Or maybe success shouldn't be measured by who is 'winning'? If PS4 sells 100mill but sells less than Switch, is that disappointing in some way?
The only issue is when lack of market success reduces support for the platform. I love the Wii U, it has amazing games, but it died fast. That will simply not happen to PS4 at this point.
@chadders77 I agree with you 100%. And the result is that I simply don't buy PS4 games at launch. And recent stats seem to indicate that this is becoming quite common behaviour.
They spend millions on creating hype before launch to entice buyers to jump in early, but everything that happens after launch seems to encourage user disappointment and regret.
Played Broforce for about an hour when it was on PS+ and found it a bit unbearable. There were good bits, but the bad bits grated my nerves so hard I never went back.
@get2sammyb I guess I was maybe just expecting more? It had probably been too hyped by thr time I played.
I was definitely expecting more complexity from the narrative and world building. Especially the whole meta narrative of the secret ending, which is pretty played out in video games.
But mainly I did not find the gameplay that engaging. I enjoyed limbo more. The puzzles in Inside seemed much more straightforward, and the only times I got stuck was when I missed a lever or something in the dark monochrome environments.
On the other hand I can see how polished it is. It's very well put together.
I really enjoy hearing other people's perspectives, even if I sometimes fond them puzzling. I'm obviously the odd one out on this, but I found Inside to be very disappointing.
But it would be nice if Sony won more than about 20%, I think.
Ironically I've been wanting to try both of this month's games, so I'm happy for possibly the first time this year
But too little too late. I think I'm cancelling my subscription. Not just because I've found the value very low this year, but because I don't like the way getting 'free' games every month changes my gaming patterns. I spend valuable time playing things I don't really care about just because they're there, and skip on games I actually want to play because they could be free soon. Any day now...
that's nice, but didn't sales plummet recently in anticipation for the slim and pro releases? So they're up on last month, how do they compare to the same time last year, or is that not such a positive headline?
It probably won't happen, but I would love it if this had decent retro filters, especially scan lines. Been playing around with retropie lately and the benefits of the right shaders to get a retro feel are are amazing.
The game is done. The game is great. They finally shipped the complete edition.
Absolutely right move
Not sure why any studio would waste resources on this . Will it increase sales? I don't even know if Pro features will increase sales for new games in a significant way, I don't see any benefit to updating old games. The benefit is all for Sony, not the publishers and certainly not for developers.
@kyleforrester87 you are quite right about 4ThePlayers just being marketing. Kind of my point. Sony mad use of a situation at the beginning of this gen to create an impression of what they stood for. The goodwill of that time continues to carry them now. How long will that continue?
@sub12 My hope is that when the PS5 eventually appears, Sony will get the smack down they deserve. I certainly will not be buying one at launch.
But it probably won't happen. While many gamers laugh or complain about mobile games, the mobile world has still trained them to accept the iterative upgrades that create such profit for companies.
@kyleforrester87 I think the issue is that this isn't '4 the players', this is '4 the profit'. Sony has made the 40 mil or so PS4 Amateur consoles owned by the faithful early adopters into 2nd class hardware.
I think this is a bad thing, not something to be celebrated.
Those candles look like a right fire hazard to me! Very scary stuff!
I'm not sold on this yet, but I generally do not like first person games. I really want more Revelations to tell the truth. I hope they keep going with that series.
The only thing I didn't like about Darksiders was that toward the end of the game the combat started to get a little repetitive, with difficulty getting ramped up by having more enemies and longer battles. But I still love it and the sequel. Dying for number 3.
Why would you expect it at less than full price? That would make no sense at all. Even if they intend to discount it in a month, they need to be able to say its 51% off or whateverr, plus there's plenty of people who will buy it full price.
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Re: Nintendo Supposedly Shunned Square Following Final Fantasy VII's Move to PlayStation
Console Wars is a fun read for more Nintendo shinanigans, although Sony and Sega were very busy with their manouves.
Re: Some of These Plans for Final Fantasy XV Sound Insane
Wow, was looking forward to playing this soon. Let me know when it's actually finished, I guess.
Re: Feature: How PS4 Can Fend Off the Nintendo Switch and Xbox Scorpio in 2017
Or maybe success shouldn't be measured by who is 'winning'? If PS4 sells 100mill but sells less than Switch, is that disappointing in some way?
The only issue is when lack of market success reduces support for the platform. I love the Wii U, it has amazing games, but it died fast. That will simply not happen to PS4 at this point.
Re: Poll: Are You Excited for Mass Effect: Andromeda?
I'm actually surprised to find that I'm really excited for more Mass Effect!
Re: More PS4 Bargains Have Been Added to EU's Ace PlayStation Store Sale
@chadders77 I agree with you 100%. And the result is that I simply don't buy PS4 games at launch. And recent stats seem to indicate that this is becoming quite common behaviour.
They spend millions on creating hype before launch to entice buyers to jump in early, but everything that happens after launch seems to encourage user disappointment and regret.
Re: Talking Point: What Sort of Story Do You Want Out of Spider-Man PS4?
Rule 1: no origin stories.
Re: Game of the Year 2016: Kell's Personal PlayStation Picks
@Dodoo sometimes you have to press left as well, or even spot a lever in the dark. But holding right is about 80%
Re: Game of the Year 2016: Sam's Personal PlayStation Picks
Played Broforce for about an hour when it was on PS+ and found it a bit unbearable. There were good bits, but the bad bits grated my nerves so hard I never went back.
Re: Game of the Year 2016: #4 - Final Fantasy XV
Dying to play this, but will not start it until I finish Xenoblade X! I must!
Re: Game of the Year 2016: Graham's Personal PlayStation Picks
@get2sammyb I guess I was maybe just expecting more? It had probably been too hyped by thr time I played.
I was definitely expecting more complexity from the narrative and world building. Especially the whole meta narrative of the secret ending, which is pretty played out in video games.
But mainly I did not find the gameplay that engaging. I enjoyed limbo more. The puzzles in Inside seemed much more straightforward, and the only times I got stuck was when I missed a lever or something in the dark monochrome environments.
On the other hand I can see how polished it is. It's very well put together.
Re: Game of the Year 2016: Graham's Personal PlayStation Picks
I really enjoy hearing other people's perspectives, even if I sometimes fond them puzzling. I'm obviously the odd one out on this, but I found Inside to be very disappointing.
Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda PS4 Gameplay Trailer Shows Off Combat and Exploration
Calling it "next gen" is just so last gen though.
Re: Soapbox: December PlayStation Plus May Be Disappointing, But You Should Still Play Stories
But it would be nice if Sony won more than about 20%, I think.
Ironically I've been wanting to try both of this month's games, so I'm happy for possibly the first time this year
But too little too late. I think I'm cancelling my subscription. Not just because I've found the value very low this year, but because I don't like the way getting 'free' games every month changes my gaming patterns. I spend valuable time playing things I don't really care about just because they're there, and skip on games I actually want to play because they could be free soon. Any day now...
Re: Store Update: 22nd November 2016 (Europe)
Man I wish I had enough time to play Darksiders again. Such a great game.
Re: Talking Point: Why Are Fall's Biggest Blockbusters Flopping?
There has never been a better time in the history of gaming to stay clear of new releases.
Re: Feature: Happy Tenth Birthday to the PlayStation 3
Aah the famous 10 year lifespan! Good old Sony marketing. Not a total lie, but not really true either.
Re: PS4 Sales Triple in UK Following Pro Launch
that's nice, but didn't sales plummet recently in anticipation for the slim and pro releases? So they're up on last month, how do they compare to the same time last year, or is that not such a positive headline?
Re: Feature: 10 PS4 Games from 2016 to Get Stuck into Over the Winter Holidays
Aah, the internet. Where the Southern hemisphere does not exist.
Re: PlayStation VR's Launch Lineup Is Legitimately Enormous
@wiiware that's a great list! If I was going to jump in now I think my list would be very similar if not identical.
Its not an enormous list though
Re: PlayStation VR's Launch Lineup Is Legitimately Enormous
An enormous number of 1hr tech demos!
Re: Hands On: Sonic Mania on PS4 Runs Rings Around Recent Entries
It probably won't happen, but I would love it if this had decent retro filters, especially scan lines. Been playing around with retropie lately and the benefits of the right shaders to get a retro feel are are amazing.
Re: 'No Plans' For The Witcher 3 PS4 Pro Patch, Says Developer
The game is done. The game is great. They finally shipped the complete edition.
Absolutely right move
Not sure why any studio would waste resources on this . Will it increase sales? I don't even know if Pro features will increase sales for new games in a significant way, I don't see any benefit to updating old games. The benefit is all for Sony, not the publishers and certainly not for developers.
Re: Sony 'Pleasantly Surprised' by Strong PS4 Pro Pre-Orders
Decent, pretty good and pleasantly surprised.
Not really amazing reactions in a PR context.
Re: TGS 2016: Resident Evil 7 Will Turn Up the Terror with PS4 Pro
@kyleforrester87 you are quite right about 4ThePlayers just being marketing. Kind of my point. Sony mad use of a situation at the beginning of this gen to create an impression of what they stood for. The goodwill of that time continues to carry them now. How long will that continue?
Re: TGS 2016: Resident Evil 7 Will Turn Up the Terror with PS4 Pro
@sub12 My hope is that when the PS5 eventually appears, Sony will get the smack down they deserve. I certainly will not be buying one at launch.
But it probably won't happen. While many gamers laugh or complain about mobile games, the mobile world has still trained them to accept the iterative upgrades that create such profit for companies.
Re: TGS 2016: Resident Evil 7 Will Turn Up the Terror with PS4 Pro
@kyleforrester87 I think the issue is that this isn't '4 the players', this is '4 the profit'. Sony has made the 40 mil or so PS4 Amateur consoles owned by the faithful early adopters into 2nd class hardware.
I think this is a bad thing, not something to be celebrated.
Re: TGS 2016: Resident Evil 7 Will Turn Up the Terror with PS4 Pro
I'm with @sub12 on this. Sick of this marketing push to try and make me get a new console.
All that it's actually doing is make me feel like I will be playing a sub standard experience on my old ps4 amateur.
Re: Oh Dear, The Last Guardian Delayed into December on PS4
I think you mean 'may' launch, or perhaps 'it is now claimed it will launch'
Re: Poll: Will You Be Buying a PS4 Pro?
Bonus question:
Will this effect whether or not you buy a PS5 at launch?
Most definitely!
Re: Feature: PlayStation Now Review - The State of Cloud Gaming in 2016
Can anyone define "speedy internet connection" .
Re: Review: Valley (PS4)
What a shame the tagline could not have been "uncanny"
Re: Gamescom 2016: Resident Evil 7 Really Is Going Full Survival Horror
Those candles look like a right fire hazard to me! Very scary stuff!
I'm not sold on this yet, but I generally do not like first person games. I really want more Revelations to tell the truth. I hope they keep going with that series.
Re: PlayStation VR's Launch Will Be Treated Like a New System, Hints Sony
Given that it's the same price as a new console, I suspect they rather need to treat the launch as such.
Re: Gamescom 2016: Metal Gear Survives Without Hideo Kojima as Co-Op Spin-Off
Metal Gear has... changed.
Re: Street Fighter V PS4 Finally Gets Features That Should Have Been There at Launch
I'm surprised anyone cares at this point
Re: Wait a Minute! They're Still Making Resident Evil Movies?
Production was full of accidents, sounded like a very dangerous shoot.
Re: Game of the Month: Top 4 PlayStation Games of July 2016
Hyper Light Drifter is truly amazing.
Re: Review: Moon Hunters (PS4)
I love short games
Re: Oh No! Darksiders' PS4 Remaster Has the Worst Subtitle in History
That's a great name!
Re: Review: Fallout 4: Vault-Tec Workshop (PS4)
the lady in the header looks like drunk Samus
Re: Darksiders Will Trot to the PS4 This Year, Apparently
The only thing I didn't like about Darksiders was that toward the end of the game the combat started to get a little repetitive, with difficulty getting ramped up by having more enemies and longer battles. But I still love it and the sequel. Dying for number 3.
Re: Poll: Has Square Enix Enticed You with Rise of the Tomb Raider PS4's Extras?
No, but these are pretty great add one, will definitely be getting at some point
Re: Poll: Will You Pay Full Price for Rise of the Tomb Raider on PS4?
Given that I'm still looking forward to Uncharted 4 and the Witcher 3 , I'm in no rush.
Re: Rumour: Lara Croft's Rise of the Tomb Raider Rushes PS4 on 11th October
Why would you expect it at less than full price? That would make no sense at all. Even if they intend to discount it in a month, they need to be able to say its 51% off or whateverr, plus there's plenty of people who will buy it full price.
Re: Ensure You Have Enough Cash for Resident Evil 4 on PS4, Stranger
I prefer Wii controls to HD graphics, so I'm good.
Re: Lara Croft's Tomb Raider Will Rise on PS4 This Holiday
It will be full price.
Re: Analyst Reckons Sony May Release a PS4 Slim as Well as PS4K
This just in: analyst believes sky is blue
Re: Sony Reveals Over 20 Million Users Are Subscribed to PlayStation Plus
While next month is the best in ages, if they dont continue to improve i wont be renewing my subscription. Its just not worth it anymore
Re: Your July PlayStation Plus Games Have Been Revealed
Well that's the best month in ages
Re: BioWare Explains Why it Went for a Female Main Character in Mass Effect: Andromeda's E3 Trailer
Do female equals not iconic?