@guacguacboo Ya I cancelled my Premium auto-renewal for August, but then they had a popup 25% off to change my mind, plus I got discounted gift cards from Costco, so I resubbed (but saved $50 from list price). I don't mind unplugging for a week. I don't know if that will make a difference. Maybe they count active users per month, and not per week, so I will still register as active for August. These corporations know how to manipulate the stats.
@tangyzesty I think these concepts are intrinsically intertwined. The point of the article makes us ask if we are sentimental toward owning the PS5 hardware itself. What if Sony decided to end physical consoles and just be a streaming rental service? How many of the PS5 digital fans would be OK with that, and how many would still want the box?
@GirlVersusGame Unicorn Overlord was my game of the year in 2024. I have the Switch collectors edition I was hoping they would announce a sequel, but it seems like they have moved on. Even some DLC would have been nice..
@Ryu_Niiyama Yeah it can be like they used to do in cheesy sitcoms like Rosanne, or Fresh Prince. Probably the closest comparison here is when they replaced one of the side characters in Game of Thrones after one season. I do hope this actor’s contract grants him some funding for workplace injury.
@Areus @Hairy_Potter @Balaam_ Yes they always have the full game on disc... until they don't. The plan is the plan until it's not the plan. I have also thought about selling off my PS4/PS5 discs, and picking up the ones I really liked on digital when they go on sale. One thing I'm not sure of is if the old disc values will go up in 2028 due to scarcity or FOMO, but eventually diminish because there will be less hardward that can utilize it. Throughout all this I have to remind myself this is supposed to be a hobby that brings joy, and if I get irritated I go do something else for awhile.
I voted considering PC, mainly due to console prices. The value proposition for a $1,000 PS6 just isn't there for me. I'm primarily a Nintendo player, and the base PS5 was my first Sony console. I've built up a decent library of (mostly) physical PS4/PS5 hits, which I enjoy if/when I have time. The PS Portal helps when the big TV is in use by others.
I've also had a PC in my household for 40+ years, so when my current one gets slow, I'll upgrade it regardless. If Sony wants me to drop a grand on an all-digital machine, they need 95+ scoring GOTY titles on day one to get me to move. Otherwise, I'm perfectly content sticking to my backlog and Nintendo. I don't care for frame rates and detailed hair or shadows.
@Dogbreath @PizzaX3
I do not believe the point of the article is blind devotion to a petroleum based circular object that can hold data. It’s in regard to Sony’s decision to retreat from the physical space, with the potential loss of a retail footprint. This is a problem all over the world, and ties into the “loneliness epidemic.” The more that you remove areas for people of shared interests to congregate, the more potential that you will find to fracture communities. Maybe it’s overblown. I don’t know, and neither does the writer. It’s more of an impression he got from traveling. I recently returned from a trip to Japan, and I can see where he is coming from.
I don’t see a double standard when people say “I’m moving to PC,” which is 99% digital.
I think what’s meant by that is most everybody more or less needs a PC for home and work use, but they choose to purchase a console for gaming. If console becomes distasteful or inadequate then they’ll just bring their gaming hobby onto their already established PC environment.
@RomanRiz Consoles, specifically, will crash. It will be Candy Crush on mobile, Steam on home computer, and streaming/ cloud on whatever screen you have handy.
The premise of this article is that wallowing and whining will only get you so far, but it then proceeds to just calmly and rationally enumerate a wish list.
I would argue that whining or wishful thinking on a user blog are both equally pointless, from the perspective of the C-suite in charge. They only listen to MONEY.
The Dominoes spoof is illogical, albeit amusing. It makes no sense to compare pizza to games. Although I guess gaming fans and pizza fans mesh well in a Venn diagram.
@Bizzy @LogicStrikesAgain
The casual consumers of media, whether it be music, movies, or games probably drift through digital titles in a way that prioritizes access and convenience, with a renter and not an owner, or collector mindset. Even then, the hard core aficianados still get physical manifestations of the things they enjoy, such as vinyl or Blu-Ray box sets. Corporations are always having to balance with catering to their core audience, or diluting their product to attract more of the casuals. The backlash is mostly coming from the core fans. The most successful companies find a way to satisfy the core, but attact the masses.
@Titntin
Yes the disc would have to be a paper download code to make it all recyclable. Download code in a box is unpopular right now, but it might be the best we get, if we value displaying a physical collection on a shelf, which has at least some value, for some people.
I still by books for instance, and keep them on a bookshelf, even though I also own a Kindle e-reader.
@ThePlaystationStan This is interesting. I wonder in all of the announcements did they actually say they will no longer sell the boxes with download codes as well. I could see them still making environmentally friendly packaging with download code in a box but just leaving out the petroleum based disc. Then everything is recyclable and will not end up in a landfill. That could satisfy the however small slice of people who like displaying their collections on the shelf. Of course people always complain about download code in a box but that might be the best we get after 2028.
@Titntin
While I do appreciate the environmental argument, I don’t believe video game plastic waste represents anything more than a minuscule percent of the world‘s total use, and why can’t they just make environmentally friendly packaging instead of killing physical?
@ThatOtherNewGuy Yes I believe this 10-15% only for physical is skewed toward tiny and indie games or DLC. The big games still have a decent share of physical collectors, not to mention the pricey collectors editions. I just preordered the new Fire Emblem collectors edition. Are those going away as well?
@ThePlaystationStan I suppose this is possible. I’d love to see if their public relations makes any statements on this. After having come back from Japan, I find this rather interesting because compared to the United States, they have a big footprint in physical media such as CDs. I didn’t know Tower Records even still existed, but it’s a huge building in Shibuya. All in all, I expected Microsoft to make the first move toward going digital only. It’s also surprising they announced this for January 2028, a year and a half away. There must be something behind it, and maybe some investigative journalist will get the inside story.
Layoffs aside, I don't like the use of the term "bloodbath." It's an unnecessarily graphic metaphor to describe job losses. It feels especially tone-deaf when Xbox's parent company, Microsoft, has faced sustained criticism over its military contracts and their connection to real-world conflicts in which civilians have been killed. Whether or not one agrees with those criticisms, using the language of mass violence in this context is off-putting, and I would suggest phrasing such as "mass layoffs," "major job cuts," or "large-scale restructuring."
I saw a giant billboard of this game in Shibuya, Tokyo. I guess at least they are spending the money to advertise. It seems like gacha is a way of life over there, but to me it seems random.
@rjejr Ya I was disappointed with that. I was waiting for their back to school sale to get a Macbook Air for my daughter who will be 1st year in college. Thankfully, Amazon still has the Prime Day sale, and we snagged one before I'm sure all 3rd party sellers will follow suit with the price hikes.
Base PS5 was my first Playstation, and I built up a library of PS4/5 games that I have barely gotten through. PS6 might be an option for me mid to late generation (2032?) if by that point they have released enought GOTY level exclusives. Until then, I'm better off working my way through the GOW, Spiderman, and Ghost series.
@Bez87
Yeah, I guess I’m one of those idiots. For example I have an iPhone Air, even though it has been roundly criticized by the “spec police” as having too many compromises for its price point. I guess the way I see it, you only live once and the Steam Machine looks pretty neat to own. If it proves to be a poor experience, I could always sell it. I haven’t made up my mind either way..
@Sunraku I'm more intrigued by Steam Machine as a replacement for my Dell Desktop PC. The issues with any hybrid device is getting the balance right, so it's the best of both worlds, rather than the worst.
@Sunraku I'm not sure I agree with your framing of "toy" vs "actual PC." I believe Valve is says "SteamOS is designed to provide a plug-and-play user experience, while keeping the power and flexibility of a PC." So that would mean they are "toyifying" their own product with plug and play. I don't believe the selling point is that you can exit to Windows to launch Excel and Powerpoint, unless I haven't read up on all the marketing. If by flexibility they are referring to things like mods and emulators, in my mind those are just more "toys." At any rate, somebody figured out how to put Linux on PS5 anyway, so it's all one big circle: https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2026/04/you-can-now-install-linux-on-your-ps5-transforming-it-into-a-steam-machine
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Re: 'We Are Not Seeing Any Impact on Our Business': Sony Says Physical Disc Backlash Is Having Zero Effect
@ShadowRJ
Yeah, ironically, that is a Sony pictures entertainment movie and they also invented Blu-ray.
Re: Could Xbox Get Its Revenge on PS6 by Supporting Physical Games?
@species
Maybe I’m not so sure. They say “corporations are people too,” and.there’s nothing like cold, sweet revenge.
Re: PS5 Crawls Past 95 Million Units, Sales Down 36% Year-on-Year
@Swandivetotheasphalt
I thought the article said the profits were up because of tariff refunds
Re: PS5 Crawls Past 95 Million Units, Sales Down 36% Year-on-Year
@nolifebr
I remember standing in line at GameStop for that Spider-Man bundle
Re: Amidst Sony's Disc Debacle, Capcom Sales Data Is a Brutal Reality Check for Fans of Physical Media
@dskatter
This article, like most articles online these days, is written in a way to stir up "engagement."
Re: Fable PS5 Has Run 'Uncomfortably Beyond Budget', Sources Claim
I wonder how much of the budget went into the highly detailed spectacles in the thumbnail.
Re: Angry PlayStation Fans Propose PS5 Blackout in Protest of Sony's Disc Decision
@guacguacboo
Ya I cancelled my Premium auto-renewal for August, but then they had a popup 25% off to change my mind, plus I got discounted gift cards from Costco, so I resubbed (but saved $50 from list price).
I don't mind unplugging for a week. I don't know if that will make a difference. Maybe they count active users per month, and not per week, so I will still register as active for August. These corporations know how to manipulate the stats.
Re: 'If People Want It, Companies Should Provide It': Rockstar Co-Founder Dan Houser Joins PS5 Disc Debate
@Dalamar
I’m going to buy as many of these Pringles as I can and then I will still be able to enjoy them in 30 years
Re: GTA 6's Physical PS5 Download Codes Expire After Just 170 Days in Japan
@Zuljaras
I agree with this. Play has no limits, but fanboy-ism should have limits.
Re: Halo: Campaign Evolved (PS5) - Xbox Icon Returns to Glory in This Heroic Remake
I played level 1 of this demo many times on Xbox back in day, but somehow never got into this series.
Re: 'They May As Well Eliminate the Hardware Too': Japanese Dev Says Sony 'Doesn't Understand' the Feelings of Fans
@tangyzesty
I think these concepts are intrinsically intertwined. The point of the article makes us ask if we are sentimental toward owning the PS5 hardware itself. What if Sony decided to end physical consoles and just be a streaming rental service? How many of the PS5 digital fans would be OK with that, and how many would still want the box?
Re: 9 PS Plus Extra Game Removals for August 2026 Confirmed
@GirlVersusGame
Unicorn Overlord was my game of the year in 2024. I have the Switch collectors edition I was hoping they would announce a sequel, but it seems like they have moved on. Even some DLC would have been nice..
Re: God of War Show's Kratos to Be Recast After Ryan Hurst Suffers Injury During Filming
@Ryu_Niiyama
Yeah it can be like they used to do in cheesy sitcoms like Rosanne, or Fresh Prince.
Probably the closest comparison here is when they replaced one of the side characters in Game of Thrones after one season.
I do hope this actor’s contract grants him some funding for workplace injury.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 642
@IronCrow86
Spoiler alert!
I’m just now starting AC:Shadows on base PS5. I selected the balanced graphics mode. I may try the other modes and see which one I like best.
Re: With Over 17 Million Starfield Players, Bethesda Commits to Sci-Fi RPG's Future
Microsoft could push Starfield onto the next Windows update. Boom! One billion users reached.
Re: Don't Worry, You'll Get to Own God of War Laufey on a PS5 Disc
@Areus @Hairy_Potter @Balaam_
Yes they always have the full game on disc... until they don't.
The plan is the plan until it's not the plan.
I have also thought about selling off my PS4/PS5 discs, and picking up the ones I really liked on digital when they go on sale.
One thing I'm not sure of is if the old disc values will go up in 2028 due to scarcity or FOMO, but eventually diminish because there will be less hardward that can utilize it.
Throughout all this I have to remind myself this is supposed to be a hobby that brings joy, and if I get irritated I go do something else for awhile.
Re: 'PS5 Has Put a Dampener on Gaming': 45% of Enthusiasts 'Seriously Considering' Leaving Sony for PC
If my PS5 dies, I will limp along with the PS Portal. I can’t see myself getting a PS6 based on various negative trends.
Re: The Elder Scrolls 6 Heavily Impacted by Xbox Layoffs, Team Morale at Rock Bottom
Shout out to the recently departed staff member who had a hand in Morrowind, one of the all time great RPGs.
Re: Poll: Are You Considering Leaving PlayStation for PC?
I voted considering PC, mainly due to console prices. The value proposition for a $1,000 PS6 just isn't there for me. I'm primarily a Nintendo player, and the base PS5 was my first Sony console. I've built up a decent library of (mostly) physical PS4/PS5 hits, which I enjoy if/when I have time. The PS Portal helps when the big TV is in use by others.
I've also had a PC in my household for 40+ years, so when my current one gets slow, I'll upgrade it regardless. If Sony wants me to drop a grand on an all-digital machine, they need 95+ scoring GOTY titles on day one to get me to move. Otherwise, I'm perfectly content sticking to my backlog and Nintendo. I don't care for frame rates and detailed hair or shadows.
Re: Try Out Anime Tactical RPG Brigandine Abyss with a Free Demo on PS5 This Month
I tried the demo of the previous game in this series on Nintendo and just didn’t vibe with it
Re: Reaction: Travelling the World Made Me Realise What PlayStation Is About to Lose
@Dogbreath @PizzaX3
I do not believe the point of the article is blind devotion to a petroleum based circular object that can hold data. It’s in regard to Sony’s decision to retreat from the physical space, with the potential loss of a retail footprint. This is a problem all over the world, and ties into the “loneliness epidemic.” The more that you remove areas for people of shared interests to congregate, the more potential that you will find to fracture communities. Maybe it’s overblown. I don’t know, and neither does the writer. It’s more of an impression he got from traveling. I recently returned from a trip to Japan, and I can see where he is coming from.
Re: Poll: $1,000 and No Disc Drive - Is PS6 Dead on Arrival?
This article is too speculative at this point, but it sure brought out a lot of hot takes.
Re: PS6 Will Be a Digital Console, And Sony Has Huge Questions to Answer About Backwards Compatibility
I don’t see a double standard when people say “I’m moving to PC,” which is 99% digital.
I think what’s meant by that is most everybody more or less needs a PC for home and work use, but they choose to purchase a console for gaming. If console becomes distasteful or inadequate then they’ll just bring their gaming hobby onto their already established PC environment.
Re: PS6 Will Be a Digital Console, And Sony Has Huge Questions to Answer About Backwards Compatibility
@ProfessorNiggle
Sometimes it just feels good to vent your frustration with like-minded individuals.
Re: PS6 Will Be a Digital Console, And Sony Has Huge Questions to Answer About Backwards Compatibility
@RomanRiz
Consoles, specifically, will crash. It will be Candy Crush on mobile, Steam on home computer, and streaming/ cloud on whatever screen you have handy.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Reputation Is at Rock Bottom - Where Do We Go from Here?
The premise of this article is that wallowing and whining will only get you so far, but it then proceeds to just calmly and rationally enumerate a wish list.
I would argue that whining or wishful thinking on a user blog are both equally pointless, from the perspective of the C-suite in charge. They only listen to MONEY.
Re: Everyone's Clowning on Sony's Decision to Go All-Digital, and Rightly So
The Dominoes spoof is illogical, albeit amusing. It makes no sense to compare pizza to games. Although I guess gaming fans and pizza fans mesh well in a Venn diagram.
Re: Everyone's Clowning on Sony's Decision to Go All-Digital, and Rightly So
@Bizzy @LogicStrikesAgain
The casual consumers of media, whether it be music, movies, or games probably drift through digital titles in a way that prioritizes access and convenience, with a renter and not an owner, or collector mindset. Even then, the hard core aficianados still get physical manifestations of the things they enjoy, such as vinyl or Blu-Ray box sets. Corporations are always having to balance with catering to their core audience, or diluting their product to attract more of the casuals. The backlash is mostly coming from the core fans. The most successful companies find a way to satisfy the core, but attact the masses.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Burned Through the Last Remaining Goodwill of Its Fans
@Titntin
Yes the disc would have to be a paper download code to make it all recyclable. Download code in a box is unpopular right now, but it might be the best we get, if we value displaying a physical collection on a shelf, which has at least some value, for some people.
I still by books for instance, and keep them on a bookshelf, even though I also own a Kindle e-reader.
Re: PS6 Will Be a Digital Console, And Sony Has Huge Questions to Answer About Backwards Compatibility
@ThePlaystationStan
This is interesting. I wonder in all of the announcements did they actually say they will no longer sell the boxes with download codes as well. I could see them still making environmentally friendly packaging with download code in a box but just leaving out the petroleum based disc. Then everything is recyclable and will not end up in a landfill. That could satisfy the however small slice of people who like displaying their collections on the shelf. Of course people always complain about download code in a box but that might be the best we get after 2028.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Burned Through the Last Remaining Goodwill of Its Fans
@Titntin
While I do appreciate the environmental argument, I don’t believe video game plastic waste represents anything more than a minuscule percent of the world‘s total use, and why can’t they just make environmentally friendly packaging instead of killing physical?
Re: PlayStation Consoles to Stop Getting Disc-Based Physical Releases in 2028
@ThatOtherNewGuy
Yes I believe this 10-15% only for physical is skewed toward tiny and indie games or DLC. The big games still have a decent share of physical collectors, not to mention the pricey collectors editions. I just preordered the new Fire Emblem collectors edition. Are those going away as well?
Re: PS6 Will Be a Digital Console, And Sony Has Huge Questions to Answer About Backwards Compatibility
@ThePlaystationStan
I suppose this is possible. I’d love to see if their public relations makes any statements on this. After having come back from Japan, I find this rather interesting because compared to the United States, they have a big footprint in physical media such as CDs. I didn’t know Tower Records even still existed, but it’s a huge building in Shibuya. All in all, I expected Microsoft to make the first move toward going digital only. It’s also surprising they announced this for January 2028, a year and a half away. There must be something behind it, and maybe some investigative journalist will get the inside story.
Re: PS6 Will Be a Digital Console, And Sony Has Huge Questions to Answer About Backwards Compatibility
@ThePlaystationStan
Yeah, that was the exact conversation in the boardroom. "How can we Save the Earth?"
Re: 'Likely the Largest Single Layoff Event in Gaming History': Ominous Words as Xbox 'Bloodbath' Looms
@Leetware1
I’m familiar with the parlance. I just find it unoriginal and inappropriate.
This is a comment section, and I chose to comment on the language used in the article. This is fair game.
Re: Persona Is Reportedly the Latest Game Series to Be Adapted for TV
I wouldn't mind an anime side story that used the same style as the P5R cut scenes.
Re: 'Likely the Largest Single Layoff Event in Gaming History': Ominous Words as Xbox 'Bloodbath' Looms
Layoffs aside, I don't like the use of the term "bloodbath." It's an unnecessarily graphic metaphor to describe job losses. It feels especially tone-deaf when Xbox's parent company, Microsoft, has faced sustained criticism over its military contracts and their connection to real-world conflicts in which civilians have been killed. Whether or not one agrees with those criticisms, using the language of mass violence in this context is off-putting, and I would suggest phrasing such as "mass layoffs," "major job cuts," or "large-scale restructuring."
Re: Atari's Rise Continues as It Acquires SteamWorld Maker Thunderful
I do like the Steam World games in theory, but less so in practice.
Re: This PS5 Open World Game Is Adding an Entire Fantasy RPG as an Extra Activity
I saw a giant billboard of this game in Shibuya, Tokyo. I guess at least they are spending the money to advertise. It seems like gacha is a way of life over there, but to me it seems random.
Re: Price Hiked PS5 Endures Sony's Worst May in Over 25 Years
@Snackfood
I thought about agreeing with you, but then I realized that I’d rather not be old.
Re: PS5 Costs Too Much, But These New Xbox Price Increases Are Just Absurd
@rjejr
Ya I was disappointed with that. I was waiting for their back to school sale to get a Macbook Air for my daughter who will be 1st year in college. Thankfully, Amazon still has the Prime Day sale, and we snagged one before I'm sure all 3rd party sellers will follow suit with the price hikes.
Re: Bungie Confirms Studio Layoffs After Destiny 2 Content Ends
@Oram77
I don't know if a statement like "Our IP with worth trillions" absolves Sony of the need for due diligence prior to an acquisition.
Re: God of War Laufey Could Release as Early as February or March on PS5
That gives them less than a year to teach everyone how to pronounce "LAU-FEY"
Re: Opinion: The PS6 Cannot Come Out in This Era of $1,000+ Consoles
Base PS5 was my first Playstation, and I built up a library of PS4/5 games that I have barely gotten through. PS6 might be an option for me mid to late generation (2032?) if by that point they have released enought GOTY level exclusives. Until then, I'm better off working my way through the GOW, Spiderman, and Ghost series.
Re: Opinion: The PS6 Cannot Come Out in This Era of $1,000+ Consoles
@1970sGamer
You are living the dream.
Re: 5 Things That Surprised Me Playing Star Wars: Galactic Racer on PS5
I'm not into racing games, so I might have to pass. I hope there is at least a demo.
Re: Valve's New Steam Machine Costs Almost Twice as Much as a PS5
@Bez87
Yeah, I guess I’m one of those idiots. For example I have an iPhone Air, even though it has been roundly criticized by the “spec police” as having too many compromises for its price point. I guess the way I see it, you only live once and the Steam Machine looks pretty neat to own. If it proves to be a poor experience, I could always sell it. I haven’t made up my mind either way..
Re: Valve's New Steam Machine Costs Almost Twice as Much as a PS5
@Sunraku
I'm more intrigued by Steam Machine as a replacement for my Dell Desktop PC. The issues with any hybrid device is getting the balance right, so it's the best of both worlds, rather than the worst.
Re: Valve's New Steam Machine Costs Almost Twice as Much as a PS5
@KundaliniRising333
I wouldn't underestimate the small and cute factor. This is like a cross between a guitar mini-amp and a Mac mini.
Re: Valve's New Steam Machine Costs Almost Twice as Much as a PS5
@Sunraku
I'm not sure I agree with your framing of "toy" vs "actual PC." I believe Valve is says "SteamOS is designed to provide a plug-and-play user experience, while keeping the power and flexibility of a PC." So that would mean they are "toyifying" their own product with plug and play. I don't believe the selling point is that you can exit to Windows to launch Excel and Powerpoint, unless I haven't read up on all the marketing. If by flexibility they are referring to things like mods and emulators, in my mind those are just more "toys."
At any rate, somebody figured out how to put Linux on PS5 anyway, so it's all one big circle:
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2026/04/you-can-now-install-linux-on-your-ps5-transforming-it-into-a-steam-machine