My launch PS5 has been shutting down without any warning whatsoever since I started playing this on Thursday. The first time it did it the PS5 felt really hot so I waited a while, gave the console a good clean and tried again later. It was well ventilated too. Happened 4 times now in the last few days while playing Death Stranding 2. Twice while I was in the menus. and it has not done this previously with any other games, but maybe my console is just dying, I'm not sure. It was only really hot the first time it did this. All the other hard shut downs if felt fine to the touch when it happened. Not once has it warned me the console is too hot. It just turns off mid game.
I'm currently about 7 hours into Death Stranding 2. Absolutely gutted as I'm loving it but scared to play it now for fear of corrupting my data. I've just ordered a replacement and upgraded to a PS5 Pro so I'm just waiting for that to arrive.
On the plus side. I am super excited to play the game with the Pro enhancements soon. It's forced me into getting something I otherwise wouldn't have got. 😀
It isn't quite a full-price game on PSN. At least not the usual £70 full-price. I purchased it on release at £55 on the store. And with some Shopto PSN credit, I got it for about £50 which I thought is a fair price.
I'll be booking the day off work and be buying this game on launch day which is something I hardly ever do nowadays. But, no way that I'll pay for early access.
£50 is the max I will spend on games. Unless it's a Naughty Dog game or Kojima game then it's day 1.
For the most part, I just can't justify spending more than £50 when I have other things like a family to feed and bills to pay so I'll usually wait a few months for the first good discount sales.
I will be getting this if it's priced sensibly. It's not gonna replace Tetris Effect for me but will probably be one of them games I'll keep installed on my PS5 at all times.
If they are scaling back D2 content next year as has been reported and they are not working on D3 then what are the remaining 850 Bungie staff working on. Besides finishing up the 2 remaining episodes this year and Marathon that is.
Love what they showed of DS2 can't wait for that next year, and then I lost my s... with this announcement. I know next to nothing about it but I already know both games are Day one buys for me. Something that a rarely do anymore. Super excited 😆
I don't know anything about games development but I'd love to know why they couldn't just make and release the base game, then pass it onto another team to continue development.
Or build a team specifically to allow ND to move on. If the game was successful enough, it would've been worth it.
Isn't that what Respawn did? Built a completely separate Apex Legends team so they could still make other games like Star Wars Survivor and keep supporting Apex at the same time too.
It just seems like a waste to throw away all the hard work ND must have put into The Last of Us online over the last 3+ years or so.
I can understand the opinions that £200 is too expensive but when breaking it down it's pretty good really. The Backbone is £100 on its own, the dualsense controllers are around £60 and this has an 8inch screen included.
@Bez87 This was always the way... What do you mean? I think you misunderstood my comment. I'm mostly referring to the fact I'd prefer that the collection of games were accessible within the one menu like most collections are. Seems a bit half baked. This review and my comment have nothing to do with a remake or the Snake Eater remake.
Also, I've made no judgement, I haven't even bought it yet. The MGS games are absolute classics which I plan to buy (again) soon. Just not at full price. 😀
The review reads more like a 7 or 8 so I'll take it. I do realise these things are subjective.
For me, I have no real interest in Multiplayer other than trying it out with my kids. I'll mostly play it as a regular 2D Sonic game which is exactly what I want.
@LiamCroft I just want to respectfully add a couple of points around your mention of discounts for games after launch.
I think a review SHOULD take into account the RRP. I'll use this as an example. Call of Duty is a £70 game at launch. If it's discounted to £30, it's still a £70 game at launch, just now heavily discounted so better value for money when a customer is getting a £70 game for £30.
Even more so for DLC. If a 10/10 rated random DLC releases at £20 and another 10/10 rated DLC of the exact same quality and interest comes out at double the price. Which am I going go for?... The one that's £20! So the RRP is something I need to consider as part of the review. The price the publishers set should also be reviewed. Have they priced the DLC too high?
You said "does a score go up if the price goes down" no, but does a review score go up when a game gets patched and is in a much better state 6 months later? No. It's based on when the game launched.
Doesn't need to be a big deal made about it in a review. But I do feel it's an important piece of information for a reader to consider. You have a section at the top that says who the publisher is, who the developer is etc. I'd love to see RRP as part of that. It add some context to the review based on the price the game came out at.
Is it stands with this DLC, based on the review and knowledge that it's $10 at launch. It sounds like they could have sold it for double and still be worth it. They should be commended for pricing it so low.
@LiamCroft great thanks. I get that it's a review of the game itself but I do think cost really should factored in especially for a DLC as they can vary in price dramatically. Value for money etc. But I suppose I could have simply Google'd it. Thanks again. $9.99 is a no brainer.
Short is fine with me, especially for VR. It's actually a plus as I have too many games. It seems to be price reasonably too so after a sale it's going to get very tempting to pick this up. Looks great from what I've seen online.
Hmmm part of me feels they've rebooted as a way to remove most characters so they can then add them back in at a later date and charge. Will wait for the Ultimate edition 2 years on from release.
Not heard the podcast but why is Gary Whitta bringing that up? Other than to stir the pot. He clearly prefers Xbox. Always known that. I enjoyed Rogue One but he does annoy me sometimes. I'll stick with Sacred Symbols.
@Quintumply Really sorry but I feel the following is, while true. It's still unintentionally misleading-
"it should be noted that the original arrived just as COVID-19 was becoming a major concern, meaning attendance at movie theatres was dwindling"
The film launched domestically on February 14th. Covid was a thing then, but lockdown wasn't until a good month or so later around 19th March and later (23rd March in the UK).
It was only really the last week or two that it effected numbers up to the point going to the cinema was stopped in March entirely. Sonic 1 was definitely impacted by the pandemic, no doubt. But I feel it was negligible at launch. It was impacted mostly at the tail end of the theatrical release window.
My point being just that Sonic 2 numbers are even more impressive considering some people are still avoiding cinema now, certainly more than in mid February 2020, when people didn't realize how bad thing we're going to get.
Not quite sure why I had to share that but, I've just had a coffee and I'm killing some time so maybe that's why. 😃
@Corc11 The issue is if this wasn't an always online game then this wouldn't be a problem in the first place.
It's a first world problem indeed. And we all know more important things are going on in the world. But that is not relevant to this topic. Bad things are happening in the world all the time.
It doesn't mean people can't have issues with games and services they work hard to pay for and can't access. The simple solution to this would have been allow the single player to be available offline.
@Corc11 You say play something else. Why should they. People bought the game for £70 (or equivalent) they should be able to play whenever they want.
I myself get about 1 day a week that I can play games. Sometimes less with work and family. So that free time is valuable to me. When I have that little bit of time I want to play whatever. If it's GT7 then tough luck. Not allowed today. Better luck next week.... Or the week after that if the servers are online then...
I don't understand why people defend companies like this. It's anti-consumer.
Already added to my library when it dropped so now I can't get the Directors Cut (which I was planning to do) without paying full price. Unless I contact support, great. 🙄
@Yorgen What you said gave me an interesting thought that I'm suprised doesn't happen. Games could release at a slightly lower price for a limited window say the first week of launch at £10/$10 off.
This way people have an incentive to buy early and are rewarded someway for being essentially final beta testers. And the publishers wins as it surely convinces more to buy at launch.
I think sony are most likely to acquire Capcom then Square-Enix. Either of them I'd be happy with. But I'd especially love SEGA for the history and huge list of amazing IP's they've created over the years. I have a feeling they'll end up with Microsoft though. Hope I'm wrong.
@ChrisDeku Yeah that's what I thought when I was reading this article. They bought Respawn in 2017. Apex Legends legends released in 2019. They hadn't released Jedi Fallen Order either. Respawn would be a lot more expensive today.
@Spiders that's fair enough. I agree defending corporations is a bit daft. For me, I'd defend the value of Plus. I find sometimes people forgot the amount of content they're getting. We get some really great games (and some not so good ones). Everyone is entitled to an opinion of course, I just think people forget it's the price of one game a year.
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Re: Digital Sales Make Death Stranding 2 PS5 Estimates Much Stronger
I really hope this continues to do well. Such an incredible game.
Re: Sony Reiterates Big PS5 Pro Graphics Upgrade for 2026
@wildcat_kickz yeah I've been wondering the same. If it will be a seamless transition with existing games or if they'll need to be patched.
Re: Sony Reiterates Big PS5 Pro Graphics Upgrade for 2026
Niiiice. My PS5 Pro arrived yesterday so this is a great bonus to hear about.
Side note. Death Stranding 2 is beautiful on the Pro 😀
Re: Death Stranding 2 Is Causing Some PS5s to Overheat
My launch PS5 has been shutting down without any warning whatsoever since I started playing this on Thursday. The first time it did it the PS5 felt really hot so I waited a while, gave the console a good clean and tried again later. It was well ventilated too. Happened 4 times now in the last few days while playing Death Stranding 2. Twice while I was in the menus. and it has not done this previously with any other games, but maybe my console is just dying, I'm not sure. It was only really hot the first time it did this. All the other hard shut downs if felt fine to the touch when it happened. Not once has it warned me the console is too hot. It just turns off mid game.
I'm currently about 7 hours into Death Stranding 2. Absolutely gutted as I'm loving it but scared to play it now for fear of corrupting my data. I've just ordered a replacement and upgraded to a PS5 Pro so I'm just waiting for that to arrive.
On the plus side. I am super excited to play the game with the Pro enhancements soon. It's forced me into getting something I otherwise wouldn't have got. 😀
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Is Selling Extraordinarily Well on PS5, Surpasses 1.2 Million Copies Since Launch
It isn't quite a full-price game on PSN. At least not the usual £70 full-price. I purchased it on release at £55 on the store. And with some Shopto PSN credit, I got it for about £50 which I thought is a fair price.
Re: Death Stranding 2 Puts Early Access Incentives Under the Microscope All Over Again
I'll be booking the day off work and be buying this game on launch day which is something I hardly ever do nowadays. But, no way that I'll pay for early access.
Re: $100 for GTA 6 Is 'A Bridge Too Far' Even for Rockstar, Says Analyst
£50 is the max I will spend on games. Unless it's a Naughty Dog game or Kojima game then it's day 1.
For the most part, I just can't justify spending more than £50 when I have other things like a family to feed and bills to pay so I'll usually wait a few months for the first good discount sales.
Re: Terminally Ill Fan Flown to Gearbox to Play Borderlands 4 Early
Absolutely love to see stuff like this. So heart warming. Respect to all involved.
Re: The Story of Shenmue Is Far from Over, Says ININ
"the story is far from over" does sound like more than just a port the way that is worded.
Wishful thinking I know but Shenmue 4 and a season 2 of Shenmue: the animation please.
I'm feeling like a replay of the original game is due soon. It's been a few years.
Re: Tetris Time Warp Has You Clearing Lines Across Four Different Eras in Tetris Forever
I will be getting this if it's priced sensibly. It's not gonna replace Tetris Effect for me but will probably be one of them games I'll keep installed on my PS5 at all times.
Re: PSVR2 Action Game Vendetta Forever Has Big Superhot Energy, Launches in October
But PSVR2 has no games? 🤣
Seriously though, this looks brilliant. Will definitely pick this up.
Re: A Big Bungie Project Has Been Cancelled, But It Wasn't Destiny 3
If they are scaling back D2 content next year as has been reported and they are not working on D3 then what are the remaining 850 Bungie staff working on. Besides finishing up the 2 remaining episodes this year and Marathon that is.
Re: Talking Point: Is It Finally the Right Time to Buy PSVR2?
@Max_the_German https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sony-has-reportedly-made-cuts-to-vr-development-with-only-2-titles-currently-planned/
Re: Free Hoverboards Is the Best News Destiny 2's Had in Quite Some Time
Definitely getting this. Although I want a Back to the Future Mattel Hoverboard. Surely that's coming.
Re: Metro Awakening Tells a Series Origin Story on PSVR2, Out This Year
I love the look of this. Great to see another premium looking PSVR2 game coming.
Re: Sony Partners with Hideo Kojima on Physint, Basically Sounds Like a Metal Gear Successor
Love what they showed of DS2 can't wait for that next year, and then I lost my s... with this announcement. I know next to nothing about it but I already know both games are Day one buys for me. Something that a rarely do anymore. Super excited 😆
Re: The Last of Us' Cancelled PS5 Multiplayer Was 'More Fun' Than Any Other Online Game
I don't know anything about games development but I'd love to know why they couldn't just make and release the base game, then pass it onto another team to continue development.
Or build a team specifically to allow ND to move on. If the game was successful enough, it would've been worth it.
Isn't that what Respawn did? Built a completely separate Apex Legends team so they could still make other games like Star Wars Survivor and keep supporting Apex at the same time too.
It just seems like a waste to throw away all the hard work ND must have put into The Last of Us online over the last 3+ years or so.
Re: Players Point Out Destiny 2's New Crossover Cosmetics Probably Cost More Than The Witcher 3 and All Its DLC
I love Destiny 2, I buy the expansions but I would never buy any armor sets at anything close to these prices.
Re: Hardware Review: PS Portal Is the Perfect PS5 Companion (For Some)
I can understand the opinions that £200 is too expensive but when breaking it down it's pretty good really. The Backbone is £100 on its own, the dualsense controllers are around £60 and this has an 8inch screen included.
Re: Talking Point: As PS5 Turns 3, How Are You Feeling About It?
3 years already. I love my PS5 so much I have 2. And I don't miss my Jet fan of a PS4.
Re: Only Sony Will Allow Crazy PS5, PS4 Indie Horror Christmas Massacre
Looks like a fun Christmas game. I might have to pick this up. Would love if it has the classic PS1 startup screen.
Re: Suck the Blood of the Living in Vampire: The Masquerade - Justice on PSVR2
Looks great. Another cool looking VR game to add to my wishlist for when I can afford to pick up a PSVR2.
Very happy to see a VR stealth game too. Suprised we don't get more of them, it seems a perfect fit being inside the game world.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Is a PS5 Masterpiece, According to Super Smash Bros Maker
@PCPS4XB an 8 and masterpiece don't make sense either. Granted it wasn't Push Square that said it's a masterpiece but I wasn't being serious.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Is a PS5 Masterpiece, According to Super Smash Bros Maker
I was only joking.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Is a PS5 Masterpiece, According to Super Smash Bros Maker
But it's only an 8/10 according to Push Square.... I'm sorry 😁
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection (PS5) - Three Classics in One Messy Bundle
@Bez87 This was always the way... What do you mean? I think you misunderstood my comment. I'm mostly referring to the fact I'd prefer that the collection of games were accessible within the one menu like most collections are. Seems a bit half baked. This review and my comment have nothing to do with a remake or the Snake Eater remake.
Also, I've made no judgement, I haven't even bought it yet. The MGS games are absolute classics which I plan to buy (again) soon. Just not at full price. 😀
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection (PS5) - Three Classics in One Messy Bundle
It's a real shame they didn't put more effort into this collection of classic games. I'll still pick it up but will wait until it's around half price.
Re: Sonic Superstars (PS5) - A Solid 2D Sonic Game, If You Play It Solo
The review reads more like a 7 or 8 so I'll take it. I do realise these things are subjective.
For me, I have no real interest in Multiplayer other than trying it out with my kids. I'll mostly play it as a regular 2D Sonic game which is exactly what I want.
Re: Assassin's Creed Mirage (PS5) - A Solid But Slightly Dated Return to the Series' Roots
@ShogunRok On the map size. Does it compare to AC2, Brotherhood etc or smaller still?
Re: Resident Evil 4: Separate Ways (PS5) - Ada Wong Fronts More Sublime RE Action
@ArashiKageTaro Nice. Are people actually complaining about that price. Absolute bargain.
Re: Resident Evil 4: Separate Ways (PS5) - Ada Wong Fronts More Sublime RE Action
@LiamCroft I just want to respectfully add a couple of points around your mention of discounts for games after launch.
I think a review SHOULD take into account the RRP. I'll use this as an example. Call of Duty is a £70 game at launch. If it's discounted to £30, it's still a £70 game at launch, just now heavily discounted so better value for money when a customer is getting a £70 game for £30.
Even more so for DLC. If a 10/10 rated random DLC releases at £20 and another 10/10 rated DLC of the exact same quality and interest comes out at double the price. Which am I going go for?... The one that's £20! So the RRP is something I need to consider as part of the review. The price the publishers set should also be reviewed. Have they priced the DLC too high?
You said "does a score go up if the price goes down" no, but does a review score go up when a game gets patched and is in a much better state 6 months later? No. It's based on when the game launched.
Doesn't need to be a big deal made about it in a review. But I do feel it's an important piece of information for a reader to consider. You have a section at the top that says who the publisher is, who the developer is etc. I'd love to see RRP as part of that. It add some context to the review based on the price the game came out at.
Is it stands with this DLC, based on the review and knowledge that it's $10 at launch. It sounds like they could have sold it for double and still be worth it. They should be commended for pricing it so low.
Re: Resident Evil 4: Separate Ways (PS5) - Ada Wong Fronts More Sublime RE Action
@LiamCroft great thanks. I get that it's a review of the game itself but I do think cost really should factored in especially for a DLC as they can vary in price dramatically. Value for money etc. But I suppose I could have simply Google'd it. Thanks again. $9.99 is a no brainer.
Re: Resident Evil 4: Separate Ways (PS5) - Ada Wong Fronts More Sublime RE Action
Unless I missed it the review doesn't mention anything about the cost of the DLC.
Re: PS5 Quietly Crosses 4 Million Units Milestone in Japan
I think somewhere around 105m and 115m all told.
Although I think PS4 is around 117m so it would be nice to see PS5 top PS4 sales. I'm sure Sony would be happy around that ballpark regardless.
I suppose it all depends on the support and quality of games over the next few years though.
We are definitely entering the peak years for console sales now for a console generation.
Re: Mini Review: Synapse (PSVR2) – Some Incredible Gameplay But Not Enough Content
It's got David Hayter in. How's that not mentioned in the pros.
Re: Mini Review: Synapse (PSVR2) – Some Incredible Gameplay But Not Enough Content
Short is fine with me, especially for VR. It's actually a plus as I have too many games. It seems to be price reasonably too so after a sale it's going to get very tempting to pick this up. Looks great from what I've seen online.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Director Ed Boon Can't Wait for You to See First PS5 Gameplay This Week
Yeah I shouldn't post until I've at least had my first coffee of the day.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Director Ed Boon Can't Wait for You to See First PS5 Gameplay This Week
@aj21009 Yeah I know. I got it wrong. Thanks.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Director Ed Boon Can't Wait for You to See First PS5 Gameplay This Week
Not played UMK11 for a while. In my mind I remember it as 3D but yeah guess it is fixed 2D. Ignore what I said then. I've just woke up.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Director Ed Boon Can't Wait for You to See First PS5 Gameplay This Week
I notice on the PSN description it says 2D fighting game. Wonder if they are scaling back the movement.
Re: Rumour: Mortal Kombat 1 Is the Next Main Entry on PS5
Hmmm part of me feels they've rebooted as a way to remove most characters so they can then add them back in at a later date and charge. Will wait for the Ultimate edition 2 years on from release.
Re: Devolver Debunks Ludicrous Rumour Claiming Sony Paid to Keep Cult of the Lamb Off Xbox Game Pass
Not heard the podcast but why is Gary Whitta bringing that up? Other than to stir the pot. He clearly prefers Xbox. Always known that. I enjoyed Rogue One but he does annoy me sometimes. I'll stick with Sacred Symbols.
Re: Sonic the Hedgehog 2's Opening Weekend the Biggest of Any Video Game Movie Ever
@Quintumply Really sorry but I feel the following is, while true. It's still unintentionally misleading-
"it should be noted that the original arrived just as COVID-19 was becoming a major concern, meaning attendance at movie theatres was dwindling"
The film launched domestically on February 14th. Covid was a thing then, but lockdown wasn't until a good month or so later around 19th March and later (23rd March in the UK).
It was only really the last week or two that it effected numbers up to the point going to the cinema was stopped in March entirely. Sonic 1 was definitely impacted by the pandemic, no doubt. But I feel it was negligible at launch. It was impacted mostly at the tail end of the theatrical release window.
My point being just that Sonic 2 numbers are even more impressive considering some people are still avoiding cinema now, certainly more than in mid February 2020, when people didn't realize how bad thing we're going to get.
Not quite sure why I had to share that but, I've just had a coffee and I'm killing some time so maybe that's why. 😃
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Has Been Offline All Day
@Corc11 The issue is if this wasn't an always online game then this wouldn't be a problem in the first place.
It's a first world problem indeed. And we all know more important things are going on in the world. But that is not relevant to this topic. Bad things are happening in the world all the time.
It doesn't mean people can't have issues with games and services they work hard to pay for and can't access. The simple solution to this would have been allow the single player to be available offline.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Has Been Offline All Day
@Corc11 You say play something else. Why should they. People bought the game for £70 (or equivalent) they should be able to play whenever they want.
I myself get about 1 day a week that I can play games. Sometimes less with work and family. So that free time is valuable to me. When I have that little bit of time I want to play whatever. If it's GT7 then tough luck. Not allowed today. Better luck next week.... Or the week after that if the servers are online then...
I don't understand why people defend companies like this. It's anti-consumer.
Re: Sloppy Sony Infrastructure Blocks Ghost of Tsushima PS4 to PS5 Upgrades After PS Plus Legends Claim
Already added to my library when it dropped so now I can't get the Directors Cut (which I was planning to do) without paying full price. Unless I contact support, great. 🙄
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Update 1.07 Is Available Now, Here Are the Patch Notes
@Yorgen What you said gave me an interesting thought that I'm suprised doesn't happen. Games could release at a slightly lower price for a limited window say the first week of launch at £10/$10 off.
This way people have an incentive to buy early and are rewarded someway for being essentially final beta testers. And the publishers wins as it surely convinces more to buy at launch.
Re: Sony More Likely Than Microsoft to Acquire a Japanese Game Company, Analyst Explains
I think sony are most likely to acquire Capcom then Square-Enix. Either of them I'd be happy with. But I'd especially love SEGA for the history and huge list of amazing IP's they've created over the years. I have a feeling they'll end up with Microsoft though. Hope I'm wrong.
Re: Sony 'Vastly Overpaid' in 'Desperation' for Bungie, Says Outspoken Analyst Michael Pachter
@ChrisDeku Yeah that's what I thought when I was reading this article. They bought Respawn in 2017. Apex Legends legends released in 2019. They hadn't released Jedi Fallen Order either. Respawn would be a lot more expensive today.
Re: PS Plus November 2021 PS5, PS4 Games Announced
@Spiders that's fair enough. I agree defending corporations is a bit daft. For me, I'd defend the value of Plus. I find sometimes people forgot the amount of content they're getting. We get some really great games (and some not so good ones). Everyone is entitled to an opinion of course, I just think people forget it's the price of one game a year.