@TheArt Yeah. I feel Days Gone is redundant when there's the last of us. A sci-fi (although there's Returnal) or a fantasy rpg like the witcher/es is something sony hasn't really done much.
Also a horror game, so idk what happened with Kojima, but it seems sony missed him on that.
Naughty Dog will make a new ip
Santa Monica will make a new ip
Guerrilla Games is supposedly making a multiplayer thing
Insomniac - Not sure what they'll do after Spider-man 2
Sony bend - New ip
Suckerpunch - Pretty sure After Ghost 2, there will be a new ip
Media Molecule - heck I know
Polyphony - well, they ain't changing anytime soon lmao
Asobi - will remain small
London Studio - VR games
Will San Diego make more MLB after the deal with xbox?
Pixelopus - small games
San Mateo: they're a support studio
XDEV - they're a support studio
My point is. Still new ips and still smaller games
@nessisonett but you can't have god of war level games if we pay $1 a month. Microsoft is yet to prove this. Microsoft can't always drop 100m+ bag for each publisher for each game to be day 1 on gp.
I said kind of. Too many delays and silence. Too many bad news.
And no. They don't need gamepass. I think since triple A games sell better on ps, it's better to stay that way for most triple A developers (not smaller studios).
Honestly. They should outright stop making MLB games then. SONY Japan was cut and San Diego doesn't attract people to ps. That's 2 less studios for sony this quick. Oh and that studio that never released a game.
Sony needs to make a move. BluePoint, Housemarque and Kojima are sitting ducks, sony.
Can't wait for that third person action story focused game. That's the only thing that moves consoles. I just hope because it's them, it has a twist and it's fresh.
@IonMagus true. Was referring to ps4 and now.hopefully this pushes devs to make remasters. There are a few key must play ps3 games missing. They are still making remasters (amalut, ninja gaiden and mass effect for example)
I own HZD day 1 edition. Does the complete edition use the same save? Would love to beat the game a 2nd time on ultra hard mode on ngplus and play the dlc for the first time.
@nessisonett but I bought gow, horizon, doom, doom eternal, mhw, dmc5, re2, ghost and others before any score was put out there. So I'm not a slave to the score neither. I just use it with what I was already thinking the game will be score-wise.
I'm betting an 84 with Returnal and that's enough to curmbstomp Nier.
I haven't seen bioshock collection sell more than horizon. Even with the name, being multiplat and being 3 games in 1. It's because it's an old game, and bioshock was more popular than nier back then and probably will be again with the confirmed bioshock 4.
Babylon's fall has way more of chance in competing with Returnal. I would even say it can beat it on sales.
@nessisonett They're not competing. No. Is not utterly ridiculous. Most people that buy it are this hardcore, niche group that pays attention to the score. Not some casual fifa fan.
I didn't buy days gone because it looked meh and the score confirmed it. Same thing with DS, but I felt that looked more boring than Days Gone. If both would've been 90s and word around were saying they were good, I would've gotten them, both. Millions of sales are happening because things like this. A hardcore guy gets the game because it scored high and he was interested, tells his friends and there it goes.
If the remaster gets an 67, the hardcore won't buy it. How will he sell a friend a ps3 game that was received bad?
@nessisonett They get 80s pretty often.That's enough for Returnal to blind a old ass looking game with just NIER name on it. The exception here is that it was a bad game before and it's an old ass game. Fifa, madden etc... are not.
Just admit that the way you are betting is off. yisus christ. I keep repeating myself.
@nessisonett even with the name, it won't sell like nier automata. It's 67 rated game with a slight graphics improvement and some QoL changes. It's a stepping stone for Returnal if Returnal is good enough.
@nessisonett and I could be wrong. Idk if you would admit that. Hard to see that these days. The remaster could score an 80 because it's such a different but still.
If Returnal was named Mass Effect: The Returnal you would be going crazy how much this game will sell.
This is how Apple gets away with things. Because people just see Apple and go woaaaah. It's apple!
@nessisonett because it matters in a major way. It doesn't affect your opinion, but you are talking about overselling a complete new game that it"s current gen with nice graphics that will 100% score higher than 67 backed by sony's marketing.
Just wait. I know what will happen. You are just blind because it has the NIER name in it. Like everyone else in here
@RBMango the game is technically free because you still have to buy plus.
Ps4 ps plus members can add the game through ps store. No need to have a ps5 now.
Idk if these mini campaigns are worth playing them. Just for a few cutscenes? i don't think it detracts from the main attraction which is the mp with friends.
Are you even listening to what I am saying? Instead of spending $70 + $60 you pay $60 + $0
If half of the ps users have to pay $70 later, who gives a damn?
Games drop in prices. If they really want it when they get a ps5, you just add it to the library via the pc store. I am doing exactly that. That's those 60+m problem they have to pay $70 and still the $60 later.
@carlos82 maybe people who buy it get the levels or get enough premium currency to buy them?
Why do you care if others have to pay later? The game's price might drop in 2 months if sony sees is not selling. The thing is, now you don't need to worry to play it day 1.
You got the game for something you already pay for and would have to pay to play that exact game anyways.
You people complain about the price (meaning you complained because you wanted the game, I am hoping that's the reason you complain), and now the game is free and here we are.
@carlos82 lol. So now you want it to be free to play?
You get the game for free. Everytime you want to play it, you will need have to ps plus, so either way, you still need plus to play. Yo got something extra for something you always had to pay. A game.
My god. People really want to downplay anything. Some old gate warlords here. Single Player only!!
@art_of_the_kill yes but 50m ps plus users can add it to their library. Sony lost 50m potential sales. Use pc/phone store. No need for ps5 to add it
But whatever. If it ain't a single player game with god of war or resident evil name on it, I don't want it. Or some top 10 developer is making it. That's how this site acts.
People hating wb for making their games GaaS, but some games actually do it well (killing floor 2, monster hunter world) so it's not the end of the world for anything that is not a single player game.
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Re: Soapbox: I Don't Think Sony's Obsession with PS5 Blockbusters Aligns with Reality
@4kgk2 a AAA VR game?
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Think Sony's Obsession with PS5 Blockbusters Aligns with Reality
@TheArt Yeah. I feel Days Gone is redundant when there's the last of us. A sci-fi (although there's Returnal) or a fantasy rpg like the witcher/es is something sony hasn't really done much.
Also a horror game, so idk what happened with Kojima, but it seems sony missed him on that.
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Think Sony's Obsession with PS5 Blockbusters Aligns with Reality
@RBMango You may be right. We may be still seeing Shawn's games.
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Think Sony's Obsession with PS5 Blockbusters Aligns with Reality
@Sakisa you buying a ps5 for one developer?
Re: Soapbox: I Don't Think Sony's Obsession with PS5 Blockbusters Aligns with Reality
Naughty Dog will make a new ip
Santa Monica will make a new ip
Guerrilla Games is supposedly making a multiplayer thing
Insomniac - Not sure what they'll do after Spider-man 2
Sony bend - New ip
Suckerpunch - Pretty sure After Ghost 2, there will be a new ip
Media Molecule - heck I know
Polyphony - well, they ain't changing anytime soon lmao
Asobi - will remain small
London Studio - VR games
Will San Diego make more MLB after the deal with xbox?
Pixelopus - small games
San Mateo: they're a support studio
XDEV - they're a support studio
My point is. Still new ips and still smaller games
Re: Sony Wants to Bring PlayStation's Most Popular Franchises to Smartphones
@GADG3Tx87 Jim ain't no gamer. He's all about the money. At least someone like Shu, wants money but understands gaming.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@nessisonett You don't, but Jim does, and that's what we will get.
calm down. (saying calm down hasn't calmed down anyone, Ik.)
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@nessisonett cuphead is quality. god of war is quality, but one moves consoles and the other doesn't. That's what Jim is thinking right now.
They seem to fill smaller games with 2nd and 3rd party studios, but none of those games are making me buy the ps5. Just the big block buster games.
I don't like indies, with exceptions.
Re: Rumour: Sony Planning 'Counterpunch' to Xbox Game Pass
@LordSteev I never wanted to return a game. That could've happen with c2077 tho. Was close.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
@nessisonett but you can't have god of war level games if we pay $1 a month. Microsoft is yet to prove this. Microsoft can't always drop 100m+ bag for each publisher for each game to be day 1 on gp.
Re: Rumour: Sony Planning 'Counterpunch' to Xbox Game Pass
@LordSteev I worry more about the yearly. Don't want to pay extra $60 for something I won't use.
Re: Poll: Is PlayStation Losing Ground to Xbox?
I said kind of. Too many delays and silence. Too many bad news.
And no. They don't need gamepass. I think since triple A games sell better on ps, it's better to stay that way for most triple A developers (not smaller studios).
Maybe an indie/double A pass would be better.
Re: Rumour: Sony Planning 'Counterpunch' to Xbox Game Pass
@LordSteev do you think they will increase the price? I wouldn't pay more.
Re: Days Gone 2 Not Given the Greenlight, Sony Bend Working on Something New
Naughty Dog and World Wide Studios brings you!!!
hahahahahahaha
Re: Days Gone 2 Not Given the Greenlight, Sony Bend Working on Something New
@Medic_Alert YUP! They should make the same huge games while letting others devs grow and become one of those, not get absorbed.
I fear for Housemarque.
Re: Promising PS5 FPS Deathloop Delayed Until 14th September
God of War has been delayed to 2024 hahahahahahaha
Re: Resident Evil Re:Verse Beta Pulled Offline Just Hours After Launch
@Amusei I said Resident Evil only.
I agree aswell
Re: You Can Try Out Resident Evil Re:Verse on PS5, PS4 if You Dare
Resident Evil and too much Action never go well together.
Capcom hasn't learn ANYTHING this last decade.
Re: Sony Game MLB The Show 21 Will Be Free with Game Pass on Xbox, Full-Price on PS5, PS4
Honestly. They should outright stop making MLB games then. SONY Japan was cut and San Diego doesn't attract people to ps. That's 2 less studios for sony this quick. Oh and that studio that never released a game.
Sony needs to make a move. BluePoint, Housemarque and Kojima are sitting ducks, sony.
Re: PS Plus April 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Announced
@nessisonett excuse me sir. I don't have a ps4. Most of us don't.
Re: Sony Confirms PS3, PS Vita, PSP Store Closures, Downloads Will Be Retained
@TheRedComet yisus man. I don't want to get married or gets kids because I have other dreams but this surely doesn't motivate me to be open about it.
Re: Sony to Continue Investing in Dreams Developer Media Molecule
Can't wait for that third person action story focused game. That's the only thing that moves consoles.
I just hope because it's them, it has a twist and it's fresh.
Re: PS Store Spring Sale Delivers Big Discounts This Wednesday
@Snake_V5 mmmm. nah. I'm buying the all digital console. Digital is not as bad as cloud.
I can also buy a hardrive and that would be the same as having a huge disc with all my games preserved.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima Has Sold a Staggering 6.5 Million Copies
And last of us part 2? Lol. Did it really never reached 5m?
Re: PS3, PS Vita, and PSP Online Stores to Close This Summer, Says New Report
@IonMagus true. Was referring to ps4 and now.hopefully this pushes devs to make remasters. There are a few key must play ps3 games missing. They are still making remasters (amalut, ninja gaiden and mass effect for example)
Re: Fall Guys Season 4 Arrives Today, Adds New Levels, Squads Mode, Daily Challenges, More
oooooooooooooofff
Re: PS3, PS Vita, and PSP Online Stores to Close This Summer, Says New Report
@Stocksy You can buy external hardrives and store all those digital games on that hardrive and it would function as a huge cd disk.
Re: PlayStation Players Get 10 Free PS4 Games This Spring, Including Horizon Zero Dawn
Question.
I own HZD day 1 edition. Does the complete edition use the same save? Would love to beat the game a 2nd time on ultra hard mode on ngplus and play the dlc for the first time.
Re: Hands On: Incredibly Rough Outriders Demo Kills Our Hope for This Looter Shooter's Launch
Yup. WAS looking forward to it. Hopefully Gotham Knights and Back4Blood deliver the coop experience we need.
Re: Sony Delays Returnal to 30th April for Extra Polish
Everyone is a slave on this site This and nl and purexbox. It's all black and white for everyone in here.
Re: Sony Delays Returnal to 30th April for Extra Polish
@Nepp67 so you are just another that thinks a ps3 game that left a bad taste for people who bought it on ps3 a competition?
Re: Sony Delays Returnal to 30th April for Extra Polish
@nessisonett but I bought gow, horizon, doom, doom eternal, mhw, dmc5, re2, ghost and others before any score was put out there. So I'm not a slave to the score neither. I just use it with what I was already thinking the game will be score-wise.
I'm betting an 84 with Returnal and that's enough to curmbstomp Nier.
I haven't seen bioshock collection sell more than horizon. Even with the name, being multiplat and being 3 games in 1. It's because it's an old game, and bioshock was more popular than nier back then and probably will be again with the confirmed bioshock 4.
Babylon's fall has way more of chance in competing with Returnal. I would even say it can beat it on sales.
Re: Sony Delays Returnal to 30th April for Extra Polish
@nessisonett They're not competing. No. Is not utterly ridiculous. Most people that buy it are this hardcore, niche group that pays attention to the score. Not some casual fifa fan.
I didn't buy days gone because it looked meh and the score confirmed it. Same thing with DS, but I felt that looked more boring than Days Gone. If both would've been 90s and word around were saying they were good, I would've gotten them, both. Millions of sales are happening because things like this. A hardcore guy gets the game because it scored high and he was interested, tells his friends and there it goes.
If the remaster gets an 67, the hardcore won't buy it. How will he sell a friend a ps3 game that was received bad?
Re: Sony Delays Returnal to 30th April for Extra Polish
@nessisonett They get 80s pretty often.That's enough for Returnal to blind a old ass looking game with just NIER name on it. The exception here is that it was a bad game before and it's an old ass game. Fifa, madden etc... are not.
Just admit that the way you are betting is off. yisus christ. I keep repeating myself.
Re: Sony Delays Returnal to 30th April for Extra Polish
@nessisonett even with the name, it won't sell like nier automata. It's 67 rated game with a slight graphics improvement and some QoL changes. It's a stepping stone for Returnal if Returnal is good enough.
Re: Sony Delays Returnal to 30th April for Extra Polish
@nessisonett and I could be wrong. Idk if you would admit that. Hard to see that these days. The remaster could score an 80 because it's such a different but still.
If Returnal was named Mass Effect: The Returnal you would be going crazy how much this game will sell.
This is how Apple gets away with things. Because people just see Apple and go woaaaah. It's apple!
Re: Sony Delays Returnal to 30th April for Extra Polish
@nessisonett because it matters in a major way. It doesn't affect your opinion, but you are talking about overselling a complete new game that it"s current gen with nice graphics that will 100% score higher than 67 backed by sony's marketing.
Just wait. I know what will happen. You are just blind because it has the NIER name in it. Like everyone else in here
Re: Sony Delays Returnal to 30th April for Extra Polish
@nessisonett Same thing could be said about you and Returnal and D. All stars.
It's still a 67 rated game...and a game from 2 gens ago and it didn't look the best even at that time.
Re: Sony Delays Returnal to 30th April for Extra Polish
@Keyblade-Dan the 67 rated ps3 game?
They should be scared about that?
Re: Destruction AllStars' Challenge Series to Be Locked Behind Premium Currency
@RBMango so don't buy them. Enjoy the game for what is for. Mp with your friends.
Re: Destruction AllStars' Challenge Series to Be Locked Behind Premium Currency
@RBMango the game is technically free because you still have to buy plus.
Ps4 ps plus members can add the game through ps store. No need to have a ps5 now.
Idk if these mini campaigns are worth playing them. Just for a few cutscenes? i don't think it detracts from the main attraction which is the mp with friends.
Re: Destruction AllStars' Challenge Series to Be Locked Behind Premium Currency
@carlos82
Are you even listening to what I am saying? Instead of spending $70 + $60 you pay $60 + $0
If half of the ps users have to pay $70 later, who gives a damn?
Games drop in prices. If they really want it when they get a ps5, you just add it to the library via the pc store. I am doing exactly that. That's those 60+m problem they have to pay $70 and still the $60 later.
Re: Destruction AllStars' Challenge Series to Be Locked Behind Premium Currency
@carlos82 If you don't like, move on. At least you didn't spend $70 to know you don't like. I really don't see why is this a bad thing 4 u.
Re: Destruction AllStars' Challenge Series to Be Locked Behind Premium Currency
@carlos82 maybe people who buy it get the levels or get enough premium currency to buy them?
Why do you care if others have to pay later? The game's price might drop in 2 months if sony sees is not selling. The thing is, now you don't need to worry to play it day 1.
You got the game for something you already pay for and would have to pay to play that exact game anyways.
You people complain about the price (meaning you complained because you wanted the game, I am hoping that's the reason you complain), and now the game is free and here we are.
Re: Destruction AllStars' Challenge Series to Be Locked Behind Premium Currency
@carlos82 lol. So now you want it to be free to play?
You get the game for free. Everytime you want to play it, you will need have to ps plus, so either way, you still need plus to play. Yo got something extra for something you always had to pay. A game.
My god. People really want to downplay anything. Some old gate warlords here. Single Player only!!
Re: Destruction AllStars' Challenge Series to Be Locked Behind Premium Currency
@carlos82 why would you want to own a game you need ps plus for?
Let the game be released first.
Re: Destruction AllStars' Challenge Series to Be Locked Behind Premium Currency
@art_of_the_kill yes but 50m ps plus users can add it to their library. Sony lost 50m potential sales. Use pc/phone store. No need for ps5 to add it
But whatever. If it ain't a single player game with god of war or resident evil name on it, I don't want it. Or some top 10 developer is making it. That's how this site acts.
People hating wb for making their games GaaS, but some games actually do it well (killing floor 2, monster hunter world) so it's not the end of the world for anything that is not a single player game.
Re: Destruction AllStars' Challenge Series to Be Locked Behind Premium Currency
@nessisonett how the hell you know everyone will spend less than $70 in the long run? You god or something?
Re: Destruction AllStars' Challenge Series to Be Locked Behind Premium Currency
@carlos82 you are getting the game for free.
Yisus people. You complain is $70 and now are complaining that everything is not free?
Re: Destruction AllStars' Challenge Series to Be Locked Behind Premium Currency
@4kgk2 exactly. Maybe people who buy the game get the campaign for free? Many are jumping the gun.
I don't even care for those. Multiplayer is the important thing