Rifling through publicly available patents is a strange pastime, but it's one that observant industry-watchers seem to be into. Last we heard, Sony had patented a system to help people's posture during play, and now we're onto another one — only this one may leave a sour taste.
As you can see here, Sony has filed a patent for an NFT framework, allowing the exchange of non-fungible tokens across game systems.
To recap, NFTs are digital goods stored in a blockchain that prove ownership with a unique identifying receipt, theoretically allowing you to own intangible items in the same way you own physical products. While this technology has been widely criticised, some large companies have been exploring NFTs as a potential new revenue stream, though most attempts have fallen flat at this point. Anyone remember Ubisoft Quartz?
This patented system from Sony essentially would allow you to transfer your NFTs from one game or system to another and continue using it there. Additionally, there's the potential to trade or sell the rights to your NFTs to other players, and apparently, forgery is "nearly impossible owing to the use of blockchain technology".
It must be noted that a lot of patents like this never end up being developed into a final product or service, so we wouldn't raise the alarm just yet. Odds are most corporations are covering their bases in a similar way, and besides, Sony will be fully aware of the terrible reputation NFTs have. We remember PlayStation having to make a point of saying its PS Stars digital collectables aren't NFTs. We'll see what happens, anyway!
[source scribd.com, via segmentnext.com]
NFT, more like No Fu*king Thanks
I never understood the hate over NFT's, you don't have to get involved with them and are less in your face than companies forcing battle passes and skins in our faces. But just like microtransactions you can ignore them and get on with enjoying your game.
And Sony aren't alone
@WCamicase lol v good comment, its like a frisky dingo joke
It's just a patent guys, like the patent to supervise the player's posture or the patent for legacy games or MY FAVORITE the patent for a banana controller. Ideas that should be protected because they are unique but most likely won't materialize.
Maybe offer refund on psn first before making weird nft patent. Besides nft are over now, nobody care about them anymore. Well beside people that already bought them and can't sell it 😂
@GymratAmarillo probably won't be used unless NFT's on consoles is a big thing in the future.
Sonys going to let us sell our digital games? That's great news, praise be to Jim!
Yuck. Sony I don't want it. Don't even want the option. Hopefully this ends like of a lot of Sony other patents and just b never sees the light of day.
FU. I understand that Sony have a responsibility to their shareholders to at least have the capability to do this stuff if that’s the way the industry moves, but I sincerely hope they have no intention of actively taking strides in this direction.
I would appreciate ownership of my games, and a marketplace to resell them, but all of that can be done with new licensing agreements I suspect.
@UltimateOtaku91 and MTX have really set back gaming and have made gaming worse in a lot of ways.
@UltimateOtaku91 yup, something at the level of Fortnite or Minecraft that pushes NFTs to the sky has to happen first.
After the past year of NFT's crashing and burning its laughable these out of touch gaming executives still think NFT's are the future.
Go ahead and feel free to let this one just collect dust in the patent graveyard Playstation. Nothing of value will be lost I assure you!
It's just a patent, big tech corps get through tons of these and never see the light of day .
Scraping the bottom of the Sony bashing barrel I guess
@UltimateOtaku91 You don't understand the hate about vulnerable players being exploited for money by this scam of a technology? Or you don't understand the hate for a hugely carbon intensive process utterly unnecessarily damaging the environment?
Do you not understand, or do you just not care?
Can’t wait for this crap to crash and burn entirely.
If it allows me to sell digital licenses of games I don't play anymore, I'd be on board. Haha
@Ooccoo_Jr ok so maybe I need some educating on NFT's, I understand the basics of what they are but not about what you're saying about them being a carbon heavy process damaging the environment. If that's the case then yeah I'd understand the hate, it's not that I don't care.
Just read that the giant Meta are scrapping NFT's so yeah this won't go anywhere.
I mean this isn't the first time Sony has patent something that has never come to light.
Nft investing is a big reason why the banks in California crashed. No one wants them
So what about using the same system to sell or swap our digital games?Bet they won't be so fast to put that into place but they could charge for each transaction.Ive got thousands of games I'd love to sell or swap on multiple platforms
If Sony ever does anything with this I hope it's a miserable failure.
@NomNom That would be a great idea, but also probably start the end of physical games.
Remember Sony also patented a system that allows players to pay to boot someone from an online match. Notwithstanding that my example would open a legal can of worms, it is generally assumed that most patents never really see the light of day. Some could argue that Sony having ownership over a patent like this is a good thing, because it stops someone "worse" using it.
Can't wait for Playstation NFTs that can only be bought and sold with a Sony branded cryptocurrency. 🤑
Those 10 live service games are going to be such a complete disaster people will be clamoring for a Playstation All Stars: Knack Edition. 😂
@UltimateOtaku91 they release Thier consoles with a digital code ,I think the end of physical has already been started
@UltimateOtaku91 "I don't understand what's the deal with using boatloads of computers and further helping destroy the environment also adding more speculation into the world's incredibly unstable economy! Just live on another planet!"
@JaphyRider Now that show is a blast from the past.
More theft from Jim Ryan.
@rjejr Yes, live service games and NFTs are a match made in he…aven. Jimbo knows what gamers crave!
@UltimateOtaku91 Fair enough. Sorry to get snotty but this nft stuff really p*sses me off
@Enigk Yeah I'm dating myself but that comment really reminded me of the "Las Vegas? I like to call it Lost Wages" joke from the show
I thought the whole point of blockchain was that it was decentralized and can be forked. Outside of the bold claim of things that can't be forged, doesn't putting a wrapper around it like this kind of defeat the entire point? Then they just become fancy microtransactions with a high carbon footprint.
@UltimateOtaku91 What exactly can they do with NFTs gameplay wise that they can't do without it, they can easily put unique or limited number of set items only some players can access, and we've seen it be done in some MMOs. i'm genuinly curious why do we need to ruin the planet for something game devs can do easily without it
Companies patent things ALL the time they've no plan in using. Just ensures that if someone tries the idea they have to cough up to use it.
I wouldn't worry too much.
@Pat_trick @Ooccoo_Jr @MayaMousavi Honestly had no idea the impact NFT's have on the planet until someone mentioned it on here, I just thought it was a unique digital item people either earn by playing games or doing certain milestones and maybe purchasing them like MTX, and then that person just keeps it like a trophy or can sell it to other collectors etc I originally thought it was a cool way for some people to earn money from doing their hobby playing games.
But after some replies on here and reading this article
I obviously underestimated what NFT's are and what damage they do. So yeah let's keep NFT's away from gaming (or anything for that matter)
@UltimateOtaku91 They'd always exist. People love collecting physical media.
@UltimateOtaku91 Yeah at one point i had no idea either it wasn't bothering me i even saw it as a cool new tech, but knowing that and the fact that almost nearly all nft projects have either been a scam or a failure i'm like just keep them away from me please
glad you actually looked into it some people blindly defend them without understanding what it even is
@UltimateOtaku91 Nice to know there is someone out there so level headed on the internet! Really refreshing to be able to debate these things calmly rather than just flinging mud at each other. I agree, on the face of it a digital collectable sounds fun, this just isn't the way to go about it. I don't fully understand nfts either, not by a long shot, but I think that's exactly what these companies that embrace them are banking on.
@UltimateOtaku91 Cool man. You didn't know about something and researched to understand it. Sorry if I was too harsh, NFTs get under my skin a bit.
Honestly, Jim ryan already had that look of a type of person who would support unironically NFTs
The thing is, the hype for NFTs already died off like, 3 years ago. I've seen more people talk about Ai generated art than NFTs if anything.
@UltimateOtaku91 Yeah, and the reactions for all of them were nothing but negative. Just because others are doing it, doesn't mean it's a good thing. They're just jumping on what's currently popular (trend catching). Besides, even if it's popular, it won't guarantee that it will be a success. Remember Ubisoft Quartz? Did so poorly that it practically killed the support for Ghost recon breakpoint.
@NomNom NFTs are not needed for that to happen. All a platform holder needs to do is to just allow transfers of games, but no one wants to do that.
Closest thing we have to it is on Steam with some traceable digital cards and junk that don’t need any NFT garbage to work. But let’s face it: devs and platform holders like that digital games are practically disposable.
@Rmg0731 As well as lack of regulations (thanks chump 🍊).
Ugh, you'll lose even more of my business Sony, if you start pushing NFTs hard. 🤮
I'm still trying to figure out why NFTs are a bad thing... You clearly stated it allows users to sell their NFTs which is what NFTs are for in the first place so it generates a revenue stream to the gamer/user as well. What's wrong with this?
I actually wish Sony had some sort of marketplace for items, sort of like Steam. I would be selling thousands of my gathered items from games. I sold over 7k items in few years on Steam and made quite a buck.
@TechGuyChris nothing is wrong with this part, I think people are looking at the wider picture tho. If games will start rewarding you nfts for your play time, it means they will become more pay to earn I guess.
Silly Sony, only Nintendo could get away with force feeding their fans NFTs without them complaining. (Ok they'd complain but ultimately still buy them.)
How is the same character across different games going to work? All games are so different.
Only example I can think of is Nintendo's miis and they didn't exactly set the world on fire.
Patents aren't generally something to be worried about. It's only a concern if and when they ever decide to implement these features.
I fully expect more patents around in-game advertising and NFTs to be filed this gen; it's first come first serve and everybody else will have to pay the patent holder royalties if they deploy the tech. You might just as well own all the patents, if possible.
It makes sense to want to avoid being left out if NFTs ever do take off, though I'm not fond of patents that are overly vague, like "do this thing you do normally, but ON THE INTERNET!" or "let that NFT work cross-platform!"
I do hope that this isn't about any specific product, but just future-proofing their portfolio - hopefully for a future that never comes to pass.
NFT's: one of those stupid ideas that nobody wants.
NFTs should never have been incorporated into gaming world.
They'll vanish eventually. Slowly, but I imagine they'll be gone sooner rather than later. NFTs, IMHO, are not really long for this world.
@JayJ It wouldn't be a thing if people didn't want it. People blow millions on NFTs
Ahh I see. This patent was filed on September of 2022. Really cool for the author to leave that part out.
@veryhoudini11 People blow millions on loads of scams.
@MayaMousavi @UltimateOtaku91 @Pat_trick @Ooccoo_Jr The whole environmentally issue with NFTs was fixed back in september 2022 when Ethereum switched so a Proof of Stake protocol that consumes around 99.5% less emergy.
@dBackLash And you believe that? Sure.
@Pat_trick yes because I have a basic understanding of how blockchains operate xD
@dBackLash Oh, you said you know something and that automatically makes it valid? Sure, buddy.
The "XD" at the end gives you extra credibility, professor.
@JayJ I mean I never said it wasn't stupid... but there's no denying people have interest in it.
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