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The new Xbox will have Steam... so anything that gets ported to PC will be available on xbox. That means God of War, Last of Us, Horizon Zero Dawn, Spider-Man, etc will ALL be available on xbox. Obviously, that includes any future titles that playstation decides to port. In my eyes, Sony is just preparing for that eventuality. They're not even ahead of the curve, they're just going with the flow.

@Old-Red if you can't beat 'em, join them - and then beat them at their own game

@rusty82 lol, sadly I'm not. But I'm from the states, so we never called it that here. In all seriousness though, Bungie straight up copied someone else's work. Some of the marketing may look similar to HZD, but the gameplay looks more like Palworld tbh

Where was all this outrage when it came to Marathon?

@CutchuSlow seriously? Haha, Microsoft is currently is the most played game publisher on PS5. CoD alone rakes in so much money

@CutchuSlow it won't matter even if they exclude xbox, since their next hardware will include steam. Meaning anyone on xbox will be able to play Playstation titles regardless. I'm sure that's partly why they're deciding to potentially branch out now

I doubt anything will pull them back from their hat and over priced shop decisions

@lindos this post was resurrected from 5 years ago and that user is banned lol. Goes to show just how little has come down the pipeline this generation

@DennisReynolds 1440, and yes. My pc was $1900 after taxes, but I also have 6TB in my computer. I'm glad you're OK with your purchase. You'd have to be for falling for that cash grab. My point is, after you've paid for ps plus, you'll end up spending as much as a good starter pc. With access to any and all games. Not the short list currently available for the pro. The regular ps5 is the better deal. I have one, and very much enjoy it. But it's definitely not what I consider to be the optimal way to play

@DennisReynolds if you're OK spending $700+ not including online play and a handful of games that are actually optimized for that system, good on you. It's a waste of hard earned money imo. I play Cyberpunk at 60fps with full ray and path tracing at all the highest settings. How does that game play on the pro?

If you purchase the base ps plus for 5 years after that, you've paid just as much as I did to build my brother a decent starter. His pc definitely out performs the pro. Just depends on what you want to prioritize

Edit: I actually could have built it cheaper as well, but opted to put in 4TB of SSD storage

120fps or bust

@DennisReynolds I built a PC for my brother that was $1200 that definitely outperforms the pro...so, yeah. My pc was under 2k and it's boss. So I'll just chalk it up to you not knowing what you're talking about.

Also, how many games are actually optimizing for the pro? Not enough to pay into the cash grab

@DennisReynolds this is a common misconception. You really don't need to to spend thousands to have a PC that would blow a playstation out of the water. Don't get me wrong, I love my playstation, and there's value in plug n play systems. Games will always be designed for console though, so you don't need top shelf CPUs or GPUs to get 60fps. Not unless you're trying to play Skyrim with 4k mods or have a rig that can stream and play at the same time.

Edit: On top of that, you don't have to spend anything to play online games.

Once xbox owners can have access to steam they won't need an official port. So they may as well. Microsoft is already the biggest game publisher for Sony at the moment anyway. Call of Duty alone probably accounts for a huge chunk of the regular playstation gamers

People overpaying for cosmetics and knick knacks is why these companies think they can keep charging us more and more. A collecters edition without a physical copy of the game is also laughable

@Dalamar exactly lol. I actually remember a lot of people upset that Black Myth didn't take the prize. I haven't played either, just to be clear

@UltimateOtaku91 @logicstrikesagain Sony USED to regularly put out single player bangers. All my favorite games this past generation haven't been from Sony though. Ghost of Yotei may be good, and I know people love Death Stranding. So, now that they're discussing the PS6, I'm glad that they're finally producing something other than a Concord sized mess. Still, none of it was enough to prevent me from building a PC

@Slayer25c ok, so there was Astro Bot. Anything else? That game hardly even had any hype behind it other than forums like this. Nothing like Oblivion Remastered or Indiana Jones

I won't be a part of anything that so blatantly steals from artists they have no intention of crediting or paying

@Neverwild when you have a playstation, you can just say you're from one of the permitted regions even though you're not. There is no penalty for that, and playstation doesn't bother to verify. Steam, however, recognizes that you're not from that region and locks you out in accordance with the PSN terms of service. Also, having to create a PSN on PC (especially for single player games) is just dumb and unnecessary. We don't have to pay to be online and we sure as hell don't need playstation monitoring our in game activity

Took them long enough. I refused to get any of their pc titles while both restrictions were in place. I'm guessing Stellar Blade's success had something to do with the decision making on this.

@ChrisDeku Oldgamer makes a point

@KundaliniRising333 don't worry, GTA 6 will probably be $100

@VenomUK well, yeah. Microsoft is the biggest game publisher for the PS5.

Publishers are under no obligation to put in more work to optimize for a mid gen update. It's amusing to see so many people upset at Fromsoft instead of playstation for putting out an overpriced product of middling quality

I actually just added 40ish mods to Witcher III and started a new playthrough. Glad console users can have access to some mods

Hurry and go buy a PS5!! Before you miss out on all these PS4 drops

Man, reading all these "the game is broken" post makes me glad I purchased it on steam. I especially feel for the PS5 Pro crowd. That system seems cursed. I've really been thoroughly enjoying this one. I had no idea how much more interesting the writing for quests were compared to Skyrim. And you can craft spells?! I mean, c'mon, that's awesome!

@ChrisDeku whatever you have to tell yourself

@ChrisDeku it's so much worse than that. They basically copy pasted years of their work

This guy has been nothing but their lapdog since he retired

Bloodborne II will be on the new switch. That's enough for a lot of people

@Casco possibly somewhat retaliatory for playstation removing it from the online store. Pure speculation, of course

@Casco you can play it on the switch 2 lol

I'll get one for Bloodborne II, no question

@HonestHick you're a literal parrot. Those are the same bullet points on FOX. I know because I read multiple news sources from around the world

@HonestHick bro. You're in a cult. And you're totally blind to it. Honestly, even though it hurts my wallet as well, I'm GLAD prices are about to go up. So that fools like you have to deal with the consequences of your stupidity lmao.

@HonestHick wtf are you talking about? I didn't bring up genders at all. We're talking economics and you drop that? Sounds like a good default topic when you're literally out of other ideas or arguments

@HonestHick you have much to learn, young padawan