Super Seducer Won't Be Releasing On PS4 After All

What the hell is this game?

Not a game I have any interest in nor do I care for the concept. But I think not allowing it to release on PS4, probably because they're afraid of the backlash, is pretty spineless.

GODDAMMIT NOW I'M GONNA DIE ALONE. THANKS SONY.

If the game wasn't utter turdidge I might care, also the dude is a vile excuse for human.

I would actually like to hear the reasons why. Although i think the "we are Curating" will be the end result/cop out on an official line..

I couldnt give a rats c**k for the game itself as it looks to be pointless drivel "created" by an utter bellend of a human being.

Hopefully the staff that worked on it got paid already and he, himself makes no money from what is in essence "snake oil"

@YummyHappyPills unfortunately there is worse stuff on psn than life of black tiger and Sony (to my knowledge) hasnt said how games like that have ended up on the store. This is probably a one off thing rather than the start of quality control due to the heat and controversy the creator has caused

@dellyrascal you know where I can get some snake oil?

How am I going to seduce women now?

Dangit. I promised my lady I'd show her some new moves when I see her next time.

Jokes aside, while I don't condone pickup artist behavior from any self respecting guy, the game probably would have been good for a chuckle. Like how Huniepop was whenever that dropped.

@get2sammyb I'm thinking backlash from female gamers might be the reason. And fair enough, too.

@get2sammyb Just when you convinced me to get it! Sad day...
Sorry for your loss

@roe dude got laid in every game he was in! Who better to instruct you?

I hate that this is what has become of modern western culture. A few little snowflakes get bent out of shape over digital entertainment, that is quite tame by all objectionable accounts, thus denying everyone else free choice to take part in it. The DOAX3 situation is another perfect example. And companies scared of backlash chicken out and don't release the title, denying adults like myself the freedom to choose.

If something doesn't interest/appeal to you, do what we did in the past; IGNORE it and MOVE ON. Amazing concept, right?

Good call!

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi I do but i have to be paid upfront first, cash only... of course..

Wow Sony usually allows everything. There must have been something really controversial.

@JoeBlogs Would you not agree that much of the time, people get outraged over content when they haven't even experienced it? Be it a film, game, etc..? In the case of Super Seducer, based on the footage so far, it's cheesy. Hardly worth anyone getting so enraged over. It's yet another Night Trap-type of situation.

To me, these games are just that; games. Personally no, I don't want to gas Jews in a game, nor kill babies, but I beat hookers/women in GTA. Except they're also not real women, they're pixels. My brain can differentiate that. And my one basic point is, people should be able to choose the media they want to view without others telling them they can't, unless it's involving real murder, rape, torture, child exploitation, etc... of course.

@JoeBlogs If someone went to those lengths PushSquare and journalists Reddit and all kinds of people would be giving it bad press. As a consumer, you could ignore, tell them on social media, and of course vote with your wallet.

@EVIL-C I’m not sure it’s a case of ignore it and move on. This seems to be a game about sleazing on women; given the current, justified, spotlight on such matters, I can’t blame Sony for not wanting to be a part of it- if indeed this is the reason they won’t release it. So far, nothing has been confirmed either way.

@JoeBlogs Alright, perhaps you're correct. I know that term is overused by a certain number of individuals, and I find it's invaded my vocabulary too. I personally wouldn't ever gravitate toward a theme or concept that doesn't interest me; it's best just avoided. Things would be less toxic for everyone.

Like being punched in my stomach. What this news calls for is some adult beverages and listeng to some John Mayall.

Thank god , the PS4 doesn't want it's name tarnished with crap like this.

I hate PUA's but whatever policy this violates I'd like too know.

im watching soda streaming this atm and holy f**k..

_{Language - get2sammyb}

My love for you my dear PlayStation is like diarrhea. I can't hold it in.

@Johnnycide Persona 5, bro.

This morning I'm doing a shift at the Flower Shop & then I'm going to do some bartending at night.

@EVIL-C Snowflakes maybe just maybe a company does not want to be associated with some stuff.

Well now I will never get to do anything useful with my winkie.

And yet ‘Life has f Black Tiger’ makes it on. What a joke, I thought this game was too hilarious.

@JoeBlogs ‘Right side of history,,’ lololol

I can’t believe people are still using that meme.

@hadlee73 Not in Europe. 😀😂😝

@Fight_Teza_Fight sorry mate I'm not sure what you mean?

Meanwhile, on the Right Side of History™, women are being tortured and violently murdered in Sony's own first party games.

Good to know players won't have to know the indignity of watching a PUA flirt with women in scripted scenarios, though.

No... Stop... Come back...

Yet dead or alive is a thing ? Yup this was a bizarre game and i'm not surprised there's been controversy but not releasing it is pretty severe, it must've had some really uncomfortable lines in it.

@Johnnycide My mistake!

In Persona you can take on various tasks to improve your social skills.

If you work in the Flower Shop for example you can improve ‘kindness’ & bartending can improve various other social skills.

If you rank up high enough you can progress your relationship with the other characters .

@Fight_Teza_Fight always the teacher/maid

Would anyone actually buy this, apart from those who buy it just to make fun of it? I'm sure Pewdiepie & Co would get a tonne of views from a game like this.

@DLB3 I find it funny that people who are morally scandalized by a game where you hit on women will simultaneously defend a game advertisement that is full of horrifying, contextless, nearly pornographic violence against women by appealing to Naughty Dog's "artistic freedom."

Also, I get that being sex negative is en vogue right now in the Western world, but let's not pretend that trying to "get laid" is some horrifying thing that decent people would never do.

Also note that, even on the sex front, the sort of behavior you can get up to with women in a game like GTA V is significantly more heinous than pretty much anything I know of in Super Seducer.

I'm going to guess that you won't be advocating for banning GTA V, though.

@Bonbonetti To be perfectly honest, in the era of Let's Plays and Youtube, I can't imagine why anyone would purchase an FMV game when they could just have the same experience by watching it online. To support the developer, perhaps?

Too bad nobody in their right mind is going to care about "supporting" whatever Super Seducer is supposed to be. Apart from the five people who care about buying it because "it makes the SJWs mad!"

@DLB3 I would argue that Sony is reveling in the violence depicted in TLOU Part II when it uses said violence, on its own, outside of any sort of narrative context, to promote the game, to tell people: "You should spend money on this."

Personally? I was disgusted, but I don't really care. I actually do think ND should have the right to promote its game however it likes. People like me can choose to not buy the game. I don't think my own disgust justifies other people being deprived of something they like.

What I don't understand is defending that, but acting like Super Seducer is some horrifying thing that should be banned from online storefronts. It seems hypocritical to me. Respecting women by refusing to host a piece of software is fine when it comes to some terrible looking FMV game, but that attitude goes out the window when it comes to a hotly anticipated first party game that promotes itself by, yes, reveling in violence against women. I understand that's not your position, but that was the attitude I was replying to.

Regarding Japanese games and underage girls? That's partially because I understand that Japanese social norms are different than our own, and partially because I don't think there is anything wrong with women being sexualized in media.

I don't broadly enjoy fanservice games as a genre. I liked early SK games because of their heavy focus on story and character development (yes, alongside boatloads of fanservice), and I enjoy stuff like Gal Gun that doesn't take itself seriously and is fun to play.

Tin-foil hat time!

Sony doesn't want us to have this game because, if we learn how to pick up women we won't have time to game. If we don't have time to game we won't be buying anymore games. If we don't buy anymore games, Sony (or at least the PlayStation division) goes out of business.

It's a conspiracy I tells ya!!!
A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!

@DLB3 I'm not arguing that something can't be wrong if it's a social norm. But I also recognize that there are legitimate cultural differences in the way Americans and the Japanese tend to think about certain topics, just as there are different ways that Americans and Brits think about certain topics. Is all morality relative to a person's given social context? Of course not. At the same time, it's important not to take one's own American or British morality and try to hold the rest of the world to the same standard in every situation.

A lot of Americans are disgusted by underage fanservice in Japanese games. A lot probably aren't too bothered by it. In turn, a lot of Japanese people are probably horrified by the explicit violence in American media. I'm willing to bet that a lot of Japanese people also wouldn't be bothered by that.

These attitudes vary widely even within a particular society!

So, by what standard can any of those people choose to enforce their morality on everyone else, outside of universally agreed upon codes of conduct that virtually all civilizations abide by?

And, as I said, I don't understand how someone can cheer this game getting banned from Sony's storefront because of the lack of respect it shows for women, but then defend something that promotes itself by fetishizing the brutalization of women. I get that you don't think the teaser trailer was doing that, but I do. THAT is why we can't agree on this issue, I imagine.

Let's pretend that, instead of women being tortured and murdered in the teaser, it was women being raped. Why is it OK to justify this by saying that it's a reflection of "hate" in one scenario, but not another?

@Fight_Teza_Fight haha good advice sir.

@Kidfried I have it on Steam. There was no other choice; obviously because of Sony.

@DLB3 I agree, art can and should explore difficult subjects. The thing is that we're talking specifically about an advertisement for a game. In advertising, you, A, want to give your audience a good idea of what the product they're purchasing will be like (as there will often be justifiable consumer revolt if the advertising doesn't give a good sense of what the full experience is like), but, more importantly (let's call this B), you also want to entice people to purchase your game. That's why film trailers and teasers often show off some of the best scenes and dialogue in a movie: they want you to see it and say: "I need to spend money on this." In general, then, you're not going to put something in a trailer that puts off your audience from actually purchasing the product. Generally the only advertisements I've seen promise explicit murder porn is... well, explicit murder porn. And sometimes cheeky young subversives have used shock content to "jolt audiences out of their complacency," but Naughty Dog isn't creating radical art that might lead to public scandal and bankruptcy, and TLOU isn't Un Chien Andalou, or anything else similarly experimental or risky.

The violence in TLOU Part II's trailer exists outside of any kind of context, and is there to titillate and intrigue the audience. That's fine, but I also think it doesn't really jive with the whole "respect wamen" thing.

And, you know, social norms have also changed massively within societies over time as well. Show something like The Walking Dead or Saw to an American living 50 or 100 years ago, and tell them that these were widely visible and promoted within the society, and I can only imagine the person would conclude that they were the reprehensible product of a godless and profoundly morally bankrupt society. Of course, nowadays, they're not so big of a deal. So you'll understand if I attribute Japan's increased levels of tolerance for depictions of 14 year old girls in their skivvies to cultural differences as opposed to accusing them of some massive violation of universal morality. But, judging by your previous post, I think we agree on this matter. And yes, tradition is never a good excuse to stick by a behavior you know to be detrimental to the well-being of others (which, in my book, is ground zero for determining the moral status of something).

I wouldn't really say I was making an argument in my first post. More making a snide remark about the pro-censorship attitudes of certain people, especially when it comes to people talking about "the right side of history" (which is nonsense, because everyone thinks they're on the right side of history when they're caught up in the middle of it; it's only afterward, upon reflection, that we can say that someone was on the right or wrong side of history. And even then, the notion is grounded in a sense of historicism that I... don't fully agree with.)

@JoeBlogs I think, with how #MeToo is going right now, we're seeing how initially benevolent social movements meant to expose abuse and corruption can be high-jacked by opportunists and turned into senseless witch hunts. But, either way, none of us know how future generations will look back on events as they're unfolding.

I guess it's possible that the game existing as a sort of tutorial for how to behave IRL is Sony's issue with the game. It's the only one that makes sense, honestly, when you consider that far more "misogynistic" games exist and are promoted on PS4.

This is not for the players (playas? lol)

@JoeBlogs I don’t whine about that kinda thing though? Sure, I have a problem with the puritanical stance the West takes towards sex. But that is a much larger problem problem that ‘feminists’ and video games.

I just think it’s funny people actually still say ‘right side of history,’ as it couldn’t be more obvious that just saying that means nothing and plenty of propaganda campaigns have posited the same thing.