Yowza

I played the first game and it was ok til you got to the absurdly complicated upgrade system. What's wrong with just having regular categories with easily identified stats? I stopped going for the Ego 80 trophy when I realized I'd need to grind out tons of games to get the necessary upgrades.

Obviously he's saying this so the EA label won't scare people off from buying his game. Fe received a lot of flak for their partnership with EA so he's trying to mitigate that.
EA may be publishing this "for free", though I find that highly unlikely, to drum up some good will. What they don't realize is, if they'd stop trying to rip off gamers all the time, they wouldn't need to drum it up, it'd just be there.

@Gremio108 it was the other TV show guys coming in to wreck. It was a cutscene at the end.

@Gremio108 Split/Second is my favorite racing game ever.

Yet another game that "won" E3 for Sony that is nowhere near ready.
Im not a fan of remakes, and have no desire to buy this, but damn, SE is ridiculous with their development times. And this is supposed to be three parts!?

@hadlee73 what Ubisoft would have done is add lots of dlc and/or MTX. I'm glad Sony's franchises usually aren't abusive with that kind of stuff. Of course, there are exceptions, like Driveclub locking half the game behind a season pass. But usually, a first party game is pretty fair.

Nah, I don't have any interest in this. It needs to be a very special game for me to replay it and spend money to do so. The fact EA couldn't even be bothered to put any effort into this solidifies my apathy.

@hi_drnick consider how old it is and what the original would cost right now...

I mean, if the order 1887 came out and improved on basically every aspect of the first, I'd play it. It had a good setting and that one good weapon (thermite rifle), and part of a story to boot. They just spent way too many resources on making the game stylish and pretty. And they couldn't really accomplish that, even, without lots of filters and lots of fog (even indoors!). The werewolf fights were terrible, and the fact they reused an early fight for the final boss was inexcusable.
But even after all that, I'd play a sequel.

I hope whatever they're working on now turns out much better and more complete.

@Gt_1067 just use the regular left stick....

Meh, Sony doesn't ever have any thing for the holiday season. They'll probably just release another iteration of the Pro or PSVR and sell those.
When MS has zero exclusives ever, Sony doesn't really have to compete to get theirs out on time. And while ps4 is getting a few exclusive heavy hitters this year, it's gotten so old for their AAA, E3 winning games to be delayed til "early next year". The new holiday season, ever since ps4 released, is from February to April.

I'd like to see this release in December. Nothing good ever releases in December.

@LieutenantFatman I'd have to say Days Gone. TLOU2 is still pretty early in development

That's great to hear. Although the Diamond Dynasty is still just a vehicle for MTX.

Off topic a little, but I'm just now getting into NFS Payback. Much has been made of MTX and loot boxes being gambling. Well, this game does little to hide that fact, haha. The whole game is a metaphor for loot boxes as a form of gambling! EA is the House! The Tune Up Shop has a LITERAL slot machine aesthetic for the tokens you trade in! EA has no shame!

@Splat I wish the notification for earning a trophy didn't count as a notification. If I want to keep my notification list clear, I have to delete them as I earn them, and that's so dumb. So tedious.

So is it a one hit kill game? You kept sort of saying that, but not fully.

Lamest update in recent memory. Parental controls? Being allowed to delete notifications? ANOTHER Plus tab thing? I guess supersampling is supposed to be the biggest addition? That such a small fraction of users will even use?
Yeah, lame.

@Th3solution to what? It's mostly useless stuff or stuff that is so basic and long over due, I can't even give them credit for it.

@Quintumply That's good to know, thanks. The problem with these so called open betas is that they are really just limited edition demos. Hopefully I have time to download and play it when it becomes available.

@roe dude got laid in every game he was in! Who better to instruct you?

First off, Rusty lied a LOT when Driveclub was releasing. It made me wait years (when all dlc was out) to play the game. Although the game was great, I don't want to be lied to and will certainly not give the guy any money.

The game looks a little TOO arcadey. It really looks hard to control the cars. I'm sure there won't be a demo, so who knows if I'll ever play it.
Also, if they "can't wait" to show us more gameplay, nothing is stopping them.

@Gamer83 EA took the MTX before the game even released, so no, it wasn't because of sales, it was because of backlash from the community.
Simply not buying a game isn't as effective as not buying it and ALSO telling them exactly why. When Batman Arkham Knight revealed how much crap was locked behind an expensive season pass, I emailed the devs telling them they lost a customer and cancelled my pre-order.

I also don't care if video games are taken seriously by outside entities. I certainly don't need their validation to enjoy them. I just don't want to get ripped off in the process.

@Gamer83 Obviously death threats are ridiculous, but i see no problem with going on Twitter (which I don't use) and telling these guys what we like or dislike. It's not just there for them to push out announcements and receive praise from fanboys, after all.
Also, consider the times get have changed for the better because of the very vocal backlash from gamers. Star wars is the most recent example, but remember when Driveclub wanted to take the full game away if you upgraded from the (half assed) Plus version and let your Plus sub run out? Gamers were mad and let them know about it. It's necessary.
I know people can go too far and often do, but not all complaining is bad. Hell, it's not even complaining a lot of times. It's voicing your opinion and letting the companies know what's ok to do and what's not.

@Gamer83 DLC isn't the same thing as MTX, obviously. Nobody really complains about DLC anymore. Which is why basically EVERY game has it.
Moral is, if we don't speak up (and with our money) MTX will be just as common.

@KratosMD how bout just cuz the game looks so dumb? Is that a good reason to boycott it?
And yes, if it had MTX I would have certainly avoided buying it. Even as it is, I'm so mad at the way they've bastardized the game that I won't be picking it up for a loooong time, if ever.

Also, it's pretty awful that Sony likes to put games up for digital pre-order so early, and then announce this kind of stuff so late. If you pre-order the digital copy already (like an idiot) you are stuck with it.

Just as bad a console design as the game design! Very fitting!

Seriously Sony, and SSM (who designed this dumb thing), try harder. Not a single special edition console this gen had me even a little excited. Not that I'd be dumb enough to buy a Pro now anyway.

@Splints next step is being complacent and making false comparisons because you don't personally have the foresight to understand companies will push things as far as they can.

Of course there's a difference between dashboard and store. Who said there isn't? There are ads on both now, though.
Also, I don't remember being able to buy a slim Jim or anything like that from the psn store. But I've seen ads for them there.

I don't care that you don't know what you're talking about. Enjoy the blissful ignorance.

@Splints ....until it turns into something worse. How bout an ad before your game plays? Or before your trophy list loads?
It's only 15 seconds, right?
Eff that. They have ads all over the store already (which completely ruined the store on PS3 cuz it lags like crazy), they have ads when you pull down on a game for more info. They have ads in the "what's new" tab.

When is it ok to be annoyed about it? When it bothers you, personally? Cool, let me know when.

@FullbringIchigo oh yeah, and it used to be Xbox charged for online and nobody complained, either. I certainly don't need to spend any of my limited gaming time deleting fraking commercials.

Yeah, I loved these games. Too bad Activision owns them cuz I won't give them money. I also generally avoid playing old games when there are so many new ones releasing every week.
I'm sure some day it will be sub-$10 and I'll get it used.

Too bad Let it Die is such a terrible game. Something tells me that if it wasn't built around MTX it may have turned out better....

@thiz nah man, Shadows of the Damned is the best Suda 51 game.

@Octane haha, the Sony brainwashers got to you, didn't they?

@get2sammyb Well, the main reason they gave us a year's notice is so they don't get sued for falsely advertising that you get six "free" games with a plus subscription. After today, if you buy a year's plus sub, you can't complain about the service changing from what was promised.

@IceClimbers yeah, when ps4 came out, it was definitely time for a new console. Ps4 certainly doesn't seem to be running out of steam at the moment.
But I'm not sure it will be that way two or three years from now. It's only March 2018, we'd have two and a half years if ps5 releases November 2020. That may be pushing it.

I just got the ultimate edition for $31 the other day, it has all characters except Darkseid, and all those premium skins, too.
I'm betting this won't be cheaper than that.

First time where all my votes are for the character that is winning. I guess I'm doing it right, finally?

Well, that's basically every single game, then.
MTX should have their own designation. Standard dlc can have it's own.

I'd actually like to see a MTX warning on games, just so I don't accidentally buy them. It's a pain to have to search around any time I want to buy a game I'm not familiar with.

Also, man, that "upgrade" stipulation, that sends chills down my spine. Can you imagine if freaking ads start popping up in our AAA games? It's bad enough what FFXV did with it's stupid product placement, but can you be so sure commercials won't make an appearance in our games?
Five years ago I'd say no way. But now? EA and Activision and Konami and the like know no bounds and consumers are mostly idiots with no self control. It can definitely happen.

@YummyHappyPills doesn't apply to things bought strictly with in game currency. If the game you're referring to doesn't have a way to spend real money, it won't get the designation.

@Th3solution it wasn't a moving story at all and I didn't feel anything for the characters. I just wanted the game to be over, really.

Nah, EA can keep their dumb co op only game. And all the other ones they make for that matter.

@get2sammyb haha, Brothers was so over rated. It was mildly unique to control both kids at the same time, but that's it for me.

I'd love to see a month go by where every new release is in a stable state on launch.

@Futureshark this generation has made me do exactly what you describe. I certainly don't need to be first to play a game, so I just wait a while, get a feel for how the game turned out, and buy it all patched up and cheaper. Usually with all the stupid dlc included, too.

@Party_Cannon huh. I guess I never noticed. I've played ratchet and HZD and evil within but never noticed because I'm the only one playing games in my house.
Can't you just back up your save to the cloud and redownload it if you REALLY wanted another save file for whatever reason in those games?
So I guess the only difference is MGS wants to charge you for this weird privilege?

@emonemo420 why do we think that a $20 difference in price means all shortcomings of the game and bad practices (MTX) are to be forgiven? MTX do not belong in a paid game, period.

@brutalpanda Please name these "most games" that only allow one save slot. I've never come across it ever. I know some online only games do it, but I only learned that fact yesterday.

Well, of course this is ridiculous and comes as a shock to us console gamers. BUT, I've read that other always online, online mode only games have been doing this for years. Something to do with the characters being saved on konami's servers and therefore it's a way for them to limit the amount of space needed. (some people are ridic with their save files, creating new ones at basically every checkpoint)
I'm not defending this at all, and I'd never buy a game like this, I'm just shedding some light on the situation. Konami didn't invent this as a new form of MTX. but they still totally suck.

@Tasuki
Hah, didn't realize it was so strict! Didn't think "the B word" was off limits 😋
I'm not doing it on purpose, it's just how I talk. I'll try to be more mindful.

@Neolit sully, Kratos (before the new one, I'm not a fan of the new crappy direction) Drake. I don't care about snake or geralt.
I'd still put Kratos as my number one over all. By far my favorite Sony franchise. Which makes the new game all the more disappointing for me😞