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@naruball I ain't your buddy, guy

@naruball way to make a backhanded and negative comment seem like you're such a positive person

Still DOA. They had zero intention of compensating the artist until the public outrage

It's not so cheap that it will sell like hotcakes. However, you won't have to pay for online multiplayer. That's a huge win. The PS5 is probably the best deal out there. The pro is a joke imo, but I have a pretty good computer, and the jump from OG to pro is negligible. Honestly, Sony hasn't put out any must have first party games all generation (imo) so there isn't any major pull other than name recognition for your average joe

They kind of killed any momentum they had by attempting to force a PSN on PC players. That eliminated a lot of good will that Sony had been building. Having a PSN for HD2 is somewhat understandable, but for GoW Ragnarok?...

Sony raising the cost of essential to $80 made me build a PC. Now I play free 2 play games with my console friends and multiplayer on PC. Most of my favorite games on ps5 are single player games anyway

@Shinnok789 I've never had any stuttering and run at a solid 60fps.

Honestly, the SSD is nice...but the other improvements were marginal. I kind of wish I had just replaced the thermal paste and put a SSD in my PS4 and saved some money

More profits but fewer games = ripping off you and me

Same price...sans batteries. Really filling their coffers this generation

I'm excited for the PC port

PS Plus is ripping everyone off. Just remember, if you play any free to play games you don't need PS Plus to play online

@SeaDaVie the art style is good because they literally copy/pasted it and didn't credit or pay the original artist. That's why I personally will never give them the time of day for this project.

Some of their early marketing certainly resembled HZD, but the gameplay looks more like Palworld. I think they make some good arguments as well. HZD, while engaging and fun, did borrow a lot of the design/mechanics from other games. I'm not really enthusiastic about the Big N and Sony trying to monopolize the gaming industry

@johnedwin I enjoy both. I've definitely been more of a pc gamer these days though. Lackluster first party games competing with 120fps at 1440p with mods is too nice

@johnedwin that depends on how nice of a pc you want. Either way, you'd definitely get more bang for your buck with a pc

@SeaDaVie honestly, it does suck, but I'm ok with it. This may finally break the cultist spell the orange one has on our country. Sometimes, you get exactly what you pay for

@get2sammyb any PC port is also a xbox port as soon as their new console drops. Doesn't matter "how well it sells". That's the new reality

@SuntannedDuck2 it literally won't matter how selective they are once xbox players have access to Steam. Once that happens any games ported by Sony will be available to Xbox owners

The new Xbox will have Steam... so anything that gets ported to PC will be available on xbox. That means God of War, Last of Us, Horizon Zero Dawn, Spider-Man, etc will ALL be available on xbox. Obviously, that includes any future titles that playstation decides to port. In my eyes, Sony is just preparing for that eventuality. They're not even ahead of the curve, they're just going with the flow.

@Old-Red if you can't beat 'em, join them - and then beat them at their own game

@rusty82 lol, sadly I'm not. But I'm from the states, so we never called it that here. In all seriousness though, Bungie straight up copied someone else's work. Some of the marketing may look similar to HZD, but the gameplay looks more like Palworld tbh

Where was all this outrage when it came to Marathon?

@CutchuSlow seriously? Haha, Microsoft is currently is the most played game publisher on PS5. CoD alone rakes in so much money

@CutchuSlow it won't matter even if they exclude xbox, since their next hardware will include steam. Meaning anyone on xbox will be able to play Playstation titles regardless. I'm sure that's partly why they're deciding to potentially branch out now

I doubt anything will pull them back from their hat and over priced shop decisions

@lindos this post was resurrected from 5 years ago and that user is banned lol. Goes to show just how little has come down the pipeline this generation

@DennisReynolds 1440, and yes. My pc was $1900 after taxes, but I also have 6TB in my computer. I'm glad you're OK with your purchase. You'd have to be for falling for that cash grab. My point is, after you've paid for ps plus, you'll end up spending as much as a good starter pc. With access to any and all games. Not the short list currently available for the pro. The regular ps5 is the better deal. I have one, and very much enjoy it. But it's definitely not what I consider to be the optimal way to play

@DennisReynolds if you're OK spending $700+ not including online play and a handful of games that are actually optimized for that system, good on you. It's a waste of hard earned money imo. I play Cyberpunk at 60fps with full ray and path tracing at all the highest settings. How does that game play on the pro?

If you purchase the base ps plus for 5 years after that, you've paid just as much as I did to build my brother a decent starter. His pc definitely out performs the pro. Just depends on what you want to prioritize

Edit: I actually could have built it cheaper as well, but opted to put in 4TB of SSD storage

120fps or bust

@DennisReynolds I built a PC for my brother that was $1200 that definitely outperforms the pro...so, yeah. My pc was under 2k and it's boss. So I'll just chalk it up to you not knowing what you're talking about.

Also, how many games are actually optimizing for the pro? Not enough to pay into the cash grab

@DennisReynolds this is a common misconception. You really don't need to to spend thousands to have a PC that would blow a playstation out of the water. Don't get me wrong, I love my playstation, and there's value in plug n play systems. Games will always be designed for console though, so you don't need top shelf CPUs or GPUs to get 60fps. Not unless you're trying to play Skyrim with 4k mods or have a rig that can stream and play at the same time.

Edit: On top of that, you don't have to spend anything to play online games.

Once xbox owners can have access to steam they won't need an official port. So they may as well. Microsoft is already the biggest game publisher for Sony at the moment anyway. Call of Duty alone probably accounts for a huge chunk of the regular playstation gamers

People overpaying for cosmetics and knick knacks is why these companies think they can keep charging us more and more. A collecters edition without a physical copy of the game is also laughable

@Dalamar exactly lol. I actually remember a lot of people upset that Black Myth didn't take the prize. I haven't played either, just to be clear

@UltimateOtaku91 @logicstrikesagain Sony USED to regularly put out single player bangers. All my favorite games this past generation haven't been from Sony though. Ghost of Yotei may be good, and I know people love Death Stranding. So, now that they're discussing the PS6, I'm glad that they're finally producing something other than a Concord sized mess. Still, none of it was enough to prevent me from building a PC

@Slayer25c ok, so there was Astro Bot. Anything else? That game hardly even had any hype behind it other than forums like this. Nothing like Oblivion Remastered or Indiana Jones

I won't be a part of anything that so blatantly steals from artists they have no intention of crediting or paying

@Neverwild when you have a playstation, you can just say you're from one of the permitted regions even though you're not. There is no penalty for that, and playstation doesn't bother to verify. Steam, however, recognizes that you're not from that region and locks you out in accordance with the PSN terms of service. Also, having to create a PSN on PC (especially for single player games) is just dumb and unnecessary. We don't have to pay to be online and we sure as hell don't need playstation monitoring our in game activity

Took them long enough. I refused to get any of their pc titles while both restrictions were in place. I'm guessing Stellar Blade's success had something to do with the decision making on this.

@ChrisDeku Oldgamer makes a point

@KundaliniRising333 don't worry, GTA 6 will probably be $100

@VenomUK well, yeah. Microsoft is the biggest game publisher for the PS5.

Publishers are under no obligation to put in more work to optimize for a mid gen update. It's amusing to see so many people upset at Fromsoft instead of playstation for putting out an overpriced product of middling quality

I actually just added 40ish mods to Witcher III and started a new playthrough. Glad console users can have access to some mods

Hurry and go buy a PS5!! Before you miss out on all these PS4 drops