Horizon: Zero Dawn Listed for PC on Amazon France

If or when this is announced better explain the reasoning behind it.

[Insert senseless rant about Sony releasing games on PC here as if it somehow devalues console exclusives]

Awesome, I'm sure it'll look amazing on PC. Glad more people get to enjoy a phenomenal game!

What a shame.

HZD should only be a Sony property in my opinion, being on PC as well cheapens the brand.

I don't mind former exclusives being on PC. It just means that instead of a PS5, I will just invest in finally having a decent gaming PC. After all, if the games are eventually going to come to PC and look/perform better as a result, then what is the point of sticking with Playstation?

Maybe it's Ok if Sony release exclusives on PC after 5 years or so... If you want to play it sooner, then get a Playstation. But HZD has... 3 years on the market ?

@kyleforrester87 Look a bit harder, Kyle. It's there, don't you worry!

@MS7000 some people (myself included) just prefer to game on consoles. Have no interest at all in gaming on a PC even with the apparent performance benefits. It's just more options for people and that's always a good thing imo.

@MS7000 What if the cost of said gaming PC costs hundreds more than a PS5?

It will only look/perform better if you buy hardware that is better than said console.

If the PS5 is like Series X and has power almost equivalent to an Nvidia 2080Ti, but costs half the price, you would now need to get something better than an Nvidia 2080Ti in order to get any benefit of a PC version.

@Shepherd_Tallon Thanks, I guess.

Show's over folks,go home, nothing to see here!

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they said before all of future Online + Multi-Player based games from their First-Party studios will release on both PlayStation Platforms and PCs, because Online games need more Players (exact reason behind releasing Predator Hunting Ground)...
but NOW, they want to release a First-Party Offline and heavy story based game on PC for... for WHY?

@redd214 one of the reasons i don't game on P.C is because i work on a P.C all day and the last thing i want to do when i want to relax is sit in front of a P.C

and there is the cost too, i don't care if the P.C version of a game looks prettier than the console version because i'm still playing the same game at the end of the day and i can't justify all that extra cost on the latest tech just to have slightly better hair or grass physics

@Shepherd_Tallon The only post really needed in this comment section.

At least the framerate can be unlocked, that will be the game changer. I’ve had this game sitting in my backlog for ages, now I will wait for the PC release.

If true, not a smart move, in my opinion. Even if it's not every exclusive, it's still a terrible idea.

@FullbringIchigo great points. I was considering getting a gaming pc a couple years ago but decided against it mainly because of cost/diminished returns. I mean a ps4 slim can be easily found for around $200 right now and games will look/play amazingly. What could you possibly play on a similarly priced PC, probably not even Minecraft lol.

@GamingFan4Lyf
It definitely devalues it. It's one less reason for somebody to get a PlayStation if its first party releases are available elsewhere. I don't think people should have a problem with Sony doing this. Business wise it'll make the company more money but from a brand standpoint? Yes, it absolutely devalues PlayStation consoles.

@GamingFan4Lyf it does. Why should I get an Xbox if I can play all their future games on my laptop? Lol

@redd214 Don't get me wrong, consoles are very convenient and can also be cheaper than a fancy-pants gaming PC. It is a contributing factor to why I have stuck with consoles for so long. However, exclusives are what ultimately sells the console for me. For example, if Microsoft had more exclusives worth giving a darn about, I would most likely have brought most of my games for Xbox One rather than PS4, especially since I did not have a PS3 the previous generation. Most of the games on either console are third-party, and look practically identical on either console but more importantly, are available on PC. If both consoles lose their exclusives, PC makes sense to keep all my games in one place.

Assuming any first-party game for PS4 comes to PC eventually, the only real exclusive that the PS4 as a console has that I care about would be Persona. The only other draw of consoles for me is physical media, but that is also starting to develop drawbacks due to no longer being 100% complete. You are correct though that ultimately all this is doing is giving people more choice; just that in my specific case it is to not buy a PS5. I should point that this is an extreme scenario assuming Sony continue with this trend.

@GamingFan4Lyf PC is costly. It is what keeps putting me off. I should probably stress that I am not saying that my circumstances are the same as everyone else, but I would rather invest the money into a PC than individual consoles if I can play everything in one place which will be the case if Sony continues to put exclusives onto PC. That by itself is worth the extra investment for me. Consoles will however always ultimately be cheaper and in theory, will have games optimized to perfection to play on them. I say in theory because some developers seem to struggle with optimization compared to others.

@Shepherd_Tallon This is probably the most accurate comment. Kudos to you.

Makes no sense to do a physical release on PC.

@GamingFan4Lyf Maybe. But PC grants you access to Xbox games and PC exclusives as well.

Well, this is even worse promotion for PS5.

@GamingFan4Lyf It devalues consoles themselves though, turning them into budget PCs and nothing more. If all PS and Switch exclusives were on PC, or Nvidia Shield for the latter's portability, it really detracts from the existence of the consoles in the first place.

It'd be a situation where you can play all games on PC or you can play a smaller range of games with worse graphics and performance on console, and have to pay monthly for online. And before anyone says the usual thing, you can plug your PC into your TV and use wireless controllers too. Exclusives are the lifeblood of any given console.

@MS7000 I hear ya my friend. Personally if every PS exclusive released on PC day and date it still wouldn't move the needle at all for me though I completely get your point. At the end of the day I think going into next gen MS/Sony really just want you playing their games regardless of where. Obviously they want to sell more of their own boxes but just being in their ecosystem seems almost as important from the moves their both making. I for one see that as a good thing.

Amazon France have incorrectly listed PS exclusives for PC before, I would not hold much stock on what appears on there. Even with the Jason Schreier article, it is probably just a coincidence. Until this has been officially confirmed, people need to calm down and stop jumping to assumptions.

@parvaz1 If you have over 100 million units of installed base and need "more players" to maintan an online game, there's something really, really wrong within YOU.

So going with Switch and the PC is the ultimate combo now?

@snakemake Not really, because most PC Players prefered a Online game instead of offline, exact opposite to Console gamers! it s The Exact reason why Bungie and many other big Online/Multi-Player developers prefer to release their Online+Multiplayer games first on PCs...

HZD is very special to me. It's the game that made me go with PS this gen and not Xbox.

It's also a game that really helped me during a hard period in my life in 2018. It is....precious to me.

Aloy could have become the new poster child of PS, a positive female role model at the forefront of what is still seen as a male-orientated and driven medium. She's smart, sassy, brave and pretty but she's no Mary Sue. Now she'll be on PC and there will be mods to give her bigger boobs, put her in more revealing outfits and cheapen her message. She'll become everything that she wasn't intended to be.

I think it's sad. Yes I may be a tad selfish but to me she and the world she inhabits should be on PS and PS only.

@parvaz1 @parvaz1 And maybe that's because playing online is free on pc and PS Plus isn't required?

The more people that play this classic the better.

Hopefully this is just a mistake otherwise this is the worst thing Sony can do to promote the PS5 and they're shooting themselves in the foot

Annnnddd...the death of consoles BEGINS!

Sony is doomed I tell ya.

Game of the generation for me, although it's strange that Sony are seemingly giving away what draws people to their ecosystem in the first place, the more people that get to experience this gem the better.

I will be able to play everything from PlayStation & Xbox with a PC so Switch + PC will be the way to go for people that want to play all the games with the least amount of systems lying around.

@Neolit An exception, not the rule. Though admittedly my first comment does seem to sound like an absolute that all games on PC are guaranteed to run better which is obviously untrue.

I don't know why all of your are getting upset that Sony might sell your "exclusives" to a pc player.

1. It's still no on the other consoles

2. Sony gets to make more money and possibly be financially stronger than ever before. The (God knows they need it)

3. You have more options of how and where you play your games (that is if they ever match Microsoft in "play anywhere" the functionality)

4 Hopefully this is just the first sign of a changing in the guard and they fully embrace pc as extension of their platform it should be.

One day I'll be able to play my copy of God of War 3 or whatever day 1 with the rest of you or jump on some mp game amd be playing right next to you all while enjoying the game on the hardware I prefer.
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Again trust me I think this "console war" is turning more and more into a "ecosystem war".

@Splat Hey sir do you want to sign this petition to help bring Ghost of Tsushima to the Xbone X?I mean the more people that can enjoy this future masterpiece the better!!!

https://www.change.org/p/sony-ghosts-of-tsushima-on-xbox-one-x

@Cybrshrk They need the money? How much more would Nintendo make if they released their IPs on other platforms?

I'll answer for you: BILLIONS!

And yet Nintendo keep their games where they belong. On a Nintendo system.

It almost seems as if Sony have given up on the next gen!

That's weird, sony should make more exclusive for their ecosystem rather than porting it to pc, just use streaming for people that didn't want to buy ps console.

@Gamer83 @MS7000 @Matroska @Octane
I understand your points. And yes, I think Microsoft's strategy with Xbox games devalues the system to a certain degree more than Sony's strategy here because the games release on the same day on both systems on the Microsoft side. I think Microsoft's strategy with Xbox is that it's more of a guaranteed machine that will play games (despite the fact that there is a PC version).

Xbox consoles take the thinking out of purchasing a gaming rig.

The vast majority of gamers outside these sites simply associate gaming with a console. They don't want the complexity of picking out CPU/GPU/RAM/Storage Medium/etc. They simply want something to play games that is affordable. Heck, I would say the majority of people have replaced their laptops with tablets and smart phones. They aren't buying gaming rigs.

Also, in this instance, Horizon is three years old. By gaming standards, it's a game that should be bought on the grey market for cheap due to age.

Where it doesn't devalue Sony's system is that 1 - there is absolutely no guarantee that a PC version is getting released since Sony's primary focus is PlayStation and 2 - even if this becomes a transparent strategy, most people won't want to wait 3 years to finally get the game while it circulates through PlayStation user base. The majority of buyers want instant gratification - they aren't trolling these sites to find out all the release details. They see it release on PlayStation (or Xbox) and they buy. This is the reason timed exclusives are still important - much to the chagrin of fanboys on rival platforms.

I can understand where concern would be if Sony did start doing Day 1 simultaneous releases of it's games. But that hasn't been Sony's strategy at all so far with games that have gone to PC. Plus, again, the majority of people still associate gaming with a console.

We have to take our particular situation out of the equation and look at it from a mass-market approach.

The game is 3 years old i had a fantastic time playing it so i dont really care. Consoles will be gone eventually replaced by streaming or fully digital where you dont own the game anyway you just get access too it. The scary part EA was right and took away the ownership of games now you habe the right too play.

A shame.
Oh I remember now the 'great news' Jason and the golden book was teasing a while back.

@MattSilverado Makes me wonder if HZD2 will release close to the launch of the PS5. Get them hooked and leave them with no option other than to buy a PS5.

I'm done with this .

@starbuck2212 about the time Guerrilla had to work on HZD2... on one side you can think the tools are already there... They have the engine and tools, I don't know if those are enough to harness the power of the PS5, but optimistically lets say "yes". So most of the work had to be spent on creating the machines (more complex, bigger?), the world and the story? Also new game mechanics? Maybe July 2021 it's a possible release date? It sounds too early anyway, isn't?

Like I said, if game is 5 or so years old I am fine with them porting it to PC with updated assets and graphics, but 3 years is sort of too soon. And you can say whatever you want, but owning console without exclusives is kind of useless. You can build a beast PC for 1,5k and have much more broader spectrum of things you can do with it.

@Bamila As someone who started gaming on XT PCs, I more or less agree with you... but at some point I found really nice the plug and play nature of the consoles, you don't have to worry about your PC specs or whatever. PC gaming for me was #1 while owning a NES, PS2 and Xbox360... but then with PS4 I stopped using the PC for playing... and I really don't care about it anymore.

@MS7000 the point is you would need to spend 3-4X as much as a ps4/ps5 to buld a pc that could run that game at such a high level. your call if you want to spend $1000+ on a pc or not and accept the fact that many games won't be well optimized running on pc as well.

@Porco the point of having a pc over console is that you can do 1000000 more things with it than what you can do with just console. That's where the price difference comes from.

@Bamila console are esentially subsidized by the manufacturer as they are able to source the parts much cheaper. by contrast, consumers have to pay the full, market price for every component if they wish to build a pc. the value just isn't there. consoles will always be a steal in terms of price-performance ratio. many people, myself included, like seperating their work pc from their gaming hardware — you know, play console games on the couch and leave the pc for the desk work. everyone has their own preferences, but the high cost of building as pc cannot be ignored. majority of people use work pc's for spread sheets and word processing... not exactly demanding work that even a simple laptop couldn't handle

I'm sorry but any real playstation fan that has bagged xbox for doing the same thing and now is defending a move from playstation doing this is a fraud, it is what it is.

Maybe it will release or not, but didn't this happened before with bloodborne on Amazon France with a publication of a PC version which never became real??

@Lobbo95 They Did it With Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy As well

@Areus, oohh interesting. Well this must means it's fake i presume.

@SaikoWaifu2003 heh.

1st party sony games are very well optimized — i would argue they are the best in the business in fact. 3rd party is another story and can be hit or miss, but at least you can count on the exclusives to run very well. everything else you said is subjective of course. if you dislike consoles so much, what brings you to this neck of the woods?

@Porco What exclusives are very well optimized this gen? HZD, God of War, Spiderman, Bloodborne, Uncharted 4 and so on all have frame drops below 30fps. You would think a game being exclusive to one platform wouldn't have these problems...

@SaikoWaifu2003 you are not here to discuss... more like you are here to rant about how much you dislike consoles and the console industry altogether. you come across as a pc elitist and sound more like a tech enthusiast than an actual gamer. there is more to a game than just resolutions and fidelity and absurd frames per second. perhaps you should take a step back and give credit to great art direction, storytelling and gameplay mechanics as well (of which sony exclusives ae head and shoulders above the rest in my opinion) since those are the elements most important to the quality of any given game. obviously performance is important to a certain degree, but don't let that cloud your overall perspective because that mentality leads one to being unsatisfied and always chasing the next superficial performance boost. you will purchase a ps5 only to complain about it? i don't understand the logic but sure.

@JudaiMasters you have been watching too much digital foundry man. learn to have fun and enjoy a game. nobody will notice a frame rate drop of 2 in uncharted 4 when the game is too busy looking like the most beautiful game ever made. if you cannot appreciate the optimization of uncharted 4 or any of soyny's other games, you are naiive. it is an incredible feat to get those kinds of results on an "underpowered" console. a pc of similar power would never be able to handle the game since no port would be so well optimized. that is just a fact due to the fragmentation of the pc space and myriads of hardware configurations out there.

sony should create a playstation launcher with trophies for pc if they are going to do this.

I have no problem with the PC release.
But if the intend to do this again, they should change the 'only on playstation' to something like 'first on playstation', or make a rule that 'only on playstation' is only valid for the first 2-3 years

@AdamNovice Ofcource. Because Sony is obligated to explain the reasoning behind every bussiness decision they make to you......................................................................

@Shepherd_Tallon Hahaha....yep. That's what happens on every website that dares have a comment section.