecosystem" is an inportant thing, you don't see Valve (Steam) selling even their older games like Half-Life or Portal on Epic Games Store and GOG. Hell, Valve has released zero of their first party titles for PS4 while they still could earn some easy bucks here.
Re: Not Every PS4 Exclusive Guaranteed for PC Release, Says PlayStation Boss
@David187 well, 109 millions to 41 millions should speak it itself, but management is a hard thing like we are seing.
Re: Not Every PS4 Exclusive Guaranteed for PC Release, Says PlayStation Boss
100% committed minus porting to PC
Re: Predator: Hunting Grounds Plays It Safe in PS4 Box Art
"PlayStation Plus Subscribtion required"
Disgusting. PC players don't have to pay a dime to play this online, and this is first party Sony-owned game.
Re: Horizon: Zero Dawn Listed for PC on Amazon France
@parvaz1 @parvaz1 And maybe that's because playing online is free on pc and PS Plus isn't required?
Re: Horizon: Zero Dawn Listed for PC on Amazon France
@parvaz1 If you have over 100 million units of installed base and need "more players" to maintan an online game, there's something really, really wrong within YOU.
Re: Horizon: Zero Dawn Listed for PC on Amazon France
Well, this is even worse promotion for PS5.
Re: Activision Has Multiple Remasters and Reimagined Titles in the Works, Reveals Later This Year
Maybe "Running Wild"? LOL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_Wild_(video_game)
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Doesn't See Sony As Competition Going Forward
"to get gaming to seven billion people around the world"
LOL. Not everyone has and will have (especially dedicated) gaming as a hobby, this is plain stupid.
Re: Rumour: The Wonderful 101 Coming to PS4 via Kickstarter
@get2sammyb Maybe they've sold it back then? Seems really strange.
Re: Rumour: The Wonderful 101 Coming to PS4 via Kickstarter
I really doubt it's gonna happen, it's literally co-owned by Nintendo.
Re: PS2 Fan Favourite Simpsons Hit and Run Almost Had a Sequel
I've heard Radical was in the middle of development for the sequel while Activision called them and cancelled the project moving the team and assets into the little monstrosity today we know as "Crash Tag Team Racing".
Re: European Survey on Next-Gen Suggests Gamers Want Better Graphics Above All Else on PS5
Noone sane wants motion controls outside of party games. This survey was rigged or posed to the most casual people who don't play so often and don't know what is what.
Re: Yakuza: Like a Dragon Fails to Spark Series Resurgence in Japan as Lacklustre Sales Continue
Well, those results are thanks to Sony abandoning Japanese market and focusing on the western gaming too hard. Performing modest Vita successor in addition to the home console and not doing the censorship would be enough to slow down switch and gain at least few millions of additional sales.
Re: PS5 Slogan Change Gives Weight to Massive Next-Gen Leak
@lilrizky Posted the same thing, but strangely the comment was deleted without notice
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/11/is_sony_teasing_a_new_crash_bandicoot_game_in_latest_tv_ad
Re: Rumour: The Order: 1886 Will Make a Triumphant Comeback with PS5 Sequel
Well, the "leak" (and gamesradar source) implies it's on Xbox too, so here you go with your "console exclusivity" being the only exclusivity that matters.
Re: Poll: Will PlayStation Exclusives on PC Affect Your PS5 Purchasing Intent?
And as I said, damage control is already happening.
Re: Poll: Will PlayStation Exclusives on PC Affect Your PS5 Purchasing Intent?
Fanboys will buy it anyway and enable even worse practices upon the industry. Casuals too, but they are not loyal and could jump to Xbox or even streaming with any major f***-up. Anyway, Playstation is not on the level of Apple as the brand being bought for the branding alone, and even Apple doesn't expand it's assets beyond their proprietary hardware. Future expansion into the third world and most of the post-soviet bloc countries is also impossible, because they all prefer and do already play on PCs.
Re: PS4 Exclusive Horizon: Zero Dawn Will Come to PC in 2020, Says Report
@Odin1985x You can't block the mods on pc. Once the game is cracked (which is inevitable) noone can have control over it's compiled files.
Re: PS4 Exclusive Horizon: Zero Dawn Will Come to PC in 2020, Says Report
@SaikoWaifu2003 Games were always the reason, and with anticonsumer bull@#$% like paid online, censorship, no refunds, weak bc and the lack of 60fps settings it is even harder to stay.
Re: Dreams Sounds Like the Next PC-Bound PS4 Exclusive
So no PS5 for me then. Dreams coming to pc makes the Playstation version of the game handicapped and literally worthless. Just look at Skyrim mods on pc and Skyrim mods on PS4.
Re: PS4 Exclusive Horizon: Zero Dawn Will Come to PC in 2020, Says Report
Can't wait for damage control.
Re: Guide: When Is Sony's CES 2020 Press Conference?
Maybe some sparse general info, not much more because of time constraints and the absolute need to show many other electronic products.
Re: Dreams Is Finally Up for Pre-Order on PS4 Complete with Snazzy Box Art
The box art looks really cool.
Re: Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled Is Feeling Festive with December's Holiday-Themed Grand Prix
Rilla Roo looks really bad.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Most Ardent Fans Are Feeling Frustrated and Insecure
@Nickolaidas Yeah, but those complaning were yelled by those evil scary fanboys, while at the same time being chastened and moralised by opinion-forming journalists and other influencers. Here it's the other way around.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Most Ardent Fans Are Feeling Frustrated and Insecure
@Gamer83 As for the funniest thing, contrary to the bad-exclusive 'zeitgaist', I fail to see people here or at another sites begging for Nintendo exclusives going multiplatform. There were even published some articles here and there telling it won't get ported, so it is really wrong to ask for... Hell, there are some titles in the market, like Cuphead, being NOT RELEASED ONLY ON PS4. I strangely don't see serious complaining and whining about those.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Most Ardent Fans Are Feeling Frustrated and Insecure
This article sounds like a damage control to me. Again. And this time a passive aggressive on top of it all...
But as for some of the inconsistencies inside, maybe I'm not really a genius, so I just simply don't understand why Predator: Hunting Grounds, for example, is coming to PC while being Epic Store exclusive. I don't think it's being able to boost any player base this way, but bloody hell, I'm only a simple moron here at the end of the day.
Re: Sony to Develop Critically Acclaimed MLB The Show Series for Other Consoles
@wiiware The creators are and they are the only players that matter. And technical capabilities of that "large percentage" of inactive players will grow over the time, while PS5 will be staying in the same place. Not to speak about modding and cracking (pirating), which will make it even more incompatible with consoles. I can't see those countless Skyrim mods on PS4 while on PC they are plenty. But I guess at least with Skyrim they are only a side thing and not the main gimmick.
Re: Sony to Develop Critically Acclaimed MLB The Show Series for Other Consoles
@wiiware Modders and graphics artists (the Dreams audience) opperate on high end PCs.
Re: Sony to Develop Critically Acclaimed MLB The Show Series for Other Consoles
@Rudy_Manchego Minecraft IP is owned exclusively by Microsoft and not a licence. But unlike anything else it was already a huge IP and being available on the competing platforms before the MS aquisition's happened (hell, it's over 100 million sales by now).They realistically couldn't revoke it and even if they could, it would be simply a PR nightmare. As for licences... do you know Spider-Man is technically the same kind of licence as MLB one?
Re: Sony to Develop Critically Acclaimed MLB The Show Series for Other Consoles
@wiiware Dreams launching for PC would be pointless for PS4 and PS5. Maybe they should go all in already and abandon the singnificantly inferior version for the console, if that's the case? Considering the vast amount of concent created on PC wouldn't be available on Playstation (higher specs required, mature or copyright content) it seems like a pointless thing to even have it here then.
Re: Sony to Develop Critically Acclaimed MLB The Show Series for Other Consoles
@Tasuki Could play different and not being 100% submissive. Games like FIFA or The Show or NBA2K are based on reusing your old assets and already done technology. I doubt that any publisher could develop a sports game of this size under a year or even two from the scratch. This would result in at least one year gap, which would bring huge losses and brand damage for MLB only. But I have a feeling (considering the latest actions) that kind of situation wasn't the case and it was just Sony wanting to go multipat with it.
Re: Sony to Develop Critically Acclaimed MLB The Show Series for Other Consoles
@Gamer83 Short-term - yes, long-term - not at all. But I guess it's their own foolishness and they can do whatever thet want with it.
Re: Rumour: Bayonetta Joins Vanquish in Remaster Double Pack, Coming February 2020
@ZeroAbbadon Actually the copyright of the third is on Sega exclusively.
Re: Rumour: Bayonetta Joins Vanquish in Remaster Double Pack, Coming February 2020
@GodGamer They do co-own the second game with Sega.
Re: Rumour: Bayonetta Joins Vanquish in Remaster Double Pack, Coming February 2020
@ZeroAbbadon Amazing how it is wrong to ask Sega for Bayonetta sequels (third party Nintendo exclusive), but at the same time it is okay to portbeg Sony's 100% first party games like Horizon or God of War coming to pc and other platforms or it's wrong to even dislike the idea publicly. Truly the double double standards of "gaming community".
Re: Gamers Are Convinced Horizon: Zero Dawn Is Coming to PC Next Year
@get2sammyb Don't be influenced by him, you did honest job with the article and it wasn't a clickbait at all.
Re: No, Microsoft Has Just Revived the Studio Acquisition Wars
@PhantomXIII Dontnod after their next game flops like LiS2.
Re: Microsoft May Have Just Put an End to the Studio Acquisition Wars
First of all, I don't think the aquisition spree is over. Secondly - you can't really call this a "war", when Microsoft took over few dying developers and Sony has just bought a single studio. And for the last one thing, Jim Ryan didn't rule out possibility of imminent aqusitions, just stated that while being a successful company you can't buy useless assets and the potential purchases have to be well-conceived.
Re: Rumour: Is the Recently Patented PlayStation Cartridge Upgradable SSD Storage for PS5?
@verynaughtyboy You can already swap HDDs in every PS4 without voiding warranty, they all have a special slot for doing so (PS3 and even some PS2 had those slots too).
@supergurr You can already do this with an external HDD, just have to login with your account.
Re: Rumour: Is the Recently Patented PlayStation Cartridge Upgradable SSD Storage for PS5?
I don't think it's good idea going for proptietary SSD standard. One of the advantages PS3 and PS4 had over Xboxes was that you could easily replace your storage drive with the most popular standard on the market. This stinks like the Vita memory cards.
Re: Poll: Should Sony Work with Hideo Kojima Again?
@nessisonett Why won't steam fund him and his expensive actors then? Why won't Gabe Newell pay for his latest visions?
As about Sunset Overdrive - it makes sense they are asking, because Sony now owns the game and IP.
Re: Poll: Should Sony Work with Hideo Kojima Again?
I don't think it's a good idea. The game seems to lose money and it's not even exclusive to hide the costs into promoting Playstation platform.
Re: Soapbox: Why You Won't Be Playing All PlayStation Exclusives on PC
@get2sammyb PS Now is a very different kind of thing. Because of the nature of streaming pc players don't get the actual code of the game, so they cannot have it forever. Sony can remove (and as the announced GOW example shows they will) some titles from the offer with subscribers deffinitely losing access to them. With native port once the game is published it will stay with the platform forever with the already made purchases or thru the hacking/piracy.
The biggest blow with streaming is pc players habitually abusing free trial to play exclusive games.