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@Hypoman maybe with god of war they did that, but I think every other game just got a normal delay because of covid etc...

@eltomo Didn't take a stab. Sorry.

People are excited for those 2 (except Returnal's price) and gt7 hasn't been delayed. Gow and Hzf are set for 2021. They also have destruction all stars and as timed exclusives kena, deathloop and ghostwire tokyo. Rumor ff16 is set for this year since project athia is set for jan 2022.

The year hasn't passed, but all sony had in 2014 was infamous ss and tlou remastered. Switch only had smash for 2018. Xbox series has halo infinite (can be delayed) and that's it.

I am not taking a stab. I am just saying ps5 is looking to have the best first 365 days of any console exclusives.

@eltomo They have miles with raytracing 60fps, 4k and demon souls which is the best looking game atm imo. A while? ratchet can't run on ps4 consoles. Returnal will also utilize the ssd in a similar manner. gt7 is next-gen only. I can't say much about hfw and gow2 but we have to wait. If graphics are your concern... don't you have a kirby as an avatar?

There's more of a reason getting a ps5 first year than ps4. I know that much. I wish I had time for it.

I think it's the opposite. This year alone I am interested in 14 new released games. Which beats my previous record: 6.

@Dezzy70 I highly doubt gow and horizon will wow in graphics. I will be able to tell it looks better, but it won't be infamous 2 to infamous second son or killzone 3 to shadowfall type of wow.

I am going to keep my expectations lower for graphics and higher for gameplay and new combat mechanics.

@ThaBEN About the same, yeah. It has stances (which I only use one). The map is not semi-open world. It's like mario levels, but it has its differences. You can use different spirits and in the second one a second form.

@Dezzy70 If horizon and god of war gameplay trailers don't wow me, no game will this gen in terms of graphics.

@eltomo sure. and give xbox a year of avantage? they are more prepared than ps4 time. Did you see the meh games they got out in the 1st year?

@Gaming365247 I can use ps5 games avatars tho

It's not what you heard.

It's what you're hearing.

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Someone or something.

Look at the sky

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Elden ring

@theMEGAniggle Thanks, although I don't always do.

The game could be bad and these people would have said I told you so, but they are not in a position to jump in conclusions as of today.

Yes. People are blinded by brands. It's why apple keeps selling their tech.

@Classic_console Read my mind. I would add final fantasy 16 if luminous learned from ff15.

Botw2 is set for 2021? Cause if that's coming, ain't nothing beating it. In this scenario. I think horizon and gow can compete with it

@JAMes-BroWWWn Looooooooooooool. I saw their games list on google. hahahahahahahaha

Well I hope this is their fly me to the moon moment

If Horizon and God of War get delayed, who do you think wins goty?

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both ps5 and ps4 have 3 current exclusives out of the top 10 in usa charts.

Bit of a shame sports and cod always dominate.

@Akurusu Oh. The game awards chat. Oh. That is so legit. There are 6 games nominated, 5 out of 6 chances someone won't like the game that won, winning.
Use logic.

You haven't called anything. You just pick whatever little group said and make it seem like it's a fact.

@Fenbops No problem. I'm just not a pro-service video game guy. That's all. I think I already established that here and on purexbox. Saw the games the service currently has and I either play them or would buy the few that I care about.

I'm trying to convince my brother to play resident evil 7 but he's scared and to play nier automata but he think's it's anime stuff, but even he, which barely has played anything, didn't find value in it. He tried doom eternal and monster hunter but deleted them and only sticked with gears 5 and only because of the multiplayer, hence a point why those games work well on a service.

@Fenbops That's fine that you think gears is more worth it. Maybe because of the multiplayer. Played it on my brother's xbox and it's still pretty fun.

Thing is. These games have no mtx. Look at how Halo Infinite will be the last halo and it will be a GaaS. Same with forza. Fable could be one too. Like a monster hunter. So they can afford it because kids these days spent more on mtx than games themselves. Yes. I know they are making Avowed, Hellblade 2 (which the first one was an indie game) etc... but we don't know the length of these games yet. Outerworlds looked like a double A game but was priced as a triple A.

@Odium You're not a minority. The most vocal people are the minority but they seem big.

Look at tlou2 and its 74 user voted awards. All that hate, disliked bars for what? Turn down for what is what ND said.

@theMEGAniggle I'd say Ratchet is not worth it and Returnal is. Even Detroit wasn't worth the $60.

Sony prices their game with what they think it should be priced. Lost Legacy, Shadow of The Colossus, Sackboy, Miles weren't priced the highest.

So they think it's not at the right price because of the genre? Hades almost won goty with that genre. Dark Souls is a good comparison. If it was easy, it would be a decent length game, but there is a purpose for that. Idk. This is a new genre in the triple A style. It's something different. Same people that say Death Stranding is worth the $60? Where are they now? Oh. Because it doesn't have kojima name on it. Ofc. Is Callisto not worth the $70 too? What about Bioshock 4 made by that new and unknown studio? Oh. Has Bioshock 4 name on it. Right.

Like Reggie said. Every triple A dev was an indie dev before.

@Fenbops I agree and disagree with sammy depending on the game. D. All stars? Yeah. Seems like a free to play with good graphics, but Returnal could have as much content as gow or hfw.

I won't get it since I don't have a ps5 or plan to anytime soon, but I would have if the game reviews say it's worth it. He might change his mind. Nothing is definite and that's the behaviour we are seeing. Nobody knows, but act like it's going to be a 5 hour game.

Well, because you don't have to for gears, you shouldn't for Returnal? Not every third party publisher and console manufacturer has to make a service now so you are able to afford all the games. Sorry. This is not a reality.

@Octane Especially if you have to feed 23 (30) studios + third party games you put in there with just ocassional 15 million users (although I think it caps at 30m after the 9th gen is over).

@Fenbops well. Because you have gamepass, games come at no additional cost. It's that how good you think xbox games studios games are?

That the only reason you would play them is because they are free on gamepass? Jim Ryan already said they are going the premium way.

I would pay $70 for gears 6, but hey. I guess I find value in xbox games.

@Fenbops Then wait some more. I really don't see a problem. Do you want it or not? It's worth the $70 for me if it gets 85 or similar score on metacritic for me, so sony won't undervalue it if people find it valuable. The game won't flop either. People will buy later and they'll make the intended earnings still.

@theMEGAniggle I think people just see it as a triple A game made by an indie studio and that it's a new IP. If it had mass effect on it, people would be saying it's totally worth the $70. Funny thing. This look waaaaaay better than mass effect andromeda.

I hope it gets 85+ in reviews. Should be enough to convince the naysayers. I'm interested in it because the alien/planet theme wasn't used at all last gen. Except for doom and the failures of mass effect andromeda and anthem.

@Fenbops They don't need gamepass. Wait for it to be on sale at the price you would buy it. If you don't want it that much, you will wait. Simple as that.

Looks great! We just need a state of play demon souls style!

@Daveuppercut Oof. I've seen people call this a mindless shooter like doom. Makes my head spin a bit. Idk what's so mindless about a high awareness and reflexes for them. I think they want a connect 4 puzzle vs an ai during fights.

I think their $70 is based on the replayability of the game. I hope the game is 20 hours to beat long because I have seen so many this ain't a $70 game comments. Although I would say it's more valuable than D. All stars. If it's 20 hour with a high replayability I think it offers as much content vs GoW 2018. Maybe more depending how drastically changes. Maybe you will never see a lot of types of aliens or weapons in your 1st playthrough.

Glad I initially thought of getting one in 2022. I probably wouldn't have gotten one.

Can't wait to be 2022 and opening it. The backlog will be HUUUUUGE

@jdv95 that would be a bummer. Want something that isn't the equivalent of what sony is doing. Avowed for example.

@2cents I don't think the current gamepass library offerings is good either. It's decent. Has mhw, niero automata, resident evil 7, doom eternal and a bunch of gears and halo... and a bunch of indies. I played most of that list so it doesn't grab my attention. It's a play all of our exclusives service. So people won't pay for it until those games start hitting.

@Royalblues Amazon has 2 crap games and that little horror indie game google is making attract nobody. I think tencent has a better chance at competing (they earn more money than all 3 console makers) than amazon and google.

@Col_McCafferty I only have a ps4, but I bet I play more than most people that have all 4 platforms.

@deathaxe Give it time. I think gamepass caps at 30m

@LightingThor007 I remember that horrible cgi for the deer in a walking dead episode. HBO wouldn't let that slide. HBO is quality. WD was cheap because of the makeup

@Flaming_Kaiser I hope. Sorry for being so negative. I'm just tired of it. My facebook timeline, when it comes to witcher, it's full of Henry Canvill handsomeness and nothing about the tv show itself. I don't think they are converting non gamers to gamers, which I think xcloud would do a better job at that.

@Rudy_Manchego I think the reason spiderman ps4 is exclusive is because they let disney use spider-man in the movies. Honestly they should make a trade. Sony has gaming rights and other devs pay sony to use them in games and Disney does whatever with spider-man in the mcu

@Flaming_Kaiser They keep trying to make video games, movies and I'm too dissapointed in general already.

If Uncharted and The Last of Us fail, there is no way games can be translated into movies, so I hope it fails so devs stop trying to ruin the name of the franchises with movies.

Monster Hunter had m4 and aks, Assassin creed movie was meh, Tomb raider was meh, wow was meh, detective pikachu was ok, the witcher is just ok. DOOM annhilition was horrible and doom with the rock looks bad. Resident Evil always get bad scores. Etc... etc.. etc... It's time to stop. It just doesn't work and I am especially worried they handle those 2 ip in the wrong way and I just don't want them to keep ruining gaming stories to non gamers and gamers.

Also, this motivates video game creators to focus more on cutscenes. Half of Tlou 2 was walking and talking or cutscenes. DS seemed it didn't have a gameplay director.

The gaming stories should stay where they were intended for. Games

Project Athia in a year? with no name? Hmmm. Knowing Square, it's probably 2032, right? typo with the 2 I think?

Thought Kena was march 1 already

I think 1-2 years before it's fine to announce a game. Elder Scrolls 6 was pointless when they haven't finished starfield, as an example.

Well. To answer. Horizon, GoW, Ghost, InFamous, Killzone and Death Stranding (oh wait, it's already a movie),

I hope it fails. Witcher is the best video game related I've seen and it's just an ok show with potential. I am tired of these tv adaptation.

@get2sammyb more people could enjoy is what I mean. Instead of 20m, 50m.

@Kang81 I agree. Cliffhangers are bad and that was a 9 hours one. It worked because I understood Abby and felt empathy, but it came at a cost

been getting all these free cods that if they would be physical games, they would be under layers and layers of dust. You are never making me comeback to cod like this activision.

People already buy their games no matter what, why not change it drastically?

@Logonogo I think it's a great game. I think Nioh 2 is a better samurai like game.

I am surprised it even got nominated.