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@Boerewors well, it's certainly a theory, but not one I can subscribe to. The vast majority have no idea what a DDOS attack is and just see it as the company having poor security. The reputational damage of this is far worse than spending some money on extra compute capacity for genuine users.

@Boerewors "more capacity available to them then any hacker could ever use up" - they really don't. They do have a huge capacity, but they have a huge online presence and also run Azure, which is the cloud platform other companies use to run their own IT infrastructure. So they can't just reallocate capacity from these other, arguably more important areas, just because some idiots are swamping the Xbox Live servers with false traffic. DDOS attacks are almost impossible to prevent, but there are solutions to mitigate the amount of downtime they cause. This is where hopefully Sony have improved, so that if something does happen, the service is down for hours rather than days. If they've any sense, they've outsourced it to a company that specialises in this.

And said idiots are certainly not hackers. That's allocating them far too much in the way of skill and knowledge.

I only play my Vita when I'm out and about, but very glad to have it when I am! There's still some PS Plus games on it I haven't tried yet, and need to still finish a load of other games, so it's got a great lifespan left in it for me!

I've had a lot of fun playing Destiny, and it's been great value for money compared to many games I buy. But I really don't like this turn of events. I can live with Silver for things like emotes, but if you can buy your way to a good level (no matter how easy it is to get to that level, and how ridiculous the price is for it), then you're now in uncomfortable territory for me in terms of what the future holds. Goodbye Destiny. It has been a blast. I'm off to play all those great games I missed (Batman, Witcher 3, Fallout 4 etc etc)

Game sale started at 8pm and they look to be matching the £249.99 deal for PS4, Nathan Drake collection and FIFA 16.

Remote Play works well for it for most things. I noticed Destiny struggled on a couple of occasions, especially if I was playing in a fireteam with others, but it was still playable. For most other game genres it's great, but as others have said, you should really wire it, using Powerlines if you need to.

$20 is a steal for this as a streaming PS4 device (I bought nigh on full price). I do wish it had Netflix, but that's mainly what I bought it for.

We had a Betamax when I was very young - I remember hiring videos to watch on it was a nightmare, as the selection dwindled down to a small corner of the video store. Eventually, my Dad succumbed and got a VHS, but we kept the Beta for recording off the TV till I was in my late teens. Fond memories

Love Destiny, love it so much. But the birth of a new baby girl means it will be taking a backseat for a while!

Loved Civ Rev on the 360 - hope this is as good!

When did software developers become "engineers"? Must have been the same time us folk who draw Visio diagrams of computers and networks became "architects". (I am an IT architect)

Looks good to me. Essentially, just like LBP, there will be a game Media Molecule create for you to play, but it will just be the art of the possible and creating your own worlds / games and playing through other people's creations will be where the real fun is at.

I love the idea that you can use other people's creations (you could in LBP too if they were published), and the idea that the game will be much like the world wide web, with "links" connecting different worlds and games.

It sounds pretty epic - can't wait to play it!

@kyleforrester87 her comment made me laugh out loud when she gave them - it was worth it for that alone!

Excellent! This and Civ Rev would keep me and my Vita firm friends for a long time

@Ps4all if this site had a like button, I'd have clicked on it here. Well said, we all like different stuff - just play and enjoy rather than spewing hate on to those who don't agree with you

Whatever issues there are with the story, Destiny is a fantastic game that gets more than its fair share of hate. It's far and away the best value game I've owned since I was a youngster (when I would replay the same game again and again - I just don't do that as an adult!), even including the cost of the DLCs. I've sunk nearly 200 hours into it, and there's no sign of that stopping any time soon.

I can't stand Black Friday and the like. Watching people physically assault each other to buy a cheap TV just personifies the worst side of humanity.

I think a lot of people will be happy with Battlefront, just because of the Star Wars universe. The beta was dull, but presumably there will be a lot more missions in the actual game, and enough variety in terms of scenery from the movies to keep fans happy. Plus it looks spectacular!

Was playing Destiny earlier, thought I'd give this a shot this evening. I'll be back to Destiny tomorrow.

Parents in law are here so I'm stuck in Strictly Come Dancing hell. When I'm not though - Destiny, Destiny, Destiny!!

I do like the ability to easily share videos and screenshots to Facebook for gamer friends to see every now and then. I'd much rather it was there than not, even though I don't use it that often.

@Neolit Ah, got you

@Neolit I'm sure Sony confirmed that other people will be able to watch you play on the TV to make it a more "social" experience

@Cowboysfan-22 hopefully they'll be sensible and copy Apple's magnetic charging system, so if you do trip / yank the cable too hard, it will simply disconnect rather than trip you up and send your PS4 crashing to the floor!

Excellent

Only Destiny could attract 43% of people to answer a poll on a game they've never played (as of midnight Weds 23rd September anyway)

Anyway, having played the original game and the new content, it's a 9/10 for me.

Destiny Taken King all the way!

@get2sammyb - got one too, it was £50, that's not much more expensive than a normal one is it? Looks quite smart i think.

Only got into Destiny a few months ago when it was on sale in PSN store, but I haven't stopped playing it since. Loving this upgrade - timed to perfection since I just got to Level 34.

At this rate, I'm not sure what the next game will be that actually gets a decent look in!

Yeah, I'm not that busy at the moment and have done 45 days unpaid overtime so far this year, so won't feel too guilty taking some time out

Ah, working from home has its benefits. I may well switch on at 10am...

Didn't realise it had been released, but what with Until Dawn and the Taken King, I've not got the time for it right now. Will definitely pick it up at some point though.

I don't mind Nolan's version, but I did prefer Dinklage's voice over. I didn't really understand all the criticism of it to be honest.

So much of this means nothing to me! Enjoying the game though, hopefully I'll pick up some of this as I play.

GT7 pegged for 2016? We might see it in 2017 then. Might.

I seem to remember Move being put down as Sony copying Nintendo, but they had in fact been working on the device way before Nintendo announced the Wiimote. I think Sony does innovate, but they spend more time on it and generally do a better job compared to those that rush to market (though obviously the Move is not an example of that!).

Been a Playstation owner since the original, but somehow missed the Uncharted series. I first played it when I got Golden Abyss with the Vita, and saw what all the fuss was about. Then of course played TLOU remaster, so very much looking forward to this and couldn't care less about multiplayer!

Censorship laws in this country are just as barmy. Show someone being horrifyingly murdered by a maniac with a saw? Sure, no issues. Show a man and a women naked, and having sex - dear god, no (god forbid you even mention a same sex couple! Think of the children!).

I'm not saying (a) should be banned, but you've got to wonder about a society that generally tolerates horrific mindless violence for entertainment, but gets very hot under the collar around an act of love / fun.

I was looking forward to this and hoping it would be as good as it looked. Pre-ordered yesterday after the good reviews and dispatched today - one for the long weekend

@Boerewors Agreed - I'm rather like @themcnoisy in that I now only tend to get a few games, rather than every title. At the moment, I'm essentially playing Destiny and Project Cars and nothing else gets a look in! At some point I intend to buy Batman Arkham Knight, but by that time, there will probably be something else on the market that trumps it. It's an endless battle! I am looking perhaps to get Until Dawn as the wife expressed an interest in playing along with me (even though she hates horror films!).

I'm also lucky in that we bought a new place last year which has what we call the "shoffice" as it's a mix of shed and office. I work from home, so needed somewhere I could be to make calls, concentrate etc without having a crying baby. The plus side is I've managed to get my old plasma in there, and combined with the PSTV, I've got somewhere I can sneak off and game for a bit while the wife catches up on much needed rest

On a lighter note, i also want to see what the Playstation 12 is like in 40 years time

@Boerewors hmm, will your family feel the same if you die young? Sorry, it's your life and your choice, but to shorten your life to play games seems a bit crazy to me. My wife is pregnant with our first, and I want to be around as long as possible to see him / her grow. And I really want to grow old with my wife too!

I'm sure there is flippancy in your answer, but it bears thinking about. Decisions you make today may well have horrendous consequences and regrets for your future.

Sorry to bring the whole thing down, it's just how i feel.

@get2sammyb Three years before you were born? And you feel old?!

To answer the question, of course digital sales should be taken into account. It's crazy that they're not - why does buying something digitally mean that it doesn't count?

@get2sammyb You may well be right, and the argument therefore is concentrate all resources into a great multiplayer in that time limit, rather than put in a single player and make a not so good experience. But if that's the case, just say that! Who knows, I have no statistics of my own to combat this, so it's hard to argue with the man, but I would find it astonishing if true. Certainly I spent more time in single player on the PS2 versions (back when multiplayer was very novel and new experience), and I very rarely even bother with the multiplayer versions of games now - not even in Destiny!

It's a shame, I love Star Wars, this game looks amazing, but I'm beginning to think I won't bother getting it now, at least until it's cheap in a sale, as I just won't play it much if it's multiplayer only. And there's too many other great games out there I could play instead (I've not even bought Arkham Knight yet!).

Only one word for his data and its unprintable here. If anything, single player campaign interest is only increasing from everything I read. Plus, just make it optional co-op and you've got a winner.

I call profit margin as the main concern.

@BAMozzy Yes there had been level creators in games before. But nothing like the scale of what you could do in LittleBigPlanet. You could literally make your own games in it (one person made a clone of Gradius in it!). If you haven't seen them, I'd recommend looking them up. That was revolutionary and totally new (in my opinion).

Horizon doesn't look like it will offer anything like this in terms of originality (though as I said, if they reveal something that is completely new, I will happily eat my words - I just seriously doubt it's going to happen). And that's not a bad thing - I have no issues with this. Not every game has to be completely new, by a long stretch. But if it isn't offering anything creatively different, then don't go around bandying those terms (again, in my opinion).

Dreams looks to be the next MM incarnation of this originality, and I'm really looking forward to seeing that!

(original reply deleted, and this one edited as I was being needlessly silly with my own self righteousness!)

@BAMozzy I agree, it's not easy to come up with something totally new - I never said it was. But that doesn't mean it should therefore be okay to go around saying something is totally new, when it's clearly not. Even if this was something a bit new, whilst incorporating existing genres, I'd give the guy a break. But it's not, it's an RPG cum 3rd person shooter - there's nothing new at all about it.

LittleBigPlanet, whilst essentially being a platformer, did revolutionise the player's ability to actually create their own levels from scratch, without needing a year's course in computer programming. That was something totally new. Horizon, whilst it looks like it's going to be a great game, really doesn't offer anything like that. Unless of course there's something amazing which hasn't been revealed yet, in which case I'll happily eat my words

@BAMozzy Agreed, but given Guerrilla Games' pedigree, I'd suggest the "shooter" aspect will be the main form of gameplay. Anyway, as I said in my last post, I really couldn't care less what genre it is, the point is it's hardly "completely new" and "totally different" from a creative perspective. To see that, we're really relying solely on Media Molecule now (from a Sony 1st party perspective).

@BAMozzy Clearly lines are being blurred in genres these days. In my opinion, in a game where you will mostly be shooting at creatures from a 3rd person perspective, I would classify that game as a 3rd person shooter. Even though there will be RPG elements to the game, I would still classify that as the main genre. Perhaps others will play it differently, and would thus classify it differently. After all, you could easily just roam around the Far Cry 4 world, and not shoot a thing. Would that not still make it a 1st person shooter - I'd disagree, but hey, toma"y"to / toma"r"to.

The reason I suggested this argument is ridiculous is it's completely irrelevant to the point I was making. I said, "It is a 3rd person shooter so calling it something "totally different" is a stretch in my opinion". Okay, you'd call it an RPG - fine. So substitute that with "It is an RPG game so calling it something "totally different" is a stretch in my opinion".

Everyone happy now? Jeez Louise!

@Flaming_Kaiser Honestly! I'm not having this ridiculous argument any more. Go away, watch that E3 trailer again, and please then come back and inform me what genre this game is if it's not mainly a 3rd person shooter?

@Dohv Yes I am. What would you call it when you walk around "shooting" at creatures? What you're shooting them with is irrelevant, the mechanics of the game at its heart is a 3rd person shooter.